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		<title>By: TimChapmanBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Faith and politics</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-82300</link>
		<dc:creator>TimChapmanBlog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Faith and politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Here is a great video from Hot Air discussing the faith and politics double standard. Harold Ford can film ads in a church and wear his faith on his sleeve because he is a &#8220;new Dem,&#8221; while a Republican who did the same would be roundly criticized by the MSM. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here is a great video from Hot Air discussing the faith and politics double standard. Harold Ford can film ads in a church and wear his faith on his sleeve because he is a &#8220;new Dem,&#8221; while a Republican who did the same would be roundly criticized by the MSM. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Katharine Ham</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81817</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Katharine Ham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 21:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Horrifying...&lt;/strong&gt;


This candidate for Senate is praying to the Lord with his staffers. Is that even legal? I&#039;m sure it&#039;s not. Only a backwoods, Jesus-freak Republican would sink so low, with his anti-science, voo-doo, Duby-lovin&#039; beliefs...Oh, wait. What? That&#039;s......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Horrifying&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>This candidate for Senate is praying to the Lord with his staffers. Is that even legal? I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not. Only a backwoods, Jesus-freak Republican would sink so low, with his anti-science, voo-doo, Duby-lovin&#8217; beliefs&#8230;Oh, wait. What? That&#8217;s&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t even think about kissing MY baby! &#171; Obi&#8217;s Sister</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81534</link>
		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t even think about kissing MY baby! &#171; Obi&#8217;s Sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Anchoress has written a funny script for a GOP ad she&#8217;d like to see. MJ Fox is confusing the stem cell debate for alot of people, just to pull a few votes for Democratic pals. Bethany (isn&#8217;t she cute? Smart, too!) over at HotAir takes on politicians who briefly darken church doors to trawl for votes. &#8220;Modern day evangelicals expect more of their politicians than just church appearances. They expect integrity, character and consistency&#8230;above reproach and represent a contrast to perceived moral and ethical deficiencies in the political arena today&#8230;accountable for their actions in Washington and in their home district&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Anchoress has written a funny script for a GOP ad she&#8217;d like to see. MJ Fox is confusing the stem cell debate for alot of people, just to pull a few votes for Democratic pals. Bethany (isn&#8217;t she cute? Smart, too!) over at HotAir takes on politicians who briefly darken church doors to trawl for votes. &#8220;Modern day evangelicals expect more of their politicians than just church appearances. They expect integrity, character and consistency&#8230;above reproach and represent a contrast to perceived moral and ethical deficiencies in the political arena today&#8230;accountable for their actions in Washington and in their home district&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TallTim</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81220</link>
		<dc:creator>TallTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 13:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good job Bethany!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Bethany!</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing News</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81145</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Daily News For Oct 25, 2006...&lt;/strong&gt;

Foreign American Officials Unveiled A Timeline Tuesday For Iraq&#039;s Shiite-Led Government To Take Specific Steps To Calm The World&#039;s Most......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Daily News For Oct 25, 2006&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Foreign American Officials Unveiled A Timeline Tuesday For Iraq&#8217;s Shiite-Led Government To Take Specific Steps To Calm The World&#8217;s Most&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scot</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81131</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a republican had filmed an ad in a church, Barry Lynn would be a fixture on the cable shows for a week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a republican had filmed an ad in a church, Barry Lynn would be a fixture on the cable shows for a week.</p>
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		<title>By: roydee43</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81085</link>
		<dc:creator>roydee43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 04:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone else from the sidebar done a vent?  Bethany seems to have earned a privileged status here - much better than any sidebar spot.

BTW There is a &quot;Make a Donation&quot; button on the Realverse homepage now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else from the sidebar done a vent?  Bethany seems to have earned a privileged status here &#8211; much better than any sidebar spot.</p>
<p>BTW There is a &#8220;Make a Donation&#8221; button on the Realverse homepage now.</p>
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		<title>By: Hack Ptui</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81057</link>
		<dc:creator>Hack Ptui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ve brought this up on another thread, but I&#039;ll keep banging the drum... RealVerse deserves a place on the Hot Links sidebar here.  If this video doesn&#039;t qualify them, I don&#039;t know what will.

