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Breaking: Foley lawyer to announce “bombshell” at press conference? Update: Molested as a kid by a priest (Video Added)

posted at 5:20 pm on October 3, 2006 by Allahpundit
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So says Raw Story. The conference is due to start soon. We’ll have video.

Update: ABC’s hearing “bombshell,” too.

Update: Some of Foley’s colleagues are wondering why a guy whom they rarely saw drink would be checking into alcohol rehab?

Update: Raw Story had a teaser up earlier claiming that National Journal was going to implicate another Congressman in a story to be released at 5 p.m. It’s 6 p.m. now and I see nothing at NatJour, but maybe that’s what the “bombshell” in Foley’s announcement is.

Update: Apparently the big bombshell is that Foley … was molested as a kid by a priest.

Update: More importantly: he claims he never actually had sex with any kids.

Update (Ian): Some video:



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Hurm. I just heard something interesting on CNN..

J.C. Watts mentioned something about Hastert not knowing about “the graphic pictures.”

Meet the downward spiral.

Enoxo on October 3, 2006 at 5:23 PM

Geez.

Why would Foley’s lawyer want to announce that, though?

Allahpundit on October 3, 2006 at 5:28 PM

Get out ahead of the news story so he can spin it his way? I’ve honestly no clue, but it was an odd statement by Mr. Watts, and then suddenly followed up with a bombsell announcement coming…

Enoxo on October 3, 2006 at 5:29 PM

Foley’s lawyer is only goign to have a positive comment for his client. I have to assume it is something to exonerate him. Maybe an age of consent thing? After all if what he did was merely distasteful, but not illegal, then…I don’t know. This whole thing stinks of putrid politics on both sides.

Ennuipundit on October 3, 2006 at 5:44 PM

Just a hunch, but Foley will announce he’s switching parties and all will be forgiven.

JammieWearingFool on October 3, 2006 at 5:44 PM

A second thought came to me while waiting here, it’s likely just my secret tin-foil hat reception receiver kicking on…

Is this Rove’s October Surprise? Throw one Republican to the wolves, get fervor over him and his actions, and then release a “bomshell” that there are several key democratic members involved in the same thing, or worse?

Enoxo on October 3, 2006 at 5:51 PM

Even if Foley does have a legit drinking problem, the alcoholism defense is a sham of the highest order and nothing more than a ploy to generate sympathy and excuse his “other behavioral problems.” I’ve known plenty of people who drink too much, but drinking didn’t lead any of them anywhere near what Foley did.

World B. Free on October 3, 2006 at 5:51 PM

Switching Parties! ROFL!

BelchSpeak on October 3, 2006 at 5:52 PM

My guess is that he will announce either a blackmail attempt, or that one of his ‘former lovers’ was bribed/coerced into forking the evidence over by liberals.

What would be funny is if you had liberals/democrats secretly trying to use this against him to influence his votes.

kaltes on October 3, 2006 at 5:52 PM

I think Enoxo and Kaltes are in the ballpark here.

Foley may offer to name names of other Congressmen who were complicit in similar violations, in exchange for immunity. I’ll bet he’s not the only one.

see-dubya on October 3, 2006 at 5:54 PM

the above by me being uninformed speculation, of course.

see-dubya on October 3, 2006 at 5:55 PM

nah, it’s never that good.

I figure an apology and saying no Republican leaders knew and he deceived them.

Rightwingsparkle on October 3, 2006 at 6:02 PM

“Convey information not previously released…”

“Never had sexual contact with a minor…”

“Entered substance abuse and mental health facility willingly… for 30 days…”

“Offers no excuse for his conduct…”

“Was molested by a clergyman… [at a young age, 13-15?]…”

“Mark Foley wants you to know that he is a gay man…”

This is a bombshell?

Enoxo on October 3, 2006 at 6:02 PM

Talk about redundant . . . gay? No, I never would have thought.

-T

The Therapist on October 3, 2006 at 6:04 PM

Just heard on Fox News that Foley’s lawyer says he was molested at age 13-14 yr old by someone in the clergy.

Oh geeze. Here we go.

Rightwingsparkle on October 3, 2006 at 6:07 PM

Major Garrett Just told Britt Hume on FOX that the lawyert ’s announcement was that poor little Markie Fooley was abused as a child.

Well, that makes all the difference.

