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posted at 8:29 am on October 20, 2006 by Bryan

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HELP!!! I agree with Kirsten Powers! Someone save me before I go over to the dark side!

Kevin M on October 20, 2006 at 3:03 PM

Excellent Vent!

Catie96706, I know about your children from various posts, but I didn’t know about your first. It must be vary hard for you to think about. God bless you and your family; hope your hubby is safe as well.

BlueStateBlues on October 20, 2006 at 3:03 PM

I implore E L Fredrick and aelhues to re-evaluate their stated position.

CyberCipher on October 20, 2006 at 1:08 PM

CyberCipher, I agree… but if you tell them to do something they never will…

Just means you got the point… :)

E L Frederick on October 20, 2006 at 3:21 PM

To consider the mutilation of a viable baby in the womb up until the 9th month in some states, murder, is not in my book an extreme view at all. With modern medical diagnostic technology and the vast amounts of information we have available at the touch of our fingers…ignorance of the law (of nature) is no excuse. Only a hollowed out heart can justify the killing of the most innocent. ^5 to La Shawn for being a voice for the unborn and not hiding in the shadows of the greatest issue of our times.

PhoebeMoses on October 20, 2006 at 3:22 PM

vcferlita

Yeah I Love Steve Taylor and wish he would go back to music. His social satire is more appropriate today than ever!

Drtuddle on October 20, 2006 at 3:23 PM

Thank you, La Shawn….thank you.

You ladies are simply the best.

Applause all around.

The Ugly American on October 20, 2006 at 4:17 PM

KP is ok, but Michelle is incredibly gorgeous. Not even close in my view.

Coffeepot John on October 20, 2006 at 4:31 PM

HELP!!! I agree with Kirsten Powers! Someone save me before I go over to the dark side!

Kevin M on October 20, 2006 at 3:03 PM

Help?

Don’t do it – she might abort you if this country should ever slant communist as she would remember your once core ideology.

ar_basin on October 20, 2006 at 4:38 PM

These are fun to watch.
On a technical note, can the person doing the filming get a clue about audio balances? Poor LaShawn sounds like she’s shouting and the other levels are way to low. Get some decent mics and do some mixing of the sound. And bring in some of the low end. It all sounds a little shrill (the sound, not the commentary).

Keep up the good work.

robopope on October 20, 2006 at 4:38 PM

PS Oh and Spurious…were you breast fed or a formula baby?
PhoebeMoses on October 20, 2006 at 2:44 PM

Very funny … I think.

In my defense, I’ll call as my witness Homer Simpson: who, when Marge was trying to suggest to him that a new “best buddy” of his was gay, said:

“But he prefers the company of men!
To which Homer answers, “Who doesn’t?”

Sure, I’m a distinct minority in this instance; but I stand by my dissent that “The Vent” can be so much more than what I’ve seen in its first two outings.

I mean, we’ve got all this high-powered potential – four smart, tough, savvy commentators who can talk about heavy-duty, serious issues of the day – but it gets spent on subjects that I’d just as soon tune in to “Good Morning America” or “The View” for. It’s like watching the big cannon at the circus, anticipating as the fuse burns down, only to see it spit out a little flag which, when it unfurls, reads, “Bang.”

I’m not saying it’s “bad.” And I yield to no one in being a big fan of Michelle’s Vents. I guess I just set my expectations too high for this particular format.

Spurius Ligustinus on October 20, 2006 at 4:46 PM

From a mass media guy (radio and TV experience):

Get sound checks on all positions, LaShawn’s mic too hot, others need just a notch up level. If it’s a boom mic, center it, off camera, and give everyone fifteen seconds or fifty words to speak so the levels can be set before taping. Simple countdowns don’t cover the range of speech patterns, inflections, and reactions (laughter, etc.) well.

Great discussion, powerful topics, and no contest for the left wingers, liberals, and illegitimate Americans that do not find this assemblage, discussion, and political slant refreshing and uplifting.

Great job, gals.