For the record, I have no connections with Bethany or realVerse.  I&#039;m just an avid fan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve brought this up on another thread, but I&#8217;ll keep banging the drum&#8230; RealVerse deserves a place on the Hot Links sidebar here.  If this video doesn&#8217;t qualify them, I don&#8217;t know what will.</p>
<p>For the record, I have no connections with Bethany or realVerse.  I&#8217;m just an avid fan.</p>
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		<title>By: omegaram</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81042</link>
		<dc:creator>omegaram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;This is the best vent from Bethany to date!  Excellent content, pertinent and timely topic, and very well presented.  More Please!&lt;/strong&gt;

I found it particularly intersting about the left&#039;s double standard - faith is OK if it is from the left but not if from someone they do not approve of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>This is the best vent from Bethany to date!  Excellent content, pertinent and timely topic, and very well presented.  More Please!</strong></p>
<p>I found it particularly intersting about the left&#8217;s double standard &#8211; faith is OK if it is from the left but not if from someone they do not approve of.</p>
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		<title>By: SaidinUnleashed</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-81014</link>
		<dc:creator>SaidinUnleashed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to vote tomorrow after I get out of class /o/
I would have gone today, but I didn&#039;t get out of class in time. What&#039;s weird is, for the first time, I&#039;m planning to go in and just check the straight-Republican box, not out of any love for the Reps, but out of a ice-cold hatred of how the Dems and the left want to take my country. IT&#039;S MY COUNRTY. MY FAMILY HAS BLED FOR IT, AND I WON&#039;T LET THEM RUN IT INTO THE GROUND. .\ /.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to vote tomorrow after I get out of class /o/<br />
I would have gone today, but I didn&#8217;t get out of class in time. What&#8217;s weird is, for the first time, I&#8217;m planning to go in and just check the straight-Republican box, not out of any love for the Reps, but out of a ice-cold hatred of how the Dems and the left want to take my country. IT&#8217;S MY COUNRTY. MY FAMILY HAS BLED FOR IT, AND I WON&#8217;T LET THEM RUN IT INTO THE GROUND. .\ /.</p>
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		<title>By: Scot</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80981</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t hold back anymore, all the women on this site are really hot. There, i said it and i feel better. Please continue with your thoughtful political debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t hold back anymore, all the women on this site are really hot. There, i said it and i feel better. Please continue with your thoughtful political debate.</p>
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		<title>By: vcferlita</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80898</link>
		<dc:creator>vcferlita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Press Play yet. Good topic and analysis.Great job Bethany. Can I call you Beth? Well, maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best Press Play yet. Good topic and analysis.Great job Bethany. Can I call you Beth? Well, maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: roydee43</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80884</link>
		<dc:creator>roydee43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“is government our primary tool for reproaching society with its shortcomings?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Obviously not.  But participation in politics is a responsibility too often ignored by too many Christians. If more had accepted this responsibility there would not be 3000 babies aborted every day and the definition of marriage would not be an issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“is government our primary tool for reproaching society with its shortcomings?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Obviously not.  But participation in politics is a responsibility too often ignored by too many Christians. If more had accepted this responsibility there would not be 3000 babies aborted every day and the definition of marriage would not be an issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Church and State</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80877</link>
		<dc:creator>Church and State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Harold Ford Jr. - &quot;Deja Gore&quot;...&lt;/strong&gt;

What is it about Tennessee and losing, Democrat politicians? Remember Al Gore&#039;s whining and ranting during the Presidential debates in 2000? Well guess what Harold Ford Jr. did yesterday? An unhinged Ford showed up, uninvited, to a Bob Corker news co....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Harold Ford Jr. &#8211; &#8220;Deja Gore&#8221;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>What is it about Tennessee and losing, Democrat politicians? Remember Al Gore&#8217;s whining and ranting during the Presidential debates in 2000? Well guess what Harold Ford Jr. did yesterday? An unhinged Ford showed up, uninvited, to a Bob Corker news co&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Viper1</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80861</link>
		<dc:creator>Viper1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awsome &quot;Press Play&quot; way to go Bethany!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awsome &#8220;Press Play&#8221; way to go Bethany!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Shakely</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80856</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Shakely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really great video today. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really great video today. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: JadeNYU</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80763</link>
		<dc:creator>JadeNYU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one that finds it odd that politicians say &quot;I&#039;m So-and-So and I approve this message&quot; at the end of commercials that focused ONLY on them.

I&#039;m sure it&#039;s a regulatory thing and all, but, it makes me laugh all the same.  I mean, I doubt there&#039;s anyone under the impression that the two men in the ads were confused into saying these wonderful things about themselves.  Obviously they approve ads that they feature prominently in.

