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Frist says U.S. can’t win, should bring Taliban into Afghan government; Update: Frist backs off — somewhat; Update: Brits in secret truce with Taliban?

posted at 4:15 pm on October 2, 2006 by Allahpundit
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The Commissar has decided to vote Democratic this fall.

Why not? What’s the difference?

U.S. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said Monday that the Afghan guerrilla war can never be won militarily and called for efforts to bring the Taliban and their supporters into the Afghan government.

The Tennessee Republican said he had learned from briefings that Taliban fighters were too numerous and had too much popular support to be defeated by military means…

Sen. Mel Martinez, a Republican from Florida accompanying Frist, said negotiating with the Taliban was not “out of the question” but that fighters who refused to join the political process would have to be defeated.

“A political solution is how it’s all going to be solved,” he said.

Yep. That’ll solve it.

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Update: If we’re going to do this, just pull everyone out. Don’t lend an imprimatur of legitimacy to it by shepherding these medieval savages into a U.S.-backed government. Pull out, admit defeat, and let the Taliban take back the country through force. Then we can really and truly be back to September 10, 2001. Minus a skyscraper or two.

Update: Ace says he’s done with the GOP. So am I. That’s it.

Update: Some of the commenters are wondering if Frist was maybe quoted out of context. Here’s more from the article:

The senator said he had been warned to expect attacks in Afghanistan to increase. There appears to be an “unlimited flow” of Afghans and foreigners, he said, “willing to pick up arms and integrate themselves with the Taliban.”

He said the only way to win in places like Qalat is to “assimilate people who call themselves Taliban into a larger, more representative government.”

“Approaching counterinsurgency by winning hearts and minds will ultimately be the answer,” Frist said. “Military versus insurgency one-to-one doesn’t sound like it can be won. It sounds to me … that the Taliban is everywhere.”

Does this guy actually think we’re going to convince the Taliban of the virtues of liberal democracy?

Update: Just posted at VOLPAC:

I’m currently overseas visiting our troops in Afghanistan, but I wanted to take a moment to address an Associated Press story titled, “Frist: Taliban Should Be in Afghan Gov’t.” The story badly distorts my remarks and takes them out of context.

First of all, let me make something clear: The Taliban is a murderous band of terrorists who’ve oppressed the people of Afghanistan with their hateful ideology long enough. America’s overthrow of the Taliban and support for responsible, democratic governance in Afghanistan is a great accomplishment that should not and will not be reversed.

Having discussed the situation with commanders on the ground, I believe that we cannot stabilize Afghanistan purely through military means. Our counter-insurgency strategy must win hearts and minds and persuade moderate Islamists(!!!) potentially sympathetic to the Taliban to accept the legitimacy of the Afghan national government and democratic political processes.

National reconciliation is a necessary and an urgent priority … but America will never negotiate with terrorists or support their entry into Afghanistan’s government.

Emphasis and exclamation points mine. That’s not what he allegedly told the AP, though: “He said the only way to win in places like Qalat is to ‘assimilate people who call themselves Taliban into a larger, more representative government.’”

I think what we’ve got here is a Kinsleyan gaffe.

More: So basically Frist’s distinguishing between the actual Taliban, whom we must defeat by any means necessary, and people who “call themselves Taliban” but aren’t really — even if they themselves don’t know it yet.

“Moderate Islamists.” As if the degrees of Islamic radicalization weren’t hard enough to keep track of, now we’ve got “moderate Islamists” in the mix.

Actually, now that I think of it, that’s a nifty description for CAIR.

Update: A truce?

That’s not a tabloid rag reporting that. That’s arguably the most respected paper in Britain.

I need to get away from the computer for awhile. I’ll leave you with this quote:

The deal — and the avoidance of the word ceasefire — allows both sides to disengage without losing face, an important aspect in the Afghan psyche. Polls suggest that 70% of the population are waiting to see whether Nato or the Taliban emerge as the dominant force before they decide which to back.

Update: Ace agrees. Not good enough.

Update: Rusty’s disgust reaches further: “If democracy in the Middle East is a grand experiment, then the null hypothesis has been disproven. No, the majority of Muslim nations are not yet ready for democracy. Give them another hundred years and we’ll run this experiment again.”


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Okay, that was a great set-up, but where’s the punchline?

Frist doesn’t plan to outflank the Democrats on the left, does he?

