Iraqi AQ leader releases new tape, calls for release of “blind sheikh”; Update: Also calls for WMD attacks in Iraq

posted at 11:16 am on September 28, 2006 by Allahpundit

Two things. First, AQ in Iraq is obviously coordinating its propaganda releases with the home office. The last tape from al-Muhajer was put out on September 6; As-Sahab released video to Al-Jazeera of Osama meeting with some of the 9/11 planners the next day. Fast forward to yesterday, when As-Sahab announced that a new Zawahiri tape was coming; and now today we’ve got new audio from al-Muhajer. Can’t be a coincidence. Are they working off a preset schedule, I wonder (e.g., a new tape every three weeks), or are there actually lines of communication open between Iraq and Pakistan?

Second, the Counterterrorism Blog has heard the tape and describes it thusly:

In the middle of the speech, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir reminds of the “Blind Sheikh,” Omar Abdul Rahman, and encourages the Mujahideen to capture some of the “Roman dogs” so as to secure his release from the “darkness of his prison, gratitude, loyalty and love.”

Rahman. That would be this handsome fellow here:

abdel-rahman1.jpg

He’s currently doing life in Supermax in Colorado after the FBI caught him on tape in New York encouraging his followers to blow up … everything, really.

Why do I mention him? Because ever since the Moussaoui fiasco, it’s been bugging the shinola out of me that some people still think imprisoning these turds renders them useless to the enemy as propaganda in a way that killing them wouldn’t. As Wikipedia notes, Rahman’s imprisonment “has become a rallying point for Islamic militants around the world, including Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden.” And if you won’t take Wiki’s word for it, watch the very beginning of this edit of the most recent As-Sahab release. That’s Wail al-Shehri, one of the “muscle” hijackers on Flight 11. Notice whom he prays for.


If you kill them, they’re martyrs. If you lock them up, they’re martyrs. So kill them.

Oh — the world’s most alarmist website says U.S. personnel in the green zone are going to be hit with a WMD attack within two weeks of the election. Among the sources of the tip, they claim, are members of the Iraqi government. Mark your calendars!

Update: Muhajer says 4,000 foreign-born jihadis have been killed in Iraq. Which means the actual number is probably double or triple that, without even accounting for the native-born Iraq mujahedeen.

Update: This is ominous when read together with that NIN post.


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If you kill them, they’re martyrs. If you lock them up, they’re martyrs. So kill them.

I agree.

wytammic on September 28, 2006 at 11:22 AM

I’m really tired of basing our decisions regarding what we ought or ought not do on what the frigging jihadis might or might not think of it.

The only good jihadi is a dead one. They want to meet Allah, I say we let them.

Pablo on September 28, 2006 at 11:27 AM

Amen

Valiant on September 28, 2006 at 11:28 AM

Fine, we’ll release rahman … from a helicopter … at 10,000 feet … covered in pigs blood … with a sick of dynamite up his ass … wearin’ blue dress … with a DNA stain on it.

Happy ramadan asshole!

Tony737 on September 28, 2006 at 11:30 AM

read them their rights, then kill them.

shooter on September 28, 2006 at 11:30 AM

Tony737 on September 28, 2006 at 11:30 AM
Better make that 20,000 feet in Colorado…

shooter on September 28, 2006 at 11:31 AM

Iraq is obviously coordinating its propaganda releases with the home office.

And the liberals thought the US wasn’t teaching them anything. If we are going to teach them democracy, we had better teach them the tricks for engineering consent.

GregH on September 28, 2006 at 11:32 AM

…U.S. personnel in the green zone are going to be hit with a WMD attack within two weeks of the election.

Silly jihadis. Don’t they know that there are no WMD’s in Iraq?

RedWinged Blackbird on September 28, 2006 at 11:35 AM

Tony – you have the right idea, but how about this – let’s release him from a helicopter at 10,000ft….covered with pig’s blood, then drop into the great barrier reef and let the great white sharks tear him apart,while video tapping it & show it to the detainee’s at gitmo & tell them if you don’t give us any info on any planned terrorists attack – this will happen to you,then show them the video tape.

Starblazer on September 28, 2006 at 11:37 AM

If you kill them, they’re martyrs. If you lock them up, they’re martyrs. So kill them.

Yep. And their message-smuggling lawyers too.

labwrs on September 28, 2006 at 11:38 AM

Well, wherever we drop him from, be sure we read him his rights, because if we don’t, we’re just as bad as they are, so sayeth Kennedy et al!

Too bad we don’t have a real fence bordering Mexico, we could impale him there.

moonsbreath on September 28, 2006 at 11:55 AM

Ask the Israelis. They have a lot of experience with attacks designed to secure the release of prisoners.

On second thoughts, don’t ask them. This is not something they handle very well.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on September 28, 2006 at 12:03 PM

Great idea Stablazer. By the way, did ya get your name from the cartoon?