Spider Dan on October 20, 2006 at 4:53 PM

Catie,

Thanks for your courage and honesty. As a recovering alcholic/addict, I can look back at many decisions I’d rather not have made. But I’ve come to believe it takes what it takes to get us where we are, and forgiving ourselves is necessary to do the best we can from here forward.

I don’t know that any of us deserves our children. They are a precious gift. I suspect your adopted child is lucky to have you as a Mom.

mikeyboss on October 20, 2006 at 4:54 PM

As the father of a fantastic son and recent grandfather, of a beautiful baby girl, I applaud all four of you ladies for defending the defenseless. “Parasite”? “Tick”? That is beyond sick and THAT is defenseless!

This “View” was far better than the first (although it seemed to end rather abruptly) so keep up the good fight. America is lost only when you and I give up and surrender to the leftist losers of “anything goes as long as you agree with me” mentality.

NotaSlickFan on October 20, 2006 at 5:22 PM

This is exactly the sort of communication that should be happening ALL the time. I am getting some ides from all of this. Maybe even a way to insert reason into YouTube …
If only I wasn’t so technologically backwards.

ValhallaMike on October 20, 2006 at 5:25 PM

As a conservative woman who came of age in the 60s when feminism seemed like such a good idea, I became a liberal and all that went with it. Unfortunately, it included being pro-choice. We chanted women needed “The Right to Choose!” Women deserved the Right to Choose!

Today, older and wiser, and very much a conservative, I realize how ridiculous and immature it all was and still is.

Women have the right to choose and they should choose on the front end of sex outside marriage, or inside for that matter.

What women who want abortion on demand and sometimes multiple abortions is the Right NOT to Choose, and then opps,if I don’t like the outcome of not choosing, THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE AGAIN.

And it enables immaturity, irresponsibility and arrested development in women-girls.

Sex outside marriage has become de rigeur, but I have seen so many broken marriages and lives from all this craziness.
And it makes me sad, even as the feminists are revving up for the Abortion Pride movement.

The end must be very near…

Webutante

Webutante on October 20, 2006 at 5:30 PM

The argument I never see WRT abortion in the US, is that intrinsically it’s a legal service that is offered in our free-market capitalist society.

This service is very much in demand.

Clearly a fetus is the third party in this situation, so of course morally abortion is murder.

But here’s the thing, if abortions are made illegal, the service will still be in demand. Look at how successful the war on drugs is.

Abortions will only go away when they are no longer in demand. Whether that happens through a change in attitude (every mother wants to keep her baby), obsolescence (you never get pregnant unless you want to), or some other means doesn’t matter.

So, the question is simply how can the demand for abortions be eliminated?

My Tech Note — Man you guys are getting hammered over the audio already, so this is the only mention I’ll make of it.

The opening scenes point out the importance of tally lights. I’d also suggest greater care with the camera framing – MKH is nearly cropped out of many of her shots. And SOMEONE please close the kitchen cabinet door!

Apart from that I realize it’s a labor of love done on a shoestring. Each one is better than the one before it. Keep up the great work!

DuffBeer on October 20, 2006 at 6:29 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MICHELLE!

I saw it was your birthday on your other site and thought I’d drop you a happy birthday note.

Not that you’ll see this or anything–or that you know who the heck I am, but still!

jaleach on October 20, 2006 at 6:34 PM

Wow, what a great program. Rational discussion, great points made. Head and shoulders over anything I have seen anywhere else on the topic in years.

All four of you are wonderful. Thanks.

DaMav on October 20, 2006 at 7:00 PM

Happy Birthday, Michelle; what are you now, 25?

One other aspect of the abortion issue that is never discussed is just how bad a Constitutional decision it really was. It took an elective medical procedure of convenience and made it a Constitutional right. Remember, the highly regulated medical industry is involved in this; it isn’t something a woman does on herself. We do not have a constitutional right for life-saving procedures, nor nose jobs, nor lipsuction. But this one procedure we do. Strip away all the emotion of the subject and just look at that.

Roe v. Wade was ridiculous; abortion clearly falls under the 10th Amendment and belongs at the state level.

