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	<title>Comments on: Lancet: 600,000 killed by violence in Iraq since U.S. invaded; Update: Iraqis claim report is exaggerated</title>
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		<title>By: porn</title>
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		<dc:creator>porn</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;porn...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: William K. Wolfrum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lancet study shows millions would die in Flu epidemic, Conservative thinkers scoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>William K. Wolfrum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Lancet study shows millions would die in Flu epidemic, Conservative thinkers scoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Based on momentary, factless research, Conservative estimates place the potential death toll of a global flu pandemic at &#8220;like 80 or so.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Based on momentary, factless research, Conservative estimates place the potential death toll of a global flu pandemic at &#8220;like 80 or so.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fear Bush</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fear Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 03:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;655,000?...&lt;/strong&gt;

 The MSM the blogosphere , and Bush himself have been trying to make sense of (and come to grips with) the report that was released recently putting the number of Iraqi civillians killed in Iraq since the US-led invasion......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>655,000?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p> The MSM the blogosphere , and Bush himself have been trying to make sense of (and come to grips with) the report that was released recently putting the number of Iraqi civillians killed in Iraq since the US-led invasion&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: My Own Thoughts &#187; 600,000 is so wrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Own Thoughts &#187; 600,000 is so wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 01:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allah at Hot Air says the Iraqis claim it is exaggerated and that the pre-invasion deaths per 1000 that the study used is too low. I would certainly expect it to be higher with Saddam in charge than other countries&#8217; death rate. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Allah at Hot Air says the Iraqis claim it is exaggerated and that the pre-invasion deaths per 1000 that the study used is too low. I would certainly expect it to be higher with Saddam in charge than other countries&#8217; death rate. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rain falls on everyone :: new and improved &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraq Body Count?</title>
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		<dc:creator>rain falls on everyone :: new and improved &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iraq Body Count?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 655,000?  Come on.  I can&#8217;t believe it.  Even Iraq Body Count puts the number at about 50,000.   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 655,000?  Come on.  I can&#8217;t believe it.  Even Iraq Body Count puts the number at about 50,000.   [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why statistics are dangerous in the hands of the Stupid &#171; Nothing</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/11/lancet-600000-killed-by-violence-in-iraq-since-us-invaded/comment-page-1/#comment-70908</link>
		<dc:creator>Why statistics are dangerous in the hands of the Stupid &#171; Nothing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After weeks of relative quietude, Amanda at Pandagon is back in full-blown, barking-mad mode, citing the new Hopkins report that claims total dead caused from the Iraq War is at 655,000 and climbing. Some of her choicer idiocies: Naturally, the chickenhawks are squawking. LGF and Hot Air are already making noise about how this is supposedly unfair to whip out in October. Which just goes to show how screwed up the discourse is in this country if people think it’s appropriate to withhold actual, verifiable, relevant information from the voters before an election, because god forbid people be informed about the issues before they vote. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After weeks of relative quietude, Amanda at Pandagon is back in full-blown, barking-mad mode, citing the new Hopkins report that claims total dead caused from the Iraq War is at 655,000 and climbing. Some of her choicer idiocies: Naturally, the chickenhawks are squawking. LGF and Hot Air are already making noise about how this is supposedly unfair to whip out in October. Which just goes to show how screwed up the discourse is in this country if people think it’s appropriate to withhold actual, verifiable, relevant information from the voters before an election, because god forbid people be informed about the issues before they vote. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Capitalist Infidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalist Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rightwinged, BINGO! My whole point was what was predicted before the war started. Allah said this:

&lt;em&gt;Whatever the actual number is (and it’s probably closer to Iraq Body Count’s figure than to Lancet’s), &lt;strong&gt;it’s much more than most of us expected&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

