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		<title>By: The Balance of Power Returns to U.S. Foreign Policy in the Middle East - Page 6 - Political Forum - US &#38; World Political Discussion Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Balance of Power Returns to U.S. Foreign Policy in the Middle East - Page 6 - Political Forum - US &#38; World Political Discussion Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Originally Posted by donsutherland1   All Muslims? Some Muslims?    Uhm…but what about the following part of my previous posts, you apparently ignored it?  “Nevertheless, just like in the old Soviet Union not all communists were really communists, for obvious reasons many maintained the appearance of being a communist. Likewise in Islam, for obvious reasons many Muslims maintain the appearance of being Muslims. What that percentage relative to the entire ummah is, is anyone’s guess, but the fact that they are forced and cowed into silence, like the silent communists in the old Soviet Union, renders them totally irrelevant for all intents and purposes.”  When I say all Muslims I mean it in the context that all (mainstream) Muslims don’t consider those so-called “moderate Muslims” who are calling for the reform of Islam, as was referenced in Mr. Menahem Milson’s article that you posted, as being “moderate Muslims.” In fact, they don’t consider them to be Muslims at all. Instead, they consider them to be apostates and blasphemers. Why? Because all (mainstream) Muslims believe the Koran to be the direct, divine, and immutable word of Allah and therefore since it’s divine and immutable (unchangeable) it can’t be questioned or changed by mere mortal men.   In fact, it’s also the reason that all (mainstream) Muslims only accept Islamic Sharia Law and reject all other laws. Islamic Sharia Law comes directly from God (Allah). Hence, as such it’s divine, absolutely perfect, and just, whereas all other laws are manmade, imperfect, and thus unjust.   As a matter fact, there is no such distinction in Islam made between “moderate Muslims” and “non-moderate Muslims” (radicals, extremists, fundamentalists, or whatever). If you walk up to a Muslim on a street and ask he or she if they are a “moderate Muslim” or a “radical Muslim” they’ll probably pop out laughing at you.   To a Muslim another Muslim is either a Muslim or a non-Muslim. There is no distinction made for the proverbial and mythical “moderate Muslim.” The notion that there is a distinction made between “moderate Muslims” and “non-moderate Muslims” is a western liberal construct. It just does not exist in Islam. Not only that, but the notion of there being “moderate Muslims” is also highly subjective. For instance, what is a “moderate Muslim” in your eyes, may be a “radical Muslim” in my eyes and vice versa. In other words, it’s an absurdity but a very deeply implanted absurdity!  Indeed, when I first started posting on this site, one of the regular posters on this forum who happens to be a Muslim posted a reply to another poster on this forum to the effect that in Islam there is no such thing as “moderate Muslims.” I subsequently followed up with a post of my own to reinforce and back up her contention.   The poster both replies were directed to is another regular poster on this forum who happens to be a conservative and like you also always insist that a few radicals are hijacking Islam and that the vast overwhelming majority of Muslims in the world are “moderate Muslims.”   Anyway, when that conservative poster eventually responded to both our posts, he was so incensed that he almost took off both our respective heads! Hence, this myth while being very prevalent unfortunately also runs very deep, and it’s all because the President and the media have did a great disservice to all of us in this country by promoting this myth since immediately after 9/11.  Nevertheless, reference the following short video by Robert Spencer where he makes the exact same point that I’m making regarding “moderate Muslim” reformers in Canada. After you watch it, consider if reformers in Canada face that much resistance, how much more resistance they must face abroad inside the house of Islam.  Moderate Muslims   Quote: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CaNN :: We started it.</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaNN :: We started it.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ethelred</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76672</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethelred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>profitsbeard:

You have no argument with me, although I think that your numbers are low.  1 in 10 Indonesian Muslim back violent jihad:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22970&amp;only&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LittleGreenFootballs&lt;/a&gt;

My point is that the &#039;true&#039; Muslims use the masses by continually pointing to those &#039;peaceful&#039; Muslims.

