Breaking: Mark Foley (R-FL) to quit House over child-sex rumors; Update: IMs revealed

posted at 3:12 pm on September 29, 2006 by Allahpundit

I almost posted on this yesterday but didn’t want to float something when it was still unsubstantiated. The original report quoted a 16-year-old Congressional page as being “freaked out” when Foley chatted him up over e-mail and requested a photo. Sounded reasonably innocuous to me.

It’s sounding a little less innocuous now:

A spokesman for Foley, the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children, said the congressman submitted his resignation in a letter late this afternoon to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert.

Hours earlier, ABC News had read excerpts of instant messages provided by former pages who said the congressman, under the AOL Instant Messenger screen name Maf54, made repeated references to sexual organs and acts.

That’s another pickup for the Dems in the House. Can’t say I’m sorry about this one.

Update: Among Foley’s signature legislative accomplishments:

Mark also has worked closely with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and John Walsh (host of Fox TV’s America’s Most Wanted) on a variety of child protection programs. Among the latest of these is a program designed to show children how to protect themselves from online predators.

Update: ABC has published some of the instant messages allegedly sent by Foley to former Congressional pages. They are … not innocuous.

Update: Oy. Apparently under Florida law his name has to stay on the ballot.


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All right, I had started to defend him against the Scandal Machine in the comments at Ace’s, but I will just say good riddance.

see-dubya on September 29, 2006 at 3:18 PM

.. chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children.. ?

also a member of the RMSP..

ouch.

normsrevenge on September 29, 2006 at 3:18 PM

BUH-bye ya freak. We don’t need people like that on EITHER side of the aisle. The Dems will attack this guy, as they should, and so will we, BUT, had he been a Dem, they would’ve circled the wagons around him.

Also in Florida, some asshole shoots two cops and I thought “That bastard, I hope they catch him.” But then it came out that he shot a police dog and my thoughts became “They better KILL that &*#@ing son of a &*#$@ damn @&+*!!!”

Tony737 on September 29, 2006 at 3:19 PM

I was reading about this last night, and it struck me as creepy he ws using an AOL account, and asking for a photo of a kid who didn’t even work for him.

Any reaction from Barney Frank? He had a little thing going some years ago, and it only enhanced his stature with the Democrats.

JammieWearingFool on September 29, 2006 at 3:20 PM

” … Foley, the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children …”

This is going to hurt come November, but we’ve gotta’ purge guys like this, regardless of the consequences. He’s a predator, and that’s just not right. Damn.

Blacksheep on September 29, 2006 at 3:20 PM

The irony is he is Co-Chairman of the Missing and Exploited Childrens Caucus. He did a lot of work against child pornography. His lifetime ACU rating is 78. If he crossed the line, he has to go.

Valiant on September 29, 2006 at 3:25 PM

I hope he gets major jail time for this, if he’s found guilty.

Pulchritudinous Patriot on September 29, 2006 at 3:26 PM

Sounds fishy to me. Hard to believe a guy with that much to lose would be so stupid. A page? Working at the Capital? We shall see.

Shmo on September 29, 2006 at 3:33 PM

Part and parcel for the Inside-the-Beltway Congress. They are NOT above it all!

SouthernGent on September 29, 2006 at 3:33 PM

Well, I think Foley is set for life. Now he’ll get a book deal and appear on Oprah.

GT on September 29, 2006 at 3:34 PM

Clearly some of you should pray for the gift of spiritual discernment, I have seen the homosexual spirit in Foley’s eyes for years. It’s amazing to me, I would watch him on the chats and say to myself, “How is this guy a Republican? He’s clearly gay!” No surprise here, folks. Good riddance, to bad rubbish.

Soothsayer on September 29, 2006 at 3:35 PM

Clearly some of you should pray for the gift of spiritual discernment, I have seen the homosexual spirit in Foley’s eyes for years.

My wife calls it “Gaydar”.

