Video: Rangel warns Chavez not to attack “my president”; Update: Gratuitous DU thread added
posted at 1:13 pm on September 21, 2006 by Allahpundit
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This would have meant a lot more coming from a guy who hadn’t referred to Bush in the past as “our Bull Connor.”
His point is actually quite weak. Barack Obama, to his credit, used his trip to Kenya a few weeks ago to criticize that country’s government for its rampant corruption. The nutroots went hog wild over George “Hero for our time” Galloway’s grandstanding anti-American testimony before Congress last year. No one has a big problem with foreign dignitaries insulting the home team — except when we’re two months out from a midterm election and the backlash from those insults is apt to swing a few voters the “wrong” way. Rangel’s noisy display of patriotism this morning was his attempt to blunt that effect.
Still, it’s always nice to see a lefty put country over party. Even if he really isn’t.
Gateway Pundit has video of UN bottom-feeders clapping and laughing during Chavez’s “devil” remarks. The New York Post responds.
Update: Pelosi’s reading from the same script. She’s right, of course.
Update: Chomsky’s book is number four today on Amazon.
Update: Rangel’s office has issued a statement emphasizing that it’s the “personal” attack on Bush that he has a problem with. That’s a strange complaint coming from the master of the “Bull Connor” analogy. Essentially he’s saying that repulsive, cartoonish ad hominems are fine, so long as you’re a citizen.
Update: E.M. Zanotti says it’s no wonder the Dems feel safe in criticizing Chavez.
Hes not threatening to blow anything up. He’s not threatening the lives of thousands of people in the west. At most, he’s threatening the latest Oprah book club selection’s position at the top of the best seller list, or Noam Chomskys good name. Hes absolutely not a problem.
Which means he absolutely requires no solution. As long as Venezeula relies on the United States to buy his oil, his alliance with Iran, a country halfway around the world, are for show, and poor-dresser solidarity. Theres no need to have a plan to deal with him, a comprehensive solution to his dictatorial rule, no need to implement free elections, or even format a battle plan. Not that it wouldn’t be an excellent idea–Venezuela sits on 30% of the worlds supply of crude oil–but its not even near a necessity, so the Democrats have no problem having any moral clarity. They don’t have to follow through on threats.
Update: You’re all waiting for it. Here you go: the DU thread.
Update: Either Fox has themselves a new headline writer or the one they’ve got has been let off the leash. Check these out.
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my jaw just hit the floor
Defector01 on September 21, 2006 at 1:14 PM
holy crap Nancy Pelosi did the same thing!
Defector01 on September 21, 2006 at 1:17 PM
Dear God Nancy Pelosi said the same thing
Defector01 on September 21, 2006 at 1:17 PM
Allah,
You’ll have your “news day” when Dean comes out and says the same thing. I’ll have a heart attack because of the shock.
Jiggity
Jiggity on September 21, 2006 at 1:20 PM
The Democrats realize that the maniacs using their talking points at the UN didn’t quite go over very well.
JammieWearingFool on September 21, 2006 at 1:21 PM
What brand of razor blades does Rangel gargle with?
JammieWearingFool on September 21, 2006 at 1:22 PM
Wow, imagine that, Pelosi, Hillary and now Rangel. The new member of the Axis of Evil may be the great unifier of America.
This is WW3 and it’s looking more and more like WW2 all the time. We have Iran, taking Iraq’s place as Nazi Germany, Chavez trying to be the Italy of the Axis and ‘Lil Kim as Tojo. And now, just as then, we have a Winston Churchill (Bush) who wants to do something about it and we have Neville Chamberlains all over the world kissing Hitler’s ass hoping to be eaten last by the fascist alligator.
Tony737 on September 21, 2006 at 1:26 PM
I think the Democrats want their constiuents to think they’re “tough” on terrorism and despots by saying “Don’t bully my bully because we’re the ones who do the bullying. Bully.”
Kokonut on September 21, 2006 at 1:29 PM
If you read a transcript of their speeches, it would sound like Pelosi or Kerry, or Murtha, maybe Dean, wouldn’t it? Same BS, but I dont know who’s mimicking who?
shooter on September 21, 2006 at 1:30 PM
Quick! Quick, somebody put together a “before and after” Daily Kos or BDS liberals’ comments who hurrahed after Chavez but before Pelosi and Rangel defended Bush and not Chavez’s comments and see what they say about the two.