I believe just about everyone (except Allah) EXPECTED at least 50,000 civilian deaths. Most left wing lunatics were predicting more than that during the initial invasion. Here we are 3.5 years after that initial invasion and we have an astonishingly low civilian casualty count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightwinged, BINGO! My whole point was what was predicted before the war started. Allah said this:</p>
<p><em>Whatever the actual number is (and it’s probably closer to Iraq Body Count’s figure than to Lancet’s), <strong>it’s much more than most of us expected</strong></em></p>
<p>I believe just about everyone (except Allah) EXPECTED at least 50,000 civilian deaths. Most left wing lunatics were predicting more than that during the initial invasion. Here we are 3.5 years after that initial invasion and we have an astonishingly low civilian casualty count.</p>
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		<title>By: The Thunder Run</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Thunder Run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Web Reconnaissance for 10/12/2006...&lt;/strong&gt;

A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention....</description>
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<p>A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Morning Round Up 10-12 &#171; jperkblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morning Round Up 10-12 &#171; jperkblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Iraqis claim death toll exaggerated [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Press and Liberal Politics Co-Dependent Relationship &#171; Obi&#8217;s Sister</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/10/11/lancet-600000-killed-by-violence-in-iraq-since-us-invaded/comment-page-1/#comment-70568</link>
		<dc:creator>The Press and Liberal Politics Co-Dependent Relationship &#171; Obi&#8217;s Sister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] LGF has additional links to prior publishing by The Lancet.  Allahpundit asks &#8220;Where are all those bodies?&#8221; Texas Rainmaker explores the Democratic shadows behind it all.  It&#8217;s all Bush&#8217;s fault.  Yeah. With tongue planted firmly in cheek, Disturbingly Yellow uses similar research algorithms to find that 600K WMD have been found in Iraq! Stop the presses! Unbelievable. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] LGF has additional links to prior publishing by The Lancet.  Allahpundit asks &#8220;Where are all those bodies?&#8221; Texas Rainmaker explores the Democratic shadows behind it all.  It&#8217;s all Bush&#8217;s fault.  Yeah. With tongue planted firmly in cheek, Disturbingly Yellow uses similar research algorithms to find that 600K WMD have been found in Iraq! Stop the presses! Unbelievable. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Radio Left</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radio Left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wingnuts Attempt to Debunk Iraq Deaths Survey...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Liberal Avenger


	Some people think that it&#8217;s best to just ignore the unpleasant stuff
	A study (link) published in Lancet, arguably the most prestigious medical journal in the world, estimates that the Iraq war has caused 655,000 Iraqi deat...</description>
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<p>The Liberal Avenger</p>
<p>	Some people think that it&#8217;s best to just ignore the unpleasant stuff<br />
	A study (link) published in Lancet, arguably the most prestigious medical journal in the world, estimates that the Iraq war has caused 655,000 Iraqi deat&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Lancet report is politically motivated junk science. I think we&#039;re all mostly agreed upon that (except, perhaps, for the useful idiots on the left).

GregH probably disagrees.Being one of the useful idiots on the left, he makes such pithy (but ignorant) comments like &quot;[h]alf a million dead. Surely a small price to pay for “freedom,” 

The anti-war movement can only succeed (and has traditionally operated) from a so-called &quot;moral high ground,&quot; were corpses are used as capes that the useful idiots drape around their shoulders in high moral theater.

They attempt to “shame” America into not fighting or not fighting to win by attempting use US casualties to convert bulk of America into supporting their political cause.  

Which is why they ALWAYS use a display such as &quot;The Empty Boots,&quot; a pair for each of the fallen in an attempt to &quot;shock&quot; the body politic into &quot;cutting and running&quot; from a war we&#039;ve already won.

This is why they try to assign the laurel of “absolute moral authority” to Cindy Sheehan, as if “Mother Sheehan” is the ONLY person who can judge or approve of the war.