Kid from Brooklyn on September 29, 2006 at 3:40 PM

If it was “innocent and appropriate” communications, he wouldn’t have resigned as soon as the shoe dropped. He’s toast. I just wonder how bad it really was. I guess we’ll find out soon enough. Then most likely comes the parade of other ‘victims’ and people who will claim he’s done something to them as well.

He was a favorite for re-election too. Damn.

SilverStar830 on September 29, 2006 at 3:41 PM

I would watch him on the chats and say to myself, “How is this guy a Republican? He’s clearly gay!”

I’m gay and also a Republican. I don’t think they are diametrically opposing things. :-)

(But I’m an AMERICAN before anything else) ;-)

SouthernGent on September 29, 2006 at 3:42 PM

I wonder if he’ll get fawning media treatment and a book deal like McGreevey?

JammieWearingFool on September 29, 2006 at 3:42 PM

Also in Florida, some asshole shoots two cops and I thought “That bastard, I hope they catch him.” But then it came out that he shot a police dog and my thoughts became “They better KILL that &*#@ing son of a &*#$@ damn @&+*!!!”

Tony737 on September 29, 2006 at 3:19 PM

They did, Tony. God Bless Florida Statute 766.

Kid from Brooklyn on September 29, 2006 at 3:44 PM

I would watch him on the chats and say to myself, “How is this guy a Republican? He’s clearly gay!”

Cf.

Log Cabin Republicanscomprises thousands of members and over 68 local chapters across the United States, all working to ensure an inclusive and fair Republican Party. We are like-minded Americans who believe in limited government, a strong national defense, lower taxes, personal responsibility and free markets.”

We’re all in this together, Soothsayer.

Blacksheep on September 29, 2006 at 3:50 PM

Where it will hurt is once the Dems start the drumbeat of “The Culture of Corruption” again. They gain this seat but they will use it to tar every Repub running for office.

LakeRuins on September 29, 2006 at 3:50 PM

He was just trying to teach the young lad a musical instru….. Oh! “Sex Organ” What a scumbag!

Drtuddle on September 29, 2006 at 3:52 PM

Rumors had circulated years ago that he is gay.

doingwhatican on September 29, 2006 at 3:52 PM

I dont care if he or anyone else is gay. I DO care when children are being solicited. If this is true, he needs to be prosecuted, disgraced, run out of town on a rail.

labwrs on September 29, 2006 at 3:58 PM

He was just trying to teach the young lad a musical instru….. Oh! “Sex Organ” What a scumbag!

Drtuddle on September 29, 2006 at 3:52 PM

Unbeknownst to the Congressman, the “skin flute” is not regarded as a musical instrument outside the Beltway.

Kid from Brooklyn on September 29, 2006 at 3:59 PM

Uh, there is a big distinction between being gay and a pedophile. Foley seems to be the later. If he was merely gay and hitting on other consenting adults, this wouldn’t be an issue.

Bob Owens on September 29, 2006 at 3:59 PM

“My truth is that I am a pedophiliac American.”

Niko on September 29, 2006 at 4:02 PM

I’m sure the democrats/nutroots will say this is all Bush’s fault. Let me guess here and say that THEY will say if Bush wasn’t against gay marriage then Foley could’ve been out and proud.

Any bets?

SouthernGent on September 29, 2006 at 4:05 PM

Bob O and the others are right, pedophiles have a proclivity for male or female, but the difference is moot in that they are scum. I have no problem what adults choose to do with each other in their own privacy,but children are off limits,period. So the fact that this guy appears to have gone after under age males as opposed to females should not say anything about gays who follow the rules so to speak.

bbz123 on September 29, 2006 at 4:06 PM

FOX GUARDING THE HEN HOUSE!

Boot the perv!

venmax on September 29, 2006 at 4:10 PM

I dont care if he or anyone else is gay. I DO care when children are being solicited. If this is true, he needs to be prosecuted, disgraced, run out of town on a rail.