Mike O on October 20, 2006 at 7:05 PM

Brava, ladies! Brava!

Superb “Vent”! Excellent topic, wonderful discussion.

Happy Birthday, Micheele!

Jack.

Jack Deth on October 20, 2006 at 7:19 PM

It’s refreshing to see a hot topic like this discussed in a rational fashion; although, it helps that everyone has roughly the same opinion (although KP did not seem too happy with LS’s statement that abortion is murder).

A few years ago, in my sophomore year of college, I sat around as a group of my girls from my class talked about how stupid the pro-life position was and how hypocritical it was and how all pro-life people were stupid. Then they looked over at me (I was in the room but wasn’t part of their discussion) and said, “Jessica, you think abortion is wrong, don’t you?”

Right, like I’m dumb enough to get into that conversation. I said, “I don’t discuss politics at school.” which is a copout (I’m a bit of a confrontation chicken) but I also don’t see the point of attempting to discuss something with people who are clearly out for blood rather than information.

Intelligent discussion is definitely missing from politics (and many other places as well) these days. At least in ancient times, rhetoric was an art and would be fun to listen to. Now, there’s nothing more ‘artful’ about it than deciding if you’re going to dismiss someone as an idiot, a racist, or a facist.

JadeNYU on October 20, 2006 at 7:29 PM

I love these “The Vent” episodes.

I hope there’s another one next Friday.

The content is great and everyone gets along.

Dan866 on October 20, 2006 at 7:40 PM

Michelles’ birthday is one day after mine? Oooo, we’re Libras (not that I follow that schtuff.) Happy Birthday Michelle! :o)

Great Ventage today. Whenever I see La Shawn I keep expecting her to offer me a cookie & tell me everything will be “right as rain”. She’s so sweet.

Coronagold on October 20, 2006 at 7:43 PM

Spurius Ligustinus said

…I stand by my dissent that “The Vent” can be so much more than what I’ve seen in its first two outings.

And

I guess I just set my expectations too high for this particular format.

Next Vent: The Fab Four discuss
Men Who Suffer Premature Conclusion: Do Some Of Them Invite Scorn?
•Take Them In Hand?
Or avoid the inevitable mess by simply ignoring them?
•Haughtiness – Not a good look for men.
•Many men have no idea what real girl-talk is. Many of them would quail – the rest overheard their sisters chatting with her girlfriends.
•“Good Morning America” or “The View” will never, ever air Real Girl-Talk as long as there’s an FCC.

Stephen M on October 20, 2006 at 7:44 PM

Good episode. The use of the words “tick” and “parasite” is rather alarming. I hope that kind of verbiage doesn’t become more prevalent in our society, as it would certainly be a further step downward from things like “tissue blob” and would probably further modify how people think about the issue. Perhaps we’ll wake up one day and find our chattering pundits referring to toddler as ticks? What a brave new world that would be…

Ideas and words have consequences. It’s a pity that the pro-choice movement has largely defined the semantics in this debate.

pantelope on October 20, 2006 at 7:46 PM

Um, how does one apply for a gig as cameraman?!

MrBuzzcut on October 20, 2006 at 7:55 PM

Gosh, how I love technology, and this is a good example why.

I have to admit, though…as a woman I just don’t get all worked up over the leg thing. I guess I will have to leave that to the gents to notice and appreciate.

Bob's Kid on October 20, 2006 at 8:20 PM

Excellent Vent.

Thank you all for being so civilized and reasonable. I learned much from KP today about clinics, the people behind them and how they could be improved. I agree with most all KP said about how they should be operated to be equally compatible with positions of the left and the right. You are obviously a great lady and a wonderful person, ma’am.

LaShawn you are an angel. I admire your convictions and your wonderful attitude towards the subject. I think you are a calm rational breath of fresh air in an irrational world. I support you and your position that a fetus is a life at conception. Thank you ma’am.

MK I applaud your points, and think you had more to offer to the discussion, but it seemed time ran out. Nevertheless you impress me mightily, ma’am. I love hearing your reasoned arguments and piercing insight.

