news…

I will still, of course, be voting.

Instead of saying “when hell freezes over” or “when pigs fly” we should say “when the enforcement-only methods of H.R. 4437 are accepted by the Senate…”

And, a post on this subject wouldn’t be complete without a link to this activist site and this real-time immigration counter site, now with anchor baby counters included!

I heard Mark Steyn on the O’Reilly radio show this morning and he said our southern border is “a disgrace.”

Republicans = No border enforcement.
Democrats = No border enforecement with drivers licenses for illegal aliens.

This should be

Republicans = No border enforcement.
Democrats = No border enforecement with drivers licenses and voting rights for illegal aliens.

The choice is between an anemic pitbull with two teeth or a paralyzed poodle with none.

I’ll take Two Teeth over Gullible Gums.

Not happily, but resolutely.

That’s it, I quit!

A few years ago my father found out from the IRS that he was employing about 20 illegals. (The HR department for the Hospital he worked for has cleared the persons for employement and were not aware they were illegals) The INS required that he fired them, and he did. However they were never deported and just moved on using the same fake SSN’s to other jobs.

We must not just let me just bounce from job to job.

I believe it’s already against the law. Otherwise why would the IRS send out letters saying that the SSN’s of “Juan Doe” doesn’t exist.

E L Frederick on October 24, 2006 at 10:10 AM

By criminalizing I mean make it a felony so that some of these employers end up doing time.

Would consider criminalizing it as well.

I believe it’s already against the law. Otherwise why would the IRS send out letters saying that the SSN’s of “Juan Doe” doesn’t exist.

Allah, where did the President make that face originally?

americanpundit on October 24, 2006 at 9:23 AM

Was it when he was “explaining” that “stay the course” is “only about one-quarter of the plan”?

I may be confusing that with the face I was making…..

All I can say is that in 2008, there had better be a canidate with balls enough to promise a real fence and real soultion to this issue.

1) Increase the number of legal immigrants allowed into the US.
2) Increase number of people doing the background checks so the line moves faster.
3) Increase law enforcement of current laws against illegals
4) Build a real fence.
5) Limit the age of legal immigrants so that people who have not put into Social Security can in for free.
6) Limit the number of uneducated immigrants, or at least install an express lane for those who are more desireable.

Common sense ways to make it work.

E L Frederick on October 24, 2006 at 8:55 AM

All good ideas, but none as key IMO as slapping serious fines on employers who continue to break the law. Would consider criminalizing it as well.

Allah, where did the President make that face originally?

1) Increase the number of legal immigrants allowed into the US.
2) Increase number of people doing the background checks so the line moves faster.
3) Increase law enforcement of current laws against illegals
4) Build a real fence.
5) Limit the age of legal immigrants so that people who have not put into Social Security can in for free.
6) Limit the number of uneducated immigrants, or at least install an express lane for those who are more desireable.

Common sense ways to make it work.

The fence bill is a step in the right direction. The President’s plan was a BIG step in the wrong direction. We could have been stuck with a lousy compromise, but instead we got this. Bush may not like it, but I do.

Now all we need is to get existing laws enforced.

This immigration idiocy is getting old. I see noone bitching about the visas, where half the illegal immigration is coming from.

Looks like the cost of prescription drugs are falling, thanks to the competition of private companies, who happened to get the bulk of the business from the prescription drug plan. This drug plan was a platform of the Republican party in 2004, so why bitch about it after you voted the party in who ran on it.

Republicans – the stupid party full of whiney voters who look for the next issue they can get in a snit about. Reagan went through this too from such stellar Republicans, as well.

I would not vote Democrat and leave the troops to suffer for it.

No, he has not. He has been worse. Clinton essentially ignored the issue, continuing the status quo of virtually no enforcement. Bush has actively reduced employer sanction, pushed for massive expansion of immigration, and intimidated border patrol agents into not doing their jobs.

And he has done this in the post 9/11 world. Open borders to not mesh with national security in a time of credible threats.

If only it were really going to be a fence. It seems to work in Israel. Even China can manage to whip one up without too much trouble.

The width of the Yalu River, which forms the border between China and North Korea, near the fences is less than 10 meters, which means crossing the river is relatively easy.

A nearby resident said, “The fences were built a week or so ago, though we don’t know why.”

Locals said the fences seem to be to prevent North Koreans from illegally crossing the border into China.

Imagine that.

No. Please don’t accuse me of doing that. I intend to use my the right to vote, and to use the right to vote Republican. Please don’t misunderstand me. My only thing is that immigration laws aren’t tough enough. Bush has still done a better job on our borders, than any of the Democrats did.

americanpundit on October 23, 2006 at 11:50 PM

I wrote you a detailed response that seems to have been caught in the HA spam filter for some reason, and hasn’t made it’s way out yet, so I won’t write as lengthy a response this time other than to say that when I said “AP” I was referring to AllahPundit, not you. It is that AP who has threatened to not just stay home, but to actually vote straight Democrat and there seems to be a bit of a following for such insanity. I would like to repeat a lot of my other points, but I don’t want to waste time and have the comment not show up again.

Thank you, Mr. President, for this symbolic act of election-year pandering. I haven’t been so grateful for this kind of pandering since 1996, when your predecessor signed the welfare reform bill. Please, Mr. President: Pander some more! …

Is this the part where you and other commenters again threaten to stay home on election day again AP?

Nobody’s threatening any such thing, RW. But it is a fact that the Bush administration’s adamant advocacy of amnesty has alienated many, many thousands of voters — especially working-class voters — who believe that they’ve been sold out in favor of Wall Street’s desire for cheap labor.

Making accusations of bad faith against those of us who have urged the administration to correct its politically disastrous open-borders position is not going to win back any votes for the GOP.

I’ve noticed a meme going around: It’s OK for conservatives to criticize Republicans except during election season, at which point everybody must parrot RNC talking-points.

If I wanted groupthink, I’d be a liberal.