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Grim milestone alert: War deaths surpass deaths on 9/11

posted at 10:05 pm on September 22, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Yes, they actually use the words “grim” and “milestone.” But not together. They’re separated by a few paragraphs, presumably because even the AP can’t bear the cliche any longer.

I expect the author’s had this story ready to go for the past two or three weeks, and has just been making tally marks in his notebook each day as the KIA reports roll in. “Three more to go, two, one… RUN IT.”

The first line is perfect in its moral agnosticism, but the following is good too. Try to imagine it being read in Keith Olbermann’s voice:

Not for the first time, war that was started to answer death has resulted in at least as much death for the country that was first attacked, quite apart from the higher numbers of enemy and civilians killed, too.

How many of those 2,973 did Bilal Hussein help kill?


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And how long was it after Pearl Harbor before FDR past that “grim milestone”?

Leftists are clearly bitter we didn’t pass this “grim milestone” during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Terp Mole on September 22, 2006 at 10:10 PM

See also VDH;

May 26, 2006
Looking Back at Iraq
A war to be proud of.
by Victor Davis Hanson

… But what did 2,400 brave and now deceased Americans really sacrifice for in Iraq, along with thousands more who were wounded? And what were billions in treasure spent on? And what about the hundreds of collective years of service offered by our soldiers? What exactly did intrepid officers in the news like a Gen. Petreus, or Col. McMaster, or Lt. Col Kurilla fight for?

First, there is no longer a mass murderer atop one of the oil-richest states in the world. Imagine what Iraq would now look like with $70 a barrel oil, a $50 billion unchecked and ongoing Oil-for-Food U.N. scandal, the 15th year of no-fly zones, a punitative U.N. embargo on the Iraqi people — all perverted by Russian arms sales, European oil concessions, and frenzied Chinese efforts to get energy contracts from Saddam.

The Kurds would remain in perpetual danger. The Shiites would simply be harvested yearly, in quiet, by Saddam’s police state. The Marsh Arabs would by now have been forgotten in their toxic dust-blown desert. Perhaps Saddam would have upped his cash pay-outs for homicide bombers on the West Bank.

Mohammar Khaddafi would be starting up his centrifuges and adding to his chemical weapons depots. Syria would still be in Lebanon. Washington would probably have ceased pressuring Egypt and the Gulf States to enact reform. Dr. Khan’s nuclear mail-order house would be in high gear. We would still be hearing of a “militant wing” of Hamas, rather than watching a democratically elected terrorist clique reveal its true creed to the world.

But just as importantly, what did these rare Americans not fight for? Oil, for one thing. The price skyrocketed after they went in. The secret deals with Russia and France ended. The U.N. petroleum perfidy stopped. The Iraqis, and the Iraqis alone — not Saddam, the French, the Russians, or the U.N. — now adjudicate how much of their natural resources they will sell, and to whom.
—–
Reading about Gettysburg, Okinawa, Choisun, Hue, and Mogadishu is often to wonder how such soldiers did what they did. Yet never has America asked its youth to fight under such a cultural, political, and tactical paradox as in Iraq, as bizarre a mission as it is lethal. And never has the American military — especially the U.S. Army and Marines — in this, the supposedly most cynical and affluent age of our nation, performed so well.

We should remember the achievement this Memorial Day of those in the field who alone crushed the Taliban and Saddam Hussein, stayed on to offer a new alternative other than autocracy and theocracy, and kept a targeted United States safe from attack for over four years.

Terp Mole on September 22, 2006 at 10:16 PM

Gives weighty perspective to the atrocities committed 5 years ago, when the loss of life from that one day is equal to three and a half years of warfare.

Are we supposed to throw our hands into the air and give up, so that six years from now GWB can do news conferences screaming “At least I tried and failed”?

BlueStateBlues on September 22, 2006 at 10:38 PM

I originally wrote the following letter to my local newspaper when the milestone of 2000 was met. The numbers have changed, but the feelings are as strong as ever in me. (yes, it got published, right after an anti-war letter, to my astonishment);

Terrorism continues, too
November 2, 2005

With the all the mention recently of families mourning the 2,000th loss of loved ones in Iraq, I also think of the families still mourning from 9/11. I also think of the families mourning from the USS Cole as well as others mourning the Khobar Towers bombing.

There are literally thousands of families, American, European, Arab, and Asian, who mourn the loss of loved ones at the hands of terrorists. These terrorists have to be stopped. This war on terror should have been started 30 years ago, before they gained the support and power they have today. Appease them now and imagine the power they will have 10 or 20 years from now.

At the same time as I shed my tears over these 2,000, I also beam with pride that this latest generation has produced such fine young men and women who willingly placed themselves in harm’s way for the protection and liberation of others and have paid the ultimate sacrifice. Their sacrifices are not to be taken lightly, denigrated or sensationalized but deserve to be held up to the entire world as among the finest people this country has ever produced.

As in John 15:13, “Greater love has no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.”