MM, Happy Birthday, dear. This gathering is a stroke of sheer genius, and should certainly be part of a much larger platform and format. One day your choices in companions will be vindicated and will result in much greater exposure and acclaim for this group. I would watch this discussion every day even if you all wore burkhas. You have chosen the best minds available, and I thank you for that.

Now, at the risk of being sexist, I will add you are four of the hottest ladies I have ever seen. Smokin’ hot. And I thank you for brightening my day and lifting my burdens (which are not insignificant) by the uplifting and inspirational combination of brains and beauty you gathered today. All of you deserve flowers and congratulations for your efforts and your finely honed and reasoned arguments. Thank you ladies. You made my day.

Subsunk

Subsunk on October 20, 2006 at 8:25 PM

BlueStateBlues & Mikey, I thought long and hard about what I was going to write after I finished watching the Vent this morning. It is a hard thing to admit that I did. I guess yesterday I posted something responding to something about the abortion debate and it was pretty mean sounding. I guess I needed to say where I was coming from. The funny thing is though, my husband still doesn’t even know about it. I think even though it happened 4 years before I even met him he would have a difficult time understanding. I was seeing someone a year or so later and told him and he said he couldn’t respect someone who did that so that was it with him. I guess then I clammed up about it when dating guys. Quite a few of my friends know because they were my friends then but they would never bring it up to my husband. I hope I do deserve my sweet children because as you said, I think we all sometimes wonder what we did to deserve these sweet (well sweet 98% of the time ;) ) kids.

Catie96706 on October 20, 2006 at 9:36 PM

Catie,

If you ever need another set of ears to listen, arwcw at hotmail dot com is my email.

Anytime…

BlueStateBlues on October 20, 2006 at 9:55 PM

I am happy to report……….I have a liberal friend, she always said that if she ever was pregnant that she would abort it.

On my encouraging, she went to get a sonagram

She is keeping the baby and taking the pregnancy to term

Praise GOD!

foamysranting on October 20, 2006 at 10:14 PM

Someone needs to make abumper sticker that says “Sonograms save babies lives!”

Drtuddle on October 20, 2006 at 11:00 PM

She is keeping the baby and taking the pregnancy to term

good news!

Bob's Kid on October 20, 2006 at 11:06 PM

I guess we can all agree that tick and parasite are not apt words for the unborn, but what I really want to know is: who says mee-morandum?

notanexpert on October 21, 2006 at 12:55 AM

Keep these “The Vent” episodes coming! Maybe a friday tradition?

Defector01 on October 21, 2006 at 2:04 AM

Thank you Blue State BLues!

Catie96706 on October 21, 2006 at 2:45 AM

ok, I’ve just got to get this off my chest:

There’s nothing more erotic than watching beautiful and intelligent women discussing current affairs. Does this make me some kind of weird blogophile???

Also, is there a strategy behind the fact that Michelle and Kirsten were wearing mini-skirts while Mary K. and LaShawn wore considerably less-sexy clothes?

Back on topic: very enlightening discussion. At the end of the day it’s about where you draw the line, isn’t it?? Personally I would draw the line at 3 months pregnancy, but reluctantly so. Obviously contraception is infinitely preferable. It’s a hard call and should remain so. I.e. some decisions should not be banalised by terms like ‘my parasite’, they should remain uncomfortable decisions.

Aylios on October 21, 2006 at 4:34 AM

I am not getting this – four ill-informed people trying to recall that which they have read from a blog (of all places) and ‘discussing’ it… This adds to the sum of knowledge, how?

It would appear to me, that in an attempt to produce what you consider to be a better version of ‘The View’ – you have merely duplicated it – pap, pulp, fluff, and wholly disposable.

eminuu on October 21, 2006 at 4:39 AM

I’ve never understood why liberals worship at the Church of Abortion.

????

SouthernGent on October 21, 2006 at 9:36 AM

Stem cell research’s dirty little secret…
that no one ever addresses is that you can’t grow kidneys, livers, or other vital organs all by themselves. You have to grow them as a part of the whole person.