Bob Owens on October 2, 2006 at 4:27 PM

Ugh. Heartwrenching.

Frist flew the coop long ago. He’s just one of the many a-holes (like black-holes, just short for appeasement-holes) within our government and country.

Any reference to history, logic, or survival is sucked in and lost by these dangerous people in our society.

NTWR on October 2, 2006 at 4:27 PM

Its like these morons want to lose.

Iblis on October 2, 2006 at 4:28 PM

BREAKING NEWS::::::

By suggesting that we should “negotiate” with those who conspired to kill THREE THOUSAND AMERICANS, as if these satanic cretins were honorable men who honored their word, the stupid idiot otherwise known as BILL FRIST has just doomed his presidential aspirations.

Soothsayer on October 2, 2006 at 4:30 PM

What a crock of crap. We don’t need to bring them into the Afghan govt.; we need to make life even harder for them. How can Frist support appeasing the Taliban?

The Taliban needs to understand that when you attack us, you get U.S. military in your country for years and years.

Newsflash to Mr. Frist: We didn’t create a military to soak up scholorships. They are there to kill our enemies and that is exactly what they have been doing.

Frist annoys me.

Cary on October 2, 2006 at 4:31 PM

This is just depressing. I wish we could vote them all out.

That’s it! We need a “NONE OF THE ABOVE” option and the seat become vacant. To be a Senator, you have to at least be better than nothing.

frankj on October 2, 2006 at 4:35 PM

What the frickin hell?

Fine.

I’m done.

Let the Republicans lose.

Slublog on October 2, 2006 at 4:37 PM

Ace says he’s done with the GOP. So am I. That’s it.

I’ll make that three. Bill “Fristed” conservatives one time too many.

Bob Owens on October 2, 2006 at 4:38 PM

I agree, except from the thought that no war can be won the way it’s being PC’d to death. Blech!

SouthernGent on October 2, 2006 at 4:39 PM

So the most powerful military in the history of the world can’t defeat a bunch of camel jockeys wearing sandals and nightgowns and living in the 7th century? Americans who think like that don’t deserve to be free.

RedWinged Blackbird on October 2, 2006 at 4:40 PM

Remember those glorious 100 days in 1994? It has been all downhill since.

Valiant on October 2, 2006 at 4:40 PM

No one can say that Frist is soft on surrender.

rw on October 2, 2006 at 4:41 PM

Frist is going to take some serious sh** for this… The sad thing is, excluding the talking to the Taliban part, he’s kind of right. Does anyone think the uncivilized peoples of these countries will ever straighten up? I’m not advocating total destruction, but I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the only “true” victory would come if we stopped building nations and started building parking lots. If some small “radical Islam” sect was the problem, they’d be pushed to the backwoods (or back-desert) like the KKK/neo-Nazis, etc. The problem is that the jihadists, when you get down to it, are a majority which is why they maintain such power in the Islamic world.

But in another way Frist is wrong… We could be doing better militarily, if the military were allowed to do their job. Remember the 100+ Taliban that we didn’t kill becaues they were at a funeral? That wasn’t the decision of the boots on the ground, that was Washington PC (not a typo) bullsh**.

This is just too infuriating and I’m too tired to think about this now, although Frist will be getting an email and I suggest EVERYONE send him one later to make sure he gets the message.

RightWinged on October 2, 2006 at 4:43 PM

Just called Frist’s office. The guy I talked to appeared to be totally unaware of what Frist said and didn’t believe it. I referred him (thru this site) to the IHT/AP story.

I would counsel patience — not a lot, but at least a smidge. Remember who wrote the story.

Tom Blumer
BizzyBlog.com

Tom Blumer on October 2, 2006 at 4:44 PM

Tom, i hope it’s the case…

If not, there goes my hope there’s a right choice in this election.

Editor on October 2, 2006 at 4:45 PM

Update: If we’re going to do this, just pull everyone out. Don’t lend an imprimatur of legitimacy to it by shepherding these medieval savages into a U.S.-backed government. Pull out, admit defeat, and let the Taliban take back the country through force. Then we can really and truly be back to September 10, 2001. Minus a skyscraper or two.

You are so absolutely right about this. As bad as both directions are, it’s infinitely worse to approve of this by our presence and assistance, not to mention to pay for it. Better to lose a war and know it than lie to ourselves as a civilization.

Alex K on October 2, 2006 at 4:47 PM

Done with the GOP? Then who or what exactly do you intend to vote for? Do you actually think Dems would do any better? I know you don’t.

