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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55691</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re talking about this? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Or, are you saying that it’s possible that “Direct quote = gross misrepresentation”?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You need to go back to where you decided to open your yap and stick your foot in it, cupcake. Harken back to when you decided to take my name in vain. And you do not have my apology, only my disdain for weak argument fu, and your absolute lack of honor. 

You may think otherwise and, unsurprisingly, you&#039;ll be wrong. 

Good DAY, sir!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re talking about this? </p>
<blockquote><p>Or, are you saying that it’s possible that “Direct quote = gross misrepresentation”?</p></blockquote>
<p>You need to go back to where you decided to open your yap and stick your foot in it, cupcake. Harken back to when you decided to take my name in vain. And you do not have my apology, only my disdain for weak argument fu, and your absolute lack of honor. </p>
<p>You may think otherwise and, unsurprisingly, you&#8217;ll be wrong. </p>
<p>Good DAY, sir!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55672</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should probably stop this now.  I&#039;ll give you the last word.  And accept your apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should probably stop this now.  I&#8217;ll give you the last word.  And accept your apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55668</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Lord!  You actually read my comment and still couldn&#039;t find where I quoted you twice?  I&#039;m unsure how to help you find them.  Look for the quotation marks?  Your words are in between them.  If that doesn&#039;t help you find them, then you are on your own :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Lord!  You actually read my comment and still couldn&#8217;t find where I quoted you twice?  I&#8217;m unsure how to help you find them.  Look for the quotation marks?  Your words are in between them.  If that doesn&#8217;t help you find them, then you are on your own :(</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55644</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I already did that 4 comments ago Pablo.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, you said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I have to say that I mistakenly assumed that when the attack on tiekitwist began, most clear thinkers would make a request for the infighting to stop. Guess I was wrong. What bothers me most is not that Pablo made those remarks, but that others like BlueStateBlues agreed with the attack. Entelechy even suggested Pablo’s comments were so funny that (jokingly) she’d marry him. This is the response, rather than noting that his statements have no argumentative substance and since it is less humorous than just rude, and should be deplored by clear thinkers on the right? Something’s wrong here.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You don&#039;t adress a whit of substance, nor a word either of us said. You don&#039;t like my remarks and you like tiekitwist&#039;s. I get that, Now, I&#039;d like to know which remarks of mine you didn&#039;t like and why, as well as what you find so reasonable about tiekitwists comparison of behavior such as Allah&#039;s virtual flirtations with rape. 

Show me my &quot;flippantly non-factual remars&quot;. Show me my statements that have &quot;no argumentative substance and since it is less humorous than just rude, and should be deplored by clear thinkers on the right&quot;.

Come on, buddy. Put up or shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I already did that 4 comments ago Pablo.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, you said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have to say that I mistakenly assumed that when the attack on tiekitwist began, most clear thinkers would make a request for the infighting to stop. Guess I was wrong. What bothers me most is not that Pablo made those remarks, but that others like BlueStateBlues agreed with the attack. Entelechy even suggested Pablo’s comments were so funny that (jokingly) she’d marry him. This is the response, rather than noting that his statements have no argumentative substance and since it is less humorous than just rude, and should be deplored by clear thinkers on the right? Something’s wrong here.</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t adress a whit of substance, nor a word either of us said. You don&#8217;t like my remarks and you like tiekitwist&#8217;s. I get that, Now, I&#8217;d like to know which remarks of mine you didn&#8217;t like and why, as well as what you find so reasonable about tiekitwists comparison of behavior such as Allah&#8217;s virtual flirtations with rape. </p>
<p>Show me my &#8220;flippantly non-factual remars&#8221;. Show me my statements that have &#8220;no argumentative substance and since it is less humorous than just rude, and should be deplored by clear thinkers on the right&#8221;.</p>
<p>Come on, buddy. Put up or shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55597</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already did that 4 comments ago Pablo.  You chose to ignore it and continue &quot;this little moron dance&quot; of yours, so I decided to play on your terms and make the moron dance a duo.  I know it&#039;s silly and pointless, and not very funny.  Maybe now you know it as well.