Kokonut on September 21, 2006 at 1:32 PM
It’s must be disconcerting when people refuse to act like the cariactures they’ve been painted. Don’t worry, I’m pretty sure you won’t think too much about it–how could you possibly not be completely right in your bias??? Duh.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 1:33 PM
I slipped over to DU to see what kind of attacks they’d level at Pelosi and Rangel for turning traitor on their buddy Chavez, and surprisingly found nothing. I suspect they’re momentarily too much in shock to even process what just happened.
Bob Owens on September 21, 2006 at 1:37 PM
Looks like they’re following closely with Pelosi and Rangel:
“JEERS to pungent proclamations. Yesterday at the U.N., Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez took aim at President Bush: “The devil came here yesterday. I can smell the Sulphur still.” Not that we’re thrilled by the notion of defending the Decider-in-Chief, Hugo, but…dude…he who smelt it dealt it. Nice try, Mr. Torchtrousers.”
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/21/84410/4888
Are we in a Twilight Zone episode? Aren’t these the same people who compared Bush to Hitler?
Kokonut on September 21, 2006 at 1:37 PM
Do you find it disconcerting when Bush doesn’t act like Bull Connor?
Allahpundit on September 21, 2006 at 1:39 PM
I knew we were in for a comedy this week, but what I didn’t know was that they’d be stealing from the classic, “Animal House. I can see Rangel standing next to Pelosi, golf clubs in hand as Ahmadinejad and Chavez, in ROTC uniforms, berate Bush…
Rangel - “Hey…They can’t do that to our President…”
Pelosi - “Yeah! Only WE can do that to our President!”
One can only hope that what happened to “Neidermeyer” at the hands of his own troops is what our visitors to the UN face someday.
52Ranger on September 21, 2006 at 1:40 PM
You mean you doubt his sincerity?!?!?
Yeah, me too.
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 1:41 PM
Oh, knockdown!!
Judges, is a member of the HotAir team allowed to win a thread?
(P.S. even though Rangel used Bull Connor in his previous statement, you should’ve used Hitler in your question to honora)
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 1:44 PM
it’s a p.r. job by the dems the same way chavez is doing. that’s all it is
Starblazer on September 21, 2006 at 1:47 PM
trust me, the liberal democrats in this country will go back to bashing Bush, once these morons go back home.
Starblazer on September 21, 2006 at 1:49 PM
Am I just being cynical or do other people think a poll may have been conducted resulting in these comments by Rangel and Pelosi. Like Allah notes, they never seemed to care before….
Karol on September 21, 2006 at 1:52 PM
liberals in this country will always side with the terrorists and those who hate the U.S.
Starblazer on September 21, 2006 at 1:52 PM
All strictly political grandstanding. Everyone of these people have been saying essentially the same thing for years. They don’t think their own words embolden these tinpots to mimic them?? Give me a break.
If we’re ‘losing respect around the world’, it is because the antics of our Bush-deranged politicians encourages that disrespect.
Also, I would John Bolton would take around a couple of House leaders in the U.N. cesspool to find those who showed the most appreciation for the tinpots. They should be carrying U.S. appropriation summaries for each country, telling each that video of themselves at the last two tyrades will be shown at the next budget hearings on their piece of the American pie. Woulkd also like to Bolton the suggest that- to maintain their objectivity- the U.N. should move to a ‘neutral’ country, such as Switzerland (I suppose Antartica is out of the question).
Mike O on September 21, 2006 at 1:56 PM
/Liberal Tinfoil Hat on….
Hey, you evil outsider, you can’t attack Bush!
THATS OUR JOB!!!
How do you expect us to get votes when you say the same things we do???
After all, you sound like a LOON while attacking Bush….
oh…. crap… wait… you sound like…. us…
Dam…..
/Liberal tinfoil hat off….