Islam AS A BELIEF SYSTEM must be banned and &lt;em&gt;go-along-to-get-along&lt;/em&gt; Muslims must be met with such hostility that they are forced to face the truth and &lt;strong&gt;leave Islam or leave the West. Period&lt;/strong&gt;

Ethelred</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>profitsbeard:</p>
<p>You have no argument with me, although I think that your numbers are low.  1 in 10 Indonesian Muslim back violent jihad:  <a href="http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=22970&amp;only" rel="nofollow">LittleGreenFootballs</a></p>
<p>My point is that the &#8216;true&#8217; Muslims use the masses by continually pointing to those &#8216;peaceful&#8217; Muslims.</p>
<p>Islam AS A BELIEF SYSTEM must be banned and <em>go-along-to-get-along</em> Muslims must be met with such hostility that they are forced to face the truth and <strong>leave Islam or leave the West. Period</strong></p>
<p>Ethelred</p>
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		<title>By: Le devoir de prĂ©caution &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Il y aurait plus de Musulmans modĂ©rĂ©s si&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le devoir de prĂ©caution &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Il y aurait plus de Musulmans modĂ©rĂ©s si&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Le MinistĂ¨re de la Justice rĂ©pondit en rappelant que des menaces de mort sont un dĂ©lit et doivent ĂŞtre annoncĂ©es Ă  la police. Mais Ă  quoi bon? La prĂ©sidente prĂ©cĂ©dente du MCC a reĂ§u de telles menaces de mort, en jargon musulman, et les a annoncĂ©es Ă  la police. Mais elle a dĂ» aussi quitter son poste sous la menace. En deux mots, l&#8217;intimidation fonctionne et nos lois sont impuissantes. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Le MinistĂ¨re de la Justice rĂ©pondit en rappelant que des menaces de mort sont un dĂ©lit et doivent ĂŞtre annoncĂ©es Ă  la police. Mais Ă  quoi bon? La prĂ©sidente prĂ©cĂ©dente du MCC a reĂ§u de telles menaces de mort, en jargon musulman, et les a annoncĂ©es Ă  la police. Mais elle a dĂ» aussi quitter son poste sous la menace. En deux mots, l&#8217;intimidation fonctionne et nos lois sont impuissantes. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: profitsbeard</title>
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		<dc:creator>profitsbeard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ethelred-&lt;/strong&gt;

The number of potentially militant jihadist members of &lt;em&gt;practicing&lt;/em&gt; Islam (which is probably only 1/2 of all Muslims, who, like most &#039;religious&#039; people, simply  &lt;em&gt;simulate&lt;/em&gt; Mohammedan &#039;motions&#039; -merely from cultural &lt;em&gt;go-along-to-get-along&lt;/em&gt; habit- and are essentially indifferent average human beings mouthing the platitudes of their faith) may be about 5 % of all Muslims.

Five percent of 600,000,000 would be an unpleasant 30,000,000 worldwide.  But they are not united in a mass, and could not &#039;march&#039; anywhere.  

But, since guerrilla warfare (&lt;em&gt;cyber or sniper&lt;/em&gt;) is the modern method of the jihad, they do not need to be &lt;em&gt;in&lt;/em&gt; one country or massed as one literal &#039;army&#039;. 

They attack through &lt;strong&gt;online hacking&lt;/strong&gt;, through &lt;strong&gt;propaganda media-savvy p.r. tricks&lt;/strong&gt;, as in the videos (recently released images of coalition soldiers being shot by terrorist rifles &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt;  cameras) shown by seditious, suicidally-stupid CNN &#039;journalists&#039;, and through photoshopping their war lies to willing tools like Reuters, etc., etc., etc.

The number of that 30,000,000 potential &lt;em&gt;true jihadists &lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;who are active fighters &lt;/strong&gt; is probably no more than 300,000 at one time.  But it only took 19 terrorists to cost us 3,000 dead and a trillion dollars or more in economic damage and new funding responses for increased security.

So, if no WMD&#039;s are used by these hardcore Islamic Imperialists, then hunting down the top 300,000 maniacs may put &lt;em&gt;the fear of God &lt;/em&gt;in the rest of the Muslim Ummah &lt;em&gt;enough&lt;/em&gt; to calm them into some overall sanity.

That&#039;s my hope, at least.  

If a WMD is used by jihadists, then Islam may see millions of their members caught up in the enraged reaction by the West.

&lt;em&gt;For their own sake, it would be best of they scoured these homicidal lunatics from their midst themselves.&lt;/em&gt;

But &lt;strong&gt;true courage&lt;/strong&gt;* among Muslims is as rare than an original thought in Mohammed&#039;s &quot;Koran&quot;.

