Senate approves House bill to build 700-mile border fence

posted at 11:00 pm on September 29, 2006 by Allahpundit

Here’s the roll. Only one Republican crossed the aisle. Guess who.

They outlaid $1.2 billion for it in the domestic security bill that passed earlier today. No word on when, or whether, construction will start.

Says the boss: who cares?


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Says the boss: who cares?

Ah–but morale, morale! All she says is true but after the bipartisan, media-and-goverment consensus that the Senate bill was the compromise, and that there’s no point to doing anything unless we simultaneously pass an amnesty and ratchet up guest worker visas, this is a nice sign that the people’s pressure really is starting to be strong enough to outmatch the open borders conensus among the ruling class. I for one haven’t been feeling so confident. This is the first vivid sign I’ve seen that things are changing.

Alex K on September 29, 2006 at 11:20 PM

Only one Republican crossed the aisle. Guess who.

Ann was right about him.

speed647 on September 29, 2006 at 11:45 PM

Only 700 miles?

SouthernGent on September 30, 2006 at 12:06 AM

Why oh why would our elected government be so backward on an issue that infuriates nearly every other American that takes a close look?
Could it be power, control and all that stuff?
Naaah

Speakup on September 30, 2006 at 12:18 AM

Why oh why would our elected government be so backward on an issue that infuriates nearly every other American that takes a close look?

I’m not sure I understand what you’re saying exactly, but in my circles everyone’s pretty much for it. I’m no bigwig, but I’m fairly well connected in the family. Those I know not for it are far from “infuriated”. They just think the money could be better spent on more man power and equipment on the border first, then the fence. Now as far as the suggested amnesty for 12 million illegal aliens… THAT’S infuriating!

Good fences make good neighbors, especially if you’re neighbor has two faces and speaks with a forked tongue.

SilverStar830 on September 30, 2006 at 12:55 AM

Sen. Lieberman in the “Nay” category…

Entelechy on September 30, 2006 at 1:11 AM

What I’m saying is that to think Democrats want immigrants for votes and Republicans want them for cheap labor for political sponsors is true.
But to think these are the only reasons is naive.
The government’s position is more power and more control over our lives is good, the “natural progress” as outlined by the Founders is to usurp the power of the people and placed mechanisms in the way of such usurpations.
Mass migrations of third world people are the perfect tool by which to dilute and nullify our voice and our ability to control our own governmental affairs.
A 700 mile fence even if it’s built isn’t even a spit in the bucket compared to many many layers of loopholes and protections afforded by our own government against and to usurp our will.
For a power mongering government, integrating millions upon millions of people used to being knaves it’s a win, win, win, situation.
If we allow it.

Speakup on September 30, 2006 at 1:29 AM

Clinton a “Yea”–live in fear, folks, she’s viable!

Alex K on September 30, 2006 at 1:31 AM

700 miles down… 1300 miles to go. :-)

Mojave Mark on September 30, 2006 at 1:34 AM

It’s important for Americans to stand firm against colonization, whether of the muslim or the Mexican variety. The Americans, whose ancestors so thoroughly displaced the American “Indians,” should know what happens to a native people who are overrun by colonial powers.

But a fence alone can’t provide sufficient security; after all, a fence can be torn down or its gates can very simply be opened wide with changing fashion. One source of the British colonial expansion’s vigor was a British population boom resulting from improved infant health and lower mortality. Now that the relative advantage in fertility and population growth has been reversed, the colonial pressure in both Great Britain and her former colony has been reversed, as well. Americans can go on throwing their money at elder care, but it amounts to a decision to leave the earth to others. Young people–theirs or someone else’s–will inherit the land, of necessity.

Kralizec on September 30, 2006 at 1:57 AM

You still call him a Republican?

bdfaith on September 30, 2006 at 1:58 AM

While I almost totally agree with Michelle [sowwy doll], it appears that someone is wrong about the fence having funding, and even though it isn’t everything I had hoped for [no increased fines for businesses hiring ILLEGALS], it isn’t the origional lousy Senate Amnesty Bill. Keeping that from being passed was #1 on my list of blasting the Senators in the e-mails I sent them.