Currently the law is that all the aborted fetuses must be destroyed. Stem cell research will allow the cannibalization of all these aborted children for the use of their organs to save lives.

It would be very naive for us to think that some late term aborted children are not rushed out of the room and kept alive in incubators for organ harvesting at a later date. All that would be necessary for the organs to be used to save lives would be some “stem cell research.”

Experimentation on humans has always been a tempting scientific line because of the tremendous knowledge one can gain by doing it. No one could justify it on even death row prisons, but on the unborn it is about to become a reality, if it hasn’t already.

jack_in_the_box on October 21, 2006 at 10:04 AM

SouthernGent,

Good question. Secular Liberals worship at the church of Humanism (hence, Secular Humanism). Effectively, the worship themselves.

Their moral codes are relative, and they change as best suites their individual moods. Sometimes they promote view points that are contrary to the Western Biblical status quo, just because they are contrary.

They often like to call themselves Moderates, yet there is nothing ‘moderate’ about their views. Their view are actually very radical. A form of radical fundamentalism, but coming from the far left instead of the far right.

Very much similar to the liberal socialist views Hitler espoused before taking control of the German Government in the 1930s and creating his fascist government.

Lawrence on October 21, 2006 at 10:17 AM

Secular Liberals do not worship abortion. They worship Secular Humanism. Effectively, they worship themselves. Abortion is just a sigular practice of this worship.

Lawrence on October 21, 2006 at 10:21 AM

I had to watch this ‘View’ again this morning.

I can’t express how much I am in agreement with La Sawn’s comments.

Thanks La Shawn for standing up for all the tiny innocents being slaughtered on the alter of politically correctness, simply for someone’s individual ‘choice’.

{sigh}

Lawrence on October 21, 2006 at 10:27 AM

Thanks La Shawn for standing up for all the tiny innocents being slaughtered on the alter of politically correctness, simply for someone’s individual ‘choice’.

I agree thanks La Shawn for not mincing your words and as in the lyrics of Mr. Falsetto,AARON NEVILLE, “Tell it like it is”

Drtuddle on October 21, 2006 at 10:46 AM

My wife pointed out to me this morning that every fetus is pro-life until such time as it is born. Then it is free to choose to be pro-choice.

E L Frederick on October 21, 2006 at 12:47 PM

I like the new function for navigating through the different Vents.

Either it is new, or I am just now seeing it.

BlueStateBlues on October 21, 2006 at 1:55 PM

I definitely have heard ‘pro-choice at any cost’ people using the term “parasite” to describe a fetus. Over and over again. It’s nothing new in the liberal world, and if they find out that you are pro-life, they will use the that word in front of your face so that they can berate and judge you for judging them. Sick people.

RepJ on October 21, 2006 at 3:00 PM

Thank you ladies for providing an insightful View and a better reflection of our country. When extreme opinions are the most vocal, it encourages us to assume the other side is entirely that extreme, causing us to talk past each other and avoid the breadth of commonalities. This is why, I think, we are amazed that KP’s opinion is so reasonable.

It seems to me that most people would agree that abortion is not the ideal scenario, and the real dilemma that is often neglected is how best to limit it.

I think this Vent is excellent in that regard as it addresses our cultural attitudes and perhaps even shapes them. Ideally, even though abortion be legal, individuals would strongly choose to avoid it out of respect and their own sense of morality. It seems that culture may dictate propriety more than law.

I’m looking forward to more Vents, and I’m curious to see how your respectful debates progress. Thank you, again.

Kevin on October 21, 2006 at 4:00 PM

I guess we can all agree that tick and parasite are not apt words for the unborn, but what I really want to know is: who says mee-morandum?

notanexpert on October 21, 2006 at 12:55 AM

I cocked my head to the side upon hearing that curious pronunciation as well. :) But then it occurred to me that she was referring to the blog memeorandum.

