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	<title>Comments on: Hey, how&#8217;s that peace deal between Pakistan and the jihadis working out?</title>
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		<title>By: Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Talibanistan?</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/27/hey-hows-that-peace-deal-between-pakistan-and-the-jihadis-working-out/comment-page-1/#comment-138766</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Voices &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Talibanistan?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From ALLAHPUNDIT: read all of this one; it explains at length how that nightmarish “peace treaty” in early September between the jihadis and Musharraf — who stood next to Bush at a White House presser and presented it as a victory — has completely backfired. According to the Times, the International Crisis Group is set to release a report on the deal tomorrow branding the treaty with the scarlet A. Even some Pakistani officials were willing to admit that the policy is a disaster — off the record, of course. Diplomats in Kabul told the LA Times last week that the next few months could determine whether the Taliban resistance peters out or whether they start a full-fledged Iraqi-type insurgency in the country. We’re killing them militarily but the zombie army has an endless supply of manpower. According to officials, they need to “prevent the militants from seizing and holding more territory, establish reasonably secure conditions in the capital and the hinterlands, choke off infiltration across the porous Pakistani border and mend fences with restive tribal leaders.” None of which directly addresses the problem of having Talibanistan right next door. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From ALLAHPUNDIT: read all of this one; it explains at length how that nightmarish “peace treaty” in early September between the jihadis and Musharraf — who stood next to Bush at a White House presser and presented it as a victory — has completely backfired. According to the Times, the International Crisis Group is set to release a report on the deal tomorrow branding the treaty with the scarlet A. Even some Pakistani officials were willing to admit that the policy is a disaster — off the record, of course. Diplomats in Kabul told the LA Times last week that the next few months could determine whether the Taliban resistance peters out or whether they start a full-fledged Iraqi-type insurgency in the country. We’re killing them militarily but the zombie army has an endless supply of manpower. According to officials, they need to “prevent the militants from seizing and holding more territory, establish reasonably secure conditions in the capital and the hinterlands, choke off infiltration across the porous Pakistani border and mend fences with restive tribal leaders.” None of which directly addresses the problem of having Talibanistan right next door. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taliban Gaining Ground In Pakistan</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/27/hey-hows-that-peace-deal-between-pakistan-and-the-jihadis-working-out/comment-page-1/#comment-62956</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Taliban Gaining Ground In Pakistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 01:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hot Air  Afghanistan Al Qaeda Bin Laden Pakistan Taliban Truce Waziristan   Filed in: War On Terror &#124;        No Comments &#187; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Global News Blog &#187; Terrorism and Insurgency - BUSH GETS ONE RIGHT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Global News Blog &#187; Terrorism and Insurgency - BUSH GETS ONE RIGHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hey, how s that peace deal between Pakistan and the jihadis &#8230;Hot Air,&#160;MD&#160;- Sep 27, 2006&#8230; Karzai s going to beg Musharraf to move against the Taliban and close the jihadi-factory madrassas and Musharraf s going to nod thoughtfully and push food &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hey, how s that peace deal between Pakistan and the jihadis &#8230;Hot Air,&nbsp;MD&nbsp;- Sep 27, 2006&#8230; Karzai s going to beg Musharraf to move against the Taliban and close the jihadi-factory madrassas and Musharraf s going to nod thoughtfully and push food &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tormod</title>
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		<dc:creator>tormod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to &quot;immedately and permanently&quot; close the area is to NUKE IT.  

Otherwise, leave the negotiations to the locals, who understand these options better than outsiders.  

The safeguard is vigilance of the local situation and we do not have another option.  If you think of another solution, pipe up now.  I am always in favor of something that works and do not claim infallability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to &#8220;immedately and permanently&#8221; close the area is to NUKE IT.  </p>
<p>Otherwise, leave the negotiations to the locals, who understand these options better than outsiders.  </p>
<p>The safeguard is vigilance of the local situation and we do not have another option.  If you think of another solution, pipe up now.  I am always in favor of something that works and do not claim infallability.</p>
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		<title>By: F. Rottles</title>
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		<dc:creator>F. Rottles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 14:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musharraf may be duplicitous, but that&#039;s probably the only way for him to hold the Pakistan government together. The alternative to him would be a new regime far more cozy with the Taliban.

