For me, the best car speakers are neither too heavy on the bass nor too heavy on the treble….

You know what they say about wrestling with a pig: You’ll just get tired and dirty, and the pig actually enjoys it.

On my post about World War Z and the implications of zombiehood, a spokeswoman for the undead-American community left the following admonishment: Dear Zombiephobe, Your scurrilous attempt to besmirch all who practice Zombieism is alienating moderate zo…

I can clearly see where a genuinly good person by most American’s standards of Islamic faith would immigrate to another country and be a perfect model citizen. This family would be pleasant, hard working, make genuine efforts to assimilate, contribute, and integrate into the nation they immigrated to. They would have strong devotion to God and their understanding of his presence. In every way this family would seem to be the perfect immigrant and a welcome addition to the nation.

The problem comes about because of unchangeable or unmodifiable tentants of the Islamic faith that are, for all practical purposes, written in stone and in direct conflict with modern Western values. The specific issues revolve around a lack of tolerance for other faiths, a fundamental conflict between unchangeable Islamic rules or laws and progressive social change (especially with women), and a lack of tolerance of free speech and discourse that does not agree with their beliefs.

The result is those perfect Islamic immigrants bring with them a doctrine that is, essentially, incompatable with democracy and freedom of religion. The “moderate” Muslim adjusts their actions to not participate in violence but to some measure, almost always, supports the basic concepts behind Jihad due to the tenants of their faith.

This perfect immigrant family raises children who embrace their relationship with God – and run right into the conflict between tenants of their faith and western values and laws. The children and grandchildren of those Muslim immigrants often become radical Islamofacists who become obsessed with the destruction of the nation their parents have immigrated to.

This state of affairs did not show up yesterday, it has been a conflict for hundreds of years. The issue is how to deal with it when ANY set of beliefs, including Islam, is not tolerant of others and is unwilling to change.

I am coming to the conclusion that the “moderate” Muslim is very rare and is being confused with the “inactive” or “dormant” Muslim. Hershi Ali is an example of a “moderate” Muslim – and you can see what the reaction to her beliefs are.

Suggestion: This topic of understanding who the “enemy” is, what is a “moderate” Muslim, and the basic conflict with the Islamofacist deserves in depth coverage. Perhaps Hershi Ali would be of great benefit in this discourse.

And in WW II we did declare war on a sort of religion: Facism – as represented by the Nazi Germany, and Mussolini, and Tojo.

True. And if Hitler had announced he was a god and his Naziism was the one true religion, we would have still been at war with it.

Seriously, although Michelle need hold tryouts for an adequate verbal sparring partner, I volunteer to be her Champion, if she wants one.

There’s this story about flipping a VW Bug on its side that just follows me around…

I think Dean usually serves a good purpose… checking the far-right blogs that cross the line, but now he’s just plain making stuff up.

I’ve already explained, in my original posting, that Michelle and others like her frequently simply characterize “Muslims” as the enemy.

Provide a link. I’ll help you on your search. Let me know when you find something.

And yes, they regularly play host to vile Islamophobic commenters and say nothing at all to discourage those.

This is simply untrue. AllahPundit is usually the one playing moderator here, and I know for a fact that he’s warned and/or banned many commenters for anti-Muslim sentiments. If there are still some comments standing, let him know. This site gets hundreds of comments daily. There are too many to read them all.

Subsunk, waiting to be booted off. Out.

Subsunk on September 28, 2006 at 4:28 PM

Subsunk, I hope you resurface soon :) I belong to a submarine club in San Diego, as a special member (not having been a submariner, but admiring all who have and are).

But jeez, she doesn’t even have comments there to blame on her! HAHA!

Why Michelle Malkin? Why today? Why not take on everyone who unapologetically says “Islamofascist?” Does he have a better, more technically correct term? Does he even read Malkin or any of the other writers he calls bigots? It sure doesn’t look like it.

Michelle’s always the lightning rod. If you’re going to pick a fight, you might as well pick it with her.

Another point which I would raise at Dean’s, but I have a hunch I wouldn’t get a logical, honest (not to mention respectful) answer: How does he think all of our moderate Muslim “allies” feel about American foreign policy on Israel? What other country is as much a friend to us? Should we NOT support our own interests? Should we only support Muslim “allies,” but not Israel or others?

I don’t read his site much (I read Rosemary far more often), so I don’t know his opinion on our foreign policy re: Israel. If I had to guess, based on his extremist rhetoric on the war, I’d guess he’s probably got a touch of Stockholm Syndrome from his apparently slavish devotion to Islam. Or maybe he just gives them a pass. That’s his business, but as for me, I don’t trust people that long for the annihilation of Israel (Ahmadinejad isn’t the only one). So we have Muslim countries as allies, sure. But when it comes down to it, “trust, but verify” applies.

And this:

To me it would be akin to, in World War II, declaring ourselves at war with “Germanic People,” “Latin People,” and “Southeast Asians.” Not Nazi Germany and Mussolini’s Italy and Tojo’s Japan.

So what DOES he think this war is about? If you take that argument strawman to its logical conclusion, he would have to be against the war altogether because we’re not at war with any specific country. (But WHO said we’re at war with Muslims, anyway? What a crock!)

Why Michelle Malkin? Why today? Why not take on everyone who unapologetically says “Islamofascist?” Does he have a better, more technically correct term? Does he even read Malkin or any of the other writers he calls bigots? It sure doesn’t look like it.

Your opinion is certainly justified by what you’ve quoted. Dean has done this before. Like I said, he’s a hothead, and he does tend to let anger get the better of him. From what I’ve seen, he’ll go on these angry tears for a few days at a stretch and then he’ll calm down again. It’s unfortunate, and it does hurt his credibility. I’m not claiming that he’s been “misunderstood” or anything of the kind. He’s surely stepped in it, and unfortunately, this dustup seems to be getting around the sphere. He’s made his own problems, and he’ll have to deal with them.

I think it’s a shame for a number of reasons, but mostly because it’s difficult to watch a friend make a fool of himself in public.

Democrats have been playing up this Senate Intelligence Report leak as though it is some major revelation that the world was unaware of prior to it’s leak, as though we were so thick headed that we didn’t realize that going after terror…

Apologies.

And finally, I note that you’re a strident critic of Robert Spencer, who now hosts a show on Hot Air.

This has to be why he’s showed up on your doorstep. Congrats – you’ve attracted a turd for life! :-)

Some favorite takedowns on the subject, most by HotAir’s very own Robert Spencer:

The evidence points to the truth — and to Roobart Sbunsar

Francis W. Porretto – To Those Visiting Here From Dean Esmay’s Site

Esmay speaks

On assertions without evidence

Anybody seen Dean Esmay?

Should one ally with those with whom one disagrees?

Esmay’s dismay, and his response

[SilverStart830] … honestly, I don’t know why Michelle (or anyone) would even bother giving him the time of day.

Agreed! Robert Spencer reluctantly makes the case for why in his response(s).

As a co-blogger, and sometimes part-time editor-in-chief of the Jawa Report, I must say this.

We have tried IP banning, deleting, editing, and general making fun of the “kill all muslims” commenters on our site.

I understand completely. I still read your site despite the antics of some commentators. I still read LGF, too. It’s unfortunate that that stuff is out there, but I don’t think it necessarily destroys a site.