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I have recently received a deluge of comments in email about my arguments over Islam, most of them positive. Which is quickly leading me to the conclusion that those who are most anxious to argue with me are not always those who ……

I am still thinking about how to respond in full to Michelle Malkin’s response to me. This may be my entire response, or I may have more to say later. I haven’t decided ……

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Rosie O’Donnell’s religious acumen aside, I have come across a post on Hot Air that calmly and thoroughly asserts the obvious: Christianity and Islam, radical or otherwise, are not in any sense equivalent with respect to their stands on violence. I a…

Bryan at HotAir has a fine essay titled When Atheists and Secularists Quote Scripture.

I probably shouldn’t wade into this, but it does dovetail with something I’ve been pondering lately. Namely, that an essentially post-Christian West comes to …

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Now, while there is much of that in the Bible, you have to take the work as a whole to get at what it really is. It’s God’s Word! Even better, in the Bible God tells us that Christ paid the price for our sins. Sorry Soothsayer, but you’re dead wrong. The reason God punished nations is because they refused to turn to him. This is in keeping with Jesus’ statement that the only unforgivable sin is to reject God. The Bible is based on God’s redeeming Grace, not his wrath.

In addition, James is right above that Christ fulfilled the scriptures. The Law and commandments didn’t change, he makes this clear when he tells the Pharisees that the greatest commandment is “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul. The second greatest commandment is Love your neighbor as yourself.” Sorry if I can’t remember the exact verse, but that’s in the New testament a couple of times. If you look closely, that statement is about as neat a summary of the Ten commandments as you can get.

Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent, but I believe Bryan is correct that too many people critizize Christians without actually understanding the Bible.

For some reason, there are people who want to disbelieve their eyes and ears. Dean is one.

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I’d love to see an Islamic reformation go in the direction of Bill’s Baywatching Iraqi troops, but it doesn’t seem to be happening. If it is, then faster, please.

I would hope you would then use arguments and rhetoric that allow for the possibility of an Islamic reformation. Because arguing that the Koran doesn’t allow for it is not going to help, it will help strangle a reformation in its crib.

Through use of law courts or other means, do it now.

If no one listens, no one learns.

Who the hell ever talked about “moderate nazis”? And such a substitution would really make Bryan’s post look bad. “Finally, I don’t ignore the moderate (Nazis) of the world as Dean insists that I do. I’d love it if the entire (Nazi) world was full of them… I have lauded (Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS) and I helped write the Vent about the courageous women of this war because I am always on the lookout for (Nazi) spokemen and women who can help us deal with the radicals.”

Do you intend to de-Muslimify the Middle East like we de-Nazified Germany?

What part of “the Koran expressely CALLS FOR MUSLIMS TO KILL THE GODDAMNED INFIDELS”, do you fail to understand?

What part of the Koran that expressly forbids killing civilians don’t you understand? There are contradictory statements in the Koran on this, and I don’t understand why so many in the West are willing to carry the terrorists’ water and make theological arguments that Islam calls for the murder of civilians, when an argument can be made the other way.

There is moral equivalence for all moralities except the moralities of the West: Christianity and Judaism

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others -
from Animal Farm by George Orwell

Found at The Arabist via An Englishman in New York. Meanwhile, an argument slightly more important than Titgate is going on, started by Bryan Preston at HotAir, regarding Islam’s inherently violent (?) nature. Follow his links to read responses……

No, watch for the call from the left on the national media to start being something like “we should strive for secularism in this Country so as to avoid the wars that religions bring”. It’s the new Godless mantra I hear.

A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention….

the realistic solutions to terrorism that have to come from shared humanistic values – indc

Dorkafork takes INDC’s view:

Now Bill from INDC has repeatedly argued against a view generally described as “Islam is evil”, a statement on the perceived irreedemability of Islam, which leads to a host of unpalatable policy options, and negative consequences for the War on Terror – dorkafork

Try substituting ‘Nazi’ above. Calling nazis evil certainly reduced the chances of dialogue with the moderate nazis.

FDR decided there was no such animal as a moderate nazi and proceeded accordingly.