It&#039;s just one more piece of regulatory redundancy to waste our time/money with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one that finds it odd that politicians say &#8220;I&#8217;m So-and-So and I approve this message&#8221; at the end of commercials that focused ONLY on them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s a regulatory thing and all, but, it makes me laugh all the same.  I mean, I doubt there&#8217;s anyone under the impression that the two men in the ads were confused into saying these wonderful things about themselves.  Obviously they approve ads that they feature prominently in.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just one more piece of regulatory redundancy to waste our time/money with.</p>
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		<title>By: The Machine</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80735</link>
		<dc:creator>The Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wasn&#039;t a real church, the doors didn&#039;t catch fire when Ford walked through &#039;em.  

Then there&#039;s The Hilderbeast&#039;s new diamond cross to laugh about, too.  

WWJD? 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn&#8217;t a real church, the doors didn&#8217;t catch fire when Ford walked through &#8216;em.  </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s The Hilderbeast&#8217;s new diamond cross to laugh about, too.  </p>
<p>WWJD? </p>
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		<title>By: Six Meat Buffet &#187; I Mean, Really&#8230; Come On&#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80716</link>
		<dc:creator>Six Meat Buffet &#187; I Mean, Really&#8230; Come On&#8230;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, Mr. Harold &#8220;Lookie At Me, I Go To Church&#8221; Ford Jr. went to a Playboy party? So did he or didn&#8217;t he? In Ford&#8217;s own words, he told interviewer George Stephanopoulos a couple of Sundays ago, &#8220;I&#8217;ve never been to a Playboy mansion party.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, Mr. Harold &#8220;Lookie At Me, I Go To Church&#8221; Ford Jr. went to a Playboy party? So did he or didn&#8217;t he? In Ford&#8217;s own words, he told interviewer George Stephanopoulos a couple of Sundays ago, &#8220;I&#8217;ve never been to a Playboy mansion party.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vanya</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80687</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;ll hold politicians accountable. Well, at least the Republicans will keep you busy with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;ll hold politicians accountable. Well, at least the Republicans will keep you busy with that.</p>
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		<title>By: c1scott</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80682</link>
		<dc:creator>c1scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;STOP With the Cuts and Edits Please&lt;/strong&gt;

Bethany- You are so right on your message- so smooth and professional in your delivery of that meesage.... why soooo many cuts and edits??? The cuts actually detract from and reduce the effectiveness of your argument.

I know your smart enough and competent enough to deliver your &quot;stand ups&quot; in one take- or at least with out cuts. So go for it. I&#039;ll take a missed word, a slip up,, an &quot;ahh&quot;but please stop with the cut aways every 5 seconds- you&#039;re so much better than that.

You&#039;re message content is always of such high quality, you&#039;re stunningly good looking on camera, your enunciation and diction are great- let the words roll- you&#039;ll be fine. 

I can&#039;t wait for your next spot
SM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>STOP With the Cuts and Edits Please</strong></p>
<p>Bethany- You are so right on your message- so smooth and professional in your delivery of that meesage&#8230;. why soooo many cuts and edits??? The cuts actually detract from and reduce the effectiveness of your argument.</p>
<p>I know your smart enough and competent enough to deliver your &#8220;stand ups&#8221; in one take- or at least with out cuts. So go for it. I&#8217;ll take a missed word, a slip up,, an &#8220;ahh&#8221;but please stop with the cut aways every 5 seconds- you&#8217;re so much better than that.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re message content is always of such high quality, you&#8217;re stunningly good looking on camera, your enunciation and diction are great- let the words roll- you&#8217;ll be fine. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait for your next spot<br />
SM</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80574</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Harold Ford Jr., the Liberal Human Shield Trying to Wear a Conservative&#8217;s Coat. (Audio)...&lt;/strong&gt;

	This Tennessee US Senate race is so funny.  Watching D-Liberal named Ford trying to make himself appear so Conservative, while R-Liberal named Corker tries to make it appear he&#8217;s more Conservative than he actually is.  Corker will prove to be mo...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Harold Ford Jr., the Liberal Human Shield Trying to Wear a Conservative&#8217;s Coat. (Audio)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>	This Tennessee US Senate race is so funny.  Watching D-Liberal named Ford trying to make himself appear so Conservative, while R-Liberal named Corker tries to make it appear he&#8217;s more Conservative than he actually is.  Corker will prove to be mo&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: centuri0n</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80567</link>
		<dc:creator>centuri0n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an interesting problem with Bethany&#039;s latest video -- and it goes back to one of her first couple of videos about &quot;faith night&quot; at sports events.

