Battlestar Galactica open thread
posted at 10:04 pm on October 13, 2006 by Bryan
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What did you think about the show?
We all knew Roslyn would live; the only question was how. Nice touch putting Callie in the line of fire when the premiere gave the impression that once she was on the run she was safe.
The way to deal with skin-jobs: Don’t kill them, just wound them. Or mess with their heads.
What will Tigh do with Ellen now?
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“What will Tigh do with Ellen now?”
They’ve had their marriage problems before, but this one really takes the cake, eh?
I have a feeling that he will end up trying to use her to feed bad info to the cylons… but I’m not sure how well sparing her life would go over with the others. Someone else might attempt to kill her anyway.
Watcher on October 13, 2006 at 10:16 PM
I fully expect you to open a Grey’s Anatomy thread now. :) Thursdays – 9:00 central. we can comment as the show progresses.
pullingmyhairout on October 13, 2006 at 10:19 PM
That’s not gonna happen. I haven’t watched Grey’s Anatomy. It’s one of those shows that for whatever reason doesn’t appeal to me at all. The only doctor show I’ve ever liked is Scrubs.
Seriously. Well, and MASH.
Bryan on October 13, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Grey’s Anatomy? Replace “Dr. McDreamy” with Cylon #6, and I might be willing to give it a chance.
Watcher on October 13, 2006 at 10:27 PM
I thought it was interesting when the Dean Stockwell cylon noted that each time they get killed and re-downloaded the pain increases. And it’s just a matter of time before the “good” Sharon cylon discovers that her baby is alive. I wonder if she will turn on Adama and the humans….
WillT on October 13, 2006 at 10:28 PM
Someone on NRO said Tricia Helfer looked terrible this season; she looked pretty damn good to me !!
WillT on October 13, 2006 at 10:30 PM
BSG is the bestest show EVER! Good grief, when did I become a geek?
ihavewebfeet on October 13, 2006 at 10:30 PM
The only doctor currently worth watching is The Doctor.
The skin jobs are too happy to commit suicide, so scratch that idea. Destroying their replacement skin job factories is the only way to be sure they will stay dead.
Tigh is incapable of killing his wife, so either she remains locked up, or someone else offs her.
Sci-Fi, and politics all in 1 blog. I am in heaven.
DannoJyd on October 13, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Dorks, or not? Discuss…
RightWinged on October 13, 2006 at 10:34 PM
Not. Most of the time.
Bryan on October 13, 2006 at 10:36 PM
It was intimated in the episode, and in the episode Scar, that rebirth is getting harder and harder for the Cylons. It will be interesting to see if it gets to where rebirth is actually worse than death.
Oh, and ‘Get your fat ass out of my office’ is still the best line of the third season.
JasonG on October 13, 2006 at 10:37 PM
RightWinged, go find a copy of Expanded Universe. It was written by Robert A. Heinlein, and has political discourse relevant to today.
He was definitely not a dork.
DannoJyd on October 13, 2006 at 10:42 PM
What did you think about the show?
I made it all they way through this episode. First time I’ve made it through an entire BG episode.
We all knew Roslyn would live; the only question was how.
Did we? I guess we would expect this since she is a key player.
Nice touch putting Callie in the line of fire when the premiere gave the impression that once she was on the run she was safe.
Maybe. It almost worked, but was kind of cheesy.
The way to deal with skin-jobs: Don’t kill them, just wound them. Or mess with their heads.
Reflecting their weaknesses. The skin-jobs are not omnipotent after all.
What will Tigh do with Ellen now?
Tigh will keep her alive. Ellen will continue to be a thorn in his side. Baltar will remain alive also, so he can remain a thorn. Key players like these two can’t be killed off.
Lawrence on October 13, 2006 at 11:01 PM
I was just happy there were no cutesy Iraq references this episode.
frankj on October 13, 2006 at 11:08 PM
Dorks, or not? Discuss…HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
The Ugly American on October 13, 2006 at 11:09 PM
Ooops…..hit strike instead of quote.
