We will continue to vote republican … until there’s a better option.

Maybe its just me talking out of the side of my neck, but think about it. History does repeat itself. They MSM/Left/Dems are just becoming stronger in voicing the message that we despise and makes us go vote.

So, go out and vote

(I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer so bear with me).

honora on October 20, 2006 at 12:50 PM

However much you’re inclined to disagree with honora, never, ever believe that she’s not sharp.

Heh, honora, how’s this for a compliment from someone who often disagrees with you? Sincerely,

Pelosi’s World…. these are their issues. Where is national security? Where is reference to OUR safety? Where is anything on the war on terror, other than “cutting and running” with our tails between our legs….

while the GOP isn’t perfect, at least it’s not actively hostile toward and intolerant of my faith.

AP
Nicely done, Allah (pbuh).

Uhh, that was written by Bryan in an update. And let me tell ya, nothing gets Bryan more steamed than praise directed to AP that should go to him.

It’s happened a couple of times in the past.

Bryan’s wrath was terrible to behold.

We will speak no more of such things…

Going back a bit in the comments: Ministry to the poor is a part of the expression of Christianity, but it alone it is not the “Christian” part of Christianity. It would then be mere moralism, rather than an expression of the love of God and love for one’s neighbor. The Christian part of Christianity is repentance of sins and faith in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord.

INC on October 20, 2006 at 2:37 PM

I understand that. The point here is that the OFBCI was supposed to leverage and support churches in their efforts to assist the poor and needy–IMO a big part of Christianity. The issue re repentance etc is clearly the underpinning to the Christian group of religions, but is not germane to the initiative, which one would hope would be open to working with all religions. Geez Leweeze.

Yep, from what I can gather.

You’re right, 45 percent of the population does sound high, perhaps the number represents 45 percent of the Christian population. That sounds right. Might just be a case of sloppy reporting.

MRegine,

Here are some stats I was able to dig up from “Public Eye.Org”:

In 2000, 45 percent of the population told Gallop that they were Evangelical Christians. 96 percent of black Evangelicals voted for Gore, only 4 percent for Bush. Bush did did slightly better in 2004 with the black vote.

Some more interesting stats from 2000: Almost half of Evangelical voters were Republican, only 1/4 Democrat. The biggest voting block (among all Evangelicals) in 2000 was the non voters at 52 percent.

Nice Deb on October 20, 2006 at 12:32 PM

I don’t understand this (I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer so bear with me).

In 2000, 52% of Evangelicals did not vote? So of the 48% who voted, about half were Rs and a quarter Ds. Is that right?

And the 45% is of blacks or all polled? That seems very high to me. Thanks for the info.

Here are some stats I was able to dig up from “Public Eye.Org”:

In 2000, 45 percent of the population told Gallop that they were Evangelical Christians. 96 percent of black Evangelicals voted for Gore, only 4 percent for Bush. Bush did did slightly better in 2004 with the black vote.

Some more interesting stats from 2000: Almost half of Evangelical voters were Republican, only 1/4 Democrat. The biggest voting block (among all Evangelicals) in 2000 was the non voters at 52 percent.

I wonder if black christians fall under the evangelical label in this poll. Those I know are very devout and values driven, but historically vote Democrat. Or can it be assumed that when the media refers to evangelicals they are strictly talking about southern or rural white christians?

MRegine on October 20, 2006 at 12:02 PM

Good question. I imagine in the Pew poll, people self identify. In the larger sense, I know when I think of Evangelicals, I think of white people, not necessarily Southern or rural but mainly so. The question on voting patterns is interesting, I know that Bush made a big push with black churches in Ohio in 2004.

But isn’t it common sense that more orthodox Catholics would have more conservative voting patterns?

It would be correct to say that Evangelicals vote Republican by a much larger margin than Catholics, something like 78 percent in the 2004 presidential election.

That’s why it is so important for them to get out and vote in this election. We rely on their votes.

Nice Deb on October 20, 2006 at 11:40 AM

ND: I think you’re right, though in general I think it’s probably a mistake to lump conservative Catholics with Evangelicals.

Yeah, I’m just going to stop here, as your strawmen are starting to irritate.

Slublog on October 20, 2006 at 11:05 AM

And yet….

Actually, I know exactly what the OFBCI does – I didn’t defend them because I don’t agree with their mission or with churches taking government money.

Debating with you has become unpleasant.

Slublog on October 20, 2006 at 11:24 AM

Discipline above all. You folks just can’t help yourselves, cracks me up.

Love ya, babe…you can debate with me any time.

The Washington Post is at it again…talking up GOP doom and gloom. It seems to me from past experience that the drive-by media is almost always behind the curve when it comes to predicting how thing are going to turn……

I really don’t know why you’re pressing this issue. You’re wrong. And by mentioning that Catholics voted for Carter, Clinton, and Gore, you help me make my point that the trend with the Catholic vote is in the more conservative direction. This is partly due to voter education campaigns by groups like “Catholic Answers” that in the last election cycle explained to Catholic voters the 5 non-negotiable issues, Abortion, Euthanasia, Cloning, Homosexual marriage, and embryonic stem cell research, things, that the church teaches are always wrong.

“Well your last claim doesn’t come wth numbers backng them up….”

Ok, fine, here ya go:
Two gallop polls before the 2004 election revealed that Catholic registered voters who attend church weekly (only 1/3 of all Catholic registered voters)supported Bush over Kerry by a 52 to 42 percent margin. Among “Catholic” voters who seldom or never go to church (a group that makes up 38 percent of self described Catholics)Kerry had a large lead of 52 to 42 percent.

But isn’t it common sense that more orthodox Catholics would have more conservative voting patterns?

It would be correct to say that Evangelicals vote Republican by a much larger margin than Catholics, something like 78 percent in the 2004 presidential election.

That’s why it is so important for them to get out and vote in this election. We rely on their votes.

Debating with you has become unpleasant.

Yeah, I’m just going to stop here, as your strawmen are starting to irritate.

Slublog on October 20, 2006 at 11:05 AM

I imagine having your ignorance exposed as to the mission of the OFBCI exposed is pretty irritating as well. Not to mention that it is apparently news to you that Jesus spoke of physical poverty, not just poverty of the spirit.

Social conservatives are the core of the GOP even if some wish to deny it. The GOP had better pay attention to them.

Please educate youselves, and WISE UP. Other than a few social issues, there is no difference between a Demi-rat and a Republi-cat. Ultimately both Parties work for the same puppet masters, and are both taking us to the same place. IE: One World Government. Apart from the rise of a viable third party, this end is inevitable.