Faith-friendly politicians

posted at 8:32 am on October 24, 2006 by Bryan

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First comment of the day: Best. Press Play. Ever. I like hard-edged Bethany. Give it to them, girl!

Michelle on October 24, 2006 at 8:45 AM

It takes more than just a well filmed ad to show where you stand both as a politician and christian. I am always bothered by only hearing about a politicans faith around election time.

Carlton Matthews on October 24, 2006 at 8:54 AM

Oh, great, now my beautiful smile quota has been filled for the whole day, and it’s only nine in the morning. Two questions:

1. How does Ford and Corker’s stances measure up with the Bible?
2. How do we measure what stances on political issues the Bible would support?

I guess its all subjective, so my knee jerk reaction is to say, “Keep political ads out of the church.” But who knows? Maybe one of these guys who are doing it really are keeping in step with the good word, and just want people to know their religious. I think it’s been more of a bounty than a weight for President Bush, plus the guy believes what he’s talking about, so bonus points. Oh, well.

Savage on October 24, 2006 at 9:08 AM

Interesting analysis. I found the frequent cuts in the edit distracting, along with the drumbeat in the background.

I’ve always found the double standard interesting regarding the use of black churches by Democrats and the charges of “theocracy” against white Republican Christians.

MCPO Airdale on October 24, 2006 at 9:27 AM

Well if anyone of them acted like they were christians then it might make a difference to me but it seems all of them are involved in various scandals involving money, pages, or whatever.

Show me an honest Republican and I’ll vote for him/her.

Benaiah on October 24, 2006 at 9:43 AM

An excellent segment Bethany. How do you spell ACLU HYPOCRISY?

liberty on October 24, 2006 at 9:45 AM

Perhaps those on the left don’t worry about Democratic Christian leaders as much because they don’t have quite the near-term history of governing from the pulpit.

GregH on October 24, 2006 at 9:47 AM

Alright, it’s cynical, and slightly off the point, but Ford had that thunb-fist thing going. That “I fight like a girl” fist. (No offence to women that fight like men. Wait–that just made the hole deeper. I’ll shut up now.)

It’s just hard to take a guy seriously in a church when he’s presenting himself as a politician.

For example, Corker wasn’t in a church but was presenting himself as a missionary, and he came off much more church-ed than Ford.

Need to reshoot Ford outside and put his hands thoughtfully in his pockets for the DVD release.

Axe on October 24, 2006 at 9:48 AM

The second time I watched it (the first I was blinded by her beautiful smile) I thought it was really good. She’s right. Appearing in church for a commercial, won’t earn you the votes of the religious voters.

americanpundit on October 24, 2006 at 9:49 AM

As far as I’m concerned, the politicians can parade their faith all they want, in commercials, being seen coming out of church, etc. I judge them on their actions; do their actions speak of Christian values? Or do their actions show them to be ‘using’ religion as a means of gaining voters?

It is ridiculous, though, how the MSM and the liberal left have lambasted Pres. Bush over his faith; while I’m sure that he’s no saint, I do believe he tries to apply Christian values to his actions.

Regardless, very informative vent as usual; and it was great seeing the lovely Bethany first thing this morning.

dalewalt on October 24, 2006 at 9:51 AM

(sigh)

*thumb, not thunb. Last correction. Sorry for all these corrections.

Axe on October 24, 2006 at 9:56 AM

MIRACLE, MIRACLE!
Ford starts the advertising with the Armstrong yellow band on his right wrist, but by the time he is about to say “I approve…” his hand goes down and out of the frame for an instant, and comes back…with no band! And you thought David Copperfield was the only one who could do that!

Ropera on October 24, 2006 at 9:58 AM

That’s okay Axe. Next time, try typing without watching Bethany… trust me, it’s much easier.

dalewalt on October 24, 2006 at 10:00 AM

In addition to most of the statements above…

Notice the difference in the messages.

Ford (standing in a church) states he went to church because his parents “forced him”.
Corker (sitting outside) states he served as a missionary to Haiti because of his faith.

Also, Ford WHILE IN A CHURCH, doesn’t make one specific faith-based message about his stand on the issues, while in Corker’s ad it prominently displays “PRO-LIFE”.

I think the point here is obvious. Ford is using a church to try to appeal to the constituency he needs to win, and whether or not his faith is true, his use of a church for such a purpose is shameful.