Oh well…..LOL
The Ugly American on October 13, 2006 at 11:10 PM
God, I wish I still had my cable. Now I have to wait several days to download it from ITunes.
marianpaul on October 13, 2006 at 11:39 PM
By the way, I was only joking with you guys about the “dork”. Well, I was serious, but in a lighthearted way. I completely understand getting hooked on these type of shows, I just haven’t. Anyway, tell me these guys aren’t your arch enemies. (By the way, that’s one of the funniest videos you’ll ever see, watch the whole thing)
RightWinged on October 13, 2006 at 11:57 PM
Much better than the season opener. It will be interesting to see who gets rescued and who gets left behind.
mesablue on October 14, 2006 at 1:08 AM
I am still torn over grace park or trisha hefler. I think right now grace park is the future ex-mrs chow.
chow on October 14, 2006 at 1:31 AM
What’s up with the Cylons saying that their resources are stretched too thin to deal with the Human insurgency? Are their industrial replicators offline?
The episode in two weeks is titled “Collaborators.” Things should get interesting then.
rw on October 14, 2006 at 2:27 AM
This show continues to impress. I like the fact that people’s lives change, unlike the various Star Trek series’ that seemed set in amber from the 1st episode.
PeteRR on October 14, 2006 at 3:14 AM
I’m gonna have to Netflix this one. Everyone I know keeps talking about it…
venmax on October 14, 2006 at 3:57 AM
Well, we’ve already heard that Galactica is the “B” story this season…so that makes me wonder how this evacuation is going to make out.
The thing I don’t understand is a) where the cylon-factory is. and B) why they haven’t blown it up yet.
I don’t remember seeing the ship orbiting the planet… and their basestars have never had that ablility.
Still, nice to get through an episode without any dang politics getting in the way.
Spassvogel on October 14, 2006 at 4:48 AM
My girlfriend (Arya on Hannity and IFF) watch this show “religiously”. I am thouroghly addicted to it, and no, I don’t think it’s bashing U.S. involvement in Iraq.
Ellen Tigh would be eating a bullet in the real world. This is about survival.
Starbuck is scaring the crap out of me. Is it Stockholme Syndrome?
How do the skinjobs get distinct personalities? Why is there “good” Cylons and “bad” Cylons. Wouldn’t they program safeguards? Or is it part of the “Free Will” from their God?
I dislike Helo on many levels.
Edward James may have crappy politics, but he is the perfect Adama for this type of Show, just like Lorne Greene was perfect for the last one.
Nice to see Xena still has a good rack.
Mortis on October 14, 2006 at 8:48 AM
No, this is my arch enemy.
Number 2 on October 14, 2006 at 9:02 AM
Because as we all know Vermont was the birthplace of cool
JasonG on October 14, 2006 at 9:22 AM
Am I the only one that is really starting to dig the character of Anders this season? I know Tigh is the ostensible leader of the resistance, but I get the feeling that without Anders and his experience on Caprica, the New Caprica resistance would be in serious disarray.
Oh, and Tigh definitely won’t kill Ellen. As much as she constantly hurts him, he loves her. My guess is she survives to make it back to the fleet, and is hanged as a collaborator.
mhexel on October 14, 2006 at 11:57 AM
Hey, I didn’t say there aren’t dorks here… just not me. I’ve got friends obsessed with Warcraft who are fully aware that they’re dorks, and I make sure to remind them every chance I get. But you’re right, VT isn’t the birthplace of cool. It’s the birthplace of hippies, gays, and spoiled college kids (who often like to appear as dirty hippies while driving around brand new Audis and Range Rovers)
RightWinged on October 14, 2006 at 12:09 PM
Let’s not forget when the Rising Star patrons were taken hostage, Ellen chose to rush out from the restroom straight to the terrorists. Then she revealed she was the XO’s wife which immediately made her the first choice to be killed if demands were not met.
allie on October 14, 2006 at 1:05 PM
OK, I give, what time, day and where (channel) is this BG show on?
shooter on October 14, 2006 at 1:43 PM
I’m gonna have to Netflix this one. Everyone I know keeps talking about it…
Plan on staying in for a few days, once you start — you won’t be able to stop. I missed the first season and rented the DVD’s. I stayed up way too late for a few days watching.
mesablue on October 14, 2006 at 1:45 PM
There was one shot in this episode where she looked MUCH older than she usually does. I think it was just terrible lighting.