He’s not going to get prosecuted if 1) he didn’t attempt to get anything physical going and 2) everybody is 16 or over.

But unlike the Dems, his party won’t get warm and fuzzy with him. They’ll drop him like a hot rock, as they should, and which he apparently already understands.

Pablo on September 29, 2006 at 4:12 PM

I’m sure the democrats/nutroots will say this is all Bush’s fault. Let me guess here and say that THEY will say if Bush wasn’t against gay marriage then Foley could’ve been out and proud.

Any bets?

SouthernGent on September 29, 2006 at 4:05 PM

I don’t know about all that. Libs largely portray gays as an oppressed minority, no? I don’t see how it would be in their best interest to have a bonafide, out-of-the-closet Log Cabin congressman opposing them 78% of the time.

Kid from Brooklyn on September 29, 2006 at 4:14 PM

Well, Crud.

But at least he isn’t hanging on with protestations of “I did not want to have sex with that Intern…” and arguing what the meaning of IS is.

LegendHasIt on September 29, 2006 at 4:16 PM

Too bad his name isn’t Debra LeFavre. Regardless a pedophile is a pedophile and if this is indeed the case then he is deserving of every bit of wrath and indignation that comes his way. Personally I will hold my fire for just a bit until more FACTS are known, which means we can’t depend on the antique media.

LakeRuins on September 29, 2006 at 4:17 PM

Go directly to jail
do pass the ACLU
do collect your representation at taxpayer expense
do not feel any guilt

Defector01 on September 29, 2006 at 4:24 PM

This is how bad things have gotten: I no longer am surprised or (I am ashamed to admit) can even muster that much outrage when I hear this kind of stuff about politicians. My first thought: how dumb do you have to be send IMs like this.

Such a low bar huh?

honora on September 29, 2006 at 4:30 PM

Michael Medved once said that one of the main attractions of politicial office is the sex–I guess lots of people willing to put out for a congressman or senator or deputy undersecretary. I guess it must really build the ol’ confidence and help weaselly nerdy guys score.

What I can’t see is the attraction of going into office and putting yourself under this kind of a spotlight if you’ve got some weird tastes like this guy did.

see-dubya on September 29, 2006 at 4:47 PM

Michael Medved once said that one of the main attractions of politicial office is the sex–I guess lots of people willing to put out for a congressman or senator or deputy undersecretary. I guess it must really build the ol’ confidence and help weaselly nerdy guys score.

What I can’t see is the attraction of going into office and putting yourself under this kind of a spotlight if you’ve got some weird tastes like this guy did.

see-dubya on September 29, 2006 at 4:47 PM

You know what they say: politics is show business for ugly people! ;^)

honora on September 29, 2006 at 4:55 PM

I’m gay and also a Republican. I don’t think they are diametrically opposing things. :-)

(But I’m an AMERICAN before anything else) ;-)

Way to speak up SouthernGent! True to his username, he politely reminds us all that the Republican party is the real party of inclusion in the United States.

ITmonkey on September 29, 2006 at 4:56 PM

This is despicable. I could care less about his sevual orientation, but any congressman making advances toward a 16 year of any sex is ridiculous.

I am curious, however, about how long ABC had this story and held it. Did they hold until which time a replacement could not be placed on the ballot? I hate to be so cynical, but….

bopbottle on September 29, 2006 at 4:59 PM

Hypocrisy on both isles:

The Right – gays predominate on the Left, are promiscuous, and aren’t born that way…we don’t have any in our families…
The Left – we are for gays all the way, we love them and want 100% equal rights for them, unless they are Republicans…

I had a conservative boss years ago, who’s son is gay. We all knew this, except the dad didn’t yet. The father made numerous jokes about gays and lesbians hanging around his kid…years later I received a x-mas letter from the mother describing the life- and living-relationship of her son with his male friend, who’s now an adorable part of the family. Never heard another joke from the father either.