/sarcasm off

Someone predicted a similar announcement yesterday here or over at FR.

If true, it is sad, but no excuse for continmuing the cycle.

LegendHasIt on October 3, 2006 at 6:09 PM

And it’s part of his recovery….sheesh.

Pablo on October 3, 2006 at 6:10 PM

“People close to Mark knew he was a closet drinker…”

And obviously in the closet, too.

Enoxo on October 3, 2006 at 6:10 PM

Bombshell my ass…

this bastard isn’t going to get any pity

kaltes on October 3, 2006 at 6:12 PM

‘THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NEVER ANY INAPPROPRIATE SEXUAL CONTACT, WHATSOEVER, WITH A MINOR’

That is good as Cigarman cannot pardon him, and Bush wouldn’t.

DannoJyd on October 3, 2006 at 6:12 PM

Gee, even with me leaving in the typos RWS beat me to the punch.

Some “bombshell”… I really do despise lawyers, especially grandstanding ones like this one.

LegendHasIt on October 3, 2006 at 6:13 PM

Gee, even with me leaving in the typos RWS beat me to the punch.

– LegendHasIt

Pft, I beat you both with live posting of highlights.

Enoxo on October 3, 2006 at 6:15 PM

Actually, it looks like a bombshell without the bomb.

thirteen28 on October 3, 2006 at 6:16 PM

Blame the Catholics.

Weak.

Mr. Bingley on October 3, 2006 at 6:17 PM

I’m not trying to excuse my actions, but…

“Was molested by a clergyman… [at a young age, 13-15?]…”

I don’t care if was kidnapped by space aliens who had Elvis use an anal probe to sodomize him.

Who cares if he was molested. What kind of a pitty party is this?

E L Frederick on October 3, 2006 at 6:19 PM

Oh, he was molested by a priest, eh? Well, that changes everything, then.

/sarcasm off.

see-dubya on October 3, 2006 at 6:19 PM

Yeah,get caught being a scum bucket and throw the Christians under the bus.
Where does he think this will get him? More love from the Dems bacause he is a victim of the clergy?

bbz123 on October 3, 2006 at 6:22 PM

OH, sorry, Enoxo. Didn’t scroll up far enough. OK, you get the blue ribbon…. and my abject apology for ‘dissing you. ;-)

LegendHasIt on October 3, 2006 at 6:22 PM

Woohoo! Abject apologies!

Enoxo on October 3, 2006 at 6:25 PM

Okayyyy. He was supposedly molested by a priest at a young age but how does that relate to his obvious joy in getting his jollies off as seen in the text messaages? Looks like he was suffering pretty bad at the time talking to a 16-year old boy.

Kokonut on October 3, 2006 at 6:25 PM

*yawn*
I’m tiring of this story. He’s booted! He’s in rehab! If he can be convicted of a crime he no-doubt will be! What else do you want?

When Kennedy broke the law no one spent weeks disecting whether he had voted under the influence or anything, he went to rehab, then back to work, end of story.

This guy is KICKED OUT ALREADY. He’s OUT OF POLITICS FOREVER. It’s OVER. End. of. story.

The media is obviously trying to sully his name to the point that no-one will DARE vote for it, even though it’s just his name on the ballot, not him.

NTWR on October 3, 2006 at 6:25 PM

I’m still not sure why the Left isn’t calling for “understanding” in this case. Aren’t they the ones that always have the “let’s have dialogue and try to understand why” attitude?

Hypocrites? Uhmmmm….yes.

For the life of me, I would NEVER defend soliciting a minor, but I would vote for my dead grandmother before I voted for a democrat. (But I would definitely vote!)

SouthernGent on October 3, 2006 at 6:40 PM

Um, isn’t this what every one of those dudes tells Chris Hansen? “Uh, yeah, but I wasn’t going to do anything.”

Editor on October 3, 2006 at 6:49 PM

So, there you have it. Victimhood and substance abuse as a mitigator of personal responsibility. String Foley’s page-filching ass up to the rafters. And why is Hastert still pulling a Speaker’s paycheck?

Kid from Brooklyn on October 3, 2006 at 7:13 PM

Whose Gaydar didn’t see this?

Anyone see the video of AMW Host being told by Foley that he knew people who molested kids were truly afraid of getting caught because of AMW?

They’ll always have San Diego!