Lone Star on October 24, 2006 at 10:13 AM

This really was the best Press Play on Vent. The topic was perennial but especially timely given the use of God as a football in the TN Senate race. If Ford wins, due credit should go to that ad which was very well done. The take-away message is that if Ford wins, you can count him among the Dems on the Capitol steps (if they still exist) singing God Bless America following the next 9-11 attacks.

Valiant on October 24, 2006 at 10:19 AM

The Hotair network continues to take shape.

Theworldisnotenough on October 24, 2006 at 10:21 AM

Very good Press Play; the message is well done.

Ford stood in a church to complain about what Corker was saying about him. Not the best use of a church scene, IMO.

Also IMO, it does seem to take two runs through the film to be able to focus on Bethany’s message; at least, for one gender.

Mike O on October 24, 2006 at 10:29 AM

It’s good to see Bethany hit hard on an issue. Well done.

Corker is better than Ford. But truth be told, he was one of the most Liberal people in his party’s primary. His “Pro-Life” stance did not get as strict as it is now until he decided to run for Senate and he still has exceptions for using abortion that are not just to save the life of the mother. Bottom line, Bob may be a good builder, but he’s not really as Conservative as he’s playing himself up to be. (Remember, you heard the Bob The Builder joke from me first ;) .) Like Bill Frist he’s going to spin Left on some things and disappoint, assuming he wins.

Of course I want Ford to lose, but in all honesty Corker is not the best man in the race. Personally I prefer Emory ‘Bo’ Heyward who is on the ballot as well. I made a post about what makes him better here.

Also, it seems the issue of Bob hiring illegal aliens has disappeared since the Republican Primary ended.

IndependentConserv on October 24, 2006 at 10:31 AM

Thanks Michelle!

realVerse on October 24, 2006 at 10:31 AM

Great job, Bethany.

Your right on target, again.

Well done.

Lawrence on October 24, 2006 at 10:46 AM

Typical of the Left. God doesn’t belong in our schools, laws, and courtrooms, but trotting Him out as a political good luck charm in campaign ads is standard operating procedure. What hypocrisy.

infidel4life on October 24, 2006 at 10:53 AM

Marvelous work, Bethany :)

That point you raise of Democrats never being condemned for using “minority churches” as an electioneering outlet really deserves an A+

It’s not so much that this is necessarily a problem in the first place – e.g. normal people would like to know that their candidate isn’t corruptible, indecent, dishonest (in short, a scoundrel). One’s demonstrable association with faith is traditionally reassuring. The problem is that the Left’s “enlightened” standards (“church-and-state! church-and-state! church-and-state! church-and-state!” ad nauseum) only ever actually apply to their opponents and are conveniently side-stepped when it’s for their own advantage.

A most shocking example was when Hillary! used an African-American church to make that “plantation” remark about Republicans. Really, that’s the party of Lincoln she’s talking about!

Thank you for a wonderful Press Play; that was the best yet :)

lazerua on October 24, 2006 at 11:04 AM

I think many commenters above are correct that Bob Corker is more socially conservative than many Evangelical Christians would like. And he’s far from perfect.

Interestingly, I met Bob at a 5-day prayer retreat a number of years ago and found him to be a good, decent man long before there was any hint of is ever running for Senate.

It’s amazing how well you can get to know someone when you are in that kind of setting. I voted for Bob in early voting and well, pray he wins his election. He stands most for the principles I think are most vital to this country right now and going forward.

Nice job again, Bethany!

Webutante

Webutante on October 24, 2006 at 11:11 AM

Just two critical questions:

1) Bethany lives in my own Tennessee? Hmmm.

2) Did I just see Harold “Got My Daddy’s House Seat Cuz We Have the Same Name” Ford wearing a bright yellow LiveStrong bracelet while wearing a suit and tie and making a political commercial? Seriously?

What. A. Dork. Then again, maybe it was a Swatch.

Professor Blather on October 24, 2006 at 11:18 AM

The Beth is mighty, and shall prevail.

mymanpotsandpans on October 24, 2006 at 11:18 AM

Yeah when it comes to Dem there is a free pass from the “seperation of Church and State” maybe we don’t take them serious about their religion or if your a republican religous person your a radical.

Is Steele from Merryland or Maryland?