GregH and the rest of the leftist useful idiots don’t give a damn about casualties, ours or theirs.  Dead bodies are nothing but tools to obtain a political agenda to these ghouls. And that agenda is really nothing other than treasonous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Lancet report is politically motivated junk science. I think we&#8217;re all mostly agreed upon that (except, perhaps, for the useful idiots on the left).</p>
<p>GregH probably disagrees.Being one of the useful idiots on the left, he makes such pithy (but ignorant) comments like &#8220;[h]alf a million dead. Surely a small price to pay for “freedom,” </p>
<p>The anti-war movement can only succeed (and has traditionally operated) from a so-called &#8220;moral high ground,&#8221; were corpses are used as capes that the useful idiots drape around their shoulders in high moral theater.</p>
<p>They attempt to “shame” America into not fighting or not fighting to win by attempting use US casualties to convert bulk of America into supporting their political cause.  </p>
<p>Which is why they ALWAYS use a display such as &#8220;The Empty Boots,&#8221; a pair for each of the fallen in an attempt to &#8220;shock&#8221; the body politic into &#8220;cutting and running&#8221; from a war we&#8217;ve already won.</p>
<p>This is why they try to assign the laurel of “absolute moral authority” to Cindy Sheehan, as if “Mother Sheehan” is the ONLY person who can judge or approve of the war.</p>
<p>GregH and the rest of the leftist useful idiots don’t give a damn about casualties, ours or theirs.  Dead bodies are nothing but tools to obtain a political agenda to these ghouls. And that agenda is really nothing other than treasonous.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps I&#039;m still missing it Capitalist Infidel... Are you saying that clearly more than 50,000 have been killed simply because pre-war predictions said so?  That is what I&#039;ve taken away from your comments.

