Three sources tell Salon Allen used N-word regularly in college

posted at 11:14 pm on September 24, 2006 by Allahpundit

As the designers of the Arizona 9/11 memorial might say:

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Either this is the filthiest trick the Dems ever pulled or this guy is done, done, done, beyond even the ability of a teary Robert Byrd-esque error-of-my-ways confession to save him. Check this out:

Shelton said he also remembers a disturbing deer hunting trip with Allen on land that was owned by the family of Billy Lanahan, a wide receiver on the team. After they had killed a deer, Shelton said he remembers Allen asking Lanahan where the local black residents lived. Shelton said Allen then drove the three of them to that neighborhood with the severed head of the deer. “He proceeded to take the doe’s head and stuff it into a mailbox,” Shelton said.

On the other hand:

Over the past week, Salon has interviewed 19 former teammates and college friends of Allen from the University of Virginia. In addition to the three who said Allen used the word “nigger,” two others who were contacted said they remember being bothered by Allen’s displaying the Confederate flag in college, but said they do not remember him acting in an overtly racist manner. Seven others said they did not know Allen well outside the football team, but do not remember Allen demonstrating any racist feelings. A separate seven teammates and friends said they knew Allen well and did not believe he held racist views. “I don’t believe he was insensitive,” said Paul Ryczek, who played center in Allen’s year before joining the Atlanta Falcons. “He had no prejudices, biases or anything else.”

I don’t know. Macacagate plus his fondness for confederate flags plus some other things equals I don’t know.

Probably best to take the Barnett approach at this point. I.e., if you’ve got to lose to a Democrat, you can do worse than Jim Webb.

Whatever they’re paying Jon Henke, it’s not enough.

Thanks to Jay Stephenson for the tip.

Update: I never know how seriously to take the Prowler, but for what it’s worth, they’ve got a report out this a.m. on Reid’s and Pelosi’s consternation at racism swirling around the Allen/Webb campaign — and it ain’t Allen’s alleged racism that’s supposedly got them worried. Dan Riehl’s been digging around too, trying to figure out whether Salon’s named source might have some ulterior motive for wanting to discredit Allen. Annnnd … he might.

I’m IMing with Mary K as I write this and she brought up something that occurred to me earlier too: wouldn’t the Dems’ opposition researchers have dug up this long ago? The guy’s been governor, then senator, and now he’s a presidential candidate. If they knew about this, why were they sitting on it? Why wouldn’t they have torpedoed him with it early in his career? Why, for that matter, would Shelton have sat on it? He was okay with a vicious racist being governor and senator, but now that Allen’s a dark-horse candidate for the presidency — who’s locked in a tight race for re-election — his conscience can bear no more?

And what’s up with that deer-head story, anyway?

Update: Excellent point by See-Dubya:

Note that even though Allen is already a Senator, his accuser Robert Shelton didn’t come forward with this story until this year, the year that Billy Lanahan, the third witness to “the deer head incident” died. Now it’s just Shelton’s word versus Allen’s.


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So, if Clinton can be forgiven smoking pot, dodging the draft, organizing anti-American demonstrations, and going to Moscow while in college…

Lehuster on September 24, 2006 at 11:42 PM

Was he referencing Niger or Nigeria?

Kevin M on September 24, 2006 at 11:48 PM

George Allen was a rapper?

harrison on September 25, 2006 at 12:06 AM

I don’t know. Macacagate plus his fondness for confederate flags plus some other things equals I don’t know.

…plus he’s part French. I don’t know either.

Watcher on September 25, 2006 at 12:24 AM

Robert Byrd did, too.

Throw them both out. It’d really be a super trade.

Hoodlumman on September 25, 2006 at 12:33 AM

Like Hoodlums post above mine alludes to, Word has it the senior senator of the Democratic party used to belong to the KKK! I bet he used the N word once in a while too, not just in college either!

The left always seems to conveniently forget that little tidbit of info.

chicagoray on September 25, 2006 at 12:38 AM

Hypocritical BULLSHIT from the Democrats!

Robert KKK Byrd was a KKK *OFFICER*, but because he’s a democrat, he’s excused for his indiscretions from when he was younger. He didn’t simply use the word “nigger” — he actively persecuted blacks. But he gets a pass because he’s a Democrat. How hypocritical!

Time to put things in perspective. Allen was born in 1952. In 1972, when Allen was 20, one of the Democratic candidates for President was George Wallace — an old-line segregationist — who until he was nearly assassinated, was considered a front runner for the nomination.

In 1972, the US Army was litterly in an internal race war between whites and blacks on bases around the world.

In 1972, 2-time Nobel Prize (one of which was the “Peace Prize”) winner Linus Pauling was making speeches advocating euthanizing genetic defectives.