But I still accept your apology.  No hard feelings, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already did that 4 comments ago Pablo.  You chose to ignore it and continue &#8220;this little moron dance&#8221; of yours, so I decided to play on your terms and make the moron dance a duo.  I know it&#8217;s silly and pointless, and not very funny.  Maybe now you know it as well.</p>
<p>But I still accept your apology.  No hard feelings, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55569</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Or, are you saying that it’s possible that “Direct quote = gross misrepresentation”?&lt;/em&gt;

No, I&#039;m saying &quot;You have a comprehension problem.&quot; 

Instead of doing this little moron dance, why don&#039;t you try defending your adored&#039;s quote and perhaps providing those of mine which offended you so?

Please, quote me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Or, are you saying that it’s possible that “Direct quote = gross misrepresentation”?</em></p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m saying &#8220;You have a comprehension problem.&#8221; </p>
<p>Instead of doing this little moron dance, why don&#8217;t you try defending your adored&#8217;s quote and perhaps providing those of mine which offended you so?</p>
<p>Please, quote me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55562</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Direct quote.  They can&#039;t be misinterpreted as you made clear a comment ago.  Apology still accepted :).  Or, are you saying that it&#039;s possible that &quot;Direct quote = gross misrepresentation&quot;?

I&#039;d be willing to agree with you on that one.  But I&#039;m accepting your apology, regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Direct quote.  They can&#8217;t be misinterpreted as you made clear a comment ago.  Apology still accepted :).  Or, are you saying that it&#8217;s possible that &#8220;Direct quote = gross misrepresentation&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be willing to agree with you on that one.  But I&#8217;m accepting your apology, regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55526</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Kevin, I wasn&#039;t speaking to you when I said it. I was addressing your damsel in distress, who I surely harmed with my evil pixels on her pure, innocent screen. I offered an apology precisely as valid as the offense, to her not you. A bit of reading comprehension would do you a world of good. 

Now, where are those quotes of things that I said which compelled you to mount an attack of you own, sir?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Kevin, I wasn&#8217;t speaking to you when I said it. I was addressing your damsel in distress, who I surely harmed with my evil pixels on her pure, innocent screen. I offered an apology precisely as valid as the offense, to her not you. A bit of reading comprehension would do you a world of good. </p>
<p>Now, where are those quotes of things that I said which compelled you to mount an attack of you own, sir?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55498</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 16:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo says,
&lt;blockquote&gt;sorry&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Apology accepted!  I&#039;m sure I&#039;m not misinterpreting you, since it&#039;s a direct quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo says,</p>
<blockquote><p>sorry</p></blockquote>
<p>Apology accepted!  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not misinterpreting you, since it&#8217;s a direct quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55232</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tiekitwist tells BlueStateBlues:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t really enjoy repeating myself, but that is a gross misinterpretation of what I said. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Direct quote = gross misrepresentation. 

Whoops, sorry. Didn&#039;t mean to pick on you, honey! Are you gonna be OK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tiekitwist tells BlueStateBlues:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t really enjoy repeating myself, but that is a gross misinterpretation of what I said. </p></blockquote>
<p>Direct quote = gross misrepresentation. </p>
<p>Whoops, sorry. Didn&#8217;t mean to pick on you, honey! Are you gonna be OK?</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55231</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 10:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;No one’s asking you to apologize for being a man, Pablo. We’re just asking you to act like one. You might take your own words, “Grow up” to heart. Picking on ladies (as I believe tiekitwist is, apologies if I’m wrong) is not a sign of being a man. Just a FYI.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m a firm believer in equality, Kevin. I will not &quot;pull punches&quot; with a woman in debate because I won&#039;t condescend to her ability to engage. I suggest that you read the quote again:

&lt;blockquote&gt;To the “conservative woman” who replied to me stating clearly (and I agree with wytammic, rather desperately) that you like it when your men act heterosexual, I say drop that crap like a hot potato. When you start saying things like that, you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And note that &quot;When you say things like that...&quot; refers to BlueStateBlues&#039; comment:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I love men when they are men: intelligent, funny, witty, tough, and unashamed to be heterosexual.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, men being men = men being rapists. Welcome to NOW, and don&#039;t enjoy your stay, you patriarchal pig. They&#039;re going &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.batteredmen.com/batdulut.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Duluth&lt;/a&gt;, from here and they&#039;re not looking back. And we men will just shut up because, well...we&#039;re rapists, who cares what we think?

This is a social disease that&#039;s been creeping into our society for 40+ years and tiekitwist has been kind enough to drop a letter perfect example of it into our laps. You want to defend that, good luck to you. I&#039;m going to condemn it in strong terms whenever I see it.