My problem is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; that Bethany is wrong about politicians leveraging churches and the faith of people for benefit at the polls.  She&#039;s right about the play to the Cross being an ever-popular (and useful) tool of demagoguery.  My problem is that she doesn&#039;t see that it is the kind of &quot;Christianity&quot; that thinks &quot;faith night at the ball game&quot; is actually promoting the Gospel which &lt;em&gt;falls for the church-as-scenery political plea.&lt;/em&gt;

Listen: it&#039;s a robust faith that cannot be manipulated by political ends.  If we have a &quot;faith&quot; that is only pragmatic, and sees the church as a voting block which needs to be implementing laws through government when it cannot reach the hearts of men and women with the call to repent and believe, then we do not understand the message of the cross at all.

The question, really, is not &quot;should Christians vote&quot; (yes), or &quot;is abortion immoral&quot; (yes), but &quot;is government our primary tool for reproaching society with its shortcomings?&quot;  If we answer &quot;yes&quot; to that question, we are merely a different flavor of secular humanists.

Let me suggest something to the readers of Hot Air: the Christian faith once overcame a completely pagan and godless world -- and it did it in a non-democratic civilization.  The method by which they did it is found in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.monachos.net/patristics/ad_diognetum.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Epistle to Diognetus&lt;/a&gt; -- and notice that they didn&#039;t overcome the world either by preaching or believing a milquetoast Gospel or by taking over the seats of power: they did it by holding to a robust doctrine of the Cross and of Christ, and by &lt;i&gt;living differently&lt;/i&gt; as dictated by that Gospel.

They didn&#039;t have &quot;fish-emblem nights&quot; at the Chariot races: they refrained from idols, and were sacrificially generous.  They were the ones not just doing good but doing good for the right reasons -- and making it known that Christ was made flesh and dwelt among men.

Bethany has demonstrated one part of the problem.  The other part is not &quot;them&quot;: it is &lt;strong&gt;us&lt;/strong&gt;.  God be willing that we will take the log out of our own eye first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an interesting problem with Bethany&#8217;s latest video &#8212; and it goes back to one of her first couple of videos about &#8220;faith night&#8221; at sports events.</p>
<p>My problem is <em>not</em> that Bethany is wrong about politicians leveraging churches and the faith of people for benefit at the polls.  She&#8217;s right about the play to the Cross being an ever-popular (and useful) tool of demagoguery.  My problem is that she doesn&#8217;t see that it is the kind of &#8220;Christianity&#8221; that thinks &#8220;faith night at the ball game&#8221; is actually promoting the Gospel which <em>falls for the church-as-scenery political plea.</em></p>
<p>Listen: it&#8217;s a robust faith that cannot be manipulated by political ends.  If we have a &#8220;faith&#8221; that is only pragmatic, and sees the church as a voting block which needs to be implementing laws through government when it cannot reach the hearts of men and women with the call to repent and believe, then we do not understand the message of the cross at all.</p>
<p>The question, really, is not &#8220;should Christians vote&#8221; (yes), or &#8220;is abortion immoral&#8221; (yes), but &#8220;is government our primary tool for reproaching society with its shortcomings?&#8221;  If we answer &#8220;yes&#8221; to that question, we are merely a different flavor of secular humanists.</p>
<p>Let me suggest something to the readers of Hot Air: the Christian faith once overcame a completely pagan and godless world &#8212; and it did it in a non-democratic civilization.  The method by which they did it is found in the <a href="http://www.monachos.net/patristics/ad_diognetum.shtml" rel="nofollow">Epistle to Diognetus</a> &#8212; and notice that they didn&#8217;t overcome the world either by preaching or believing a milquetoast Gospel or by taking over the seats of power: they did it by holding to a robust doctrine of the Cross and of Christ, and by <i>living differently</i> as dictated by that Gospel.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t have &#8220;fish-emblem nights&#8221; at the Chariot races: they refrained from idols, and were sacrificially generous.  They were the ones not just doing good but doing good for the right reasons &#8212; and making it known that Christ was made flesh and dwelt among men.</p>
<p>Bethany has demonstrated one part of the problem.  The other part is not &#8220;them&#8221;: it is <strong>us</strong>.  God be willing that we will take the log out of our own eye first.</p>
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		<title>By: swede</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80539</link>
		<dc:creator>swede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Hot Air!  Good report!

I&#039;ll be voting this year, don&#039;t know who they&#039;re polling...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Hot Air!  Good report!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be voting this year, don&#8217;t know who they&#8217;re polling&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ELCore</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/24/faith-friendly-politicians/comment-page-1/#comment-80508</link>
		<dc:creator>ELCore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bethany rules!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bethany rules!</p>
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