Benaiah on October 14, 2006 at 1:56 PM
It was mentioned in one of the last two episodes that this particular bunch of Cylons are a small group that came to find the humans for the idea of trying to “live together”. It is presumed that they are NOT being supported by the entire Cylon race, but are experimenting as a separate group.
Warner Todd Huston on October 14, 2006 at 2:12 PM
The big question is – is the Resurrection ship on or in the orbit of New Caprica (especially given the turnaround time of Starbuck’s spouse)? If so – will the Galactica spot it and destroy it?
Niko on October 14, 2006 at 2:46 PM
Where was Spock on this last episode?
RightWinged on October 14, 2006 at 5:42 PM
I would imagine that the Ressurection ship is on the ground. By the way, on Scar, rebirth was kinda hard because they didn’t have a ressurection ship close enough to download to, though that seems a little wierd considering that machines would probably decide that redundancy with that sort of thing is the way to go.
‘I wonder if she will turn on Adama and the humans’
That reminds me of the good old days on Caprica and the return to Galactica when you just knew that Sharon was going to betray them all, just like the other one did, but you just didn’t know when. I hope Sharon finds out about her baby soon, so she can go back to being the character of ambigious loyalties.
Also, just so we’re clear, Lucy Lawless is #3 (the Aussie), right?
I’m not quite ready to let this one go, but it’s looking like it might be about time. Every since she was introduced on Season One(?), I knew, I just knew Ellen Tigh was a Cylon. Perhaps I was wrong, maybe she’s just an idiot.
I hope Starbuck gets rescued soon, because she’s far too cool to spend the whole season stuck in that prison.
This stream of consciousness post has led to the part where I must ask about #6. During the course of the show, there have been three #6’s that were important. The first of course, is #6 in Baltar’s head. Whatever happened to her, and was she actually real, or was she Baltar’s failing attempts to stave off insanity? The fact that Caprica has a Baltar in her head implies that there was something ‘real’ about the both of them. Obviously, Caprica is the next important #6, she is the one that caused the ceasefire in season two and started the occupation at the end of season 2. The last #6 is the one Baltar saved from the crew of the Pegasus. #6 in Baltar’s head dissapeared shortly after she came on the scene so that’s a little wierd. Anyway, whatever happened to her, is she dead? Did she ever make use of that nuke Baltar gave her? Sorry if any of that was confusing.
Finally, I have a question, a poll, if you will. #6 once told Baltar (I think on the pilot) that there were eleven models of skin jobs. Judging by past history, most models have at least one version integrated in human society, either as subversives or sleepers. Given that I think only six of the models have been revealed, who do you think are the other five?
Wolfman on October 14, 2006 at 6:55 PM
The Pegasus #6 detonated the nuke and took out the Cloud Nine and a few other ships in the season finale.
There’s a Battlestar wiki that seems pretty detailed.
rw on October 14, 2006 at 7:14 PM
Wolfman … GIMME YOUR LUNCH MONEY!
Just kiddin’. Yeah, it’s a cool show, but I used to watch the old version when I was a kid, so this one bugs me in some ways. For example, not only is Boomer no longer a guy, he’s a chick, and a smokin’ HOT chick at that, so that’s cool, except she’s not really a chick, she’s a machine, she’s a cylon, but not really, but she is, kind of, but she doesn’t know it so she isn’t really, well no she is, but she can make babies with human males and she can die, but she can’t really die, but she can. I think.
I guess is I watched the whole thing I just might get it, but then I’d never have sex again.
Tony737 on October 14, 2006 at 7:24 PM
I’ve been a life-long SF fan. I’ve done about 170 anthologies in the field and Marty Greenberg, my friend and co-editor, helped found the SciFi Channel.
That said, I’m not sure hotair should be posting non-political stuff.
