CNN airs video of jihadi sniper shooting American soldier
posted at 12:07 pm on October 19, 2006 by Allahpundit
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E.M. Zanotti ZP on the Bush/Stephanopoulos Tet tete a tete:
The Tet offensive was not any type of military victory for the North, but a propaganda victory bestowed upon them by the press. And that is exactly what al Qaeda wants desperately to achieve. There is no military victory al Qaeda can hope for, only a defeat of American will. Their sole aim in driving up the body count is to wear us down to the point that we’ll just give up. It’s the only way they can win.
The President has been saying this for a while now. And al Qaeda has been saying this for a while now too – heck and they’ve even thanked journalists for helping to enhance the jihad. Yet the press never seems to recall this.
Don’t they? Front page of CNN, right now:

There’s nothing wrong with showing enemy propaganda. We’ve done it here before and we’ll do it again, for the simple reason that it tells you something about the guy in the other trench: his motives, his methods of persuasion, and how far he’s willing to go.
What does this tell us, though? What did CNN hope to accomplish by showing it?
And why will they show snipers when they won’t show beheading videos? Or the Mohammed cartoons?
E.M. has a hunch, I’m sure. As does Blackfive:
Bottom-line: CNN knowingly plays into the hands of the enemy.
There was a news angle here for CNN if they had wanted it. As it is, you’ll have to read Confederate Yankee for that.
It all reminds me of the “controversy” over Ted Koppel reciting the names of fallen soldiers on Nightline. There’s nothing intrinsically objectionable about that either; on the contrary, it’s noble — if the motive is noble, to honor the dead and not hurt morale. Plain and simple, I don’t trust their motives anymore.
On the upside, though, if we do pull out, stuff like this will help CNN earn the good graces of the new regime. Plus ca change…
Update: It’s 12:06 as I write this. They’re re-airing the sniper segment on CNN right now.
Update: The left will defend this for the same reason they post photos of coffins being unloaded at Dover. Ostensibly, it’s because it “puts a human face” on the war, which the wingnuts can’t stomach and scrupulously avoid. Actually, it’s because it does lower morale among waverers and helps them accomplish their political goal of defeat. Enemy propaganda is a many splendored thing.
Update: Also today on CNN…
Update: Whoops — turns out E.M. Zanotti didn’t write that post I quoted. It was ZP of Zero Point, guest-posting for her. My mistake.
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great post georgej. May God bless you and your son!
Travis on October 19, 2006 at 2:52 PM
BigB, Rosie-O, Phil Donahue and others are obviously on the same page. BigB made a point of letting all of us know what the most up to date casualty rate was for the month. The others of his mindset ensure that when they have a public forum,they do the same thing. They feel that if they yell loud enough, present as much doom and gloom as possible; those of us that disagree with them will change our minds. Thank God for the First Amendment. The problem is that they eventually lower themselves via name calling. Referring to someone as a neo-con is not going to persuade them to agree with you. So, let it be known BigB, I have to respect your right to an opinion but I don’t have to respect the content of it. If I contend that I respect your views, I am submitting that you are winning the argument. Ain’t gonna happen. More to come.
To all my Marine brothers and sisters…Semper Fi.
jarhead05 on October 19, 2006 at 2:53 PM
A bit of an update on “The Tet Offensive”
The Tet offensive took place during the holiday known as “Tet”.
It was primarily initiated by the VIET CONG. These were the Native S. Vietnamese “insurgents” we went there to put down.
At the end of Tet, we had lost 15,000 troops.
By our estimates, the Viet Cong had lost 100,000.
By the Viet Cong estimates, they had lost around 300,000.
The Tet offensive ended the Viet Cong as a viable fighting force and a factor in the war. From Tet onwards, the war was pretty much against N. Vietnam.
When the U.S. pulled out, we promised to support the ARVN with logistics and intelligence. The communist-controlled U.S. Congress pulled funding for ARVN support.
The NVA invaded, with two army corps, more troops than the Normandy invasion, and more than 10,000 supply trucks. With 20 rounds of ammunition and 2 handgrenades per man, the ARVN fought heroically, but ultimately fell, as the Confederacy did, due to lack of material.