Romeo13 on September 21, 2006 at 2:01 PM
Not at all. I find Bush incompetent, not at all racist. See here’s the trick–someone I disagree with can at the same time have lots of good qualities. I believe Bush is in earnest, devout, sometimes a bridge builder, great family man. Unfortunately he’s just not the sharpest knife in the drawer IMO and that’s just a real problem. People say Bush sees everything in black and white and ergo he is a man of powerful conviction. Perhaps. You know who else sees things in black and white? People who aren’t too smart–ever have kids? Little kids see things in black and white, only with time do they develop the ability to recognize degrees and complexity.
Hope I didn’t offend you.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 2:03 PM
No, you’re just being realistic. As was already pointed out above, the left cheered on other foreign dignitaries who bashed Bush and they have made common cause (kos?) with Chavez before.
Indeed, other than Joe Lieberman, what other democrat has ever defended Bush against any criticism from anybody (and we know how Joe got rewarded for that).
This is exactly what it was stated as - a completely political attempt by the dems to ward off potential backlash during a mid-term election season, and it’s pathetic and transparent to everyone whether they admit it or not.
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 2:04 PM
Hugo says he wants to tear down our capitalist system and replace it with his own socialist system (then gets a big hug from Danny Glover). He says he wants to give out free heating oil to our “poor”. Hey, Einstein, because of capitalism, our “poor” are rich compared to your middle class. He’s just like Al Capone, buy love from the same people he exploits. Then he says this land belongs to Native Americans … ok fine, but he said it IN SPANISH! Viva El Stupido!
Tony737 on September 21, 2006 at 2:33 PM
The DUmmy thread on this is the greatest reading EVER. Seriously:
E5infantry on September 21, 2006 at 2:34 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364×2187645
E5infantry on September 21, 2006 at 2:35 PM
Don’t worry folks, just a mild case of second hand smoke. You know, a sorta contact high. Like many have mentioned, it will wear off soon, and Charlie and Nancy will be back to normal. Hmmmmm, bad choice of word. Not sure they’ve been normal for quite some time…….
soulsirkus on September 21, 2006 at 2:45 PM
Compared to who? John Kerry?
natesnake on September 21, 2006 at 2:52 PM
I don’t like the guy.
I don’t agree with the guy.
But at this moment, I love the guy.
A typical New Yorker.
Kini on September 21, 2006 at 3:00 PM
Oh I don’t think there is any question that Kerry is more intelligent than Bush. Kerry had other problems. The more telling comparision would be with past presidents. I can’t think of one in my lifetime that wasn’t considerably more intelligent, and intellectually curious, than Bush. Intelligence isn’t everything of course–see Carter, Nixon for example, but IMO exceptional intelligence should be the cost of entry for the most important job in the world.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 3:00 PM
Spot on!! I often don’t agree with Charlie, but he is never boring!!!
honora on September 21, 2006 at 3:02 PM
Really? That being based on what exactly? Higher education institutions? College grades? Military aptitude? Business prowess?
I seem to recall them both attending Ivy League schools (bachelor and masters). Relatively the same grades (C+ students both of them, though it’s argued that Bush had a higher overall GPA). Fighter pilot verses a boat captain (hell I can even navigate a boat). One made millions of dollars in the private sector (oil, natural gas, baseball), while the other made his fortune the old fashion way. He married it.
honora, if you’re going to create a new reality, at least try to make it believable.
natesnake on September 21, 2006 at 3:14 PM
I was on the treadmill at the gym nearly at the brink of total physical exhaustion when I saw that Chavez headline on Fox… I stumbled and was nearly flung backward clear into a mirror on the wall behind me. Just a little more honest than I was expecting, frankly.
Mark V. on September 21, 2006 at 3:15 PM
I’ve got no agrument with that. Double digit inflation and interest rates? Definately not a mental powerhouse.
natesnake on September 21, 2006 at 3:18 PM
Bingo.
Being a fighter pilot requires a lot more intelligence than being a boat captain, not to mention a lot of thinking on one’s feet (so to speak).
They tried making the same comparision with W. and Al Gore, but if my memory serves me, he flunked out of two different grad schools (Harvard Law and Vanderbilt Divinity).