Drtuddle on October 3, 2006 at 7:36 PM

Over at the moonbat site crooks and liars, there is a massive orgy going on. The kids are soiling themselves over Foley. Ah, but where is that famous progressive compassion??? What’s that you say??? Only when its a Democrat. Oh, right.

Andy in Agoura Hills on October 3, 2006 at 8:01 PM

I get it.

The clergyman abused him by making him drink jello shots, which made him an alcoholic, which turned him into a pedaphile, which qualified him for a congressional seat, that forced him into communicating with pages, who turned him on by showing up for work in their provocative three piece suits.

It all makes perfect sense now.

fogw on October 3, 2006 at 8:18 PM

Being a homosexual in Congress must be tough right now, but don’t blame ‘progressives’ for that.

DannoJyd on October 3, 2006 at 8:30 PM

I don’t get it. Maybe I’m just a boor, but I do not understand the connection between the alleged molestation of this guy when he was a kid, and his predatory behaviour against children while he is an adult in a position of trust.

Does that mean he has no understanding of right and wrong? Not based on his utterances.

Does it imply that he has been prevented from having a successful career? I don’t think so…he has been elected multiple times to the US House of Representatives.

It is a kind of “pass it forward”, but in a bad way? I dunno.

I think that this is just a cheap, sleazy way to try an get some sympathy and pass off some blame to some priest by invoking a modern stereotype. This is not to say that, if the molestation did occur it isn’t terrible. But I don’t see any connection with that and what this grown up, successful “man” has done.

Blaise on October 3, 2006 at 8:40 PM

I wasn’t feeling sympathy for this guy to begin with.

I am feeling less and less sympathy for this guy every time he tries to provoke it with another sob “alcoholism” or “was abused as a kid” story he throws out there.

He’s a bastard. Let the FBI do their investigatin’.

ChrisInCanadaOrAussy on October 3, 2006 at 8:55 PM

I have absolutely NO sympathy at all for this pervert. Molested as a child – boo-freaking-hoo!

But if Foley was a gay pedophile who wasn’t a Republican Congressman, there would be no controversy.

speed647 on October 3, 2006 at 8:57 PM

In the midst of all this pageantry, I’m sitting here wondering why parents send their children to work in the Congress, despite their presumptive fragility. To put it another way, I wonder why parents send their fresh, young adults to work in the Congress, despite their presumptive hotness. And I wonder why children turn into fresh, hot, young adults before they stop being children, since children and sex don’t mix. And I wonder why fresh, hot, young adults remain children, since being children must strongly conflict with their fresh, hot, young-adult sexuality. If it’s not too crude to say, I don’t understand the cosmic or divine purpose of having so many sixteen- and seventeen-year-old children running around ovulating or loaded with spunk, and horny, as if they’re already supposed to be producing the next generation, unless perhaps they are already supposed to be producing the next generation. Things would make a lot more sense if that were the case.

I’ll stipulate, for the sake of discussion, that these pages really are just boys and girls, fragile children in need of the protection of the laws. I’ll stipulate that pages are children, despite what every male reader of my comment must suspect is a male page’s typical daily routine: He wakes up in the morning and spends his first five minutes desperately waiting for his “morning wood” to subside, so he can pee. He gets in the shower, spends a few minutes waking up under the hot water, then gets busy washing up. The slick suds feel really good on his hairy “junk,” so he str0kes himself out to his full seven inches, gets the rhythm, and goes at it. When he’s finished and he’s caught his breath, he pushes the evidence to the drain with his foot and watches it slide down, glob by sticky glob. He gets out, dries off, shaves, then smears deodorant on his hairy armpits, hoping to reduce his manly stink, which has become such a problem lately, despite the established fact that he’s just a child. All day he dreams about sex, while he does whatever work it is that pages do. He goes home and stays up till 1:00 a.m. playing a PC game over the internet. Then he goes to bed, but before he falls asleep, he drowsily busts out another one. There’s no drain handy this time, just Kleenex and a trash can.

Never mind that his grubby, no-nonsense, bust-another-one sexuality is at its peak. He’s a child; he’ll get PTSD if a hairy, fat dude IMs an impure thought to him. Fine, I won’t argue, but then I will insist that parents keep their precious children at home, so that the Congress can conduct the nation’s legislation without the distraction these children inexplicably pose.