No U.S. Congressmen were tried for treason. Many continue to betray the American people to this day. Nor were any “newsmen” who reported Tet as a defeat for our side, particularly Walter Cronkite, tried for treason.
This is the lesson of Viet Nam.
Hiraghm on October 19, 2006 at 2:54 PM
BigB forgets the fact that we are an all volunteer force. There are those of us who are willing to fight…and die if needs be to give others the freedom to be as stupid as BigB. He is of the ilk that thinks the people in the WTC brought it on themselves but would be the first to pee him/her self and
begdemand protection in an attack.Suburbandad on October 19, 2006 at 2:57 PM
Care to respond to georgej, BigB?
Nice Deb on October 19, 2006 at 2:57 PM
GeorgeJ, what a bunch of lame bluster! (Nice work on tying 9/11 to Iraq too – fool.)
You, yes you, GeorgeJ, are responsible for putting our troops in harm way, in the snipers’ crosshairs.
You advocated for this war, you voted for its proponents, and you continue to to defend its discredited rationale. Your stench is quite hideous.
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 2:57 PM
Who makes it so that we can’t shoot first, and that our boys
have to try and figure if they will get in trouble for trying
to stay safe.
What really needs to happen, is if we take fire we level the
whole block and not feel bad about it. It’s a war for petes sake!
A few times of this sort of proper response and the insurgency will die down. Then maybe those keeping track of
our death toll won’t have so many to count.
Any of ours is too many, but we have lost very few relative
to the job they are doing.
Gooch on October 19, 2006 at 2:59 PM
Gooch…You are completely on track. Left to their own devices, soldiers could end this in about 30 days. It’s the PC politicians that are getting our boys killed. They and the people like BigB who love freedom as long as it’s free.
Suburbandad on October 19, 2006 at 3:05 PM
georgej, you are the man. Thank you for reminding us all what is actually going on here and what is important. You, sir, are a great American. My prayers will be with you and your son and all of our troops. Godspeed and best wishes to you and all of yours.
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 3:05 PM
I’d LOVE to see footage of OUR snipers droppin’ terrorist bastards, but noooooo…
Tony737 on October 19, 2006 at 3:06 PM
BigG, I imaging you fancy yourself quite clever. AP is the clever one; for in allowing you to continue to post he is giving you quite enough rope to hang yourself with your tired rhetoric. Even if you disagree with georgej, you could at least afford him the respect that anyone deserves, much less one who has so much at stake. Shame on you.
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 3:14 PM
I too am responsible for putting our troops in harms way. I am also responsible for stopping a cruel dictator who killed who knows how many of his own people, and did in fact support terrorist activity against the United States.
While I do grieve over the death toll in Iraq, I know that it is a just cause.
What truly troubles me is the number of people in this country who will walk into the arms of sharia without a fight, given the chance.
aelhues on October 19, 2006 at 3:14 PM
Remember Al-CNN wouldn’t show the Mohammad cartoons but has no problem showing jihadi snuff films of terrorists murdering American soldiers because the think ” we need to know”
A vile nauseating network acting as the Fifth Column in support of terrorism.
Doctorted on October 19, 2006 at 3:15 PM
“Your stench is quite hideous.”
Actually, we were all thinking the same about you.
I’ll point out the obvious…Per the supposed 9/11 connection: He doesn’t mean literally the same folks who flew the planes into the buildings, unless I’m mistaken, those terrorists are now in Hades. He’s speaking in general terms about Islamofascists who have been pouring into Iraq to fight our soldiers. “The same jihadi terrorists” = same jihadi terrorist mindset.
Everybody here knows that Saddam was not the mastermind behind 9/11, although he was a supporter of terrorism.
Try the doltish DU talking points somewhere else.
Nice Deb on October 19, 2006 at 3:16 PM
BigB;
You once again proved my point. Go eat some tofu, maybe smoke a joint and chill out.
georgej;
Amen. Your post was great.
jarhead05 on October 19, 2006 at 3:16 PM
CNN needs to find themselves an island somewhere or, maybe, a planet.