What they really don’t like about Bush’s “black and white” views (as they characterize them) is that he’s not afraid to take a stand, which tends to force others to take a stand as well. Hiding behind “complexity” and “nuance” gives one cover for a lack of the necessary testicular fortitude to make a tough decision - as the Kerry campaign in ‘04 so amply demonstrated.
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 3:24 PM
Rush hit the nail on the head this afternoon, as mentioned in an earlier post on this thread …
He reminded us that Chavez was spewing out the same hateful talking points we’ve been hearing from Dems. The Dems know full well Chavez sounded like them, so they have to distance themselves from his hatespeech. God forbid the public be reminded the Dems sound like Chavez.
Too late though, Charlie and Nancy. We’re onto you and your commie friend.
fogw on September 21, 2006 at 3:26 PM
The response by the leftist America-haters at DU was predictable.
Of course, in America one can smear our President. We have freedom of speech. Go to Venezuela and say the samething about Chavez and his goons will put a bullet in your brain. I’d like to see some of those DU traitors do just that. That’d really be “truth to power” — but it would require balls that these liars, traitors, and cowards just don’t have.
georgej on September 21, 2006 at 3:29 PM
Gee you’re right, that Bush is quite a guy. And all on his own. I make my judgement based on listening to the two men speak. Kerry has a grasp of history and can go deeply–too deeply for most citizens!–into subjects. Bush is all talking points, the cartoon version of history.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 3:36 PM
I’ll give Congressman Rangel credit. He said the right thing. While I disagree with him on most issues, this one he’s spot on. I’ve listened to him on Hannity, and somehow Hannity has a spot in his heart for Charlie. And occasionally, he makes some semblance of sense. I think it’s the military veteran that sneaks it’s way to the top of his consciousness accidentally.
Amazing that Pelosi actually said it too.
webproze on September 21, 2006 at 3:39 PM
Yeah, just like Kerry, who of course never had the benefit of wealthy parents or who was sent to expensive boarding schools or anything like that …
And let’s not mention that as far as his wealth goes, he’s totally a self-made man (Theresa).
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 3:42 PM
Well in that case, James Earl Jones should be the President of the United States. I get goose pimples everytime I hear him speak.
I know this used car salesman that would make a great Vice President. I could listen to his stories all day. Really articulate and has an encyclopedic knowlege of local history and lore. But you know what, at the end of the day, he’s still going to sell you a big piece of crap.
natesnake on September 21, 2006 at 3:50 PM
From DU:
Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-21-06 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #195
199. I’m sitting here in disbelief over the comments about Rangel.
Edited on Thu Sep-21-06 03:00 PM by Connie_Corleone
Calling him a pussy?? Give me a break!
I hate to say it, but I think DU has jumped the shark today.
WELCOME TO CHAVEZ UNDERGROUND!
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Thu Sep-21-06 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #199
203. Nah - they jumped the shark on the truthout debacle….
… this just confirms that they haven’t learned a damn thing…
Geniuses, I say… utter geniuses.
OMG, must be freepers. Ban ‘em mods, ban ‘em.
E5infantry on September 21, 2006 at 3:50 PM
I don’t know about what Rangel said, I’m not sure I agree with his logic that only Americans can criticize the US President - turned around that would mean we couldn’t criticize the president of any other nation.
He missed the boat and sounds like he’s curtailing free speech. It’s not about criticism, it’s about respect, decorum and etiquette. You want to criticize Bush and his foreing policy - fine, but do it like a gentleman and not like an illeterate with no education. This is not high school for God’s sake, this is world politics and the UN. They should really have a code of ethics for expressing about other leaders at the UN.
Rangel and Pelosi are getting CREAMED at DU, only a couple of their members have come to their rescue. I hate going into DU, it always remind me of just how far some people have gone, about how people put feelings for individuals before country. What a sad state.