Kralizec on October 3, 2006 at 9:28 PM

I got all 17+ minutes of the presser & Q&A here…

http://www.msunderestimated.com/2006/10/03/mark-foleys-attorney-speaks-video/

MsUnderestimated on October 3, 2006 at 10:03 PM

Kralizec,

You could have said adults should refrain from preying on the raging hormones of innocent adolescents and spared us the Penthouse Forum article.

The last person I heard talking that much about masturbation was Jocelyn Elders.

Seek professional help.

fogw on October 3, 2006 at 10:45 PM

You could have said adults should refrain from preying on the raging hormones of innocent adolescents….

Re-read.

the Penthouse Forum article

Just so, fogw, just so. One of my very points is that a frank, un-bowdlerized description of a sixteen-year-old “child’s” daily routine reeks of his sexual maturity. But you have said it yourself, so what further need have we of witnesses?

The last person I heard talking that much about masturbation was Jocelyn Elders.

Another of my points was that we’re too dainty to come face-to-face with the circumstance that the youth have become finely-tuned, fully reproductive, adult members of the species, until years after it’s happened. You can be my Exhibit A, fogw.

Kralizec on October 4, 2006 at 2:23 AM

Kokonut wrote:

…but how does that relate to his obvious joy in getting his jollies off as seen in the text messaages?

Why do you think the IM messages produced by Brian Ross are not forgeries?

The Democrats tried to pass forged National Guard documents as factual in 2004 with Dan Rather defending their authenticity. Have you forgotten that?

What makes you think that these are dialogs actually involving Foley? Because Brian Ross says so?

Forging IM logs or saved sessions is immeasurably easier than a printed document using a modern electronic word processing font. All you need is a simple text editor.

Being a gay Republican, still closeted, places the individual between the rock and the hard place. He is vulnerable to blackmail OR outing just before an election, making his formerly “safe” seat vulnerable.

And the Democrats are already running ads accusing the Republican leadership of covering up the fact that they allowed a predator to prey on boys….

georgej on October 4, 2006 at 3:49 AM

Apparently the big bombshell is that Foley … was molested as a kid by a priest.

What did BenediKKKt XVI know, and when did he know it?

Niko on October 4, 2006 at 5:25 AM

Just so, fogw, just so. One of my very points is that a frank, un-bowdlerized description of a sixteen-year-old “child’s” daily routine reeks of his sexual maturity. But you have said it yourself, so what further need have we of witnesses?

Not quite pal. I merely suggested graphic comments like “fresh, hot, young adults”,”loaded with spunk” and ” strokes himself out to his full seven inches” were over the top [childish] and unnecessary to make your point. Your follow-up comment is laughable as well. The words “sixteen-year-old and “sexual maturity” do not belong together in the same sentence together (sounds like something witten by a sixteen-year-old). Sexual awareness, yes. Sexually active, yes. But sexually mature, afraid not.

Another of my points was that we’re too dainty to come face-to-face with the circumstance that the youth have become finely-tuned, fully reproductive, adult members of the species, until years after it’s happened. You can be my Exhibit A, fogw.

Wow, now there’s a convoluted revelation. Our horny “children”, to use your words, can hardly be considered both youth and adult members simultaneously simply because they are fully reproductive. They are one or the other, yet you somehow manage to lump them into the same category.

I’m fascinated by your ability to know how everyone else thinks and perceives the world of sexuality.

If we ever were able to meet face-to-face (bring a stool to stand on), I suspect you would retract associating me with that “too dainty” remark in a heartbeat.

fogw on October 4, 2006 at 8:52 AM

…sounds like something witten [sic] by a sixteen-year-old….

If we ever were able to meet face-to-face (bring a stool to stand on), I suspect you would retract associating me with that “too dainty” remark in a heartbeat.

You and I are beside the point.

The words “sixteen-year-old [sic] and “sexual maturity” do not belong together in the same sentence together [sic]…. Our horny “children”, to use your words, can hardly be considered both youth and adult members simultaneously simply because they are fully reproductive. They are one or the other, yet you somehow manage to lump them into the same category.