But if you like Battlestar Galactica you might consider checking out Interstellar Empires (1983), Space Wars (1988) and Space Dreadnoughts (1990).
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on October 14, 2006 at 9:16 PM
So would Marty be the person to ask for the reason there is ‘wrasslin’ on the SciFi channel?!
allie on October 14, 2006 at 9:23 PM
Alright, what is all this ’skin jobs’ lingo? Don’t you guys remember what that meant in Blade Runner? It’s gutter slang. It’s not nice. If you’re going to use geek lingo, you better know what you’re using. And don’t try slipping it in there in Klingon, either. I pioneered that trick.
austinnelly on October 14, 2006 at 10:54 PM
The “6″ inside Baltar’s head was the one who convinced him to sign the execution orders. The 6 who was the one who had the relationship with him on Caprica was the one he was in bed with at the beginning of the latest episode. She downloaded and then killed Xena in the episode that was Cyhlon Centered from last season.
The Pegasus one…well, someone already posted.
Spassvogel on October 14, 2006 at 10:56 PM
Interesting Blade Runner was mentioned because Edward had the role as the origami folding officer. So is the “skin job” label a creative input from him?
allie on October 15, 2006 at 1:45 AM
This just popped into my head, so I figured I would ask. Is there any real-life counterpart to the prayer that was said in the hangar deck with the line of salt? Obviously prayer is going to be a rather significant part of any military service, but is there a specific one that is said before going off to battle?
mhexel on October 15, 2006 at 3:59 AM
Sorry, I don’t think Ellen is a Cylon, but she is a person who will commit any treason or felony to get what her short-sighted mind wants at the moment. I don’t think the Colonel will punish her–she has him wrapped around her finger. I wonder what will be her fate by the end of this season, though.
urbancenturion on October 15, 2006 at 4:26 AM
As to the ’skin job’ lingo, if I remember right, the term was first used by Anders when he led the resistance on Caprica. Since there’s not a better, more succinct way to describe them, so it stuck.
Wolfman on October 15, 2006 at 7:38 AM
A point from the season’s opener.
Successful resistances in history did not use suicide bombers. Many people don’t understand that suicide bombers are proof of a failing and doomed guerrilla/insurgency, despite what the leftwing media says about the Palestinian and Iraqi suicide bombers as they go about glorifying it.
The Kamikaze, for example, did NOT prevent the fall of the Japanese Empire. In fact, it became a reason to use the atom bomb, twice, on Japan in lieu of invading the home islands.
Palestinian suicide bombers have not caused the Israelis to back down one inch, nor will they. And despite the media splash in Iraq, it hasn’t moved one US soldier one inch closer to leaving. Psychologically, suicide bombers stiffen the resolve of their targets who instead of kowtowing, become filled with rage over the innocents who are targeted and killed.
This latter effect, BTW, is evidenced by the Cylon order to execute 200 people and to consider using nukes to “lower the population of humans to a manageable level.”
Clearly, the resistance on Newe Caprica knew that Galactica and Pegasus were out there, they knew that there would be a Raptor acting as a listening post and link to the fleet. In such circumstances, one would expect the resistance to conserve fighters, not waste them. After all, they have less than 38,000 (I think that was the number on planet at end of season 2) humans on the planet.
I would expect a resistance on either the WWII French or post war Algerian model. I would not expect one based upon the Palestinian one.
I love the show!
georgej on October 15, 2006 at 4:04 PM
HEY!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m in South America…we haven’t gotten to the end of the series yet!!!!
Blaise on October 15, 2006 at 5:47 PM
2 words: Kick azz for this latest episode. Can’t wait till next week.
William Teach on October 15, 2006 at 7:23 PM
Damn, Allie, you’re right. It’s been too damn long since I watched Blade Runner; I forgot E J Olmos was the origami dude; I was trying to remember the actor who played Harrison Ford’s captain that coined the ’skin jobs’ term. Eek. My movie kung fu is slipping…
austinnelly on October 15, 2006 at 8:23 PM
Austinnelly, Captain Bryant was played by M Emmet Walsh.
allie on October 16, 2006 at 11:47 AM
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