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[Senator] McCain brushed off talk about who prevailed in the showdown with the White House, saying, “We’re all winners because we’ve been able to come to an agreement through a process of negotiations and consensus.”…

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It’s still astonishing to me that McCain even has a political career. He broke and signed false war crime confessions. WW2 gave us Audie Murphy; Vietnam gave us McCain.

Waterboarding is what broke KSM and RBAS; So let’s outlaw it. Makes sense to me. If I had a societal deathwish.

wordwarp on September 22, 2006 at 1:32 PM

Because he was tortured. Lightbulb.

UPDATE: Brought this post up from June 13 2005 because…well because this latest bit on ABC News proved me correct in declaring that torture works. Now we can well and truly laugh at the absurdity that is Senator Grandstand McCain. Sorry I have lo…

hmmm…interesting comments on RINO’s. John McCain is considered a RINO. He has also served his country, which is more than I can probably say for 90% of the people that post on this website.

So now in order to be a Republican, and comment on Republican policy, one has to have served in the military?
Is being a politician “serving your country?”

And if you have served your country, you can do whatever you want to hurt your country including wasting valuable time on the Senate floor using taxpayer dollars debating the rights of our enemies? During an election year?

Speaking of sh*t hitting the fan… where’s Catie, entagor, SailorDave, and the other *10%* that have “served this country” and regularly post? Speaking of which, let’s hear about your service bentman? I was going to be a nuke sub engineer in the Navy but chickened out / wanted to be able to actually GO ON the things I would have been designing.

Now I work to improve our energy systems. Is that considered “serving your country?”

Waterboarding is what broke KSM and RBAS; So let’s outlaw it. Makes sense to me. If I had a societal deathwish.

As usual, Ann’s sunny dispostion finds the good in all this. If McCain and his like win in the long run we will finally get to put Rosie O’Donnell in a burka. Which is good because I personally never realized the fact that burkas also cover up big fat communist pigs. It’s these little revelations that get me through the day.

Great job Senator McCain, once again you have put your personal political ambitions above the safety and will of the American people. And to think it was only a few years ago that I could not understand why the Bush campaign was so mean to you. Now I know they were holding back.

McCain is the Jack Murtha of the Republican Party.

“Furthermore this theory also gives us insight into our beloved RINO brothers and sisters. The stress of these high profile situations “torture of prisoners” “immigration” brings out their true nature. They fancy that they are Republican’s and maybe even dream about it perhaps when they grow up. But in fact when the going gets tough they pee in their pants and the Moonbat in them comes out. This simply won’t do. We are all standing on the line together and we are relying on the person next to us to tow the line or we all die. We choose these people based on what they say they are and promise they will do. Then the day comes when the line is tested and we look over and find a gaping hole in the line where the RINO once was. I prefer the Moonbat to the RINO. At least I know that I wont include the Moonbat on the line with me.”

hmmm…interesting comments on RINO’s. John McCain is considered a RINO. He has also served his country, which is more than I can probably say for 90% of the people that post on this website. If nothing else give him credit for that. I personally don’t like McCain that much, the immigration thing put me off of him, so I am no McCain apologist.
Just because you don’t believe in torturing prisoners by virtue of the fact you believe you are actually trying to spread liberty and democracy doesn’t mean you’re soft. Stress positions, sleep deprivation and minor things like that aren’t torture, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

If ones fighting ability is proportional to ones political affiliations (i.e. RINO, Republican, Moonbat), I’d take a RINO over a moonbat any day, but it’s not so let’s be honest. But for purpose of your comment let’s say it does…who would you rather have with you when the sh*t hits the fan? McCain or someone like Kerry, T. Kennedy or Boxer? hmmmmm

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The al Qaeda manual

UK/BM-176 TO UK/BM-180 TRANSLATION
Lesson Eighteen
PRISONS AND DETENTION CENTERS

IF AN INDICTMENT IS ISSUED AND THE TRIAL, BEGINS, THE BROTHER HAS TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE FOLLOWING:

1 . At the beginning of the trial, once more the brothers must insist on proving that torture was inflicted on them by State Security [investigators ]before the judge.