LaVentanita on September 21, 2006 at 3:51 PM
I don’t like talking this way to people, but use your head. The argument here has to do with relative intelligence–you give me a list of accomplishments re Bush all of which are a direct result of his Daddy. Let’s say the same dynamic holds true for Kerry. Well so now we’re back to relative intelligence–if their accomplishments are tainted in the sense that they both had more than a little help, then clearly you have to look at other measures. I hold that Kerry has a deeper grasp on history and is more at home with dealing with the complexities of issues. Here’s another thing about Bush: he was the son of a highly accomplished and well traveled US Congressman/Ambassador to China/CIA head/VP. Until his father was VP, he had traveled outside the US twice. I can’t understand the lack of curiosity.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 3:53 PM
Wow, the DU is going nuts over this. Hey, honora, what’s up with your buddies? They are about to have a stroke over the Rangeler’s comments. Reading their comments, you’d think they were talking about Rove.
Rick on September 21, 2006 at 3:54 PM
Bush v. Kerry - that ship already sailed (at least Bush’s did - Kerry’s sank)
Rick on September 21, 2006 at 3:55 PM
Yes, and he goes back and forth in trying to make his (ultimate) decision.
Rick on September 21, 2006 at 3:59 PM
I hold that Kerry has a deeper grasp on history and is more at home with dealing with the complexities of issues.
Kerry couldn’t even get his own history right.
Slublog on September 21, 2006 at 4:00 PM
honora, that’s what’s wrong with liberals. You place more importance on words than actions.
That explains the liberal puppy-dog love of people like Che, Castro, and Hugo. Hell, if I read Castro and Che’s writings from early in their revolutions when I was 16, I’d probably be persuaded by their passion. But I didn’t. I grew up. I look around today and see failed communism. I see countries that are worse off than when they “transformed” into communism. I see people so poor and afraid of challenging their government, that they would risk their lives by crossing the sea on shanty rafts. I see people murdered by Hugo because they don’t believe in his government. I see tyranny.
natesnake on September 21, 2006 at 4:02 PM
Honora does the “Chimpy” routine. How typically liberal and elitist.
Let’s see now….Just off the top of my head.
Bush liberates *2* countries from dictatorship (one religious, one secular), both in campaigns lasting less than one month. [His predicessor's legacy is getting blowjobs while blowing up foreign aspirin factories, BTW.]
As a consequence, a third hostile dictatorship, Libya, gives up THEIR nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs.
Bush then wins reelection with the largest number of cast votes EVER. This follows the unprecidented off-presidential year election increase in both US House and Senate seats for the Republicans in 2002, something that had not happened in over a century.
Bush presides over a sustained economic recovery from the double whammy of the CLINTON RECESSION and the attack on 9/11/01; a recovery characterized by record low unemployment and the lowest interest rates in 50 years, this in spite of record high crude oil prices and a global war on terrorism.
Home ownership, with Bush in office, has never been higher, in fact, new home building hit a record high during his watch.
The nation is at “full” employment, with more than 3 million new jobs created in the last 3 years, thanks to the “tax cuts for the rich.”
Tax revenues have never been higher and the deficit is being reduced at a record rate, all because he lowered taxes “for the rich.”
Oh, yeah. Bush is “not the sharpest knife in the drawer,” alright.
YOU KEEP BELIEVING BUSH IS A CHIMP, fool.
And we’ll keep laughing at your denial and excuses on November 8 when the Democrats fail to regain control of even one house of Congress.
Personally, I’ll take a “chimp” like Bush over a whore-mongering, serial sexual predator, incompetent, perjuring, assclown like Clinton, a rank liar like Al Gore (did you know his marriage was the model for Love Story and that he invented the Internet?) OR a “marrying up” gigolo like John Kerry (did you know he served in Vietnam? 4 months!).
HTH. Have a nice conservative day, out of power, forever.
georgej on September 21, 2006 at 4:06 PM
I spent two minutes going through the DU thread & right now some loon by the name of Charles Barron is on Neil Cavuto is yapping the same tune. Chavez is a hero-this is really a strange world.
Catie96706 on September 21, 2006 at 4:07 PM
No, you use YOUR head. Getting clearance to jump in the cockpit of a supersonic fighter jet and take it up for a spin has absolutely NOTHING to do with Daddy. If he was too incompetent to do so as you would love to suggest, he would be dead because airplanes are not the most forgiving vehicles in the world when you make a mistake and that effect is amplified by orders of magnitude when it’s the type of plane he flew.