Look, Frist is an idiot but the Dems would be utterly disasterous. Lesser of two evils is accurate here to be sure, however we must keep focus especially during a close election.

I don’t blame the entire GOP for Mark Foley, nor do I blame the entire GOP for Frist.

The illegal alien issue made me so mad at the GOP that I swore I would never vote for another Republican, and yes I meant it at the time. Guess what? I came to my senses and so will you the next time you hear Pelosi speak about anything.

Frist is simply dead wrong on this, like he has been on other things if we stop and remember.

Please don’t write off the entire GOP because of this fool. Instead, use your skills to make sure everyone knows just how terrible a Senator he really is.

By the way, good post AP.

Cary on October 2, 2006 at 4:49 PM

RightWinged,
We don’t need to straighten out the uncivilized, we just need to kill them.

If we won’t even wipe out the Taliban who hid al Qaeda before and after 9/11, then we should just surrender.

Hey! Terrorists! Come on into America and blow up all you want! Just wipe your feet first or something…

I’m mad. And I don’t get mad easily. Maybe it’s a severe misquote…

frankj on October 2, 2006 at 4:50 PM

before I crash, and get attacked if people misunderstand what I’m saying, I have to repeat that I’m not agreeing with Frist that we “can’t” win, I’m agreeing that we can’t if we continue to choose not to, the way we are now.

And while I’m tempted to swear of Republicans the way everyone else is, think about the alternative here people. I don’t know what this crap is out of Frist, but keep in mind he’s not President Bush first of all. But seriously consider what we’re in for with Democrats taking back any power… Just imagine the countless “investigations” wasting our time and money over the next couple years, and that’s not even the half of it. There’s really no chance for anything outside of the two main parties right now, so the only other choice is the Democrats… Are you really willing to just hand it back to them? REALLY!? I know you might say “there’s no difference”, but you know there are plenty of differences, and I think if you’ve got to pick one you’ve still got to go with the Republicans.

RightWinged on October 2, 2006 at 4:52 PM

Cary, I’d have a little bit of patience with Frist if he weren’t Majority Leader. Being MJ means that you’re on the same page as your President in public 100% of the time, even if you disagree with him in private. If a person isn’t up to that, they should resign as Majority Leader. It’s time for a Coburn DeMint takeover anyway.

Tom Blumer on October 2, 2006 at 4:52 PM

Plus he said it in Afghanistan. Real presidential material there.

Valiant on October 2, 2006 at 4:54 PM

I just tipped Andrew Breitbart to the story. Let’s see if Drudge picks it up.

Allahpundit on October 2, 2006 at 4:54 PM

I guess I’m not done with the GOP, but Frist can’t be majority leader. The GOP shouldn’t be led by weakness.

frankj on October 2, 2006 at 4:55 PM

Tom, it would be Fristastic if would would post that phone number.

BirdEye on October 2, 2006 at 4:55 PM

RightWinged,
We don’t need to straighten out the uncivilized, we just need to kill them.

I totally agree frankj, and that is basically what I was trying to say.

Done with the GOP? Then who or what exactly do you intend to vote for? Do you actually think Dems would do any better? I know you don’t.

Look, Frist is an idiot but the Dems would be utterly disasterous. Lesser of two evils is accurate here to be sure, however we must keep focus especially during a close election.

Exactly right Cary, I said essentially the same in my comment at 4:52 PM.

RightWinged on October 2, 2006 at 4:57 PM

It would be baaaad to vote in Dems to try and teach the Reps a lesson.
1. They wouldn’t learn from it.
2. Dems would be in power.

It’s just time to take the PC out of DC.
Vote the wishy-washy vote whores out, vote the firm standing stand takers in!

NTWR on October 2, 2006 at 5:03 PM

I guess since we can’t stop pedophiles and murderers completely, it’d be better just to make them a part of our society and find a way to simply embrace their ways…

NRA4Freedom on October 2, 2006 at 5:03 PM

Please don’t write off the entire GOP because of this fool. Instead, use your skills to make sure everyone knows just how terrible a Senator he really is.

Please keep in mind that Frist isn’t on any ballot this year, and I’m guessing that Republicans who are will disassociate themselves from these idiotic comments.

For that matter, Frist won’t be on more than a primary ballot or two in ‘08, but after a couple of 7th or 8th place finishes his presidential campaign will be over as well.

thirteen28 on October 2, 2006 at 5:03 PM

Whoa, whoa boys!