Wait, just glancing back... are you accepting the majority of tallies that say around 50k, but saying that AP ignored the initial predictions by saying essentially that the 50k was more than anyone expected, when clearly a lot of people (especially anti-war folks) were predicting much higher?  Upon a second read, it could be my misunderstanding of what you were initially trying to say.  I was getting the impression that you were trying to say that the count was much higher than the 50k.  By the way, I may actually not be making any sense at this point because I&#039;m practically asleep at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I&#8217;m still missing it Capitalist Infidel&#8230; Are you saying that clearly more than 50,000 have been killed simply because pre-war predictions said so?  That is what I&#8217;ve taken away from your comments.</p>
<p>Wait, just glancing back&#8230; are you accepting the majority of tallies that say around 50k, but saying that AP ignored the initial predictions by saying essentially that the 50k was more than anyone expected, when clearly a lot of people (especially anti-war folks) were predicting much higher?  Upon a second read, it could be my misunderstanding of what you were initially trying to say.  I was getting the impression that you were trying to say that the count was much higher than the 50k.  By the way, I may actually not be making any sense at this point because I&#8217;m practically asleep at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: appletree &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wingnuts Attempt to Debunk Iraq Deaths Survey</title>
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		<dc:creator>appletree &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wingnuts Attempt to Debunk Iraq Deaths Survey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is the argument regularly made by Holocaust deniers. Among others, Allahpundit and Bob Owens have tried this one. They&#8217;re asking for 500,000 death certificates. Sure. As soon as they produce 5 million death certificates for Jews murdered in Europe during WWII. Owens is particularly egregious on this one, because he even refers to the fact that researchers asked for death certificates 87% of the time, and that the certificates were produced in 90% of these cases. 7. &#8220;The study must be inaccurate, because it is politically motivated.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is the argument regularly made by Holocaust deniers. Among others, Allahpundit and Bob Owens have tried this one. They&#8217;re asking for 500,000 death certificates. Sure. As soon as they produce 5 million death certificates for Jews murdered in Europe during WWII. Owens is particularly egregious on this one, because he even refers to the fact that researchers asked for death certificates 87% of the time, and that the certificates were produced in 90% of these cases. 7. &#8220;The study must be inaccurate, because it is politically motivated.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Capitalist Infidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capitalist Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rightwinged, I don&#039;t even know how to respond, you completely missed the point of my first comment. Please re-read it. Allah stated in the post that he thought that 50,000 was more than anyone had originally predicted. In reality 50,000 killed is amazingly low. I was just showing what others were predicting before the war to prove my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rightwinged, I don&#8217;t even know how to respond, you completely missed the point of my first comment. Please re-read it. Allah stated in the post that he thought that 50,000 was more than anyone had originally predicted. In reality 50,000 killed is amazingly low. I was just showing what others were predicting before the war to prove my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allah baby. Much as I love your stuff, you&#039;re wrong. 650,000 over 3.5 years is 530/day. That&#039;s simply not credible. It&#039;s politically-motivated nonsense. Do the math.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allah baby. Much as I love your stuff, you&#8217;re wrong. 650,000 over 3.5 years is 530/day. That&#8217;s simply not credible. It&#8217;s politically-motivated nonsense. Do the math.</p>
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		<title>By: old_dawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>old_dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few random comments. I track military activity in Iraq and Afghanistan as part of my job - and no, I won&#039;t be providing any additional bonafides, so you can ignore this if you want to.
- There are relatively few journalists in the AO, other than in the Green Zone. Most commanders refuse to accept imbeds after all the problems they have caused. The independent journos are limited to how much risk they want to take (remember Danny Pearl). The MSM guys hide in the Green Zone and hire &lt;strike&gt;Al Queda&lt;/strike&gt; local stringers.
- We do, indeed, leave the bodies for the locals to clean up. We are very careful to rescue and treat any wounded, regardless of type(ours/theirs/innocents). The Iraqis issue relatively few death certificates because the Islamic tradition is to bury the dead within 24 hours and without autopsies. If a body is not claimed by the family, it is buried anyway.
- Unfortunately, Arabs tend to lie (or rather say what they think the questioner wants to hear), so relying on interviews to come up with accurate death counts is stupid.
- I don&#039;t think that the media reports of civilian deaths in Iraq are accurate, since they concentrate only on Bagdad or large body counts. The Iraq Ministy of Health numbers are actually pretty good because they rely on raw counts from the hospitals.
- We are running around 1:100 kill rate in Iraq and 1:200 in Afghanistan. Everytime the bad guys come out to fight, we win.
- No one in the Army (at least at my level) believed we would draw down significantly this year or next. 2010 has always been the plan.
- If the American people vote for the cut-and-run ticket, you can count on enlistment/reinlistment rates going down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few random comments. I track military activity in Iraq and Afghanistan as part of my job &#8211; and no, I won&#8217;t be providing any additional bonafides, so you can ignore this if you want to.<br />
- There are relatively few journalists in the AO, other than in the Green Zone. Most commanders refuse to accept imbeds after all the problems they have caused. The independent journos are limited to how much risk they want to take (remember Danny Pearl). The MSM guys hide in the Green Zone and hire <strike>Al Queda</strike> local stringers.<br />
- We do, indeed, leave the bodies for the locals to clean up. We are very careful to rescue and treat any wounded, regardless of type(ours/theirs/innocents). The Iraqis issue relatively few death certificates because the Islamic tradition is to bury the dead within 24 hours and without autopsies. If a body is not claimed by the family, it is buried anyway.<br />
- Unfortunately, Arabs tend to lie (or rather say what they think the questioner wants to hear), so relying on interviews to come up with accurate death counts is stupid.<br />
- I don&#8217;t think that the media reports of civilian deaths in Iraq are accurate, since they concentrate only on Bagdad or large body counts. The Iraq Ministy of Health numbers are actually pretty good because they rely on raw counts from the hospitals.<br />
- We are running around 1:100 kill rate in Iraq and 1:200 in Afghanistan. Everytime the bad guys come out to fight, we win.<br />
- No one in the Army (at least at my level) believed we would draw down significantly this year or next. 2010 has always been the plan.<br />
- If the American people vote for the cut-and-run ticket, you can count on enlistment/reinlistment rates going down.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Disturbingly Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 02:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lancet&#8217;s 600,000...&lt;/strong&gt;