Kevin on October 21, 2006 at 6:22 PM

I would suggest that the testorone-bearers in this comment section (I admit to being one, but a bit more ‘seasoned’ than some here) throttle it to some degree, Be gentlemen here, or the lovely ladies will be tempted to be more restrictive.

I think KP might agree with me that a sonogram should be mandatory, strictly from an informational viewpoint alone. It would be the only way that the unborn would have their say, even if only visually.

Mike O on October 21, 2006 at 6:45 PM

Jack_in_the_box, you obviously don’t know enough about the cellular differentiation process (I spent 5 years doing tissue culture). The value in the stem cell work is that their differntiation can be controlled by their environment and. Fetal organ harvesting is of very limited value in this arena.

Do I support embryonic stem cell research? Not until valid attempts are exhausted on getting everything possible from adult and cord blood stem cells. And the promise there far exceeds the desires for it from the ‘fetal tissue gang’, who support embryonic research more for political than scientific reasons.

And before everybody says ‘You obviously don’t have anybody who would benefit close to you’ , both my Alzeimer’s-afflicted mother and my son’s neurological tumors are areas of stem cell research. But I want ethical science to rule the day, not science aimed at socially engineering our perspective of human life.

Mike O on October 21, 2006 at 6:49 PM

wow 141 comments… great work…

Btw, another argument that I recall about abortion to counter the following:

“It’s my body, I can do what I want with it!”

“Keep your laws off my body.”

I’ve responded to these comments using these ideas.

At a given time in a womans life she will have a penis in her body…

Yes, I said penis… (The liberal moron will be floored and will start thinking about sex)

However, this situation isn’t meant to illustrate when a woman is having sex – no, rather, it’s during the time that she might be pregnant with a baby boy, a male.

The baby boy has a penis and it’s inside the mother… Hence, there is another body that is involved and that should be greatly considered.

ar_basin on October 21, 2006 at 10:37 PM

Even in my bad old liberal days I couldn’t be pro-abortion. That’s largely thanks to a man named Bernard Nathanson, an atheist who was one of the founders of NARAL. But unlike the co-founders and most of their supporters, he was honest and with the information he gained after abortion became legal he was turned around. His book, Aborting America, contained the evidence, scientific and factual, that gave me a voice to counter the shrill pro-abortion rhetoric. I wish Feminists For Life (http://www.feministsforlife.org/) had been around back then, but at least they’re there now, a great resource for those who don’t respond to spiritual reasoning. I have to commend liberals with consciences, I know that they get all kinds of #@!% from all sides.

Shay on October 22, 2006 at 2:47 PM

I named my World of Warcraft character after La Shawn! Beat that you bone heads!

Woohoo! I win!

TBinSTL on October 22, 2006 at 4:16 PM

Mike O,

When you state that fetal organ harvesting is of very little value, how little value do you mean? If the value say on the average came to only $500 per aborted child, this would be no small fortune. This would amount to considerably more than “very little.” I am not so naive or ignorant to think that even one kidney from each aborted child wouldn’t be worth considerably more than $500. Abortion is already a multi-million if not multi-billion dollar industry. If “stem cell research” is allowed I believe the abortion industry will become a multi-trillion dollar industry almost overnight. Think of all the parts that can be “saved” from being wasted. Corneas, livers, hearts, lungs, hands, feet. Not possible, someone might object, just give it time and research and the not possible turns into, not possible YET. This still doesn’t even scratch the surface of experimentation done on LIVING muscle, skeletal, nerve, brain tissue for admittedly astounding gains in medical capabilities.

jack_in_the_box on October 23, 2006 at 11:48 AM

The women of the Vent are wonderful and refreshing!

I love how there was no shouting, or babbling at mach 5, with all four women trying to out talk, or talk over one another, so that all one could hear was loud cackling, as takes place on “The View” so that audience members cannot understand anything that is being said.

Regarding abortion itself, I share LaShawn Barber’s sentiments but not the technical term “Murder.” Abortion of a baby is barbaric and should be illegal, but it is not illegal. Because abortion is legal it cannot, technically speaking, be termed “abortion.”