This does not pass the smell test. Either I have no idea what he’s talking about, or someone got this wrong. Makes.No.Sense.

Jaibones on October 2, 2006 at 5:05 PM

Indeed you did, RightWinged. I forgot to mention something that you did not forget: All the wonderful hearings and impeachments if the Dems win. I truly shudder at the thought.

Remember folks, Allah and Ace are damn right to be hopping mad about this and I can really sympathize.

Frist is on the fringe and this is a good thing. I am so very happy that, thanks to reporting by Ace and Allah, so many more people will now know just how terrible a Senator Frist really is. Something that some of us have known for a long time.

I knew the moron would screw up. I had hoped it would not be during a very important election. Be careful what you wish for I suppose.

Cary on October 2, 2006 at 5:06 PM

Cary is the only stable and sane voice here.

The Commissar, Ace and AP have overreacted. Please, let’s confirm the facts before we become the other side, or enable the other side to win by our hot-headedness.

Speaking of, from Ace:

More… I don’t need the goddamned Republican Party in power to sign “peace” deals with terrorists. I can get that easily enough from the Democratic Party. I’ve supported these vacuous, cowardly, inept, corrupt motherfuckers for one fucking reason– to fight terrorists.

if they want to sign peace deals with them, that’s their decision. I and others can make another decision. The country may move in this direction, but we hardly have to endorse the decision by voting in favor of Quislings.

At least the Democrats talk tough about sending more troops to Afghanistan and killing Taliban fighters and capturing bin Ladin.

…and I believe in miracles, really, really, and Santa Claus, and the Easther bunny.

Already the commenters follow you 3 (The Commissar, Ace and AP) – if you erroneaously influence enough voters on the right, then you will deserve Pelosi & Co. and all they will bring. You haven’t seen nihilism yet. I almost wish that you ‘win’, by losing, so I can see you ’suffer’ for the next few years. But I can’t be that savage, for the sake of this country and the free world, as we still know it to be.

These are serious times, which deserve more seriousness, aside from the fact that I also never liked the measly Mr. Frist.

Entelechy on October 2, 2006 at 5:07 PM

Frank J and everyone else — I won’t post the phone number, but I’ll post a link to it, which conveniently has the phone number of EVERY senator:

http://senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Tom Blumer on October 2, 2006 at 5:08 PM

Just when the UN finally agrees we’re winning;

UN Report Says U.S. Breaking Al-Qaeda – James Gordon Meek (New York Daily News)

A survey for the UN Security Council made public Wednesday concluded that al-Qaeda “may see more losses than gains” in Iraq.

The flow of foreign fighters into Iraq has slowed to a trickle, and the slaying of Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi may have confused the uprising.

Leave it to the stupid party to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Terp Mole on October 2, 2006 at 5:09 PM

Like I said in another post, voting for lesser evil is still voting for evil.

The best thing that can happen at this point is all these losers are purged from office (and thus the party), we suffer for a few years and then we are able to get some new true conservatives into office.

Benaiah on October 2, 2006 at 5:09 PM

I apparently am ahead of the curve, having severed ties with the GOP prior to the ‘04 elections.

For all of you who cannot vote GOP now I plead with you to seriously consider 3rd party candidates. Find out who they are, study their platforms, ask questions and vote for who you believe will be best for America. And remember, no matter who you vote for, an educated voter who votes with integrity never wastes their vote!

Bellicose Muse on October 2, 2006 at 5:11 PM

Like I said in another post, voting for lesser evil is still voting for evil.

The best thing that can happen at this point is all these losers are purged from office (and thus the party), we suffer for a few years and then we are able to get some new true conservatives into office.

Benaiah on October 2, 2006 at 5:09 PM

These are dire times – we don’t have time for experimentation.

Same goes for your comment Bellicose Muse. I’m all for a 3rd party but for now, we’d just throw our votes into the wind. We’re in a global War on Terror.

Or maybe it’s just an infraction of some law, oh well – why is my head exploding?

Entelechy on October 2, 2006 at 5:17 PM

As inept as Frist is, I find this difficult to fathom.

JammieWearingFool on October 2, 2006 at 5:19 PM

Wait, isn’t Frist retiring?

Iblis on October 2, 2006 at 5:20 PM

And remember, no matter who you vote for, an educated voter who votes with integrity never wastes their vote!

