(h/t Drudge) This may be nothing as we’ve seen a handful of these reports almost since the moment of the first test, but I thought it was worth mentioning: The United States has detected fresh signs that North Korea may……

No I am saying that we have no proof that these guys have a nuclear weapon. And operating on erroneous assumptions is an oh, what’s the word? umm, dumb, thing to do.

honora on October 16, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Update: Just across on Fox: John Negroponte’s office says analysis of air samples in North Korea confirm that it was indeed a nuclear test.

Honora, you may want to check the updates.

North Korea also has the second largest submarine fleet in Asia. They don’t need missiles or even cargo containers to get a nuke here. They can literally drive it over here completely undetected, detonate it off a coastal city OR sail it up a river and detonate it INLAND. Wake up people!

On a completely unrelated note, thank god Brownback (R) opened his mouth and showed America his true colors and that he is completely unfit. Yeah lets take all the North Korean refuegees, cause we handled all the Mexican ones so well. IDIOT.

So you’re saying let them have the nuke because it can’t reach us? Consider this; if it took them 8 years to develope a nuke (which is the most sophisticated part of the equation), how many years will it take them to develope a delivery method? Two years? Four years?

Dumb.

Why do they even need a sophisticated delivery method? It’s just as easy to walk it across the border. Who knows? Perhaps send it by shipping container on a sea vessel? We already know that approximately 10% of the containers are searched by U.S. Customs. That’s a 10% chance that we’ll catch it.

Yeah, that’s a great idea to just let them have the nuke

No I am saying that we have no proof that these guys have a nuclear weapon. And operating on erroneous assumptions is an oh, what’s the word? umm, dumb, thing to do.

willing to sacrifice Dallas? (probably) but what about (leftist bastions) San Francisco or LA, the more likely targets anyway? It is simply a fact that we ARE the prime movers. Without us US, there would be no honest brokers; and the world would have already melted down into massive, globe-spanning, nuclear holocost with no voice for the rule of law (my cause) or any of the causes you (no doubt) embrace/espouse.

Why don’t you take your causes and leave me to mine. Deal?

World diplomats push for enforcing N.Korea sanctions: The United States insisted on Sunday that China had an obligation to help enforce new U.N. sanctions on North Korea for its claimed nuclear test, despite Beijing’s misgivings over the risk of provo…

Nineteen Saudis + Four Passenger Jets

Both are still in stock, no?

how about actually learning from the incompetence and previous mistakes

the reason we can’t is that the logical conclusion is that the only way to effectively deal with this is to invade and go house-to-house, tunnel-to-tunnel, etc. That would be too bloody a process for most Americans to accept unless and until cities start getting vaporized.

(There is such a thing as common sense–a country that can’t get a handle on transportation or energy or food or manufacturing–where is the talent and infrastructure to build a serious nuclear weapons program?)

It’s where Kim Jong Il decides it is. He has already demonstrated the willingness to let millions starve in order to supply his military, just like Stalin did. He has no compunction about funding programs to develop nukes and delivery systems while the rest of the country goes without roads or even food.

the Chinese and the S Koreans have the most at stake here, why do we always think we are the prime movers ?

yes they do–well, SoKo does, not so much China–but are you willing to sacrifice Dallas? (probably) but what about (leftist bastions) San Francisco or LA, the more likely targets anyway? It is simply a fact that we ARE the prime movers. Without us US, there would be no honest brokers; and the world would have already melted down into massive, globe-spanning, nuclear holocost with no voice for the rule of law (my cause) or any of the causes you (no doubt) embrace/espouse.

…let’s take a look at Iran.

And pray tell, how do you expect to deal with Iran, if you can’t deal with NoKo?

Beyond that, consider for a moment this is another Iraq-like situation of mass hysteria. Do we know that the NK have weapons they can deliver against us or our allies? No. (There is such a thing as common sense–a country that can’t get a handle on transportation or energy or food or manufacturing–where is the talent and infrastructure to build a serious nuclear weapons program?)

So you’re saying let them have the nuke because it can’t reach us? Consider this; if it took them 8 years to develope a nuke (which is the most sophisticated part of the equation), how many years will it take them to develope a delivery method? Two years? Four years?

Dumb.

Why do they even need a sophisticated delivery method? It’s just as easy to walk it across the border. Who knows? Perhaps send it by shipping container on a sea vessel? We already know that approximately 10% of the containers are searched by U.S. Customs. That’s a 10% chance that we’ll catch it.

Yeah, that’s a great idea to just let them have the nuke.

If South Korea is unwilling to back us on sanctions, then perhaps we should stop buying Hyundai, Samsung, LG, and Kia.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82755

It’s a photo travelog of a Russian, with translations.

How many of our Treasury notes does China have?

SouthernGent on October 16, 2006 at 11:34 AM

Can’t count that high. Ignorance is bliss, ain’t it?

China has been building a massive barbed wire and concrete fence along parts of its border with North Korea in the most visible sign of Beijing’s strained ties with its once-cozy communist neighbor…

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/16/D8KPNT380.html

Beyond that, consider for a moment this is another Iraq-like situation of mass hysteria. Do we know that the NK have weapons they can deliver against us or our allies? No. (There is such a thing as common sense–a country that can’t get a handle on transportation or energy or food or manufacturing–where is the talent and infrastructure to build a serious nuclear weapons program?) Let’s not get caught up again in fire, ready, aim. Call me stupid, but it seems to me that the Chinese and the S Koreans have the most at stake here, why do we always think we are the prime movers ?

Now you want to talk about a serious country with serious resources that is a serious threat–let’s take a look at Iran.

I am glad Japan and Australia are separately imposing harsher measures than what is specified in the UN’s resolution, and can only hope more countries follow suit. The UN showed a united front in a 15-0 vote, but China, South Korea and Russia must now…

As Andrew Sullivan points out, in the West we have a tendency to laugh at Kim Jung-Il ……

Now THAT I agree with.

Everything that is being done now has already been tried. Instead of everyone pointing out the failures of Clinton; how about actually learning from the incompetence and previous mistakes. What a silly thought, I know. Why do that when we can all revel in the depravity of personal politics and point fingers while NoKo grows stronger and stronger.

Anyone care to compare how many countries that have tested nukes that now have “the bomb”, to those that tested and simply gave up? Anyone?

Is anyone else besides me hearing talk of how important it is to stop Iran now because we can just count on NoKo as a nuclear power? Frightening.

People just don’t want to make the sacrifices necessary now but my God the sacrifices that will have to be made later…

Abby, they don’t care because it won’t be them just their children and grandchildren….