In 1972, Nobel Physics Prize winner William Schockley wrote: “Nature has color-coded groups of individuals so that statistically reliable predictions of their adaptability to intellectually rewarding and effective lives can easily be made and profitably be used by the pragmatic man in the street.”

In 1972, Minnie Liddel and other black parents sued the St. Louis, MO, school system for racial segregation.

Skip ahead 4 years and things weren’t much better.

In 1976, the Nazis marched in Skokie, IL, where a large number of Holocaust survivors lived.

In 1976, Presidential candidate JIMMY CARTER decried “black intrusions” into white neighborhoods as threatening admirable “ethnic purity.” But because CARTER is a Democrat, this information fallen into the memory hole.

The facts are that in 1972, when Allen was a college kid, this nation was still nearly as racist as it was in 1954. Nobody alive then was “squeaky clean” when it came to using racial epithets back then. It is the way things were.

So, I refuse to stand by and watch the Jim Webb Campaign and/or Chuck Schumer drive to regain the Senate mau-mau George Allen the way they did Trent Lott.

The question is whether or not Allen is a racist today. Or, whether or not James Webb is.

James Webb, in 1979 AS AN ADULT INSTRUCTOR at Annapolis, *WAS* a sexist pig. There is no if, ands, or buts about it.

Is he a changed man in 2006?

Not, apparently, if it is about Jews. Webb, in 2006, is proving to be an anti-semetic racist.

His primary campaign printed a “cartoon” portraying his primary election opponent, Harris Miller, who is Jewish, as a greedy industrialist, with a hooked nose — an archtypical anti-Semitic stereotype.

While I was willing to overlook that incident as an anomaly, the reporter who asked about Allen’s mother being Jewish changed my mind. Once might be a mistake or an act of insensitivity. Twice is a pattern, and that pattern is of Webb playing the raceist card in order to win the election.

georgej on September 25, 2006 at 12:41 AM

Yup, I remember the Skokie parade from the Blues Brother’s treatment of it.
Dems,using the race card? When did they start that?

bbz123 on September 25, 2006 at 1:08 AM

I know people from college who don’t like me and would probably make up all kinds of sh*t about me if someone would listen to them.

see-dubya on September 25, 2006 at 1:14 AM

I just watched “Jesus is Magic” and I laughed. If I were a politician would I be nailed up for that? You betcha. This is so ridiculous,georgej is so on the money with his post,and it is quite racist to assume that the Black population will be up in arms over what this fine cracker did or said lo 30 years ago.

bbz123 on September 25, 2006 at 1:37 AM

I don’t buy it. There are too many who refute the ‘story’, and if Allen had indeed used N-word regularly then they would have more evidence to support that.

Typical liberal reporting.

DannoJyd on September 25, 2006 at 2:17 AM

Why is this just surfacing now? It’s not like he is running for office for the first time.

Ian on September 25, 2006 at 2:42 AM

Ian–

Because the third person on this deer-hunting trip, Billy Lanahan, died this year, leaving it Allen’s word versus Shelton’s.

see-dubya on September 25, 2006 at 3:03 AM

Roll your eyes if you want, but I’m gonna say it…having a Confederate flag in college doesn’t make him a racist. There are rednecks who fly it because of that, but not everyone views it that way. Sen. Allen went to the University of Virginia and got a degree in history. Maybe he had an interest in Civil War history, which is not unusual in the South, being as most of it was fought in the South. Thatdoes notmake him a racist. Just sayin’.

CP on September 25, 2006 at 3:40 AM

Kos actually had some political analysis I agreed with when he said we conservatives should be greatful to the Webb campaign for exposing what a weak candidate Allen is well before any presidential primary.

frankj on September 25, 2006 at 7:07 AM

No eye-rolling here, CP.

The Simpsons says it best:

Background: Apu is an Indian immigrant, applying for American citizenship… he has been studying American history very fervently.

Proctor: All right, here’s your last question. What was the cause of the Civil War?
Apu: Actually, there were numerous causes. Aside from the obvious schism between the abolitionists and the anti-abolitionists, there were economic factors, both domestic and inter–
Proctor: Wait, wait… just say slavery.
Apu: Slavery it is, sir.

Mark Jaquith on September 25, 2006 at 7:49 AM

Now that I recall, I had a confederate flag on the wall in college too. It was because I was born in VA and it was merely a decorative conversation piece,not any kind of racist statement.

bbz123 on September 25, 2006 at 8:09 AM

Wow! Really?

Because I can turn on BET and see black Liberals using that word every day!

venmax on September 25, 2006 at 8:54 AM

I also heard from his third grade classmates that he used the poopie and peepee words too..

madmonaco on September 25, 2006 at 8:58 AM

If 250 other former colleagues and classmates were to sign sworn affadavids that Allen was a flagrant racist, then and only then could we use the word, “Swiftboating” here….