(*And I do not mean pathetic excuse for &#039;Muslim warrior &lt;em&gt;courage&lt;/em&gt;&#039; as shown by their suicide bombings or sniper attacks or IED&#039;s or packs of zombie-banshee-psychopaths cutting off the heads of bound prisoners as such jihadi scum screech &quot;Allahu Alkbar!&quot; in a display of collective mindless cowardice) 

Whether it is 300,000 &lt;em&gt;-or even 30,000,000-&lt;/em&gt; we must do what it takes for our Civilization to survive this 7th century onslaught of terrorist intolerance and tyrannical nescience.

&lt;strong&gt;If they had our power, we would already all be dead.&lt;/strong&gt;

That&#039;s the difference between us.

We &lt;em&gt;try &lt;/em&gt; to practice decency and restraint.  Even in the face of beheading beasts mesmerized by a pedophile&#039;s vendetta against the natural world.

&lt;em&gt;They have the promise of a Whorehouse Heaven to spur their heartless lunacy.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;We have the hope of a free future to stimulate our Resistence to this dismal madness.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ethelred-</strong></p>
<p>The number of potentially militant jihadist members of <em>practicing</em> Islam (which is probably only 1/2 of all Muslims, who, like most &#8216;religious&#8217; people, simply  <em>simulate</em> Mohammedan &#8216;motions&#8217; -merely from cultural <em>go-along-to-get-along</em> habit- and are essentially indifferent average human beings mouthing the platitudes of their faith) may be about 5 % of all Muslims.</p>
<p>Five percent of 600,000,000 would be an unpleasant 30,000,000 worldwide.  But they are not united in a mass, and could not &#8216;march&#8217; anywhere.  </p>
<p>But, since guerrilla warfare (<em>cyber or sniper</em>) is the modern method of the jihad, they do not need to be <em>in</em> one country or massed as one literal &#8216;army&#8217;. </p>
<p>They attack through <strong>online hacking</strong>, through <strong>propaganda media-savvy p.r. tricks</strong>, as in the videos (recently released images of coalition soldiers being shot by terrorist rifles <em>and</em>  cameras) shown by seditious, suicidally-stupid CNN &#8216;journalists&#8217;, and through photoshopping their war lies to willing tools like Reuters, etc., etc., etc.</p>
<p>The number of that 30,000,000 potential <em>true jihadists </em> <strong>who are active fighters </strong> is probably no more than 300,000 at one time.  But it only took 19 terrorists to cost us 3,000 dead and a trillion dollars or more in economic damage and new funding responses for increased security.</p>
<p>So, if no WMD&#8217;s are used by these hardcore Islamic Imperialists, then hunting down the top 300,000 maniacs may put <em>the fear of God </em>in the rest of the Muslim Ummah <em>enough</em> to calm them into some overall sanity.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my hope, at least.  </p>
<p>If a WMD is used by jihadists, then Islam may see millions of their members caught up in the enraged reaction by the West.</p>
<p><em>For their own sake, it would be best of they scoured these homicidal lunatics from their midst themselves.</em></p>
<p>But <strong>true courage</strong>* among Muslims is as rare than an original thought in Mohammed&#8217;s &#8220;Koran&#8221;.</p>
<p>(*And I do not mean pathetic excuse for &#8216;Muslim warrior <em>courage</em>&#8216; as shown by their suicide bombings or sniper attacks or IED&#8217;s or packs of zombie-banshee-psychopaths cutting off the heads of bound prisoners as such jihadi scum screech &#8220;Allahu Alkbar!&#8221; in a display of collective mindless cowardice) </p>
<p>Whether it is 300,000 <em>-or even 30,000,000-</em> we must do what it takes for our Civilization to survive this 7th century onslaught of terrorist intolerance and tyrannical nescience.</p>
<p><strong>If they had our power, we would already all be dead.</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the difference between us.</p>
<p>We <em>try </em> to practice decency and restraint.  Even in the face of beheading beasts mesmerized by a pedophile&#8217;s vendetta against the natural world.</p>
<p><em>They have the promise of a Whorehouse Heaven to spur their heartless lunacy.</em></p>
<p><strong>We have the hope of a free future to stimulate our Resistence to this dismal madness.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: LissaKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>LissaKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly OT, but I think I will be forgiven ...

I just switched my feed reader from Bloglines to Google Reader. While poking around there, I came across their &quot;feed bundles&quot; ... collections of feeds grouped by type. 