Abortion is the dismemberment, and slaughter by other means as well, of innocent, completely human persons. It is such an expression of disregard for the lives of others, and such a contradiction to the term “woman’s right to choose,” or “reproductive rights.”

Why?

Because females are slaughtered via abortion, often in greater numbers in relation to abortions of baby boys. Many females are terminated just because the parents wish to have boys, not girls.

Blacks are also disproportionately terminated-dismembered via abortion, as approximately 35% of all abortions in the United States are performed on black children. That is, of 100 abortions performed, 35 of them are performed on 13% of the population, while 65 of the remaining abortions are performed on the remaining 87% of the population.

Can anyone say “racism?” Is it not obvious that there is a clear targeting of back babies via abortion? Of course there is!

Regarding the comment that a baby is a parasite or a tick, let’s look at the scientific accuracy of that statement….

… Well, er…. there just ISN’T any scientific accuracy to the statement that a baby is a parasite. A person who holds such a view is using poetic license, not scientific accuracy or scientific fact!

A parasite is an organism of one species which either attaches to, or invades an organism of another species from outside that species, which we will call the “host.” That means that one organism, the parasite, must be of a different species from the host species.

The parasite draws off the host, providing no benefits to the host, but eventually leading to the damage and/or destruction, and eventual death of the host.

Unlike the parasite, a human baby is an organism of the same species as her mother.

A human baby does not invade her mother from the outside, but comes to being from within mother via natural, biological means of reproduction, via conception-fertilization in which the genetic material of the father and the mother have blended, resulting in a new, genetically unique, living human embryonic zygote, a new human being, the process of reproduction for which mother’s body is naturally prepared and designed to perform and partake in.

Baby does not normally draw on mother and damage her or lead to her death as a parasite would. Baby embeds into the uterine wall initially but in a short time baby is self contained within the womb in her amniotic sac, and does not draw directly from mother for sustenance, as a parasite would do. Instead baby receives her nutrition, etc., via the semi-separate home of the amniotic sac within mother’s womb, connected to mother indirectly, and receiving nutrition via the umbilical cord which is attached to the placenta which is attached to the wall of the uterus.

Baby is involved in a biological and metabolic dependency on mother which is temporary. Mother does benefit from pregnancy, as some women with endometriosis have found that pregnancy has helped with that condition, and mothers who have given birth and breastfeed their baby enjoy an increased protection from breast cancer, and enjoy the benefits of the calming effects of prolactin which is released when mother nurses baby, a benefit shared by both mother and baby.

No, a baby is not a parasite.

For those who choose to love, a baby is a blessing and a joy.

Rather than promote and fund abortion in our culture, more opportunities and support could be given to women to keep their babies and to continue to enhance their lives, or, if they choose not to keep their babies, more opportunities and support could be provided to aid in the adoption process, so that so many millions of parents seeking to adopt may take these tiny treasures into their homes and provide them with the love and guidance they so richly deserve!

I hope to see more episodes of the women of The Vent in the future!

William

William2006 on October 24, 2006 at 1:31 AM

Correction,

I the comment above, while addressing the abortion in relation to the term term “murder,” I accidentally stated, “Because abortion is legal it cannot, technically speaking, be termed “abortion.”

I meant to say that “Because abortion is legal it cannot, technically speaking, be termed “murder.”

The last word in the sentence should have read “murder,” rather than “abortion,” as in “technically speaking, abortion cannot be termed murder because abortion is legal in the United States.”

William

William2006 on October 24, 2006 at 1:35 AM

Kristen Powers is the splittin’ image of a young Faye Dunaway c.1967 (Bonnie & Clyde).

jmost558 on October 24, 2006 at 1:07 PM

Kristen Powers is the splittin’ image of a young Faye Dunaway c.1967 (Bonnie & Clyde).

jmost558 on October 24, 2006 at 1:07 PM

No, not quite… sorry… nice try.

http://www.nndb.com/people/884/000022818/

ar_basin on October 27, 2006 at 6:04 PM

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