Both sides should sweep in front of their own doors on this or other matters.

Of course, the hypocrisy of the media, some of which is gay, will surpass all other.

And not to forget my adorable grandmother who always said “girls, watch out for those men, their minds are most of the time in their schwan–s”.

Agree with others who said that the Right will make short-shrift of him, when as the Left would make excuses and he’d still be in place and voted back in.

You know what they say: politics is show business for ugly people! ;^)

honora on September 29, 2006 at 4:55 PM

honora, great – I was about to remind us that if the walls in the Capitol building, or others in Wash. D.C. could talk, it would be a scream, not dissimilar to Hollywood, or the perception thereof. They forget that today they’re scrutinized 100% – slow learners…

Entelechy on September 29, 2006 at 5:07 PM

Are we to believe the worst of Mr. Foley reflexively – based on insinuations in the MSM? They have earned reflexive skepticism from me! Right now it’s just an allegation – by Brian Ross – whose record includes going after Delay and Hastert.

And the timing: Alleged Emails: Aug05, Story: Sept06. Stinkeee!

And consider too that Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) is involved – which “identifies itself as progressive and works in concert with other left-leaning non-profits inside the Beltway” -wikipedia.

Mr. Foley may have resigned to help limit the damage to the GOP. I’m going to have to see some evidence to conclude that he is guilty.

RushBaby on September 29, 2006 at 5:54 PM

Slow reveal of the content of the IM’s….doesn’t look at all good for Foley.

Fox News just stated some findings “not suitable” to air.

doingwhatican on September 29, 2006 at 7:23 PM

I live in Lake Worth, the home of mark foley before moving north to live in his 16th Congressional district. If you were here for more than 4 years or so, you found out things like he’s gay. Picking partners like Matt Laurer is personal, he’s an adult, and can make his own decisions, but this is especially damning in the fact that foley wrote legislation to prevent the very thing that happened.

Let the full weight of the law fall on him, he needs to be an example of what you get for betraying the trust and we must hold our politicians to a higher standard or we all lose.

tormod on September 29, 2006 at 7:29 PM

Talk about a balanced perv ratio!

Entelechy on September 29, 2006 at 7:48 PM

There goes Bob Woodward’s spotlight.

doingwhatican on September 29, 2006 at 7:51 PM

Somebody should start a pool as to how much a percentage of the vote this guy gets, since he has to stay on the ballot.

Mark V. on September 29, 2006 at 7:52 PM

Well, at least he’s got the perverted-old-guy pedophile vote sewn up.

And in Florida, who knows how many votes that is.

I keed!! I keed!!

Tman on September 29, 2006 at 7:52 PM

Old but gold:

Riddle: Why don’t Congressmen use’  bookmarks?
A: They’d rather just bend over the pages.

bdfaith on September 29, 2006 at 9:22 PM

Haysoos! Talk about the Wolf guarding the hen house. As far as I’m concerned, he should just eat a gun right now and save the tax payers all that money it’s going to cost to fully investigate and, I hope, prosecute this if he violated laws… which could then go towards reinforcing protections for our children from online pedophilic sick f***s like him.

I’m sooo disgusted by this… ugh

SilverStar830 on September 30, 2006 at 1:19 AM

ABC released a PDF of another IM messaging session with yet another Page. As I predicted, they’re coming out of the woodwork. This one’s from 2003 according to ABC.

Per ABC: Exclusive 2003 Internet exchange between Congressman Foley and a former congressional page, according to the young man. Warning: sexually explicit language, reader discretion advised.

Aaaand that’s about enough for me. I’ll leave the rest up to the officials charged with investigating this. I don’t need to see anymore of this crap. And to think Foley helped write some of the laws that are supposed to protect children from this sort of behavior, as Co-Chairman of the Missing & Exploited Children Caucus no less.