JamesonLewis3rd on October 19, 2006 at 3:18 PM
What’s wrong with tofu? If you deep-fry it and cover it in curry, that stuff is tasty.
Slublog on October 19, 2006 at 3:21 PM
Just more proof we need to get our guys out of there, NOW!
Fatal5433 on October 19, 2006 at 3:26 PM
CNN should be ashamed. Their rights are protected by our armed forces the same as the rest of us, and showing this while embargoing the headchopper vids and mohammed pics is no way to say thanks. They are simply not allies of those we have sent into harms way.
Defense Guy on October 19, 2006 at 3:26 PM
Slublog;
Sorry but the thought of tofu was nausiating enough. Now you want me to put curry on the plate too. Yuk (lol).
jarhead05 on October 19, 2006 at 3:28 PM
Yup, much less offensive than putting a cartoon face on Mohammad.
RightWinged on October 19, 2006 at 3:28 PM
Slublog:
I suppose you got that recipe on the The Food Network?
Nice Deb on October 19, 2006 at 3:29 PM
Could BigB quite possibly mean Big Blind Bonehead? Just an UnChristian thought slipping out of my VERY imperfect mind. Not my best of moments; however people with that holier-than-thou mind-set need to be challenged at every opportunity. People need to wake up: this is a battle for the future whether you like it or not. These people are serious, and it’s high time that we take them seriously.
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 3:32 PM
It’s people like BigB that make me sick!
I have been to Iraq. I have had the unhappy task of putting a little child into a bodybag after an insurgent rocket killed her. A little child that just hours before was playing with her friends and even gave me a hug!
I have also recently learned that an interpretor of mine and his wife were kidnapped and tortured. My interpretor “Sam” was then brutally murdered in front of his wife by those bastards. His wife was released and “Sam’s” body was dumped into the Tigris river.
BigB, who are you to say who has blood on their hands? I and many like me have seen the face of evil. Let me tell you, they aren’t the ones wearing the uniform of the USA.
Why don’t you ask “Sam’s” wife or the parents of the little girl I mentioned who they believe has blood on their hands!
Hacksaw on October 19, 2006 at 3:34 PM
Bb…so since when have you moon-bats started calling Saddam a neo-con? After all we brave soldiers would not be in Iraq if it was not for that dictator refusing to comply with UN Resoulutions.
TrueSoldier on October 19, 2006 at 3:34 PM
Nice Deb…Food Network? Me?
No way. I just say no.
Slublog on October 19, 2006 at 3:35 PM
Hillbillyjim,
Ah yes, keep reading Revelations – the perfect model for our foreign policy!
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 3:36 PM
BigB it would be a better foreign policy than Clintons was. Just take a look at North Koreas Nuke Program to see how much the D’s have failed on foreign policy.
TrueSoldier on October 19, 2006 at 3:38 PM
Hacksaw – soldier or contractor?
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 3:39 PM
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 1:38 PM
BigB,
I know that I have blood on my hands- I’ve served 2 tours in Iraq and am preparing for the third and I expect that my hands will become bloodier before the end of this war. I’ve put my money where my mouth is. Why don’t you let you testicles descend and join me so you can at least speak from a position of knowledge and experience.
Trooper on October 19, 2006 at 3:39 PM
True Soldier,
Bush has been in office for almost 6 years – what has he done to stop North Korea?
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 3:40 PM
Okay, everyone. This has been fun, but maybe it’s time to stop feeding the troll.
Slublog on October 19, 2006 at 3:42 PM
How long do you think AP will keep BigB(onehead) around?
Catie96706 on October 19, 2006 at 3:42 PM
True Slublog, we posted at the same time. If we ignore it maybe it will go away.
Catie96706 on October 19, 2006 at 3:43 PM
How long do you think AP will keep BigB(onehead) around?
Depends on what he thinks of the Beatles.
Slublog on October 19, 2006 at 3:43 PM
I suppose BigB believes that the UN was on the right path in dealing with Mr. Hussein. You know–all those “resolutions” and “sanctions” that the lovely Dictator thumbed his nose at. Let’s not forget the no-fly-zone and the HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of rounds that Iraqi scum discharged at our boys while patroling the skies. And none of those thousands of people that Hussein murdered, raped and maimed count for anything. Nah, who cares about them.