Lookie here: http://tinyurl.com/uk4xa
(that goes to a jpg on my Flickr site)

Congrats gang!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly OT, but I think I will be forgiven &#8230;</p>
<p>I just switched my feed reader from Bloglines to Google Reader. While poking around there, I came across their &#8220;feed bundles&#8221; &#8230; collections of feeds grouped by type. </p>
<p>Lookie here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/uk4xa" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/uk4xa</a><br />
(that goes to a jpg on my Flickr site)</p>
<p>Congrats gang!</p>
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		<title>By: greenpiece</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenpiece</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;m pretty sure this is impossible because Islam is the religion of peace.  Haven&#039;t you guys been reading the news?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m pretty sure this is impossible because Islam is the religion of peace.  Haven&#8217;t you guys been reading the news?</p>
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		<title>By: tdau1997</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 02:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert&#039;s a hero.</description>
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		<title>By: MarkyX</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really sad that this isn&#039;t the big focus in Ontario right now.  Instead we are too busy complaining about our mayor or Stephen Harper&#039;s upcoming bill.

BTW, thanks for opening up the registeration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really sad that this isn&#8217;t the big focus in Ontario right now.  Instead we are too busy complaining about our mayor or Stephen Harper&#8217;s upcoming bill.</p>
<p>BTW, thanks for opening up the registeration.</p>
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		<title>By: Mellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chachieb:

I don&#039;t know if RS has much time to answer emails nowadays (what with his weekly appearances on HotAir ;-), but you could try mailing him asking for info on the Canadian case.
The JihadWatch email address for RS is:
director@jihadwatch.org

PS I seem to recall that the motion to make sharia part of the Canadian legal system failed at the time. I don&#039;t recall any subsequent courtcases or what their outcomes would have been.

PPS Just a thought, but seeing as you&#039;re Canadian, the CCD may have some info for you:
http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/18128.shtml

The CCD President seems to be aware of the islamists and their supremacist ideology.

Alastair Gordon, President
Canadian Coalition for Democracies
Web:  http://CanadianCoalition.com
Email:  admin@CanadianCoalition.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chachieb:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if RS has much time to answer emails nowadays (what with his weekly appearances on HotAir ;-), but you could try mailing him asking for info on the Canadian case.<br />
The JihadWatch email address for RS is:<br />
<a href="mailto:director@jihadwatch.org">director@jihadwatch.org</a></p>
<p>PS I seem to recall that the motion to make sharia part of the Canadian legal system failed at the time. I don&#8217;t recall any subsequent courtcases or what their outcomes would have been.</p>
<p>PPS Just a thought, but seeing as you&#8217;re Canadian, the CCD may have some info for you:<br />
<a href="http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/18128.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/18128.shtml</a></p>
<p>The CCD President seems to be aware of the islamists and their supremacist ideology.</p>
<p>Alastair Gordon, President<br />
Canadian Coalition for Democracies<br />
Web:  <a href="http://CanadianCoalition.com" rel="nofollow">http://CanadianCoalition.com</a><br />
Email:  <a href="mailto:admin@CanadianCoalition.com">admin@CanadianCoalition.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chachieb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chachieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mellow Thanks for the help but all I have found is sad disgusting disheartening news, apparently the professor was a &quot;Dr&quot; and although there isn&#039;t a shred of the lawsuit it&#039;s quite clear he must have won, it&#039;s the same gentleman apparently who said publicly that any jewish male is fair game to attack via terrorism, and is a chum of that Galloway bastard.  I was shocked to find pages asking for support for court cases like that one , I&#039;m sure there are rich billionaire bin laden&#039;s willing to fund all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mellow Thanks for the help but all I have found is sad disgusting disheartening news, apparently the professor was a &#8220;Dr&#8221; and although there isn&#8217;t a shred of the lawsuit it&#8217;s quite clear he must have won, it&#8217;s the same gentleman apparently who said publicly that any jewish male is fair game to attack via terrorism, and is a chum of that Galloway bastard.  I was shocked to find pages asking for support for court cases like that one , I&#8217;m sure there are rich billionaire bin laden&#8217;s willing to fund all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: lovemeImaLiberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>lovemeImaLiberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That&#039;s a lot of hot air for one video. How do they do it?</description>
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		<title>By: storagemanager</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are the Shia fighting in Iraq?....Maybe its because Muhammad told his followers the Mahdi-the Hidden Imam would return after this happens........&lt;blockquote&gt;Before the appearance of the one who will rise, peace be upon him, the people will be reprimanded for their acts of disobedience by a fire that will appear in the sky and a redness that will cover the sky. It will swallow up Baghdad, and will swallow up Kufa. Their blood will be shed and houses destroyed. Death will occur amid their people and a fear will come over the people of Iraq from which they shall have no rest.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;  Ahmadinejad is going to make this happen...
He has said they can bring about the return of the Mahdi....He has said he was chosen for this cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are the Shia fighting in Iraq?&#8230;.Maybe its because Muhammad told his followers the Mahdi-the Hidden Imam would return after this happens&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
<blockquote>Before the appearance of the one who will rise, peace be upon him, the people will be reprimanded for their acts of disobedience by a fire that will appear in the sky and a redness that will cover the sky. It will swallow up Baghdad, and will swallow up Kufa. Their blood will be shed and houses destroyed. Death will occur amid their people and a fear will come over the people of Iraq from which they shall have no rest.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>  Ahmadinejad is going to make this happen&#8230;<br />
He has said they can bring about the return of the Mahdi&#8230;.He has said he was chosen for this cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Mellow</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76145</link>
		<dc:creator>Mellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The just-released documentary &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Islam-examination-Violence-Non-Muslim-World/dp/B000H0UPKI/002-9256016-7743256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Islam: What the West Needs to Know - An examination of Islam, Violence, and the Fate of the Non-Muslim World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; features a strong lineup of interviews with the likes of Walid Shoebat, Bat Ye&#039;or, Robert Spencer and Serge Trifkovic.

