Webb’s friend tells WaPo he used the N-word, too

posted at 10:29 am on September 28, 2006 by Allahpundit

Two conclusions can be safely drawn at this point:

1. All southerners have used the N-word.
2. Notwithstanding the first conclusion, no southerners are actually racist! Except for maybe a few older guys in Mississippi.

Whatever.

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But has Webb yet admitted he’s a Jew?

frankj on September 28, 2006 at 10:37 AM

I once called my twin brother a cracker…there goes my political career.

StoutRepublican on September 28, 2006 at 10:39 AM

Er … and your point?

Anwyn on September 28, 2006 at 10:46 AM

My Dad can beat your Dad!

Do we have to be treated to this child-like behavior during every election cycle?

How many more days are left before election day?

It can’t come soon enough. Arrrrgh.

fogw on September 28, 2006 at 10:50 AM

But has Webb yet admitted he’s a Jew?

I’m not sure why it matters? Why does a candidate have to announce that he’s a Jew?

Has Hillary admitted she’s a lesbian?

Gregor on September 28, 2006 at 11:00 AM

Has Hillary admitted she’s a lesbian?

Oh snap!

RightWinged on September 28, 2006 at 11:06 AM

My, this is getting tedious.

This just in: The rug on Jim Webb’s head has admitted using the N-word. Picked it up from a Chris Rock video.

JammieWearingFool on September 28, 2006 at 11:09 AM

BTW, who is running the Webb campaign? It seems to me this is all a preemptive strike on Allen for 2008, and I have no doubt it’s all coming from the Clintons. Speaking of those people, has anyone seen Craig Livingstone and those 1000 FBI files?

JammieWearingFool on September 28, 2006 at 11:14 AM

Alright Allah. Been a while since I’ve posted here, but you just pulled one out of me. I’m not really sure what your intentions are, but unfortunately, in the absence on knowing that they’re harmless, I have to assume the alternative. First the post about Southern bloggers, which I also don’t understand and haven’t seen a response to the posted questions for clarification, and now this.
That man in the picture there should be considered nothing short of a war criminal on this side of the Mason Dixon. I am not amused by seeing it here. You would be better served by showing a picture of Stonewall Jackson, a man who led by example, was honorable to those he engaged on the field and to the citizenry he encountered along the way, AND had the utmost respect for blacks. Anyone realize that he started and taught a Sunday school class for blacks in his home town?
I’m so freaking tired of this racism crap. Guess what – I’ve used the N-word many times…until one day in high school when I used it in front of FRIEND of mine who was black. To me, it had always been only a southern perversion of the word Negro. When he made it clear to me how offensive it was to him, I stopped using it. Am I a racist, too? Apologetic crap!
This is the Dhimmicrats most powerful tool to keep the black “race” under their thumbs. Just keep yelling about how all GOP’ers are bigots. Sadly, just as the freed slaves found NO open arms in the victorious North after the war, their predecesors will find no one who honestly cares in the nutroots brigade.
Michael
“In my tent last night, after a fatiguing day’s service, I remembered that I failed to send a contribution for our colored Sunday school. Enclosed you will find a check for that object, which please acknowledge at your earliest convenience and oblige yours faithfully.” (Lt. General Thomas Jackson, in a letter to his Pastor)

y2church on September 28, 2006 at 11:22 AM

That man in the picture there should be considered nothing short of a war criminal on this side of the Mason Dixon. I am not amused by seeing it here.

Back atcha!

Damn it feels good to be a Yankee.

Allahpundit on September 28, 2006 at 11:26 AM

Has Hillary admitted she’s a lesbian?

Shhhhh! That’s her October Surprise for ’08!

Pablo on September 28, 2006 at 11:28 AM

A real Yankee ass what? plays his cards right.

Karol on September 28, 2006 at 11:34 AM

Ouch. Of course we have our racists, as does every section of the country. But accusations of racism that pop up repeatedly each election cycle, five weeks before the election, seem to me to require a good helping of skepticism.

It’s not so hard for me to believe that these men said dumb, racist things in college and, have since learned they were dumb and racist and rectified, not only their behavior, but their attitudes. Both of them have had pretty distinguished careers since those days that seem to reflect that.

If that kind of change weren’t possible, the South would be a sad, sad place indeed. It is not that place, and for me, it’s an actual, literal crying shame that this stupid race has served to paint the South into the grimacing, twanging, growling, spittin’ caricature all good Southerners have worked so hard to refute our whole lives.