Musharraf operates in the shadows, mostly, on matters of security. But he could not send a large-scale frontal attack against the Taliban so he&#039;ll settle for attempting to erode and corner the Al Qaeda elements first; and that&#039;s very complicated by Bin Laden&#039;s (and his closest followers&#039;) inter-marriages and inter-clan ties with Afghanis and western Pakistanis. But if Musharraf can cut that part of Pakistan off -- and undermine the Taliban infuence -- he would gain on the national level. Not while doing it, but after the fact.

So in the shadows, and unfortunately probably farther down the road, we might see a huge difference in the counter-intersurgency operations along that border. The Afghan government doesn&#039;t want that border to become &quot;moveable&quot; anymore than does Musharraf. But this leaves an opening, ever so slight, and ever so darkened by shadows, for the Coalition&#039;s special ops teams to make incursions, eventually.

It is at least progress that all sides get that this border is not a neutral border anylonger. In fact, the border is not a thin internationalized line; it has become a wide region that straddles the two countries. Containment is Musharraf’s priority, as it is Karzai&#039;s, and that means a war of attrition. I doubt there will be a knock-out punch thrown anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musharraf may be duplicitous, but that&#8217;s probably the only way for him to hold the Pakistan government together. The alternative to him would be a new regime far more cozy with the Taliban.</p>
<p>Musharraf operates in the shadows, mostly, on matters of security. But he could not send a large-scale frontal attack against the Taliban so he&#8217;ll settle for attempting to erode and corner the Al Qaeda elements first; and that&#8217;s very complicated by Bin Laden&#8217;s (and his closest followers&#8217;) inter-marriages and inter-clan ties with Afghanis and western Pakistanis. But if Musharraf can cut that part of Pakistan off &#8212; and undermine the Taliban infuence &#8212; he would gain on the national level. Not while doing it, but after the fact.</p>
<p>So in the shadows, and unfortunately probably farther down the road, we might see a huge difference in the counter-intersurgency operations along that border. The Afghan government doesn&#8217;t want that border to become &#8220;moveable&#8221; anymore than does Musharraf. But this leaves an opening, ever so slight, and ever so darkened by shadows, for the Coalition&#8217;s special ops teams to make incursions, eventually.</p>
<p>It is at least progress that all sides get that this border is not a neutral border anylonger. In fact, the border is not a thin internationalized line; it has become a wide region that straddles the two countries. Containment is Musharraf’s priority, as it is Karzai&#8217;s, and that means a war of attrition. I doubt there will be a knock-out punch thrown anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony737</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 05:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out Troops are not allowed into Pakistan, but if Mushy is not in control of Waziristan, then it&#039;s not really part of Pakistan, is it? And therefore our Troops oughta be sent in there to find that camel turd and his little butt buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out Troops are not allowed into Pakistan, but if Mushy is not in control of Waziristan, then it&#8217;s not really part of Pakistan, is it? And therefore our Troops oughta be sent in there to find that camel turd and his little butt buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Plus + Ultra &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mushi Dumps 2,500 Al-Qaeda, Taliban Onto Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plus + Ultra &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mushi Dumps 2,500 Al-Qaeda, Taliban Onto Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musharraf&#039;s blind eye toward Waziristan may be exactly what the place needs. A blind eye is, after all, blind. You can&#039;t hold a guy responsible for something he didn&#039;t see when he&#039;s got a signed deal that says he&#039;s supposed to look away. 

So anyway, who&#039;s in charge of enforcing the Waziristan side of the Afghan border? Some ambitious young officer could get himself a lucky hat out of an arrangement like this. 

I&#039;m just airing this out, mind you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musharraf&#8217;s blind eye toward Waziristan may be exactly what the place needs. A blind eye is, after all, blind. You can&#8217;t hold a guy responsible for something he didn&#8217;t see when he&#8217;s got a signed deal that says he&#8217;s supposed to look away. </p>
<p>So anyway, who&#8217;s in charge of enforcing the Waziristan side of the Afghan border? Some ambitious young officer could get himself a lucky hat out of an arrangement like this. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just airing this out, mind you.</p>
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		<title>By: Old War Dogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old War Dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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