Drtuddle on October 24, 2006 at 11:21 AM

I know it’s good to be blind to this sort of thing….but Harold Ford, Jr is a minority?

jjjen on October 24, 2006 at 11:40 AM

What a contrast –

Coker puts what he learned at Church into ACTION, he volunteered to travel and lead a humanitarian mission in Haiti…

Ford stays inside the church as uses it as a prop.

It’s like church service is “the huddle” and when the service was over, Coker went out, and made a play.

Ford, on the other hand, thinks being in the huddle is enough…

flagwaver on October 24, 2006 at 11:46 AM

Politicians wearing the Livestrong band diminish the meaning the band has for so many people. People like Tony Snow.

A handler must have told him to remove the band for the second shot where his wrist is on the pew, as otherwise it would be pretty bright and obvious.

digitalintrigue on October 24, 2006 at 1:23 PM

Thanks Bethany and HotAir for getting this message out. The left seems to think that Christian conservatives are going to stay home and not vote — do the polls tell them that? Christians are good people, but I think some of us lie when being polled — just to surprise them on election day.

I, for one will not fall in line with the media’s demand of “becoming frustrated” with Republicans and staying home. Nice try though.

wytammic on October 24, 2006 at 1:30 PM

Good message.

Liberals have no clue what the constitution or the amendments say, nor do they really care. After all it is a living breathing document according to them.

The constant cuts,zooms, new shots was somewhat distracting.

MarkB on October 24, 2006 at 1:45 PM

Bethany,

our son has recently returned from Iraq…he is conservative, handsome (from his mothers looks) and is currently back in college. Think of the beautiful conservative music you guys could make together..lol…oh yeah, great job again…..

robo on October 24, 2006 at 1:59 PM

When the RNC runs an ad showing a apparently unclad woman (and white and blonde of course) with this Playboy bunny reference–based on the fact that Ford attended a Playboy sponsored party at the Super Bowl, they are effectively saying to TN voters: “we think you are a bunch of stupid, racists Bible thumpers”.

Good for Corker for condemning this.

honora on October 24, 2006 at 2:15 PM

Excellent Press Play! Thank you Michelle and Bethany.
You are making a difference.

Please keep the encouragment coming for your viewers to get out and vote. You might also encourage small contributions to good candidates inside or outside their voting areas in the short time that is left. The investment just might provide multiple returns in lower taxes – as well as a safer country.

roydee43 on October 24, 2006 at 2:24 PM

Thanks Michelle!

realVerse on October 24, 2006 at 10:31 AM

No, thank you.

BadBrad on October 24, 2006 at 2:46 PM

On the left side of the Hot Air home page there is an advertisement for “Rightroots”. They make it very easy to contribute $10 or more to any one of several conservative candidates for Congress.

(They also help support Hot Air by advertising here)

roydee43 on October 24, 2006 at 3:11 PM

Bethany rules!

ELCore on October 24, 2006 at 3:12 PM

Thanks Hot Air! Good report!

I’ll be voting this year, don’t know who they’re polling…

swede on October 24, 2006 at 3:34 PM

I have an interesting problem with Bethany’s latest video — and it goes back to one of her first couple of videos about “faith night” at sports events.

My problem is not that Bethany is wrong about politicians leveraging churches and the faith of people for benefit at the polls. She’s right about the play to the Cross being an ever-popular (and useful) tool of demagoguery. My problem is that she doesn’t see that it is the kind of “Christianity” that thinks “faith night at the ball game” is actually promoting the Gospel which falls for the church-as-scenery political plea.

Listen: it’s a robust faith that cannot be manipulated by political ends. If we have a “faith” that is only pragmatic, and sees the church as a voting block which needs to be implementing laws through government when it cannot reach the hearts of men and women with the call to repent and believe, then we do not understand the message of the cross at all.

The question, really, is not “should Christians vote” (yes), or “is abortion immoral” (yes), but “is government our primary tool for reproaching society with its shortcomings?” If we answer “yes” to that question, we are merely a different flavor of secular humanists.

Let me suggest something to the readers of Hot Air: the Christian faith once overcame a completely pagan and godless world — and it did it in a non-democratic civilization. The method by which they did it is found in the Epistle to Diognetus — and notice that they didn’t overcome the world either by preaching or believing a milquetoast Gospel or by taking over the seats of power: they did it by holding to a robust doctrine of the Cross and of Christ, and by living differently as dictated by that Gospel.