Lew Waters
Vancouver

LewWaters on September 22, 2006 at 11:13 PM

I have a stupid cousin who is at flim school out at UCLA and he has been talking about this “milestone” for about 3 months now. It’s sick really because he seems like a little kid counting the days before Christmas or his birthday waiting for some great, unknown present that will appear. Of course he said he would never fight for his country and if drafted would be on the first plane to Canada or France. It’s punks like this who the lefty libs look too for inspiration as what is great about the young generation, feeling they’re following in their footsteps of a generation that questions why do so many sick bastards think America is so great. Yet they mock those who this time last year were in their Senior year of high school worrying about a date for the Homecoming Dance. Yes, this fine example of a human being is unfortunately my God son and as his mother is my Godmother and has been good to me as well as my husband and now children I feel like I have to put up with this garbage. He thinks he honors the dead by his daily posting of deaths in OIF & OEF on his little punk website. He said he’d like to do a film on the waste of human flesh from W’s war but he just wants to focus on all the innocent Iraqis that have been killed at the hands of the American machine. Darrin does not feel that the military should be honored for their stupidity of buying into Toby Keith’s song about boots in an ass. So, as you can see while there are many brave and noble young people who sacrifice so that this punk can be free there are many who anxiously await the magic number of the 9/11 deaths. Sorry for the long ramble but this just gets under my skin as I know he’s not the only one who is looking forward to this day. We all know the newspapers and channels are waiting to pounce on it and can hardly wait to see what that douche bag olberman will display.

Catie96706 on September 22, 2006 at 11:24 PM

Gives weighty perspective to the atrocities committed 5 years ago, when the loss of life from that one day is equal to three and a half years of warfare.

I call it “Day One” in the WOT. Two countries conquered and two psycho regimes removed since then at a cost of lives equal to the first day sneak attack.

The jihadists see it as “two buildings for us, two of our countries for them”. That calculates to a huge loss from their perspective.

Perchant on September 23, 2006 at 12:25 AM

As many soldiers have died in the three years of this war as perished onne day, June 6, 1944, during WW II.

It is absurd to merely count the dead, as if that is what a war means. It is to count your victories over the mindset of your enemy that matters most

It is there that we are not doing as good as job as the jihadists.

We can kill these vicious scum as fast as we wish, and are doing it quite effectively, even with the giant p.c. kid gloves on, the public opinion-following generals, and the poll-watching politicians leading the hamstrung fight. And a namby-pampy populace so unhistorically ‘educated’ and ‘instant answers’ oriented …about the real costs of warfare… that they focus ‘one inch from the screen’ of the conflict ..instead of standing back and asking:

How do we defeat the Ideas of Islamic Imperialism? ”

Simply adding more dead jihadists to the body count is not the way to succeed in this kind of battle, even though such homicidal lunatics must be killed on the way to victory.

We have to eviscerate the Koran’s terroristic tenets.

Without undoing the sources of this violent, imperialistic dogma (sura 9:5 and 9:29-30, ad nauseam), we are simply cutting off hydra heads, with two more growing back in their places. Thanks to the endless supply of brainwashed, fatalistic suckers-for-Allah coming out of the morally-warped Ummah.

The Psyops side of the war needs far more attention.

We have more than enough munitions.

It is the equivalent cunning and motive we are missing.

Our enemies are dead serious.

And we will be seriously dead until we match their will and wits.

profitsbeard on September 23, 2006 at 12:41 AM

Every one of those lives lost is precious and irreplacable, but historically speaking, 3,000 lives lost in 5 years in incredibly low.

WW1: 50,000 Americans died in one year.

Korean War: 53,000 in 3 years.

WW2: Okinawa, Corrigador, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, Pelileu etc etc.

Every loss of life is tragic, but relatively speaking, you couldn’t get lower numbers unless you fought from the air and sea only.

Tony737 on September 23, 2006 at 1:01 AM

they run this story as if to send the message that since the death toll in iraw has equalled the death toll on 9/11 that the war on terrorism now isn’t worth the price. i thought their position all along was that the war in iraq had nothing to do with terrorism in the first but now they link iraq to the war on terror? anyone else see the hypocrasy here?

also, in the age of terrorism, lives will be lost, period. better to lose those lives in the pursuit of victory than the casual acceptance of aggression from abroad.

liberals are stupid…

wizduels on September 23, 2006 at 1:04 AM

US WWII deaths: ~300,000
Pearl Harbor Deaths: 2117

Number of times MSNBC would have to run a retarded original-death-multiple-grim-milestone article?

141.

DaveS on September 23, 2006 at 1:18 AM

Weren’t liberals predicting tens of thousands of deaths just in the initial invasion?

If we hadn’t liberated Iraq and Saddam Hussein were still in power, liberals would be whining day after day that we “hadn’t finished the job.”

They always want us to do something about threats (Iraq, Iran, NK etc) but when comes down to actually getting rid of the problem using force, they suddenly do everything in their power to prevent the problem from being solved. This concern with numbers of troops killed is simply to force us to pull out and have the problem remain.

januarius on September 23, 2006 at 10:55 AM

Off-topic (but not unrelated), there are some linked stories on Drudge citing the possibility of Bin Laden’s death of typhoid in late August. Might just be empty speculation (like in the past). But it’s sorta gratifying to imagine him literally wasting away in a cave somewhere.

SailorDave on September 23, 2006 at 11:13 AM

On September 11, it took terrorists only hours to kill that many people.

Jackals.

Slublog on September 23, 2006 at 1:34 PM


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