Meanwhile, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;What bothers me most is not that Pablo made those remarks, but that others like BlueStateBlues agreed with the attack.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Which remarks were those that you have a problem with, Kevin? Please quote them. I see a Khomeni quote about having fun and some lighthearted snark in response to a couple of people telling Allah how to run this blog. What do you see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No one’s asking you to apologize for being a man, Pablo. We’re just asking you to act like one. You might take your own words, “Grow up” to heart. Picking on ladies (as I believe tiekitwist is, apologies if I’m wrong) is not a sign of being a man. Just a FYI.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m a firm believer in equality, Kevin. I will not &#8220;pull punches&#8221; with a woman in debate because I won&#8217;t condescend to her ability to engage. I suggest that you read the quote again:</p>
<blockquote><p>To the “conservative woman” who replied to me stating clearly (and I agree with wytammic, rather desperately) that you like it when your men act heterosexual, I say drop that crap like a hot potato. When you start saying things like that, you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual.</p></blockquote>
<p>And note that &#8220;When you say things like that&#8230;&#8221; refers to BlueStateBlues&#8217; comment:</p>
<blockquote><p>I love men when they are men: intelligent, funny, witty, tough, and unashamed to be heterosexual.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, men being men = men being rapists. Welcome to NOW, and don&#8217;t enjoy your stay, you patriarchal pig. They&#8217;re going <a href="http://www.batteredmen.com/batdulut.htm" rel="nofollow">Duluth</a>, from here and they&#8217;re not looking back. And we men will just shut up because, well&#8230;we&#8217;re rapists, who cares what we think?</p>
<p>This is a social disease that&#8217;s been creeping into our society for 40+ years and tiekitwist has been kind enough to drop a letter perfect example of it into our laps. You want to defend that, good luck to you. I&#8217;m going to condemn it in strong terms whenever I see it.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, </p>
<blockquote><p>What bothers me most is not that Pablo made those remarks, but that others like BlueStateBlues agreed with the attack.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which remarks were those that you have a problem with, Kevin? Please quote them. I see a Khomeni quote about having fun and some lighthearted snark in response to a couple of people telling Allah how to run this blog. What do you see?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Charles G. Waugh</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55160</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Charles G. Waugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez,

     Here we have an issue of gender differences in IQ and nobody talks about it. All you do is drool over two beautiful (and very bright) women. So let me say four things:

     1: If I remember correctly, women used to score higher on IQ tests and in the 1930s psychologists solved that problem by removing those items in which women performed better than men.

     2: Even if an innate difference of 4 points existed, it would not mean all men are smarter than women. IQ is normal curved. If you drew verlapping curves based upon the reported data, you would find about 40% of women would still be smarter than 50% of men.

     3: Within 1/2 a standard IQ deviation (which is typically 15 points) there is no measureable real-world advantage. For one reason, other factors are also important. To wit, women are more likely to seek degrees than men are: currently, there are more women than men in college, getting degrees, graduate degrees, and doctorates. Furthermore, such formal training increases what is called &quot;crystalized&quot; intelligence. So if the study had looked at older individuals it might have found women somewhat more intelligent than men.  

     4. There are many valuable life skills not measured by IQ tests. Creativity, for example. And for some of these, such as reading non-verbal behaviors, women usually do better than men.

     So, in short, as far as I can see, this IQ research finding is much ado about virtually nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez,</p>
<p>     Here we have an issue of gender differences in IQ and nobody talks about it. All you do is drool over two beautiful (and very bright) women. So let me say four things:</p>
<p>     1: If I remember correctly, women used to score higher on IQ tests and in the 1930s psychologists solved that problem by removing those items in which women performed better than men.</p>
<p>     2: Even if an innate difference of 4 points existed, it would not mean all men are smarter than women. IQ is normal curved. If you drew verlapping curves based upon the reported data, you would find about 40% of women would still be smarter than 50% of men.</p>
<p>     3: Within 1/2 a standard IQ deviation (which is typically 15 points) there is no measureable real-world advantage. For one reason, other factors are also important. To wit, women are more likely to seek degrees than men are: currently, there are more women than men in college, getting degrees, graduate degrees, and doctorates. Furthermore, such formal training increases what is called &#8220;crystalized&#8221; intelligence. So if the study had looked at older individuals it might have found women somewhat more intelligent than men.  </p>
<p>     4. There are many valuable life skills not measured by IQ tests. Creativity, for example. And for some of these, such as reading non-verbal behaviors, women usually do better than men.</p>
<p>     So, in short, as far as I can see, this IQ research finding is much ado about virtually nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-2/#comment-55118</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 04:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Sister Toldjah totally rocks huh!  I&#039;ll take you at your word Entelechy and assume I&#039;m misunderstanding the situation.  I was willing to let it go, but my &#039;damsel in distress&#039; button got pressed, and I can&#039;t turn the danged thing off, even when it misfires.  No doubt tiekitwist can handle things herself, but as I said, button pressed...  I&#039;ll bow out of this conversation, much like I said I would in my second to last post.  Maybe this time I&#039;ll mean it :)