Consider what I must mean by sexual maturity if I collocated “sixteen-year-old” and “sexual maturity.” I’m not talking about the wisdom that sometimes comes with experience. As for that and the rest of your remarks, the very thing I’ve been doing, throughout, is attempting to draw attention to the sharp contrast between the thoroughly adult sexual biology of most sixteen-year-olds and our cultural and legal classification of them as children. And on the other hand, I’ve pointed out that although we claim to classify them as children, we consider it fitting to dress them up and send them to Congress. The confusion you’ve noted is precisely the confusion I’m pointing out. Nor am I offering a doctrine; I’ve drawn attention to the confusion for the sake of whomever is willing to reconsider everything from the beginning.

Kralizec on October 4, 2006 at 10:25 AM

Understand Foley was always the last kid picked for dodgeball in grade school. Well there you are.

honora on October 4, 2006 at 10:30 AM

Consider what I must mean by sexual maturity if I collocated “sixteen-year-old” and “sexual maturity.” I’m not talking about the wisdom that sometimes comes with experience. As for that and the rest of your remarks, the very thing I’ve been doing, throughout, is attempting to draw attention to the sharp contrast between the thoroughly adult sexual biology of most sixteen-year-olds and our cultural and legal classification of them as children. And on the other hand, I’ve pointed out that although we claim to classify them as children, we consider it fitting to dress them up and send them to Congress. The confusion you’ve noted is precisely the confusion I’m pointing out. Nor am I offering a doctrine; I’ve drawn attention to the confusion for the sake of whomever is willing to reconsider everything from the beginning.

Kralisec,

Kudos.

I see you are capable of making a valid point without filthy language and disgusting sexual visualizations. Had you taken this route initially I wouldn’t have bothered to poke a barb at you. From the outset I was offended by your language, not your opinion.

So that I might return to civility as well, I withdraw my last antagonistic remark.

fogw on October 4, 2006 at 11:06 AM

I see you are capable of making a valid point without filthy language and disgusting sexual visualizations. Had you taken this route initially I wouldn’t have bothered to poke a barb at you. From the outset I was offended by your language, not your opinion. So that I might return to civility as well, I withdraw my last antagonistic remark.

* My point isn’t just valid; it’s true.
* I post often enough that my rhetorical range can’t actually be in doubt.
* Your barb is irrelevant; I care about issues, theory, politics, and written style. My vulgarities were thoughtfully chosen and carefully calibrated to make my point.
* Given that I drew critical comment from just one person, I’m quite pleased with my choices and calibrations.
* I don’t really know what it means to “withdraw” a remark or why your personal antagonism matters.

Kralizec on October 4, 2006 at 4:48 PM

My vulgarities were thoughtfully chosen and carefully calibrated to make my point.

Kralizec on October 4, 2006 at 4:48 PM

Thoughtful Vulgarities:

children turn into fresh, hot, young adults

children running around ovulating or loaded with spunk

desperately waiting for his “morning wood” to subside

The slick suds feel really good on his hairy “junk

he strokes himself out to his full seven inches, gets the rhythm, and goes at it

he pushes the evidence to the drain with his foot and watches it slide down, glob by sticky glob

but before he falls asleep, he drowsily busts out another one

He’s a child; he’ll get PTSD if a hairy, fat dude IMs an impure thought to him

Whew!

Let me catch my breath, and wipe the tears from my cheek. I am momentarily blinded by your God-like thoughtfulness. No wonder you’re so pleased with yourself.

Have you ever considered sending your resume to Hallmark?

fogw on October 4, 2006 at 5:24 PM

Kralizec,

When I read your initial post on this thread I thought I was reading some stupid, poorly written, preverted romance novel. Why in the world would anyone ASSUME that kids who become pages, interns, assistants to political figures, etc. in Washington are there for anything other than participating in government and possibly preparing for a career in public service. You MAY also think that this is their main focus – but it sure sounds as if you think that neither the Congresspersons nor the pages/interns are able to conduct themselves professionally. I’m sure there are some who go there for prestige or the chance to meet some important and influencial figures – and maybe even to get involved sexually – but you make it sound as if that’s the only thing in which these teenagers are interested. And you also say in your last statement that they are a distraction to the Congresspersons – as if they weren’t able to control themselves, either. Please give all these participants a bit of respect – don’t assume they have the same low moral character that you have.

Janakle on October 4, 2006 at 6:18 PM

Don’t confuse lack of comment with agreement or approval.

LegendHasIt on October 4, 2006 at 11:08 PM

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