As for relative intelligence, then why did Kerry get his ass kicked in 2 our of 3 debates with Bush? Why did he choose to fight the election battle on turf that was favorable to Bush instead of distinguishing himself in other ways that were more to his advantage?
As for his grasp of history, the only thing he might have on Bush is more facts and figures, but his policy proposals indicated to me a serious lack of understanding of what those facts meant (hey! let’s give Iran nuclear technology!).
Intelligence can be measured in many different ways, not just in the narrow definition you would choose to use. And in the areas that matter as it concerns being president, Bush kicks Kerry’s ass every time - which is why Bush is a 2-term president while Kerry is just a failed candidate who can do nothing but carp from the sidelines.
Take that one to your next IQ test.
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 4:08 PM
“Getting clearance to jump in the cockpit of a supersonic fighter jet and take it up for a spin has absolutely NOTHING to do with Daddy.”
Not only that, but the F-102 that Bush flew was nicknamed the “widowmaker” because of its unstable slow flight and landing characteristics.
georgej on September 21, 2006 at 4:16 PM
Democrats - “The Cut & Run / Surrender / Raise The White Flag / Pro-terrorists” Party
Starblazer on September 21, 2006 at 4:26 PM
correction : Democrats - “the Cut & Run / Surrender / Raise The White Flag / Pro-Amnesty / Pro-terrorists / Anti-American” Party
Starblazer on September 21, 2006 at 4:29 PM
What!? This was real? I was half asleep on the couch and I remember hearing what sounded like either Susan Estrich or Charlie Rangel say “my President”, but I thought it was all a weird dream.
RightWinged on September 21, 2006 at 4:41 PM
We shouldn’t dismiss the iberals so easily. it iseasy to say they will side with the terrorists, that they hate America etc. But seriously? I do not believe that. These people seriously have their priorities in the wrong place. An average liberal is not about cognitive thought, but about doing what “feels right” and what makes them “feel good”.
If you ask a liberal if they would chop off childs leg with a hatchet, they would recoil. They would say stuff like “Hell No! what sort of monster are you!”
Most conservatives would ask “Why would I want to?”
The liberal reacts from emotion, the conservative acts from thought. (The answer to the conservatives question is “The child is trapped under a burning building, pinned by the leg”
The differnece between the two view points is the immediate reaction. A liberal sees a car accident they may call the authorities. A conservative may jump out to help. Course these are just exapmles. Their are plenty of liberal fireman, paramedics etc. The point is, most conservatives tend to be self sufficient “git er done” types. Liberals are more of the “heads in the clouds what if it were a perfect world thinker types”.
And thats the problem.
War is ugly. It is Cruel. No sane person looks forward to war and death. The liberals avoid war. The conservative sees it as a necasary evil. Liberals believe that everything can be solved by sitting down and talking. Conservatives KNOW that a man running at you with a knife screaming “I AM GOING TO KILL YOU!” is a bt beyond reason, and has to be taken down asap. At least if the conservative wants to live.
Wyrd on September 21, 2006 at 4:42 PM
If you look at the DU thread linked above, you’d begin to wonder.
For many liberals, I think they are just so completely deranged by their hatred for Bush that they will look for validation of their feelings wherever they can find it without thinking about the consequences.
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 4:54 PM
And you keep calling people names and letting your emotions get the better of your breeding.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 5:05 PM
Hey, I’m just telling it like it is.
You *ARE* a fool.
And the funny thing is that you WEAR IT WITH PRIDE!
georgej on September 21, 2006 at 5:21 PM
I’m okay with whatever reasons caused Pelosi et al to take off their Kosmonaut breathing apparatus for a while. Doing something remotely resembling what’s right should be duly noted and applauded.
Honora makes me laugh. What makes me laugh even more is the continued attempts to convince him/her that neither Kerry nor Gore are smarter than Bush. It’s self-evident: both Democrats espouse the proper political beliefs, which means, of course, that they are much smarter than Bush, whose political beliefs are just so incredibly…stupid.
The ability to be glib is now considered the single most important factor in determining how smart someone is. That would surprise some of the programmers and engineers that I’ve worked with. Incredibly bright, sure, but not too easy to follow in a conversation.