SilverStar830 on September 30, 2006 at 2:24 AM

Maybe all this Missing & Exploited Children stuff was just to ease his guilty conscience.

Kid, thanks, I saw it on FOX where they shot and killed that f-in’ copkiller. That’s the good news, the bad news is that one of the cops also died. I hate to sound too harsh, but when you shoot a cop, you die. And when you shoot a police DOG, you burn in the hottest depths of hell for eternity with hundreds of demon dogs tearing at your flesh as you scream in pain!

Uh, sorry, got a little carried away there. Anyway, BUH-bye Mark Foley, ya freak.

Tony737 on September 30, 2006 at 9:10 AM

There goes Bob Woodward’s spotlight.

doingwhatican on September 29, 2006 at 7:51 PM

Moral victory for the media. The trivial is so easily discernable.

On second thought, there is nothing trivial about Foley’s forays with an under-aged kid. Foley can rot in whatever place he ends up in now.

On the other hand, according to the .pdf file provided by SilverStar830, two comments above, the ‘kid’ doesn’t look like he cut it off right away, or like he didn’t want more of the same… He sensed ‘political gold’ right away, which he sat on since 2003. Path to fame and influence in Washington.

“We’ve become a nation of jackasses” — honora. Yes, we have: our politicians, our media and many of our citizens, sadly.

The fool (and possibly criminal) is Foley. The victims are all of us.

Entelechy on September 30, 2006 at 10:56 AM

I hope they do the legal equivalent of drawing and quartering to this bastard.

Also, I leave you with two quotes, one from the comments on that article, the other is the explanation for it.

‘C’mon Repubs…let’s see a defense!
“Uh, Clinton was worse”?
LOL…you guys define hypocrisy’
Posted by: gee | Sep 29, 2006 6:18:33 PM

‘He that accuses all mankind of corruption ought to remember that he is sure to convict only one.’
– Edmund Burke

Wolfman on September 30, 2006 at 1:08 PM

Its hilarious that libs and Dems both are demanding a defense from republicans and replying how hypocrticial republicans are for going after Clinton

If you ever wanted proof that some people don’t get it, there it is in black and white

Some damn things are indefensable

Defector01 on September 30, 2006 at 2:41 PM

’m gay and also a Republican. I don’t think they are diametrically opposing things. :-)
SouthernGent on September 29, 2006 at 3:42 PM

Way to speak up SouthernGent! True to his username, he politely reminds us all that the Republican party is the real party of inclusion in the United States.
ITmonkey on September 29, 2006 at 4:56 PM

What Republican Party are you looking at? The Republican party is AGAINST the expansion of homosexual rights and most of it’s members believe such behaviour to be against the will of God. You are quite correct that you, as an American are quite free to join any group that will have you. But why would you join a group that doesn’t want you? One in which your “right” to marry will NEVER be recognized as well as many other so-called rights attendant to such behaviour.

Soothsayer on September 30, 2006 at 11:46 PM

I question the timing. And I accuse the Democrats of false outrage and hypocrisy.

See: http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2006/09/30/foley-setup/

and

http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/09/30/foley-matter-proves-republicans-support-perverts/

Irrespective of the fact that I strongly disapprove Foley’s actions, there is something else to be said about this incident: Most of you Republican/conservatives posting are being FLUMOXED and stampeded by a STAGED POLITICAL EVENT.

It appears that the MEDIA had the story in 2005 and sat on it until now, in order to save it for the maximum damage against the Republicans, less than 40 days before an election.

My indignation about Foley (which is considerable) is tempered by the fact that THE DEMOCRATIC/LEFTIST MEDIA DELIBERATELY ALLOWED THE PERPATRATOR CONTINUE HIS ACTIONS FOR A YEAR FOR PARTISAN POLITICAL PURPOSES. Only now, are they publishing the story.

Therefore most of my anger is reserved for DEMOCRATS for allowing a child to remain in danger for a year in order to score political points this November.