LGF have video of the Lancet editor. Given the methodology of their new study, which is not a body count, but a poll of chosen households, who would ever suspect this editor of choosing the &#8220;right&#8221; households? Me. And, I&#8217;m sure, anyon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lancet&#8217;s 600,000&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>LGF have video of the Lancet editor. Given the methodology of their new study, which is not a body count, but a poll of chosen households, who would ever suspect this editor of choosing the &#8220;right&#8221; households? Me. And, I&#8217;m sure, anyon&#8230;</p>
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		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Corrupt Democrats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hopefully these kind of stories and remarks will get Allah from Hot Air off his ledge of despair. This should be enough to finish off Republicans’ midterm election hopes, once and for all. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hopefully these kind of stories and remarks will get Allah from Hot Air off his ledge of despair. This should be enough to finish off Republicans’ midterm election hopes, once and for all. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SEIXON</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEIXON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Flypaper for Anti-war Numerates...&lt;/strong&gt;

Apparently it&#039;s time for another election soon, as the Lancet publishes yet another obviously inaccurate study on mortality in Iraq. Tim Lambert gets some homework to do....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Flypaper for Anti-war Numerates&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Apparently it&#8217;s time for another election soon, as the Lancet publishes yet another obviously inaccurate study on mortality in Iraq. Tim Lambert gets some homework to do&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Allahpundit, what if the democrats take back neither the Senate, nor the House in this election year where everything is reportedly going their way? Will it then be time to write off the Democratic Party as a party of relevance, or shall we blame it on the Bush/Cheney/Haliburton/Rove/Libby/Rice/VRWC diety for accomplishing the impossible?

Blame it on my advanced years, but I can read, and interpret when ‘facts’ are being skewed, and there are less ‘facts’ being reported this year than in any previous year that I can recall.

DannoJyd on October 11, 2006 at 6:40 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My take (if you care) Dannojyd on that issue, is that the Democratic Party is all but completely finished if they don&#039;t take at least one house this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Allahpundit, what if the democrats take back neither the Senate, nor the House in this election year where everything is reportedly going their way? Will it then be time to write off the Democratic Party as a party of relevance, or shall we blame it on the Bush/Cheney/Haliburton/Rove/Libby/Rice/VRWC diety for accomplishing the impossible?</p>
<p>Blame it on my advanced years, but I can read, and interpret when ‘facts’ are being skewed, and there are less ‘facts’ being reported this year than in any previous year that I can recall.</p>
<p>DannoJyd on October 11, 2006 at 6:40 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>My take (if you care) Dannojyd on that issue, is that the Democratic Party is all but completely finished if they don&#8217;t take at least one house this election.</p>
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		<title>By: DannoJyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>DannoJyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 22:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allahpundit, what if the democrats take back neither the Senate, nor the House in this election year where everything is reportedly going their way? Will it then be time to write off the Democratic Party as a party of relevance, or shall we blame it on the Bush/Cheney/Haliburton/Rove/Libby/Rice/VRWC diety for accomplishing the impossible?

Blame it on my advanced years, but I can read, and interpret when &#039;facts&#039; are being skewed, and there are less &#039;facts&#039; being reported this year than in any previous year that I can recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allahpundit, what if the democrats take back neither the Senate, nor the House in this election year where everything is reportedly going their way? Will it then be time to write off the Democratic Party as a party of relevance, or shall we blame it on the Bush/Cheney/Haliburton/Rove/Libby/Rice/VRWC diety for accomplishing the impossible?</p>
<p>Blame it on my advanced years, but I can read, and interpret when &#8216;facts&#8217; are being skewed, and there are less &#8216;facts&#8217; being reported this year than in any previous year that I can recall.</p>
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		<title>By: RightWinged</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWinged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Athanasius on this one AP...  I hope when you say &lt;i&gt;&quot;This should be enough to finish off Republicans’ midterm election hopes&quot;&lt;/i&gt;, you mean because enough Americans are stupid and buy the lying headline, and that you aren&#039;t yourself buying in to that crap.  As Athanasius said, it&#039;s just necessary planning being spun by the media on the eve of an election.  Would people prefer that we didn&#039;t plan for all scenarios?  That&#039;s what they constantly accuse Bush of.  I agree, this stands to hurt the GOP in the upcoming elections, but I hope you only point that out because there are enough idiots and headline readers out there to not understand the real non-story here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Athanasius on this one AP&#8230;  I hope when you say <i>&#8220;This should be enough to finish off Republicans’ midterm election hopes&#8221;</i>, you mean because enough Americans are stupid and buy the lying headline, and that you aren&#8217;t yourself buying in to that crap.  As Athanasius said, it&#8217;s just necessary planning being spun by the media on the eve of an election.  Would people prefer that we didn&#8217;t plan for all scenarios?  That&#8217;s what they constantly accuse Bush of.  I agree, this stands to hurt the GOP in the upcoming elections, but I hope you only point that out because there are enough idiots and headline readers out there to not understand the real non-story here.</p>
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		<title>By: Athanasius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athanasius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP: You say &quot;this should be enough to finish off&quot; the GOP for this election cycle.