1A. Should that fail, ask to speak to John McCain, any RINO, or any Democrat. They will plead for your life. Remember do this for the sake of Mujahideen Adnan al-Shukrijumah, for he will deliver the first Nuke to the great Satan, the United States. It will be a glorious day when 400,000 Americans die – think on those positive ideas my Mujahideen fighters.

2. Complain [to the court] of mistreatment while in prison.

3. Make arrangements for the brother ’s defense with the attorney, whether he was retained by the brother ’s family or court-appointed.

4. The brother has to do his best to know the names of the state security officers, who participated in his torture and mention their names to the judge.[These names may be obtained from brothers who had to deal with those officers in previous cases.]

5. Some brothers may tell and may be lured by the state security investigators to testify against the brothers [i.e. affirmation witness ], either by not keeping them together in the same prison during the trials, or by letting them talk to the media. In this case, they have to be treated gently, and should be offered good advice, good treatment, and pray that God may guide them.

6. During the trial, the court has to be notified of any mistreatment of the brothers inside the prison.

7. It is possible to resort to a hunger strike, but i t is a tactic that can either succeed or fail.

Was McCain ever waterboarded when he was held captive? Bad memory experience?

Kokonut on September 22, 2006 at 10:56 AM

If so then he is unfit to sit on this board… Isn’t Cancer (of the face) about to take him over?

: ) That’s what I read in the newspaper.

Hey, If you have a problem with my question it’s just me trying to contain my anger. So I ask a question, don’t mind the smile on my face.

In other words, are we suicidally stupid, or not?

profitsbeard on September 22, 2006 at 12:42 AM

Is this a rhetorical question?
;)

What McCain experienced in N.Vietnam was very much torture, in that he and fellow prisoners often physically damaged simply for the purpose of being hateful mean.

McCain has permanent physical damage from his torturing. This is much different than what we are doing now when interrogating terrorists.

I’m not advocating torture. I’m just pointing out some facts missing from the national debate, and presented by the MSM.

I’m not sure why we even need physical interrogation, when we have a number of “truth serum” drugs that would do the trick with much better efficiency.

Furthermore this theory also gives us insight into our beloved RINO brothers and sisters. The stress of these high profile situations “torture of prisoners” “immigration” brings out their true nature. They fancy that they are Republican’s and maybe even dream about it perhaps when they grow up. But in fact when the going gets tough they pee in their pants and the Moonbat in them comes out. This simply won’t do. We are all standing on the line together and we are relying on the person next to us to tow the line or we all die. We choose these people based on what they say they are and promise they will do. Then the day comes when the line is tested and we look over and find a gaping hole in the line where the RINO once was. I prefer the Moonbat to the RINO. At least I know that I wont include the Moonbat on the line with me.

John McCain voted to give Social Security benefits to the same criminals that Americans worked their whole lives to receive.

John McCain wants to give constitutional rights to war criminals and does not want our Intelligence services to extract information using aggressive techniques.

Seems to me John McCain, the Manchurian candidate, has proved that he is a traitor to his country and has surpassed Benedict Arnold in his seditious behavior.

Well, a compromise on the detainee interrogations is afoot, and bloggers are weighing in. AJ Strata: It seems that I was correct, all that talk about Bush capitulating to McCain and Graham and other lost Republican Senators was pure spin…….

You’ve probably heard about today’s big “compromise” on detainee interrogation methods, and other than banning water boarding, it seems to have just been putting in writing rules that interrogators were already following for the most part. Of cours…

WaPo’s got the most details. The more I read, the less I think this was some major victory for Bush.

It’s hard to say without reading the actual language of the new/modified bill. And what comes out of the Senate may not be included in the House/Senate conference committee report.

If the Washington Post is reporting on it, it’s probably wrong. Oh, maybe a little closer to the truth than the New York Times, but not much as WaPo shares the BDS needle with their NY colleagues. Neither have much credibility anymore.

On the other hand, Atrios writes: “Yes, McCain sells out the country and Democrats look like crap.”

You have to admit. That’s pretty unhappy.

I’m going to wait until I see the legislation before I comment further.

And I’ll be interested in the House version as well.