This REALLY pisses me off. If the DEMOCRATS gave a *SHIT* about anything except taking over the government, THIS STORY WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE NEWS A YEAR AGO!

And a child would not have been subjected to Foley’s “attentions” for another year.

Yes. This story NEEDED to be told and Foley needed to go. BUT LAST YEAR. When the media found out about it.

georgej on October 1, 2006 at 6:41 AM

georgej, we’re totally with you. The story is unfolding exactly like you stated, above. Let’s see if our ‘objective’ media portray it that way. I’m not betting on it. Thanks for your passion on this and other posts,

Entelechy on October 1, 2006 at 3:29 PM

“Log Cabin Republicanscomprises thousands of members and over 68 local chapters across the United States, all working to ensure an inclusive and fair Republican Party. We are like-minded Americans who believe in limited government, a strong national defense, lower taxes, personal responsibility and free markets.”
We’re all in this together, Soothsayer.
Blacksheep on September 29, 2006 at 3:50 PM

First of all WE are not in ANYTHING toghether, baby. I am NOT a Republican. The reason that I resigned from the Republican party are manifold. The inclusion of “LOG CABIN” homosexuals, is one. I thought this was a Christian party, but I find most of the so-called Christians within it to be almost wilfully ignorant of their own BIBLE! IMHO To align yourself with sodomites will be the end of you as a party, for they seek incremental change and the erosion of your “standards”, only an idiot would refute this. The Log Cabin Republicans have stated that their goal is to “change the hearts and minds of the Republican party” as it relates to the acceptance of homosexuality. ‘Nuff said. I am NOT a Republican because I am a WINNER, not a WHINER, there is a difference. I do not reach out in friendship to truce breakers, liars and subverters (otherwise known as Democrats), I thought you might have learned when Trent Lott’s “powersharing” with the Dems was defecated on, but you didn’t. Denny Hasterts instant defense of Congressman “COLDCASH” Jefferson was the HEIGHT OF STUPIDITY! Name ONE time a liberal DEFENDED A CONSERVATIVE who was in trouble! The silence is deafening.

Comity that only works ONE WAY is another name for BEING A DUMBASS. President’s Bush’s desire to put his grandmom on the Supreme Court, after religious conservatives waited YEARS for an opening on that court was another nail in my “republican coffin”. MUSLIMS manning our ports was another, the failure to close the borders is in my opinion, an impeachable offense that I would happily vote for. But now you people who CLAIM, without any proof, (i,e, spiritual gifts, tongues, miracles, etc) whatsoever mind you, to be Christian, openly support ABOMINATION?!!! A POX ON YOU AND YOUR HOUSE.

Leviticus 18:22 (King James Version)
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. ANY QUESTIONS? How about this one….
1Corinthians 6:9-11 NIV
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral (heterosexual fornicators) nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

For those of a “liberal”, love the sinner hate the sin, mindset, (which is from satan not Jesus), YOU WERE WARNED not to keep company with such folk. I wonder why you think you were warned against such a liberal tendency?

1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a FORNICATOR (includes homosexuals obviously) , or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one NO NOT TO EAT.

Ummmm if you weren’t even supposed to EAT with a Fornicator or homosexual, what would the excuse be for welcoming them into your party and allowing them to subvert your will? In being charitable, as I am known to be, lol, I will attribute your errors to ignorance. So allow me to explain, what homosexuality is, why people are homosexual and what the penalties for accepting same are….. EXHIBIT A…..ROMANS 1

18. The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
19. since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
20. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
23. and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.

24. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
25. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
27. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion (AIDS and other diseases!).

28. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a DEPRAVED MIND, to do what ought not to be done.
29. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
30. slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
31. they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things BUT ALSO APPROVE OF THOSE WHO PRACTICE THEM ( so, you see, your “big tent” for homosexuals is problematic for you in the eyes of God.)

Soothsayer on October 2, 2006 at 3:19 PM