The DVD is out and for sale on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Islam-examination-Violence-Non-Muslim-World/dp/B000H0UPKI/002-9256016-7743256&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;.
I received mine a few days after ordering and it&#039;s a very interesting and IMHO important documentary to watch and share with friends and colleagues who are interested in trying to understand what islam and its followers are up to.

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;What the West Needs to Know&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is a more academic piece than the recently released &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obsession&lt;/a&gt;, and is certainly more acurate e.g. it doesn&#039;t make unfounded claims about &quot;vast majorities of muslims being peaceful&quot; and other such often-mouthed platitudes.
It&#039;s also the first filmed documentary, of which I know, that takes an indepth look at islamic history; from the days of its warlord founder mahomed and the first major period of islamic conquest of the middle-east, Northern Africa, Spain and parts of France (ending at the battle of Poitiers), through to the genocide perpetrated against the Hindus (some 60 to 80 million Hindus were murdered by the mohamedan hordes), and the siege of Vienna in 1683.

Get it. It&#039;ll be worth your time to watch it.


PS the official site is:
http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The just-released documentary <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Islam-examination-Violence-Non-Muslim-World/dp/B000H0UPKI/002-9256016-7743256" rel="nofollow">Islam: What the West Needs to Know &#8211; An examination of Islam, Violence, and the Fate of the Non-Muslim World</a></em></strong> features a strong lineup of interviews with the likes of Walid Shoebat, Bat Ye&#8217;or, Robert Spencer and Serge Trifkovic.</p>
<p>The DVD is out and for sale on <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Islam-examination-Violence-Non-Muslim-World/dp/B000H0UPKI/002-9256016-7743256" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a>.<br />
I received mine a few days after ordering and it&#8217;s a very interesting and IMHO important documentary to watch and share with friends and colleagues who are interested in trying to understand what islam and its followers are up to.</p>
<p><strong><em>What the West Needs to Know</em></strong> is a more academic piece than the recently released <a href="http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Obsession</a>, and is certainly more acurate e.g. it doesn&#8217;t make unfounded claims about &#8220;vast majorities of muslims being peaceful&#8221; and other such often-mouthed platitudes.<br />
It&#8217;s also the first filmed documentary, of which I know, that takes an indepth look at islamic history; from the days of its warlord founder mahomed and the first major period of islamic conquest of the middle-east, Northern Africa, Spain and parts of France (ending at the battle of Poitiers), through to the genocide perpetrated against the Hindus (some 60 to 80 million Hindus were murdered by the mohamedan hordes), and the siege of Vienna in 1683.</p>
<p>Get it. It&#8217;ll be worth your time to watch it.</p>
<p>PS the official site is:<br />
<a href="http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatthewestneedstoknow.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chachieb</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76144</link>
		<dc:creator>Chachieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 23:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mellow I&#039;ll check them out for sure!!!