Bellicose Muse on October 2, 2006 at 5:11 PM

Unless you vote for someone with no chance of winning.

I mean, it might make you feel good if you delude yourself enough, but it has little value beyond that. Plus, you have to actually drive to the polling place and back, so you have to factor in gas prices.

frankj on October 2, 2006 at 5:28 PM

Voting for a third party candidate is a vote for Speaker Pelosi. That’s just bad advice.

You want some better advice? Identify a conservative primary opponent for Frist who can do the job and won’t wet the bed. Send him money. It’s Tennessee. I’m sure there’s someone there with a spine.

I keep refreshing this entry, expecting to see UPDATE: LOCAL STRINGER MISIDENTIFIED FRIST. But it hasn’t happened yet.

see-dubya on October 2, 2006 at 5:29 PM

I honestly am dumbfounded by this..I simply cant believe he said it.
TRUST ME The International Herald Tribune is the NYT associated paper. They consistently lean VERY antiAmerican in their reporting. I cancelled the damn thing when I lived in Paris and had the UK Sun delivered instead!
I dont think Frist is that stupid. Possibly he acts before he really thinks and isnt above putting his finger in the wind and going with that but surely he isnt this dense.

labwrs on October 2, 2006 at 5:30 PM

You want some better advice? Identify a conservative primary opponent for Frist who can do the job and won’t wet the bed. Send him money. It’s Tennessee. I’m sure there’s someone there with a spine.

Frist isn’t running for re-election, is he?

Allahpundit on October 2, 2006 at 5:30 PM

We need a “NONE OF THE ABOVE” option and the seat become vacant. To be a Senator, you have to at least be better than nothing.

Brilliant. We should start a movement just to see how the worthless fucktards would justify their opposition to it.

B Moe on October 2, 2006 at 5:31 PM

Its time for a coup in the republican party
ABso-FRAGGIN-lUtely clean house

I didn’t join the Republicans to get the same BS I did from the Democrats

and if we can’t clean out the Republicans then we form the conservative party

Defector01 on October 2, 2006 at 5:32 PM

Crap. Take away my fun.

Okay, then, hunker down in your bomb shelter, contemplating the expiration date on your stack of tinned pork,

see-dubya on October 2, 2006 at 5:33 PM

Its time for a coup in the republican party
ABso-FRAGGIN-lUtely clean house

I didn’t join the Republicans to get the same BS I did from the Democrats

and if we can’t clean out the Republicans then we form the conservative party

I am in.

CrimsonFisted on October 2, 2006 at 5:35 PM

With the US’ surveillance ability, coupled with the natural lack of cloud cover in that region, there’s no reason we can’t take out any suspected terrorist training camps with unmanned drones and cruise missiles (which was originally stated as our aim in Afghanistan, along with freeing those oppressed by the Taliban).
The most frustrating thing (among many) about trying to nation build in Islamic countries, is that once given the chance, they’ll vote in a theocracy, and nullify our sacrifices overnight.
Yes, we had to do something. I hate the idea of bailing out, but this is a colossal waste of lives and money. Before the first tower fell on 9/11, I saw all this coming. I remember saying, sicking the world’s most powerful military on terrorists will be as successful as trying to kill gnats with a shotgun.
We’re gonna need more shells. Hey, how about a double barreled shotgun? With laser guided titanium buckshot? Now, hold still varmints! Sigh.

Indy Mark on October 2, 2006 at 5:39 PM

Ok for those that don’t seem to know, let’s get this out there:

FRIST IS RETIRING!!!!!!!!!!!

He has less than 3 months to go as Senate Majority Leader, and will no longer be Senator Frist after that.

thirteen28 on October 2, 2006 at 5:39 PM

Been saying for a couple of elections…

A Plaugue on both their houses…

I’m tired of voting against the one who would be worse.

Anyone know of somthing Like the Constitution party but without the Religious overtones?

Romeo13 on October 2, 2006 at 5:42 PM

Frist is retiring from the Senate, and clearly would never be elected POTUS.

JammieWearingFool on October 2, 2006 at 5:44 PM

Frist has been a boil on conservative butts for far too long. We need a real conservative leader in the Senate.

I look forward to listening to Frist try to dig himself out of this dung filled hole.

DannoJyd on October 2, 2006 at 5:44 PM

Yeah, I fell into that “educated voter…integrity..never wastes vote..” trap with Perot. My first time voting. I’ll never forget the lesson learned by helping Billy Jeffs keep his oral office.