God bless our troops.
robblefarian on October 19, 2006 at 3:43 PM
But it is so easy and fun to watch.
Trooper on October 19, 2006 at 3:44 PM
Who’s AP? and you’re afraid of a little dissent?
“They hate us for our freedom!” yuk yuk yuk…
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 3:44 PM
You’re showing your true colors again BigB….Maybe I’ll pray for you too…..Naahhh, I’m not THAT good of a Christian. I’m glad you’re here–maybe some common sense will rub off on you.
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 3:44 PM
BigB
Clinton was in office for 8 years and he gave NK a light water reactor and the fuel to use it and ask for a promise not to use it for nuke weapons. We all see how well that turned out. Bush brought it to the world’s attention that NK broke that promise and has also gotten China and Russia to agree to sanctions against NK… Sounds to me like Bush has done quite a bit more with better results.
TrueSoldier on October 19, 2006 at 3:45 PM
Amen, georgej! Great post!
donna91 on October 19, 2006 at 3:45 PM
People have more fun than anybody. Thanx everyone (else) hillbillyjim go byebye
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 3:47 PM
By your logic, I am also responsible for putting the people of New York City in harm’s way on 9/11/01. Likewise, I must somehow be responsible for putting the DOD employees in harm’s way in the Pentagon and for that hole in the ground in PA. Doesn’t that follow from your ignorant assertions, BigB? After all, I voted for the President in 2000 as well.
The liberation of Iraq in 2003 is very much tied into the aftermath of 9/11/01. Not that an ignorant troll like you is capable of understanding the connection. But it is true nonetheless.
The plain fact is that the people responsible for our casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan are the people who pulled the triggers, AND THEIR ENABLERS ON THE LEFT LIKE YOU, who prolong the war by giving aid and comfort to the enemy, who justify their acts of terror and violence, who actively sabotag the war, and who cheer the enemy on while gloating at our losses.
By the way, I believe the label for such people is “traitor.”
The Jihadists don’t have to shoot at our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. They choose to do so.
And they didn’t have to blow up the World Trade Center and Pentagon, either. That was also their choice.
But since they started the war by attacking the United States, the responsibility for all the deaths that follow, anywhere in the world, belong on their heads. And on their fellow travelers like you.
georgej on October 19, 2006 at 3:48 PM
It is not the dissent, it is the disrespect.
BlueStateBlues on October 19, 2006 at 3:52 PM
GeorgeJ
First off Godspeed to your son. I’ve been there and wish I could go back (got injured over there,not to bad though,and was put out on disability).
Secondly, Some how I have a feeling that Bb is one of these 9/11 conspiracy theorists who feel that all conservatives are in on the diabalical plot so we can take over the middle east and get their oil.
TrueSoldier on October 19, 2006 at 3:52 PM
People, people.
Please quit feeding the troll. You are doing his work for him. “Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him. Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.” Don’t respond in kind to his unsubstantiated emotional rhetoric, that is just fodder for his tactic. Provide facts that reveal the stupidity of his position.
On 20 September 2001, Presidnet Bush declared that, “Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime.”
That was the correct thing for the President to do then, and it remains correct today. America did not create Islamic terrorism, but it is the only force on earth that can and will stand up against it.
Iraq had been a terrorist enabler for all have Saddam’s nearly four decades of rule, and it was proper that his regime be taken out of the equation. It would be humorous if not tragic that those who currently denounce our Iraq involvement are claiming we should be focusing more on Afghanistan, yet they denounced our decision to act in Afghanistan at the time.
It isn’t about what is wise, correct, or effective with such people. They have nothing else to fire in their magazine but criticism and self-loathing.
If no other nation on earth was willing to fight Hitler, the current conventional wisdom of only going with the full support of the “rest of the world” would mean letting him have all of Europe, and today’s BigB’s would apparently have been alright with that.
Nodoby on the planet loathes war more than those of us who have worn a uniform and fought in them. The relativist hasn’t the capacity to understand that it is possible to do what you must, while wishing it weren’t necessary. The relativist runs from the undesirable, and can’t conceive that responsibility sometimes must, other time ought, to trump personal wishes.