The headline is &quot;Army: Troops to Stay in Iraq Until 2010&quot;

If that weren&#039;t a candidate for this year&#039;s most dishonest headline, I might agree with you. But the first three paragraphs of the story say:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The U.S. Army has plans to keep the current level of soldiers in Iraq through 2010, the top Army officer said Wednesday, a later date than Bush administration or Pentagon officials have mentioned thus far.

The Army chief of staff, Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, cautioned against reading too much into the planning, saying troops levels could be adjusted to actual conditions in Iraq. He said it is easier to hold back forces scheduled to go there than to prepare and deploy units at the last minute.

&quot;This is not a prediction that things are going poorly or better,&quot; Schoomaker told reporters. &quot;It&#039;s just that I have to have enough ammo in the magazine that I can continue to shoot as long as they want us to shoot.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, if no one reads anything but the headline, it creates an awful impression. If anyone reads the actual story, which is about contingency plans the Pentagon always has in its back pockets, they will be convinced anew of the mendacity of the Associated Press.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP: You say &#8220;this should be enough to finish off&#8221; the GOP for this election cycle.</p>
<p>The headline is &#8220;Army: Troops to Stay in Iraq Until 2010&#8243;</p>
<p>If that weren&#8217;t a candidate for this year&#8217;s most dishonest headline, I might agree with you. But the first three paragraphs of the story say:</p>
<blockquote><p>The U.S. Army has plans to keep the current level of soldiers in Iraq through 2010, the top Army officer said Wednesday, a later date than Bush administration or Pentagon officials have mentioned thus far.</p>
<p>The Army chief of staff, Gen. Peter J. Schoomaker, cautioned against reading too much into the planning, saying troops levels could be adjusted to actual conditions in Iraq. He said it is easier to hold back forces scheduled to go there than to prepare and deploy units at the last minute.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is not a prediction that things are going poorly or better,&#8221; Schoomaker told reporters. &#8220;It&#8217;s just that I have to have enough ammo in the magazine that I can continue to shoot as long as they want us to shoot.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, if no one reads anything but the headline, it creates an awful impression. If anyone reads the actual story, which is about contingency plans the Pentagon always has in its back pockets, they will be convinced anew of the mendacity of the Associated Press.</p>
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		<title>By: The Apologist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Apologist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/547_becomes_654965/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This will be a good thread tomorrow.&lt;/a&gt; Blair hammered on this thing for months after it came out in 2004.

By the way Allah, are you bi-polar? You seem especially sensitive to propaganda that hasn&#039;t yet been answered and you&#039;re taking news reports at face value more often these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/547_becomes_654965/" rel="nofollow">This will be a good thread tomorrow.</a> Blair hammered on this thing for months after it came out in 2004.</p>
<p>By the way Allah, are you bi-polar? You seem especially sensitive to propaganda that hasn&#8217;t yet been answered and you&#8217;re taking news reports at face value more often these days.</p>
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