Entelechy is right. We can’t screw around in times like these, especially when our outrage is based on “reporting” from most-likely corrupt sources trying, once again, to alter the outcome of an election.

Frist should know by now he has no chance at the presidency. I’m lucky my congress choices are cut and dry. My senators are super-glued to their seatsand I just vote against them, knowing it’s hopeless.

NTWR on October 2, 2006 at 5:47 PM

Done with the GOP? Fine.
I know who you’re against.
Now, where are you’re votes going?

Personally, I lost faith in the party decades ago.
I don’t like Frist, Spector, Snowe, McCain and more.
OTOH after Lieberman’s foreign policy the Donk pluses are…?

Again, where are you’re votes going?
Third party? Been looking for it for decades.
Whoever finds it, please post here.

Meantime, since there is no against vote, all those in favor of Pelosi, Leahey, Conyers, Bush’s impeachment, tax hikes, here’s your chance.

Sure it sucks.
Get in the game.
There’s no crying in hardball.

Stephen M on October 2, 2006 at 5:48 PM

I knew Frist had no backbone, but this is pathetic. We definitely need a new majority leader. (And Hastert’s not been much better). Why Frist thinks he has a snowball’s chance in ‘08 is beyond me.

CP on October 2, 2006 at 5:50 PM

Lott followed by Frist. The milktoast twins.

How about a pleasant change for those of us who still give a sh*t?

Can we please choose someone with a backbone to lead the Republicans in the Senate?

fogw on October 2, 2006 at 5:55 PM

John at Powerline’s probably feeling a bit sheepish right now.

There’s the update, but it’s not everything I was hoping for.

see-dubya on October 2, 2006 at 5:56 PM

I think Frist is just throwing some red meat to the media so they’ll kiss his a** as he retires, like they do McCain. Want to get popular with the libs as a GOP’er? Stick a knife in your party. He probably just wants some good press to go out with; wouldn’t want anyone to think he was in the senate when they confirmed a couple of conservative supreme court justices. He can join McCain and Lindsay Graham on my rapidly growing list of ‘RiNO Douches I despise’.

austinnelly on October 2, 2006 at 5:59 PM

What’s a “moderate Islamist”? Isn’t that oxymoronic? Sis he mean “moderate Muslims”?

see-dubya on October 2, 2006 at 6:01 PM

Dick Morris chimes in today;

Goodbye, Dr. Frist

If Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-TN, were still in his former occupation, he could well be sued by his 54 fellow Republicans, 99 senators, and the American people at large for malpractice… Frist performed about as well as a heart surgeon with mittens on. He failed utterly to provide the leadership necessary and managed to so mangle the reputation of the legislative wing of the Republican Party in the process that it may take several elections, and perhaps a Hillary Clinton presidency, to recover.

Is that what it’s going to take?

Terp Mole on October 2, 2006 at 6:09 PM

OK, for you supposed Dem voters forced into it out of anger at the Republicans:
97 Reasons Democrats Are Weak On Defense And Can’t Be Trusted To Govern In Wartime.

Now, if you can refute all 97 reasons, go ahead and vote for the Donks.

NTWR on October 2, 2006 at 6:09 PM

Frist is just following Bush’s lead in Iraq by kneeling to the RoP.

Valiant on October 2, 2006 at 6:11 PM

I’m with NTWR, so There! :oP~~~

DannoJyd on October 2, 2006 at 6:18 PM

The Republican gang in the Senate is so horrible. The few decent Senators stand out as oddballs.

Clark1 on October 2, 2006 at 6:34 PM

Frist isn’t running for re-election, is he?

Allahpundit on October 2, 2006 at 5:30 PM

No, he’s done. Harold Ford is running for that seat.

Kid from Brooklyn on October 2, 2006 at 6:37 PM

Let’s all take a cold shower (me too), calm down, and get behind NTWR and Danno.

Entelechy on October 2, 2006 at 6:50 PM

Frist isn’t running for re-election, is he?

Allahpundit on October 2, 2006 at 5:30 PM
No, he’s done. Harold Ford is running for that seat.

Kid from Brooklyn on October 2, 2006 at 6:37 PM

In Tennessee, Representative Harold Ford Jr., a Democrat, had 43 percent and former mayor Bob Corker of Chattanooga, the Republican Senate nominee, had 42 percent.