Georgej, consider this a prayer out to your son and his unit. May God place a hedge about all who serve honorably.
Gooch, I agree entirely. Send someone to war with a combatant force that honors no rules of engagement, and then demand the strictest rules of engagement in history? Hey, anyone got Stormin’ Norman Schwarzkopf’s number handy? Seems we have a few leaders that need a fresh lesson in how to win.
Freelancer on October 19, 2006 at 3:52 PM
BigB;
To answer your question about the Bush Administration’s efforts concerning North Korea over the last six years. His position is exactly what those on your side of the argument said he should have done more of when dealing with Iraq.
Iraq: Multi-lateral talks
North Korea: Bi-lateral talks
So, he wants exactly what you and yours demanded on the Iraq situation. Why the turn?
jarhead05 on October 19, 2006 at 3:54 PM
I, too, am a parent of a son currently serving in the U.S. military. When I see our media running snuff films of our sons and daughters it just makes me sick.
My response? Redouble my efforts to support our sons and daughters. To that end, I am the Military Outreach Director of Operation Gratitude (opgratitude.com). Since 2003, our organization has sent out over 150,000 packages of cheer to those defending us overseas. The funny thing is that it is my estimate that probably half of the snacks, candy, games and toys that we send out will be given to the civilians in theatre… Each package contains a letter of greeting from an American to an American serviceperson. We are now in the process of scurrying around trying to round up 50,000 letters for our holiday drive.I keep on keeping on.
To the naysayers on this thread I ask, do you get a little thrill in your private parts by telling me and mine that we have blood on our hands? Does that make your day?
My day is made when I have another blog site promote us, when I gather in a bunch of heart felt letters that will go to our sons and daughters so far from home, when I bring the food to the Navy tailgate and watch the joy in our service personnell as they have a happy evening chowing down on home cooked food and a couple of cans of beer.
I do not lash out at those that have an opposing opinion. I do not storm podiums, throw pies or salad dressing at those with which I disagree. I do not threaten to “put a bullet in their head” as was told to me by a “peace activist” during the RNC in NYC two years ago…I could just as easily say to the opposing side “you have blood on YOUR hands. You actively undermine American sons and daughters.” I do not.
I have written my letter to CNN telling them how they disgust me and, I now move on. I’ve got a big pot of chili to cook for tomorrow night’s tailgate.
What are you doing tomorrow night BigB? Indulging yourself in one way or another, I am sure.
Babs on October 19, 2006 at 3:55 PM
Trooper, father of a trooper here. Ey-Ei-ya!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knock em on their ***!
Limerick on October 19, 2006 at 3:55 PM
Freelancer the statement you made “Iraq had been a terrorist enabler for all have Saddam’s nearly four decades of rule” is so true.
One of the jobs that I had over in IRaq was to guard a compund NE of Baghdad that held Apox 3000 members of a group that CLinton had placed on the terrorist watch list.
TrueSoldier on October 19, 2006 at 3:55 PM
The one who let you in, and the one that can terminate your visit.
Rick on October 19, 2006 at 3:58 PM
Babs. I want to thank you for the packages you and your group and other likewise groups have sent over to the troops. I can tell you from personal experience that those packages really do make a difference. Your son will be in my prays.
TrueSoldier on October 19, 2006 at 3:58 PM
“Babs. I want to thank you for the packages you and your group and other likewise groups have sent over to the troops.”
Ditto.
georgej on October 19, 2006 at 3:59 PM
Limerick
Good to meet you and I widh your son well.
v/r
Trooper on October 19, 2006 at 4:00 PM
Dang- meant wish. sorry.
Trooper on October 19, 2006 at 4:00 PM
Yeah!! Our side has a Babs that we can love!!!
Good work, you are doing Babs. I know our guys appreciate every little thing we can send.
Your work is invaluable.
BlueStateBlues on October 19, 2006 at 4:03 PM
Dead or Alive.
Parents, friends of ALL who try to help and comfort our warriors……..God Bless You!……and to you who don’t I leave you with a good Jewish proverb;
“What you don’t see with your eyes, don’t invent with your mouth!”