The other thing I’ve never understood about Allen is that he never explained the origins of “macaca.” According to his staffers, “Mohawkma” was the nickname they gave “Macaca,” because he was from Inda and wore a Mohawkish hairdo. Allen thought that actually was his name and mispronounced it.

wordwarp on September 25, 2006 at 9:08 AM

Leaves one wondering just how many people and manhours the Demoratic Party devotes to just digging up dirt. As sure as the leaves turn color each fall, the Dems can be counted on to roll out their cheap tricks to try to win an election.

Nothing of substance to offer, only verbal hate coming from the party who chants “Let’s set aside any personal attacks”.

What a disgusting pack of hypocritical losers.

fogw on September 25, 2006 at 9:44 AM

Republican..hunting trip…no one got shot, right? OK, no harm here, move along.

Alden Pyle on September 25, 2006 at 9:56 AM

I find it plain scary that someone can be judged unqualified for ANYTHING because he used a certain WORD at one point in his life.

Labamigo on September 25, 2006 at 10:07 AM

I take it the local Black Americans had huge mail boxes. It is impossible to stuff a deer head in a regulation size mail box.

This story is bogus.

Hening on September 25, 2006 at 10:11 AM

Biggest bunch of pure BS ever. The deer head story? Hening’s right–it makes as much sense as FLUSHING A KORAN.

The confederate flag thing is stupid, too. Not everyone who flies one (especially 30 years ago! It was still on state flags then!) is a racist. The notion just plain pisses me off.

As far as him using the “n” bomb, that also sounds like crap. It’s maddening that these smear merchants get away with it to the point that people on OUR side say “I don’t know” because of all the poo they fling. Don’t lose sight of that point that none of this has been raised before–it’s not like he couldn’t have been taken out with that before IF IT WERE TRUE.

And look at Jim Webb: it’s not like his past “indiscretions” (LOL) have been denied–he not only admits his vile anti-female beliefs, he excuses them to this day. Not once has he ever said he’s a different man these days.

The Webb people know this, and the only “defense” they have is to make up stuff about Allen in hopes that he’ll be considered more despicable than Webb is. FAT CHANCE.

bamapachyderm on September 25, 2006 at 10:42 AM

You have to admit, though, that Webb has done a brilliant job of keeping Allen on the defensive. So far he’s spent the whole campaign explaining why he’s not a racist instead of explaining why he’s better than Webb.

Lehuster on September 25, 2006 at 11:16 AM

You have to admit, though, that Webb has done a brilliant job of keeping Allen on the defensive. So far he’s spent the whole campaign explaining why he’s not a racist instead of explaining why he’s better than Webb.

Dems can’t focus on the issues because they get killed everytime – instead they focus all their energy on personal attacks. I bet you we can dig up some good dirt on every single person holding office (or currently running for office) from back when they were in college (or soon after).

georgej is right on – we have to add some perspective to all these allegations.

Rick on September 25, 2006 at 1:01 PM

The problem with displaying a Confederate flag is it immediately brands you a redneck and a loser. I lived in the South–you see the stars and bars usually in rundown areas and bars you wouldn’t think of going into or on cars that are held together with chewing gum. Not in your nicer neighborhoods or country clubs. Never did understand this obsession with a losing cause.

honora on September 25, 2006 at 2:05 PM

Roll your eyes if you want, but I’m gonna say it…having a Confederate flag in college doesn’t make him a racist. CP

Yes it does. Lying about it is what they do after they get caught with the flag! It’s an old dodge. “I’m just proud of my history”, The confederacy has NO HISTORY TO BE PROUD OF UNLESS YOU’RE A FUCKING RACIST! It’s like how the Klan says they are no longer “Anti-Black”, now they’re just “Pro-White”, RIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHT.

Soothsayer on September 27, 2006 at 11:23 PM

“Allen said he came to Virginia because he wanted to play football in a place where ‘blacks knew their place,’” said Dr. Ken Shelton, a white radiologist in North Carolina who played tight end for the University of Virginia football team when Allen was quarterback. “He used the N-word on a regular basis back then.”

A second white teammate, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he feared retribution from the Allen campaign, separately claimed that Allen used the word “nigger” to describe blacks. “It was so common with George when he was among his white friends. This is the terminology he used,” the teammate said.

A third white teammate contacted separately, who also spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of being attacked by the Virginia senator, said he too remembers Allen using the word “nigger,” though he said he could not recall a specific conversation in which Allen used the term. “My impression of him was that he was a racist,” the third teammate said.

Uhhhmmm. I believe that this happened. Sorry. I do. I ALSO don’t believe that Allen feels this way today. Unfortunately the world is full of people whose past makes them unacceptable for the Presidency.

Soothsayer on September 28, 2006 at 12:16 AM