Oh dear.  I knew I shouldn&#039;t have mentioned that site, since it seriously detracts from my ability to claim that I&#039;m rational.  I think it&#039;s been hacked or something.  Yeah, I&#039;m going with that.  Hackers!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Sister Toldjah totally rocks huh!  I&#8217;ll take you at your word Entelechy and assume I&#8217;m misunderstanding the situation.  I was willing to let it go, but my &#8216;damsel in distress&#8217; button got pressed, and I can&#8217;t turn the danged thing off, even when it misfires.  No doubt tiekitwist can handle things herself, but as I said, button pressed&#8230;  I&#8217;ll bow out of this conversation, much like I said I would in my second to last post.  Maybe this time I&#8217;ll mean it :)</p>
<p>Oh dear.  I knew I shouldn&#8217;t have mentioned that site, since it seriously detracts from my ability to claim that I&#8217;m rational.  I think it&#8217;s been hacked or something.  Yeah, I&#8217;m going with that.  Hackers!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-55100</link>
		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, Kevin M, the &quot;Bush drinks Kofi&quot; on your site is hilarious :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, Kevin M, the &#8220;Bush drinks Kofi&#8221; on your site is hilarious :)</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin M, there is &lt;em&gt;no reason whatsoever&lt;/em&gt; to ban you. None. 

I even sent you a nice note earlier, explaining that this is just a discussion and no need to fight, or be depressed or disappointed over. I believed ST when she stood up for how nice you are. I still do. I just think that you&#039;re taking this too seriously. It&#039;s all by far not as deep as you interpret it to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin M, there is <em>no reason whatsoever</em> to ban you. None. </p>
<p>I even sent you a nice note earlier, explaining that this is just a discussion and no need to fight, or be depressed or disappointed over. I believed ST when she stood up for how nice you are. I still do. I just think that you&#8217;re taking this too seriously. It&#8217;s all by far not as deep as you interpret it to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 03:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole comment section is extremely disappointing.  A few of us make comments disapproving of a long string of online flirtation.  Allahpundit made his position as clear as I, tiekitwist and wytammic did.  Other&#039;s did as well.  &#039;Nuff said.  End of story?  Hope so.

But no.  Pablo decided it was less important to discuss things rationally and lightheartedly than it was to attack disagreement.  &quot;Thanks, tiekitwist. This place was turning into a web site where people were starting to act like a community.&quot;  Since when does disagreement over a minor issue destroy communities?  I must have missed that memo. &quot;The web needs another dry, personality-free news site.&quot;  Yes, because without knowing who a guy wants to date, there can simply be no humor in the world.  I&#039;m amazed that I never realized that before.

No one&#039;s asking you to apologize for being a man, Pablo.  We&#039;re just asking you to act like one.  You might take your own words, &quot;Grow up&quot; to heart.  Picking on ladies (as I believe tiekitwist is, apologies if I&#039;m wrong) is &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; a sign of being a man.  Just a FYI.

I have to say that I mistakenly assumed that when the attack on tiekitwist began, most clear thinkers would make a request for the infighting to stop.  Guess I was wrong.  What bothers me most is not that Pablo made those remarks, but that others like BlueStateBlues agreed with the attack. Entelechy even suggested Pablo&#039;s comments were so funny that (jokingly) she&#039;d marry him.  This is the response, rather than noting that his statements have no argumentative substance and since it is less humorous than just rude, and should be deplored by clear thinkers on the right?  Something&#039;s wrong here.