See ya……got chores to do.
Limerick on October 19, 2006 at 4:04 PM
Babs,
Isn’t that sad you have to all this? 140,000+ soldiers stuck in Iraq for the holidays, getting shot and blown up over a gigantic mistake… and so many people afraid or embarrassed to admit it?
Keep up the facade, and keep writing to CNN to supress what’s really happening to the troops. If you’re lucky, you’ll be making care packages through 2010.
As for tomorrow night, I’ll probably be burning American flags at a military cemetary (is that what you wanted to hear?)
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 4:06 PM
BTW, CNN’s reporter Michael Ware, who did this story, has reported from inside the insurgency before. He seems to have access. I hope US intelligence is tracking his movements/monitoring his communications so maybe they could get some more of these terrorist bastards.
CP on October 19, 2006 at 4:08 PM
As for tomorrow night, I’ll probably be burning American flags at a military cemetary (is that what you wanted to hear?)
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 4:06 PM
I suspect you are not lying….
georgej on October 19, 2006 at 4:08 PM
Starve it.
Slublog on October 19, 2006 at 4:09 PM
poor li’l'B–on a mission to sow hate and confusion–too bad it doesn’t work for you like you want, O Small One. All you have done here is strengthen our resolve. Merry Christmas, or is that unPC with your crowd?
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 4:10 PM
“CNN’s reporter Michael Ware, who did this story, has reported from inside the insurgency before.”
Not surprising.
CNN, as somebody noted, really is the “Caliphate News Network.”
georgej on October 19, 2006 at 4:11 PM
I will not engage you Bb. I will, however, pity you.
Babs on October 19, 2006 at 4:11 PM
BigB,
What is it about this country that you don’t like? Why do you see us as the bad guy? I don’t get people like you – you take this great country for granted and spit on it every chance you get.
Rick on October 19, 2006 at 4:12 PM
The only answer trolls should get is silence.
Or maybe Durka-Durka! would work too.
batperez on October 19, 2006 at 4:14 PM
Rick, BigB is the kid who wears the FU tshirt to Disneyland, the kid who didn’t get what they wanted, the kid who watches his mom mow the yard, the kid who doesn’t wipe his *** because it will get dirty again. You know THAT kid. We all see him everyday, at the mall, the theater, the grocery store. What we never see is his parents. He is public school ‘group-think’ in the flesh, and America is poorer for it.
Limerick on October 19, 2006 at 4:22 PM
You forgot “the kid who doesn’t walk the old lady across the street!”
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 4:29 PM
How ’bout those Tigers?
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 4:40 PM
What strikes me whenever I see television news coverage of the Iraq/Afghanistan conflict is how predictable it is: the headline is almost always, “Iraq violence,” or “Iraq casualties” or “Iraq bombings,” followed by a casualty count – but only of US military personnel, Iraqi police and/or civilians. Seldom, if ever, is any mention made of enemy casualties.
This is often followed up by footage of US troops engaging an unseen enemy, which is then followed by a snippet from enemy film footage showing them blowing up something or striking defiant poses.
The casual viewer can easily be excused, after a steady diet of such coverage, for concluding the following:
1. Our troops only go to Iraq/Afghanistan to die. Since we almost never hear of their accomplishments, but almost only of their casualties, what other conclusion is there?
2. The enemy is (A) seemingly invincible, as we seldom if ever hear of them taking casualties in return; (B) in high spirits, if the film footage of them boldly and defiantly wreaking havoc and brandishing/shooting their weapons is the only indication we receive; and as a consequence, (C) the enemy is winning.
3. The Iraqi people are an ungrateful lot, who (A) express no support for the efforts of our military in helping to rebuild their infrastructure and institutions, (B) are more interested in killing our soldiers and one another than in creating a civil society, and therefore (C) are unworthy of representative self-government or our continued presence.
Upshot: “It’s a quagmire, and we’re losing – and now, even George Bush ‘admits’ that it’s just like Vietnam!!