Tony737 on September 28, 2006 at 12:20 PM

If you kill them, they’re martyrs. If you lock them up, they’re martyrs. So kill them.

Hmmm. I know that I used to be very much against executing them because I figured it denied them what they wanted, which is martyrdom. I was trying to see things through there eyes in order to understand how best to defeat them. (not any of that crappy-ass hippy understand them, mind you.)

However, time and events have started to wear on that conclusion and I think I may have to re-think that earlier position of mine.

I certainly don’t seem to have much objection to executing them any more, and what little is left is swiftly fading.

I don’t think executing them will cause any of their fellow jihadi’s to put aside their weapons. But it certainly will spare us some of the problems that holding them causes, and prevent others from agitating and fighting for their release.

Bottom line, if executing them brings us closer to victory, then do it. If not, then don’t.

EFG on September 28, 2006 at 12:32 PM

EFG,

Yes, but we gotta torture all the intel we can get out of ‘em first. Once they’re all used up, then go to Starblazer’s idea of feeding them to sharks, film it and post it on their little jihadi websites.

Tony737 on September 28, 2006 at 12:48 PM

Tony – no. it’s something that i made up back in 1989 & it’s a long story.

Starblazer on September 28, 2006 at 12:48 PM

Ah, vivid memories of that one-eyed cyclops from the streets of Jersey City. I recall after the first WTC attack, which Clinton did nothing to prevent in his five weeks in office, I practically had to walk the FBI over to his domicile.

Clinton, BTW, never visited the WTC after the 1993 attack. Didn’t seem to bother him at all.

JammieWearingFool on September 28, 2006 at 12:50 PM

Why don’t we secretly infect this blind sheikh with a terminal contagious disease and set him free. Preferably something that will kill him slowly and painfully, over the course of 5-6 months. That should give us enough time to test Pelosi’s theory on the Golden Rule. You know, if we’re nicey-nice to them they will stop with their bloodthirsty ways.

When, not if, her theory is exposed as pure stupidity after they kill a few more infidels in spite of our humanitarian release of the sheikh, we can ask Nancy for Plan B tell Nancy to stfu with her insane ideas and sympathy for our enemies. Then we can send a candy-gram to Omar Abdul Rahman, informing him of his pending doom and the slow painful death awaiting any other jihad brothers he came in contact with in the last few months.

It’s a win, win. They’re gonna whack us anyway, no matter what we do.

fogw on September 28, 2006 at 1:33 PM

If you kill them, they’re martyrs. If you lock them up, they’re martyrs. So kill them.

Yes, after doing whatever it is you need to do in order to extract information from them – whatever works. THEN kill them. But…

[EFG]

Hmmm. I know that I used to be very much against executing them because I figured it denied them what they wanted, which is martyrdom.

This got me thinking: Are there any conditions under which a terrorist wouldn’t get what they wanted? Perhaps killing them in a manner that would ensure they wouldn’t go to Paradise?

Note here that we’re not talking about *real* Paradise – because after all these terrorists are not true Muslims, as we are reassured daily by spokespeople the world over – rather these are fake Muslims, deluded fools who have hijacked a great religion and twisted it beyond recognition, from Islam to non-Islam apparently; and therefore, they are clearly *not* destined for Paradise. And praying five times a day, wearing beards and avoiding pork (and Jews) will not get them any closer to Paradise. So the real question is then, how do we dissuade these loons from thinking they’ll make it to Paradise, so as to undercut the incentive?

I seem to recall a news article some years back about Israel considering hanging sides of pork on public buses (no joke!) because, as distasteful as that might be to kosherdom, it would provide an even greater deterrent to would-be suicide bombers. The idea being, if you’re splattered with pork fat on the way to Paradise, you don’t make it.

I wondered at the time, and I’m still wondering: could that possibly be true??? If so, then splattering a terrorist with pig parts during the act of our state-sponsored executions would automatically deflect him from martyrdom to non-martyrdom. Easy and predictable as 1-2-3. Could it really be that simple?

Not that that’s what we’re really doing; as I clarified above, on behalf of spokesmen everywhere, these aren’t real Muslims we’re talking about, they’re fake ones; so really all we’re doing is removing the *illusion* of making it to Paradise, so as to dissipate the propaganda value of the act to terrorist sympathizers. (See?)

And since we’re told that terrorists aren’t true Muslims, then, how could any true Muslim possibly be offended by such a prospect? Wouldn’t they welcome it? Indeed, they ought to saying “serves them right, those apostates” right along with us, no? We could also make it clear that this punishment is reserved only for fake Muslims, not real ones; and if we witness a jailhouse conversion to “true” Islam (which includes rejecting terror and repentence for their sins in the name of Allah) before the death sentence is carried out, we would willingly and enthusiastically commute the death-by-pig parts sentence.