Islam is completely defined by the prophet mohammed. To make a moderate muslim, you have to eliminate the part of mohammed that killed the infidel, took captive females for personal use, distributed spoils of war, cursed the Jew, created a tiered system of rights for believer and unbeliever, chopped hands and heads, staked trangressors in the dessert with hot metal in their eyeballs, approved of false witness and hatred of enemies.

If I was asked to believe that except for a system of unequal rights, head chopping, torture, rape, conquest, false witness, and hate based logic, a philosophical system was intrinsically decent, I would reply “Your Mama!”

I give Bran credit for attempting to scale the walls of the moral equivalence fortress.

haakondahl makes a good point:

the fact is that the Republic, Capitalism, and Judeo-Christian values (including, yes, the religions themselves) have wrought mankind’s finest achievement: twentieth-century Western culture.

The key asset of REDEMPTION is why. Even an agnostic can see that. And Islam doesn’t have any. Doesn’t want any.

haakondahl

Redemption is a great incentive. Islam has a system of earned points. A convert who left islam after a divorce said she was so occupied trying to meet all the requirements there was no time to think.

example are the point system related to dogs

Whoever keeps a dog, except a dog that is trained for hunting or a dog for herding livestock, his reward will decrease each day by two qeeraats.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5059; Muslim, 2941; according to another version narrated by them both, “one qeeraat”).

The word qeeraat refers to a large amount of reward; if a person’s reward decreases by one qeeraat, that means that he is sinning, for losing reward is like earning sin, both indicate that something is haraam because of the consequences it leads to.

The impurity of dogs is the greatest of animal impurities. The impurity of a dog can only be removed by washing seven times, one of which should be with earth. Even pigs, which the Qur’aan states are haraam and describes as an abomination (rijs) are not naajis (impure) to such an extent.

How much room is there to maneuver in such a system?

Redemption is not a given,even for the prophet. Meeting the point system is a serious scramble to avoid the wrath of god. Infidels mess up your chances to get a good score. On the website for former muslims, one man said you never knew if you accumulated enough good points to outweigh the bad.

Does this not give rise to a terrible semantic gulf between East and West?

Even as you politely disagree, the islamists watches his point-meter fluctuate as his faith is insulted by someone daring to disagree, and points are lost for allowing an insult to the faith to go by unpunished.

The Koran is full of abrogation because it was written by a man–an idiot to boot. Of course there were contradictions, so he introduced some verse that said “Don’t you know I can change my mind? For I am Allah!” or something, effectively declaring that the latest scripture in the Koran abrogated any contradicting older scripture.

As for abrogation in the Bible, it’s simply not in there. Christ fulfilled the scripture, he didn’t make it go away. For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law until all is accomplished. (Matthew 5:18) The law is no longer necessary for salvation, but it is still righteous in God’s eyes. Christ’s “modification” of the law (i.e. eye for an eye becomes turn the other cheek) spoke of love of the law and selflessness trumping law as necessity.

The Old Testament was indeed violent and Mosaic law included a great deal of capital punishment, but Christ did not somehow make it all go away.

Otherwise, good essay, keep up the good work!

The basis of the title of this post is that it’s consistently atheists and adamant secularists who understand the Islamist enemy the least

It’s an overal good article but I really disagree with that statement from my own personal prespective. I view Theology, Communism, and Socialism falling under the same root causes. The inability to take responsibility for being a human being. A thinking human being. None of the groups are capable of identifying the basis of reality. The all submit to a greater cause than the human individual and never feel responsible for it. All of the inventions and creations made by individuals are seen as works of God, The State, of the Collective. Even Aliens are seen as a replacement for the position of dominance humankind have undertaken.

This time this conflict is not about religion. We already had that war. It’s not about Communism. We already had that war. It’s not about socialism of facsism. We already had that war also. It’s all of them them combined this time. All of the previous enemies are comming together under a unified principal. Without getting into debate or deep discussions at this time. I’ll leave you with a little postscript of mine.

Two Worlds, Two Towers.
One world believed in the freedom and bravery of men, deeming mankind worthy then errected them.

The other world full of selfhatred and fear, ordained mankind unworthy and wrecked them.

Choose your world.