Physics Geek on September 21, 2006 at 5:26 PM
I have a hypothesis: the intelligence of a person is inversely correlated to his/her use of capitals and boldface. I have another hypothesis: bullying on the internet is like masturbation–makes the bully feel good and is a sad, sad commentary on his/her life.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 5:32 PM
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man.
It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination.
It is an area which we call “The Twilight Zone“.
SilverStar830 on September 21, 2006 at 5:33 PM
First, there is a difference between being glib and being a thoughtful communicator. Second, I am sure your geek friends are incredibly smart. Nonetheless if they are poor communicators, there would be wise to stay clear of politics.
honora on September 21, 2006 at 5:34 PM
Dear Honora,
Can’t you see that I’m dumbing it down JUST FOR YOU?
Libby-dem fools like you need all the help you can get!
georgej on September 21, 2006 at 5:35 PM
Hmm, maybe things ain’t looking to rosy for the dems come election time.
Iblis on September 21, 2006 at 5:38 PM
I thought Charlie Daniels was goin to appear behind Rangel. Playing “In America”. “And we may have done a little bit of fighting amongst ourselves
But you outside people best leave us alone” Yeehaw! Somebody get my shotugn!
Drtuddle on September 21, 2006 at 5:39 PM
The first thought I had this morning watching Rangle’s press conference was “All Right!” Then I thought about it for a minute. You know, this is still Charley “President Bush will re-instate the draft (even though I’m not saying the I sponsored the bill)” Rangle.
While I appreciate what he said, he is just politicking.
ArkCon on September 21, 2006 at 5:50 PM
E.g., like Kerry, who can speak 1000 words and yet say absolutely nothing … unless of course, you consider that effective communication.
The electorate sure didn’t.
thirteen28 on September 21, 2006 at 5:54 PM
Wow… ever hear the analogy about arguing on the internet and the Special Olympics? It beats your masturbation analogy hands down.
SilverStar830 on September 21, 2006 at 6:14 PM
liberals just don’t get it.there is a war on terror / islamic terrorists want to kill every single american / Saddam “DID” have WMDs / Iran wants to wipe of Israel off the map & yet the liberals of this country want to “talk” to those who want to kill us by sitting at a camp fire & sing songs together & to be “nice ” to them so that they can forgive & forget & to be our friends. they want to get rid of the NSA so that the terrorist cells in this country can have a private conversation to others terrorists in other countries to plan to attack this great nation of ours (of course, some liberals here would disagree with that,i.e. - honora) liberals want to kill the “Patriot Act” so terrorists in this country won’t have their “rights” violated when planning to attack this great nation of ours (again, liberals here would disagree)like they did on 9/11/01. liberal democrats blamed Bush for not paying attention to threat on America before 9/11, well guess what liberals, if Clinton had done his job to kill Bin Laden, when he had the chance - 3,000 Americans would still be alive today & the Twin Towers would still be standing. so if you liberals want to blame someone - blame Bill Clinton!
Starblazer on September 21, 2006 at 6:57 PM
Don’t be too hard on Honora, I don’t agree with much of her views, but she words them well, and is not too prone to insane rhetoric.
The biggest difference between Kerry and Bush is that you always knew where Bush was coming from. He spoke his mind. Maybe not too eloquently, and he was pretty bad with reading prepared speaches, but he is usually clear.
Kerry on the other hand knows all the tricks. He is a great orator. He knows how to stand, he knows all the little nuances of body language. he has the pregnant pause down pat.
But when you listen to what he says, you see he is all talk and no substance. Bush is a rock in the stream. He stands in the water and won’t move. He is solid and usually intractable. Kerry is more like a fart on the breeze. You know he has been their, but you don’t know why, and you don’t know where he stood. Just that he was their.
Kerries voting record and proposed legislature read like swiss cheese. The He missed more votes then just about any other senator. He lost simply because enough Americans saw him for what he is. And the Alternative was alot better.
George, I stay away from DU. Du is like a cess pool. All the shit collects their and festers.
Wyrd on September 21, 2006 at 7:13 PM
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