The conflict we are engaged in has many facets, and the challenge is to grasp the overall picture without focusing too much on only one angle, and a defeatist one at that. It’s much like the old fable about the blind men trying to describe an elephant, each of them extrapolating the part that he was groping into what he thought the entire creature looked like (e.g., a snake, a tree, a wall, etc.). Imagine what one of them would’ve made of the elephant if he’d stuck his head up its rectum – that’s what our media’s portrayal of the GWOT is like.
In their, “this really stinks!” point of view, never mind the fact that the enemy, by their own admission in captured documents, is taking heavy casualties and is losing both militarily as well as in their efforts to win over the local populations.
Never mind that we’ve made great strides toward setting up legitimate, duly elected representative governments in these places, as well as toward setting up their own military and security forces.
Never mind that the only real similarity to Vietnam is that much of our own media is trying to help the enemy’s cause through slanted and incomplete reporting of what’s happening, and that they’re being aided and abetted by one of our major political parties and the segment of our society it represents – people that want power so desperately that they’re willing – and attempting – to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory because they believe that’s the ticket to their own success.
Spurius Ligustinus on October 19, 2006 at 4:42 PM
now were talkin! My wife’s a Mets fan, but I’m rooting for Detroit!
See, we’re not so different!
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 4:43 PM
Trooper, aren’t you making a rather large assumption regarding BigB’s anatomy?
P.S. Thank you for your service to your country.
thirteen28 on October 19, 2006 at 4:44 PM
Ooo – zinger! ouch
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 4:45 PM
Well, well, BigB, at least we found some “common ground.” Now if we could only get you to exercise some common sense–oh well, I suppose we are diametrically opposed on the important issues, so GO TIGERS. God Bless America and all that goes with it.
hillbillyjim on October 19, 2006 at 4:48 PM
THE COMMIE NEWS NETWORK…haven’t watched them in years and don’t intend to ever watch that network…they are rooting for America’s defeat…
areseaoh on October 19, 2006 at 4:58 PM
What is as interesting to note is the CONTEXT of the video and the coverage of the Iraq War by CNN.
The practical “invincibility” of these “lethal snipers” and emphasizing the “vulnerability” of the Americans whom they are shooting.
Expert witnesses from the American side describing the “effectiveness” of the tactics. Low investment, rich reward kind of stuff.
Then the next video title…Iraq Strategy Failures.
Many of us object to CNN and their apologists because without apology, CNN considers itself a “World Network”. For those of us without those “high ideals”, “simple Americans” we find them too sympathetic to our enemies.
The simple solution, change the channel OR give them a listen to see what the other side thinks.
Am I offended? Absolutely. Am I surprised, sadly no.
CZ52GUY on October 19, 2006 at 5:26 PM
Ted Turner was on the tube the other night bitchin’ up a storm about other channels (FOX) where the journalists wear American flag pins on their lapels. That’s the kind of thing that prompts outrage at the head office at CNN.
But showing videos of our guys getting shot by insurgents? CNN is good to go on that.
You can tell a lot about the Left by what outrages them and what doesn’t.
Tantor on October 19, 2006 at 5:50 PM
CZ52GUY wrote: “Many of us object to CNN and their apologists because without apology, CNN considers itself a “World Network”.”
They’re part of a company incorporated in the United States. If CNN is incapable of being on America’s side while America is at war, then AOL/Time Warner should spin them off, and they can re-incorporate in some foreign country and move they HQ there as well.
georgej on October 19, 2006 at 5:58 PM
I wouldn’t miss them. What’s so terribly sad is that so many within this country are either ignorant or complicit, mindlessly listening to the CNN propaganda machine night after night, visiting their web site regularly…taking in their daily dose of kool-aid.
CZ52GUY on October 19, 2006 at 6:03 PM
Why didn’t they show the Danish cartoons?
KRK on October 19, 2006 at 6:40 PM
If you think CNN gives aid and comfort to the enemy, CNN International makes regular CNN look like FOX. And the BBC is worse.