Who knows. Maybe I shoulda never written about it. I probably exacerbated exactly what bugs me about this.

marykatharine on September 28, 2006 at 11:41 AM

it’s an actual, literal crying shame that this stupid race has served to paint the South into the grimacing, twanging, growling, spittin’ caricature all good Southerners have worked so hard to refute our whole lives.

so true. try refuting the caricature of being a southerner AND a Texan. it’s double-duty. I grew up in Houston and was actually asked one time from a guy who lived in NY if I had an oil well and tumbleweeds in my backyard. He got all his information about Texas from JR on “Dallas.”

Everyone has made mistakes – in college especially. I believe Webb and Allen made the comments. But it was 30 years ago. move on. people change as they grow up, usually for the better.

pullingmyhairout on September 28, 2006 at 11:52 AM

What is the N-Word?

Wade on September 28, 2006 at 11:54 AM

Nancyboy.

Kevin M on September 28, 2006 at 11:59 AM

Oh, is that Sherman?

When my brother went to The Citadel, he claimed he’d tell people that was his favorite general of the Civil War when asked.

And, being it was the South, they did ask.

frankj on September 28, 2006 at 12:20 PM

The article that AllahPundit linked is called Sherman’s War. AP used it as a *snap!*, but the article brings up very good points about what the nature of war is, and to what extent brutality can be both a mercy and a neccesity.

A couple of months ago, during the Israeli Hezbollah war, AP took note of a serious of reversals for the west, and stated that we needed a victory. My question at the time was whether he, and by implication, all of us had the stones necessary to obtain such a victory.

We very much want to be the good guys. We constantly note that we have respect for the laws of war vs that of our enemies. And yes it is true. They are savages that cut off peoples heads. We do not. Nor should we. But sometimes it seems our morality has spun out of control. When people called for the end of sanctions against Iraq because they were making the civillians suffer, I wondered how is it that sanctions, which are supposed to me more merciful than bombs and invasions, somehow transformed into war crimes. That seems crazy.

So now we wage war in the most surgical, antiseptic manner possible. But has it really brought us victory? I don’t know. It seems more and more possible that perhaps Sherman was on to something. As were the campaigns of WWII, which were not characterized by smart bombs and lawyers poring over target lists.

Did Sherman do great violence? Yes. Did he help end the war and make binding the nation together possible? Yes.

Perhaps a bit of the wisdom and constitution of Sherman may be necessary to see us through the next 50 years. We would not welcome doing things like he did. But we may be forced to see the necessity, and adopt some of them.

Would it mean the end of our soul? No. I don’t think so. It is a rule of mine not to visit great physical harm upon people. But if attacked in a bar, or alley, I can bring myself to do great damage to the one who has attacked me. Once he has been put down by whatever means necessary, I can and will go back to my peaceful ways.

We can too.

Peace.

EFG on September 28, 2006 at 12:21 PM

How many generations is it going to take to change the image of the South? Those that have never been here have no idea how long we have tried to change it. I’m damn proud to be a Southerner, but I even more proud to be an American.

d1carter on September 28, 2006 at 12:23 PM

How many generations is it going to take to change the image of the South?

I don’t know d1carter.

Let me say I’m not a southerner, but I’m damn proud to have Southerners as fellow Americans.

EFG on September 28, 2006 at 12:39 PM

Well put EFG. A hefty dose of “bringing the enemy to its knees” goes a long way. However, the understanding of the implementation of that kind of warfare should not serve as a support for Sherman’s Army’s behavior at that period in the war (the fate of which was long since determined – and Sherman could easily have achieved his tactical manuevers and fed his army without the “Scorched Earth” part.) But we digress.
My point was not to get off topic and argue the finer details of the War of Northern Agression (hehe, take that Allah!) My point was to show consternation that anytime a “racism” debate surfaces, pundits always run back to the safe haven of the Confederacy – “Those stinkin’ Southern bigots!”
So now I find myself buffetted by the same, here – on a conservative blog of all places! And whose picture am I greeted by? William T. Sherman – renowned for being possibly the BIGGEST racist in the Union army! I just don’t get it. War criminal or not, (that was my frustration coming out) he should not serve as the “poster boy” for “Damn it feels good to be a Yankee” in a racism argument.
He was a bigot against Blacks and Jews regardless of where he was born or what side of that long ago conflict he fought on.
Tit for Allah’s tat:
Sherman was a racist!
Michael

y2church on September 28, 2006 at 12:39 PM

I am a yankee. Born and raised in Madison, Wisc. liberal bastion that it is. I am sick and tired of the righteous northerners always bashing the south for their racial attitudes. Since the 60′s most of the racial problems have occured in the north. Boston, New Jersey, Detroit, LA, etc.
I’d recommend extending the banning of “bomb Mecca” to this category also. Both are equally bigotted.