Let me emphasize that I’m *not* suggesting anyone do this to a true, peace-loving Muslim – that would be beyond the pale, as our society respects all true religions – only to those who hijack the religion to wage war against innocent civilians. Thankfully the terrorists’ in-your-face behavior makes it easy to distinguish a real Muslim from a fake one (or else I’d be nervous about granting such ominous decision-making power to the state)…

And I’m not necessarily advocating that we actually do it. All I’m asking is, how could anyone, least of all a true Muslim, be remotely offended by the suggestion? Or [mis]construe it as an insult to their religion (which we are told the terrorists don’t share)? After all would a Muslim be offended if a Jew was splattered with the same pig parts on the way to his or her death? Or a Christian? Or a Hindu? (Come on, be serious… ;-)

RD on September 28, 2006 at 2:00 PM

This got me thinking: Are there any conditions under which a terrorist wouldn’t get what they wanted? Perhaps killing them in a manner that would ensure they wouldn’t go to Paradise?

Actually, yes there is!

Go buy yourself an “Infidel’s Revenge Pen.”

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Imagine the impact on the worldwide “terror movement” knowing that the possibility of eternal damnation is resident in every drawer, every purse, every pocket everywhere.

This simple solution holds the promise of dramatically reducing, and even ending, suicide bombings.-Anatomy of a terror prevention pen. Our patent pending terror prevention pen cartridge is encased in a double layered, plastic cylinder filled with a mixture of glycerin, water and alcohol. Atop the liquid cylinder is another sealed cylinder containing patent-pending powdered pig’s blood and other ingredients that will stop would-be-terrorists in their tracks.

Gregor on September 28, 2006 at 2:20 PM

Sorry RD. Meant to blockquote your part of that.

Gregor on September 28, 2006 at 2:21 PM

RD, that’s a brilliant analysis.

Tony737 on September 28, 2006 at 2:31 PM

Gregor! That link is great. Stocking stuffers for Christmas, methinks.

I’ve heard pigs will eat anything. Why not release the BS into a hungry pig pen?

NTWR on September 28, 2006 at 2:38 PM

This is something so simple I’m unable to grasp why our military has not taken advantage of it.

The entire failure of our current operation is due to massive flows of enemy combatants eagerly charging into battle from the borders of Syria, Iran, and Pakistan.

How simple would it be for the military to fill every bullet with pigs blood and advertise it throughout the region.

How many enemy combatants would be eager to charge to their death once the glory of paradise and 72 virgins is taken away and replaced with eternal damnation?

Am I missing something, or am I right that this would end the war in about eight seconds?

Gregor on September 28, 2006 at 2:47 PM

Gregor writes:

How simple would it be for the military to fill every bullet with pigs blood and advertise it throughout the region.

Look up one of the causes of the Sepoy Mutiny.

Would you really expect an new Iraq Army soldier to use one of these rounds on a fellow Muslim?

georgej on September 28, 2006 at 3:13 PM

I was referring to the United States Military. The Iraqi army is welcome to use anything they wish.

Gregor on September 28, 2006 at 3:24 PM

Thanks for the thumbs-up Tony737 – and I’m definitely on board w/intel gathering. Gregor, great ideas & I’ve added a pen to my shopping list. The graphics on the site also seem to indicate the assertion about pork parts is true, though I’d like to hear Robert Spencer confirm it or circumscribe the extent to which such an idea has practical application…

[RD] We could also make it clear that this punishment is reserved only for fake Muslims, not real ones; and if we witness a jailhouse conversion to “true” Islam (which includes rejecting terror and repentence for their sins in the name of Allah)…

… which of course would be taped and broadcast around the world by Fox News, so the umma could be reassured their wayward sons had returned humbly to the Muslim flock…the mirror image, if you will, of the forced conversions of Fox News journalists that so perturbed the true “mainstream” Muslims…

…before the death sentence is carried out, we would willingly and enthusiastically commute the death-by-pig parts sentence

… to life in prison with no possibility of parole, and no quick death, either. Don’t know about you, but my vote is for hard labor. Any serious trouble from these inmates, and the jailhouse conversion is considered null and void and the death by pig parts reinstated…

(“But wouldn’t they just commit suicide? Or help each other do it, with the rock-breaking tools they were forced to use every day?”) Sure, but by then, we’d have their confessions on tape. IOW they’d already be shamed…

RD on September 29, 2006 at 12:07 AM

8 STEPS NECESSARY TO RELEASE THE BLIND SHEIK:

1) Drug his last meal before freeing him to the jihadis in Iraq.

2) Insert combination GPS and C4 (semtex) suppository DEEPLY during stupor.

3) Transport PERP to outskirts of Fallujah, etc. and let him go.

4) Track movements and keep eye-in-the-sky drone & satellite cameras on target area.

5) When al-Qaeda leaders congregate to congratulate…

6) Press button to ignite C4 (semtex).

7) Open champagne. (Pop!)

8) Release predator drone video to Al Jazeera and YouTube.

profitsbeard on September 29, 2006 at 1:36 AM