ReubenJCogburn on October 19, 2006 at 6:47 PM
CNN is running scared. They’re trying to cover all bases; from Glen Beck to Lou Dobbs, to Paula Zahn. A little for everybody. Our only hope is that capiltalism overrides idiocy, appeasement and USA-bashing.
aqvik on October 19, 2006 at 6:49 PM
I agree with mymanpotsandpans, this is fifth column type activity. Does CNN know the name of the soldier? Do they care?? Their hearts must be as cold as ice.
Zorro on October 19, 2006 at 6:58 PM
This is pretty pathetic even for CNN !
T.H.E. Rock on October 19, 2006 at 7:09 PM
Can you imagine WWII covered by today’s media? There is no doubt we would have lost if WWII was covered by today’s media.
Kasserine Pass, 1942, North Africa – the first time we ever faced the Germans, we lost 1,500 soldiers. Can you imagine today’s media reaction to that?
D-Day, 1944, we lost 4,900 soldiers in the first day. The FIRST DAY. Can you even imagine CNN’s coverage of that?
USAFMXOfficer on October 19, 2006 at 7:22 PM
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Sickening. On the other side, and proud of it.
htom on October 19, 2006 at 7:23 PM
USAFMXOfficer,
My dad was on Guadalcanal, 1st Marines, they unloaded a crate from a support ship. Inside were Cavalry sabres. They got a kick out of it. CNN headline would be “President Fails to Property Equip Troops”
Limerick on October 19, 2006 at 7:44 PM
Let’s not forget 1,000s of soldiers dead in training exercises for D-Day, or the Bataan march…
How would that be covered???
Also, there are more troops that die every year from driving accidents, than troops dead in Iraq!!!
Should we forfeit the troops from using POVs (some military lingo there) [Personally Owned Vehicles]???
Every single Friday during my AIT in Ft. Gordon, before being dismissed for the weekend, we would receive the same lecture: “Don’t drink and drive.” Maybe we can order our troops not to drink at all?
batperez on October 19, 2006 at 7:54 PM
KRK,
I agree with you. I submitted a comment to the CNN site earlier today asking why this video qualifies as the “…need to show the unvarnished truth” when showing the Danish cartoons did not.
Not surprisingly, the comment was not posted. Hypocrisy, anyone?
Medea on October 19, 2006 at 7:55 PM
Yeah Medea. I told them they earned a place on my V-Chip.
Blocked. Don’t suppose they posted that either.
Limerick on October 19, 2006 at 7:57 PM
CNN is losing the war for us!
GW has peace in his heart!
All the military might in the world and we’re defeated by our own television networks! Just like ‘nam!
Uh…wrong. We are fighting a battle we shouldn’t be fighting, creating enemies instead of defeating them, with a president who’s afraid of dissent, while we are fed whatever will keep us watching by a complacent conservative news media. We call the media liberal to prevent it from going further to the side of liberal interests. And look at Vietnam now!
Can someone post another MM bathing suit photo?
lovemeImaLiberal on October 19, 2006 at 8:05 PM
I fear your stay here shall be short, lmial.
Allahpundit on October 19, 2006 at 8:06 PM
Go get ‘em Loveme…
but I’m surprised they haven’t starting piling on the NY Times too!
Book burning is just a few days away for most of this crowd.
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 8:17 PM
CNN like the majority of the media show what sells. Regardless of the consequences most people are self absorbed and do what is best for them The koolaiders listen and fall in line. I will take Dennis Miller approach to this….”even if I did disagree with the war, (I dont) I would keep my mouth shut while soldiers are in harms way. These far left liberals can pacify themselves with this notion that dissent is patriotic but ultimately they are responsible for a large portion of the determination of the animals we fight. Period.
dartagnan on October 19, 2006 at 8:35 PM
Dartagnan,
Let me get this straight – had liberals not dissented, Iraq would be pacified?
Wow – that’s great! I’ll spread the news!
BigB on October 19, 2006 at 8:56 PM
Looks like we have an American Al Jazeera network. I bet after Ted Turner saw this clip he had to “do some research” to figure out which side he was on.
V15J on October 19, 2006 at 9:21 PM
Next they will have Larry King interview the sniper and ask something intelligent like – “did you ever plan a sex change operation?” What more can we expect from the Clinton News Network.
iam7545 on October 19, 2006 at 9:46 PM
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