tom scott on September 28, 2006 at 12:45 PM

Thanks Tom,
And a P.S. to all my ramblings today. I married a “yankee” from Michigan and we spent half of our honeymoon touring Civil War battlefields in Virginia. That made for some interesting conversations!
Michael

y2church on September 28, 2006 at 12:53 PM

FYI, Sherman lived in my hometown, in central Louisiana. He was Superintendent of the Louisiana State Seminary and Military Academy that, ultimately, became LSU. The institution moved to Baton Rouge after the War Between the States began. The rest, as they say, is history.

Aunt B on September 28, 2006 at 12:53 PM

Whine2Church,

I am neither a southerner, nor a historian, nor was I alive during the Civil War (hint), nor do I personally know the feelings of General Sherman on issues of race and freedom.

But, I have a proposition. It is my personal belief that by dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the U.S. saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of Japanese, both soldiers and civilians, who would have been slaughtered in the inevitable firebombing attacks and subsequent invasion of the islands.

Consider the counterintuitive possibility that Sherman’s ruthless march did much the same for the south, by hastening an end to this horrific and bloody war.

And then can we all please quit whining about “racism,” and deal with facts and realities?

Jaibones on September 28, 2006 at 1:17 PM

I’m loving this Civil War stuff! Keep it comin’. How in the world could those men stand up in long lines and kill and maim each other without running away? What did it feel like to be in the middle of such a fight? How did they march over 10 miles a day and subsist on hardtack, coffee and salt pork? What was it like to sleep under a canvas tent and carry all your worldly belongings on your back?

Valiant on September 28, 2006 at 1:36 PM

How in the world could those men stand up in long lines and kill and maim each other without running away?

Revolutionary War tactics, my friend.

fogw on September 28, 2006 at 1:40 PM

Tell that to the guys in Gettysburg or the Union soldiers massacred at Chancellorsville.

Valiant on September 28, 2006 at 1:47 PM

Um, yeah, jaibones,
Two things – First: “whine2church?” Insults are not a good way to open a dialogue.
Second – I have repeatedly tried to keep this on topic. But to address your questions about the nukes we used and the tactics Sherman used – YES. I agree with you. The nukes worked, saved countless hundreds of thousands of soldiers and Japanese citizens. And YES. Sherman’s march expedited the obvious. I just hold that there’s a huge difference in the need to drop the two nukes as compared with the need to do what Sherman did. But ENOUGH of that. I wish not to argue any more about that military tactic.
Let’s keep this on racism, what Allah’s post was about.

And then can we all please quit whining about “racism,” and deal with facts and realities?

I simply tried to point out, with facts and realities, that Sherman was a racist (and offensive to Southerners) and therefore posting his picture here was a poor decision by AP [not the nutroots media organization].
Tell me about “tired of whining about racism.” Ye who are admittedly not a Southerner, try walking in our shoes for a day or two and see how tired of it you get.
Michael
Proud Southerner, Civil War Historian, and non-bigot

y2church on September 28, 2006 at 1:47 PM

With respect to the Southern bashing exhibited here, you big city folks can make a choice of being defended by Fort Hamilton, NY or Fort Bragg, NC.

Valiant on September 28, 2006 at 1:50 PM

With respect to the Southern bashing exhibited here, you big city folks can make a choice of being defended by Fort Hamilton, NY or Fort Bragg, NC.

Preach on!

SouthernGent on September 28, 2006 at 2:10 PM

The only N-word I’ve heard lately is from Robert KKK Byrd, oh, and my liberal union father in law, while I was trying to watch the UFC fight.

Oh yeah, and on MTV, and the local rap station, but that doesn’t count, right?

NTWR on September 28, 2006 at 2:21 PM

We very much want to be the good guys.

I don’t want to be the good guy. I want to be the winning guy, and the alive guy.

William Manchester has some great comments on southerners who were fellow Marines in World War II – along the lines of, “how did the North ever win the Civil War when these guys were on the other side?”

Lehuster on September 28, 2006 at 2:32 PM

Must people go on cataloguing every niggling use of the N-word?

Kralizec on September 28, 2006 at 6:39 PM