This bill would work fine as is if someone would just enforce the [explitive] existing laws, and target businesses hiring these criminals. Then the fines collected could be earmarked for funding the efforts to enforce the laws. IMHO, if you cut off the cash flow to the law breakers then you give them reason to leave on their own. That would mean they would move out of the country unassisted, and save the taxpayer a bundle. Heck, they might even learn a lesson, or 2.

Ok. I know my idea is too simplistic to work as no congress would allow my common sense idea to go untouched. I do realize that a mouse, built to government specification, is an ELEPHANT, but perhaps it is finally time to give common sense a try?
PLEASE!?!?

DannoJyd on September 30, 2006 at 2:10 AM

A small thank you to Tancredo. Its been a very tough fight…SO FAR.

And keep going Tom, keep going. We got your back.

shooter on September 30, 2006 at 10:16 AM

Mexicans have a fond saying, “Poor Mexico – so far from God, so close to the United States.” Well, I think they’re beginning to get a little taste of what we Gringos think about having to live next to Mexico.

700 miles is a good beginning; but with Mexico, I’d say “Good walls make good neighbors.” When we’ve built up enough of a barrier that the average Juan thinks to himself, “With only half the effort it’d take to get over, under, or through that wall, I could make a pretty good living for myself right here in Mexico,” then I’d say we’ve reached an appropriate level of border relations with our southern neighbor.

Spurius Ligustinus on September 30, 2006 at 3:16 PM

$1,200,000,000 divided by 700 equals $1,714,285 per mile

We already have funds to police the border

The Minutemen are building a fence on rancher property at cost of $55,000,000 for 70 miles

55,000,000 / 70 = $785,714

Since they are using volunteers that eliminates some labor cost. However they are building the Israeli design fence which is created to keep people out.

I assume the Senate would build the Senate designed fence, which would blow smoke on voters and let illegals continue.

I received an email [hoto from the Minutemen of what some of our military (remember them)is doing on the border: pouring cement roadway ‘washout slabs’ that as far as I can tell, make it less muddy to cross during a rain.

entagor on October 1, 2006 at 1:31 PM

Well… 700 miles is a start… now we need to security fence the rest of it. Something nice like a double fence, 15 feet high, razor wire, with like 30 feet between… oh and mines… lots and lots of mines. Ooh towers… and sharpshooters….

and one big sign in spanish… “Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again”

E L Frederick on October 2, 2006 at 7:51 AM

Waking to a surreal day…listening to the news…they said yes to the fence…THEY DID WHAT!!!…

Now we need guard towers, populated by the convicts of all 50 states, armed w/sniper rifles, mines, dogs, we don’t need to hire border guards, we’ll get them w/o paying salaries, just transportation to the border. Shoot to kill.

tormod on October 2, 2006 at 10:38 AM

Let’s say you’re at a picnic and there is an open jar of honey on the picnic table. Ants keep running over everything to get to the honey. Do you throw up a fence or do you close the jar of honey?

This is such a cynical move it really takes my breath away. Minus measures to severely punish the businesses that hire illegals, it’s all smoke. Unfortunately there are a lot of people/voters. who are easily fooled.

honora on October 2, 2006 at 1:32 PM

True, honora. This is mostly just to get us pacified. BUT, at least it’s SOMETHING besides amnesty.

We can’t stop hammering our elected officials until the jar of honey is CLOSED. Employee verification system, huge fines for hiring illegals, abolishing the 14th amendment, some forced way of pay for ER and other health services, no more in-state-tuition for ILLEGAL ALIENS, deportation of illegal criminals, etc, etc…

We need to keep the people educated as to how the illegals negatively impact our communities. I think a bill should be passed required news outlets to state the citizenship status of every alleged criminal as they broadcast the crime.

NTWR on October 2, 2006 at 2:21 PM

uh, *requiring*, that is.

NTWR on October 2, 2006 at 2:22 PM