Although I have a feeling I might get a little worked up reading the dhimmi directory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mellow I&#8217;ll check them out for sure!!!</p>
<p>Although I have a feeling I might get a little worked up reading the dhimmi directory.</p>
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		<title>By: Perchant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libs used to use the word &quot;fundamentalist&quot; a lot before 2001, pertaining to certain Christians.  They don&#039;t use the word anymore so that they can avoid using it regarding Muslims.

&quot;Observant&quot; is another good word.  The &quot;Observant Muslim&quot; is the throat cutter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libs used to use the word &#8220;fundamentalist&#8221; a lot before 2001, pertaining to certain Christians.  They don&#8217;t use the word anymore so that they can avoid using it regarding Muslims.</p>
<p>&#8220;Observant&#8221; is another good word.  The &#8220;Observant Muslim&#8221; is the throat cutter.</p>
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		<title>By: Zorro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just registered as well!  Thank you for having me.

Jihad Watch has been a great addition and this one is first class, thanks Robert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just registered as well!  Thank you for having me.</p>
<p>Jihad Watch has been a great addition and this one is first class, thanks Robert.</p>
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		<title>By: Mellow</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76114</link>
		<dc:creator>Mellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chachieb:
If you do a search on the Robert&#039;s JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch sites, you may come up with some useful info on the Canadian case from a couple of years back. I&#039;m pretty sure that JW/DW had some posts on this.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/
(you&#039;ll find the search tools in the left side bar by scrolling down a little ways)

Probably worth searching on LGF as well:
http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chachieb:<br />
If you do a search on the Robert&#8217;s JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch sites, you may come up with some useful info on the Canadian case from a couple of years back. I&#8217;m pretty sure that JW/DW had some posts on this.<br />
<a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/</a><br />
(you&#8217;ll find the search tools in the left side bar by scrolling down a little ways)</p>
<p>Probably worth searching on LGF as well:<br />
<a href="http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tantor</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76111</link>
		<dc:creator>Tantor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I witnessed a demonstration of Muslims in front of the White House during the Lebanese war in August.  It was basically a &lt;a href=&quot;http://conprotantor.blogspot.com/2006/08/marching-for-hezbollah-in-dc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pro-Hezbollah rally&lt;/a&gt; where at least five thousand people marched to literally sing the praises of Hezbollah and castigate America as responsible for the war along with Israel and George Bush and transnational corporations and the US dollar and General Electric.  Muslims came by car, by Metro, by bus from miles around, even other states, to wave the Hezbollah banner while marching a lap around the White House.

A year ago in May 2005, a Muslim lawyer named Kamal Nawash tried to organize a Muslim American &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/12/AR2005051201788_pf.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;March Against Terrorism&lt;/a&gt;&quot; here in Washington, DC.  He was opposed by CAIR and the local mosques.  Nawash said the local imams did not support the demonstration because they shared the terrorists&#039; goal of a Sharia state, though not their violent methods.  Only &lt;a href=&quot;http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20050514-112609-7748r.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fifty&lt;/a&gt; people showed up.

Think about that.  Fifty Muslims show up for a demonstration against Islamic terror.  Five thousand plus show up to demonstrate for an Islamic terror group, Hezbollah.  In other words, Islamic terror gets one hundred times as much support from Muslims in America as efforts to reject it.  One hundred times.

After comparing the turnout for those two events, it&#039;s pretty obvious what is important to Muslims and what is not.  They voted for terror with their feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I witnessed a demonstration of Muslims in front of the White House during the Lebanese war in August.  It was basically a <a href="http://conprotantor.blogspot.com/2006/08/marching-for-hezbollah-in-dc.html" rel="nofollow">pro-Hezbollah rally</a> where at least five thousand people marched to literally sing the praises of Hezbollah and castigate America as responsible for the war along with Israel and George Bush and transnational corporations and the US dollar and General Electric.  Muslims came by car, by Metro, by bus from miles around, even other states, to wave the Hezbollah banner while marching a lap around the White House.</p>
<p>A year ago in May 2005, a Muslim lawyer named Kamal Nawash tried to organize a Muslim American &#8220;<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/12/AR2005051201788_pf.html" rel="nofollow">March Against Terrorism</a>&#8221; here in Washington, DC.  He was opposed by CAIR and the local mosques.  Nawash said the local imams did not support the demonstration because they shared the terrorists&#8217; goal of a Sharia state, though not their violent methods.  Only <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20050514-112609-7748r.htm" rel="nofollow">fifty</a> people showed up.</p>
<p>Think about that.  Fifty Muslims show up for a demonstration against Islamic terror.  Five thousand plus show up to demonstrate for an Islamic terror group, Hezbollah.  In other words, Islamic terror gets one hundred times as much support from Muslims in America as efforts to reject it.  One hundred times.</p>
<p>After comparing the turnout for those two events, it&#8217;s pretty obvious what is important to Muslims and what is not.  They voted for terror with their feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethelred</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76110</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethelred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Larry Elder on TV?