We need to rally for Bob Corker if that is the case.

Psycotte on October 2, 2006 at 7:06 PM

If you think there’s no difference between Republicans and Democrats on this issue, wait until Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are calling the legislative shots.

Frist is one voice, a pretty lone voice at that. He’s trying to burnish his foreign policy credentials ahead of his doomed 2008 Presidential bid. Instead he reinforces how little he understands, and how little he matters. He doesn’t speak for the President, he speaks for Bill Frist.

Ignore his babblings.

Martin on October 2, 2006 at 7:26 PM

Frist is one voice, a pretty lone voice at that.

He is Republican Senate Majority Leader.

As long as the GOP continues to endorse his views in that fashion, the GOP is dead to me.

Misha I on October 2, 2006 at 7:43 PM

Is he writing a book? about to be released??? Hopefully.

shooter on October 2, 2006 at 7:49 PM

We had already won in Afghanistan. Now we’re going to lose again??? I’m glad the current House/Senate was not in power during WWII, we never would have won the war against either Japan, Italy, or Germany.

Mojave Mark on October 2, 2006 at 8:22 PM

While I’m with a lot of you on wanting to be done with the GOP but the alternative is much more scarier. I don’t know what the heck is going on with these people. Is there something in the water that runs through the Capitol? I don’t understand what he thinks he’s doing. Also, who are the moderate Muslims we’re hearing about. I would like these people in Congress to understand they work for us but I believe they think it’s the other way around.

Catie96706 on October 2, 2006 at 8:31 PM

Look, Frist is an idiot but the Dems would be utterly disasterous. Lesser of two evils is accurate here to be sure, however we must keep focus especially during a close election.

These are dire times – we don’t have time for experimentation.

Same goes for your comment Bellicose Muse. I’m all for a 3rd party but for now, we’d just throw our votes into the wind. We’re in a global War on Terror.

As pissed off as we all are at the RINOs, we need to consider the ramifications of the lefties coming to power again. This time, I believe, they have a strategy to rig the game to never have give it up again if and when they get it back. It’s becoming clear to them that they cannot consistently fool the electorate into voting them into power in legitimate elections, so the rules of the game need to be changed, however possible. Through the courts they are determined to circumvent and sabotage the will of the people. Look at how they tried every possible legal maneuver to steal a very close election in 2000. Only Bush’s margin of victory in 2004 prevented another similar debacle. Look at the uproar in response to the recent election in Mexico. Something like that could very well happen here. The Left is getting more and more pissed off about not being in power and they will try every trick in the book to get it back and then keep it. Big money on the left and crooked orgs like the ACLU are determined to do whatever it takes, and they don’t give a shit about ethics, morals, or the will of the people. Morons like Frist and McCain drive us crazy, but if the Left comes to power again they will drive us to destruction.

speed647 on October 2, 2006 at 8:47 PM

It worked so well in Iraq with that al Sadr fellow….yeah, let’s bring the Taliban in.

Alan on October 2, 2006 at 8:55 PM

Entelechy said:

These are dire times – we don’t have time for experimentation.

I agree. I was wrong too. I honestly thought(despite the Schiavo and Immigration fiascos) that Frist had LEARNED. Quite obviously he hasnt. It doesnt make any difference, he has the money and the EGO and he WILL run for President. And we can all not vote for him.

Between the Foley thing and now this, are the Republicans TRYING to throw the election? *sigh*

The posts above about that region of the World not being ready for democracy. Tell that to the people who risked their lives to get their fingers dyed purple.
It looks dire..it IS dire but it ISNT hopeless.

labwrs on October 2, 2006 at 9:24 PM

Entelechy is another one who gets it:

Already the commenters follow you 3 (The Commissar, Ace and AP) – if you erroneaously influence enough voters on the right, then you will deserve Pelosi & Co. and all they will bring. You haven’t seen nihilism yet. I almost wish that you ‘win’, by losing, so I can see you ’suffer’ for the next few years. But I can’t be that savage, for the sake of this country and the free world, as we still know it to be.

These are serious times, which deserve more seriousness, aside from the fact that I also never liked the measly Mr. Frist.

By the way folks, are we entirely sure that this isn’t some Rove plot we don’t quite understand that will flip and cause the GOP to sweep the election? Same with the Foley situation, definite VRWC.

RightWinged on October 2, 2006 at 9:52 PM

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