If a teacher forced students to pray a Christian prayer, fast, and other activities, I would withhold support from their actions. While schools should allow prayer, no student should be forced as part of the curriculum….

And the way things are going, it’s going to end in radiation therapy.

The wiki you linked even mentions you have to do it with understanding and sincerity. Had you bothered to read it.

k – you may have me on the three times, gig (though, don’t you have to stomp on a glass? Heh .. .kidding); but the gig about meaning it, is rock solid. Even your wiki quote mentions “honest recitation.”

In short, muslims won’t let you join up all willy-nilly, and I seriously doubt that a school kid will *oops* accidentally become a muslim in school.

No, you’ve got it wrong. The “three times” thing is for divorce. They have to say “I divorce you” three times in front of two witnesses. Read the wiki and lexicorient entries. Once is enough for conversion, and there’s nothing there about “meaning it.”

the gig is that the person has to make that statement, three times in front of two muslim witnesses and mean it.

Just making the statement doesn’t automatically make one a muslim.

Where in the name of the everliving G-d are you going to find a California public school teacher who is going to exploit the 9th Circuit decision with a Christian immersion class?!

Doh!

SF Chronicle:
The U.S. Supreme Court rejected an appeal Monday by evangelical Christian students and their parents who said a Contra Costa County school district engaged in unconstitutional religious indoctrination when it taught students about Islam…

My daughter will be going to private school, I will work as much as I can to make enough money for the tuition. The FAA allows me to work 6 days a week and I already do that, but I will mow lawns, walk dogs and run a paper route on the 7th day if that’s what it takes to avoid sending her to public school. My daughter will NEVER wear a burka!

Therefore, the program, which surely includes reciting this words as part of their multi-cult conditioning, amounts to no less than State sponsored and compelled conversion to Islam.

Technically speaking, that is. Seems like it might sort of kind of be a violation of the First Amendment.

here it is, via wiki:

Shahadah

The shahadah (شهادة (help·info) translit: Shahādah) (Turkish: Şehadet) is the Islamic creed. In Arabic it means “to testify” or “to bear witness”. The shahadah is the declaration of belief in the oneness of God (Allah in Arabic) and in Prophet Muhammad as his last messenger. Recitation of the shahadah is considered one of the Five Pillars of Islam by Sunni Muslims.
Arabic text:
لآ اِلَـهَ اِلاَّ لله محمد رسول الله
Romanization:
lā ilāha illā llāhu; muḥammadun rasūlu llāhi
English translations:
There is no god (ilah) but God (Allah); Muhammad is His messenger/ spokesman.

A single honest recitation of the shahādah in Arabic, in front of two Muslim witnesses, is all that is required for a person to become a Muslim according to most traditional schools.

and from lexicorient.com…
Shahada is not only a testimony of ones belief, but also a legal testimony.

It’s also the kind of case that would normally draw the ACLU like a moth to light, but they were amazingly absent from this one (the suit was brought by the Thomas More Center instead). I wonder how the church-state separation absolutists justified to themselves not being a party to this suit.

Finally, I’m afraid I can’t agree that the next step is Christian immersion classes, if for no other reason than that the aggressively anti-Christian NEA would go absolutely ape if any school system tried to introduce such a course.

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