Glenn Beck is on CNN Headline News 7 &amp; 9PM weekdays with repeats weekends.

If he would finally say, &quot;I have been reading up on Islam, rather than just going to a mosque, and have found the most disturbing things that make me come to but one conclusion - Islam is evil,&quot; then millions of people each night would begin to know the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Larry Elder on TV?</p>
<p>Glenn Beck is on CNN Headline News 7 &amp; 9PM weekdays with repeats weekends.</p>
<p>If he would finally say, &#8220;I have been reading up on Islam, rather than just going to a mosque, and have found the most disturbing things that make me come to but one conclusion &#8211; Islam is evil,&#8221; then millions of people each night would begin to know the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: storagemanager</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76101</link>
		<dc:creator>storagemanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethelred...Larry Elder gets it also</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethelred&#8230;Larry Elder gets it also</p>
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		<title>By: Ethelred</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76095</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethelred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>storemanager:

Then I would go with Glenn Beck, who has said some outrageous (for the MSM) things and whom I feel would tell the truth if he were really convinced of it.

E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>storemanager:</p>
<p>Then I would go with Glenn Beck, who has said some outrageous (for the MSM) things and whom I feel would tell the truth if he were really convinced of it.</p>
<p>E</p>
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		<title>By: Chachieb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chachieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok my question was, can anyone help me find out what the heck happenned?  Did the courts side with the prophet of doom as Britain spain and Italy has already?  I thought I was good at researching things but I can&#039;t even find info on the original story I read in the globe and mail newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok my question was, can anyone help me find out what the heck happenned?  Did the courts side with the prophet of doom as Britain spain and Italy has already?  I thought I was good at researching things but I can&#8217;t even find info on the original story I read in the globe and mail newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: storagemanager</title>
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		<dc:creator>storagemanager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethelred...Sean Hannity will never come around.He was invited to the White House and asked by the President himself to lay off Islam.Sean had Walid Shoebat on his T.V. and Radio show and wouldnt let him tell the truth about Islam..He kept saying Islam was hijacked right?...Its being perverted right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethelred&#8230;Sean Hannity will never come around.He was invited to the White House and asked by the President himself to lay off Islam.Sean had Walid Shoebat on his T.V. and Radio show and wouldnt let him tell the truth about Islam..He kept saying Islam was hijacked right?&#8230;Its being perverted right?</p>
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		<title>By: Chachieb</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/19/moderate-muslims/comment-page-1/#comment-76073</link>
		<dc:creator>Chachieb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can someone please help me here?

I remember when the the push for Sharia Law happened in my country of Canada, at first there were reports in the newspapers that there was a lawsuit, I&#039;d like to explain first.

A university professer declared one of them a &quot;blasphemer&quot; I don&#039;t remember if it was the woman or the man.  The lawsuit was against the professor, for at least reckless endangerment. 

Apparently not only does that make assassins hunt you but if she/he ever stepped foot in a muslim country he/she could be jailed or killed on the spot.

Anyways sorry for the blah blah context I was digressing, there is no info on the court case anywhere, google or otherwise.  If anything happened it would set a precedent, and Canada would become the only country where &quot;moderates&quot; could speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can someone please help me here?</p>
<p>I remember when the the push for Sharia Law happened in my country of Canada, at first there were reports in the newspapers that there was a lawsuit, I&#8217;d like to explain first.</p>
<p>A university professer declared one of them a &#8220;blasphemer&#8221; I don&#8217;t remember if it was the woman or the man.  The lawsuit was against the professor, for at least reckless endangerment. </p>
<p>Apparently not only does that make assassins hunt you but if she/he ever stepped foot in a muslim country he/she could be jailed or killed on the spot.</p>
<p>Anyways sorry for the blah blah context I was digressing, there is no info on the court case anywhere, google or otherwise.  If anything happened it would set a precedent, and Canada would become the only country where &#8220;moderates&#8221; could speak.</p>
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