They didn’t have “fish-emblem nights” at the Chariot races: they refrained from idols, and were sacrificially generous. They were the ones not just doing good but doing good for the right reasons — and making it known that Christ was made flesh and dwelt among men.

Bethany has demonstrated one part of the problem. The other part is not “them”: it is us. God be willing that we will take the log out of our own eye first.

centuri0n on October 24, 2006 at 3:56 PM

STOP With the Cuts and Edits Please

Bethany- You are so right on your message- so smooth and professional in your delivery of that meesage…. why soooo many cuts and edits??? The cuts actually detract from and reduce the effectiveness of your argument.

I know your smart enough and competent enough to deliver your “stand ups” in one take- or at least with out cuts. So go for it. I’ll take a missed word, a slip up,, an “ahh”but please stop with the cut aways every 5 seconds- you’re so much better than that.

You’re message content is always of such high quality, you’re stunningly good looking on camera, your enunciation and diction are great- let the words roll- you’ll be fine.

I can’t wait for your next spot
SM

c1scott on October 24, 2006 at 5:30 PM

Yeah, you’ll hold politicians accountable. Well, at least the Republicans will keep you busy with that.

Vanya on October 24, 2006 at 5:31 PM

That wasn’t a real church, the doors didn’t catch fire when Ford walked through ‘em.

Then there’s The Hilderbeast’s new diamond cross to laugh about, too.

WWJD?

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The Machine on October 24, 2006 at 6:26 PM

Am I the only one that finds it odd that politicians say “I’m So-and-So and I approve this message” at the end of commercials that focused ONLY on them.

I’m sure it’s a regulatory thing and all, but, it makes me laugh all the same. I mean, I doubt there’s anyone under the impression that the two men in the ads were confused into saying these wonderful things about themselves. Obviously they approve ads that they feature prominently in.

It’s just one more piece of regulatory redundancy to waste our time/money with.

JadeNYU on October 24, 2006 at 6:54 PM

Really great video today. Thanks!

Tom Shakely on October 24, 2006 at 8:08 PM

Awsome “Press Play” way to go Bethany!

Viper1 on October 24, 2006 at 8:11 PM

“is government our primary tool for reproaching society with its shortcomings?”

Obviously not. But participation in politics is a responsibility too often ignored by too many Christians. If more had accepted this responsibility there would not be 3000 babies aborted every day and the definition of marriage would not be an issue.

roydee43 on October 24, 2006 at 8:23 PM

Best Press Play yet. Good topic and analysis.Great job Bethany. Can I call you Beth? Well, maybe not.

vcferlita on October 24, 2006 at 8:40 PM

I can’t hold back anymore, all the women on this site are really hot. There, i said it and i feel better. Please continue with your thoughtful political debate.

Scot on October 24, 2006 at 10:06 PM

I am going to vote tomorrow after I get out of class /o/
I would have gone today, but I didn’t get out of class in time. What’s weird is, for the first time, I’m planning to go in and just check the straight-Republican box, not out of any love for the Reps, but out of a ice-cold hatred of how the Dems and the left want to take my country. IT’S MY COUNRTY. MY FAMILY HAS BLED FOR IT, AND I WON’T LET THEM RUN IT INTO THE GROUND. .\ /.

SaidinUnleashed on October 24, 2006 at 10:46 PM

This is the best vent from Bethany to date! Excellent content, pertinent and timely topic, and very well presented. More Please!

I found it particularly intersting about the left’s double standard – faith is OK if it is from the left but not if from someone they do not approve of.

omegaram on October 24, 2006 at 11:28 PM

I think I’ve brought this up on another thread, but I’ll keep banging the drum… RealVerse deserves a place on the Hot Links sidebar here. If this video doesn’t qualify them, I don’t know what will.

For the record, I have no connections with Bethany or realVerse. I’m just an avid fan.

Hack Ptui on October 24, 2006 at 11:47 PM

Has anyone else from the sidebar done a vent? Bethany seems to have earned a privileged status here – much better than any sidebar spot.

BTW There is a “Make a Donation” button on the Realverse homepage now.

roydee43 on October 25, 2006 at 12:37 AM

If a republican had filmed an ad in a church, Barry Lynn would be a fixture on the cable shows for a week.

Scot on October 25, 2006 at 2:48 AM

Good job Bethany!

TallTim on October 25, 2006 at 9:28 AM