Flippantly non-factual remarks like that are funny when pointed at jihadis or ultra-liberal crazies, since there is no possibility of actually reasoning with them, but not when they are pointed at people who share your beliefs in general.  And even in the former case, only &lt;i&gt;barely&lt;/i&gt; funny.  Can&#039;t we leave aggressive non-reasoned attacks to the koskids?  I&#039;m all for reasoned debate.  But we stopped having that early on in this comments section.

I&#039;m a big fan of humor, as my website attempts to prove, poorly.  I just don&#039;t understand the humor of &quot;Boy I really like this girl, she&#039;s hot!&quot; or &quot;This girl winked at me... it&#039;s on!&quot;  Maybe it&#039;s just me (and tiekitwist), but can&#039;t you just disagree with a logical statement?  Or disagree with no statement at all?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m privileged to be able to be here, dunce cap and all. Thanks to MM, AP, Bryan, Kevin, Ian, MKH, everyone at HotAir&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks Silver!  You just promoted me!  Please inform the staff at HotAir :)  I need to use the company jet for the weekend... or is this too soon?

Man, I know I&#039;m getting banned soon.  Darn you, you libertarian tendencies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole comment section is extremely disappointing.  A few of us make comments disapproving of a long string of online flirtation.  Allahpundit made his position as clear as I, tiekitwist and wytammic did.  Other&#8217;s did as well.  &#8216;Nuff said.  End of story?  Hope so.</p>
<p>But no.  Pablo decided it was less important to discuss things rationally and lightheartedly than it was to attack disagreement.  &#8220;Thanks, tiekitwist. This place was turning into a web site where people were starting to act like a community.&#8221;  Since when does disagreement over a minor issue destroy communities?  I must have missed that memo. &#8220;The web needs another dry, personality-free news site.&#8221;  Yes, because without knowing who a guy wants to date, there can simply be no humor in the world.  I&#8217;m amazed that I never realized that before.</p>
<p>No one&#8217;s asking you to apologize for being a man, Pablo.  We&#8217;re just asking you to act like one.  You might take your own words, &#8220;Grow up&#8221; to heart.  Picking on ladies (as I believe tiekitwist is, apologies if I&#8217;m wrong) is <i>not</i> a sign of being a man.  Just a FYI.</p>
<p>I have to say that I mistakenly assumed that when the attack on tiekitwist began, most clear thinkers would make a request for the infighting to stop.  Guess I was wrong.  What bothers me most is not that Pablo made those remarks, but that others like BlueStateBlues agreed with the attack. Entelechy even suggested Pablo&#8217;s comments were so funny that (jokingly) she&#8217;d marry him.  This is the response, rather than noting that his statements have no argumentative substance and since it is less humorous than just rude, and should be deplored by clear thinkers on the right?  Something&#8217;s wrong here.</p>
<p>Flippantly non-factual remarks like that are funny when pointed at jihadis or ultra-liberal crazies, since there is no possibility of actually reasoning with them, but not when they are pointed at people who share your beliefs in general.  And even in the former case, only <i>barely</i> funny.  Can&#8217;t we leave aggressive non-reasoned attacks to the koskids?  I&#8217;m all for reasoned debate.  But we stopped having that early on in this comments section.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of humor, as my website attempts to prove, poorly.  I just don&#8217;t understand the humor of &#8220;Boy I really like this girl, she&#8217;s hot!&#8221; or &#8220;This girl winked at me&#8230; it&#8217;s on!&#8221;  Maybe it&#8217;s just me (and tiekitwist), but can&#8217;t you just disagree with a logical statement?  Or disagree with no statement at all?</p>
<blockquote><p>I’m privileged to be able to be here, dunce cap and all. Thanks to MM, AP, Bryan, Kevin, Ian, MKH, everyone at HotAir</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks Silver!  You just promoted me!  Please inform the staff at HotAir :)  I need to use the company jet for the weekend&#8230; or is this too soon?</p>
<p>Man, I know I&#8217;m getting banned soon.  Darn you, you libertarian tendencies!</p>
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		<title>By: Malpaso</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malpaso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM blows KP out of the water...</description>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-55054</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best Phrase of the Day: &quot;Those who oogle after pretty women.&quot;

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best Phrase of the Day: &#8220;Those who oogle after pretty women.&#8221;</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 01:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Actions:&lt;/strong&gt;

1. AP might like to tease KP, and us, or just to kid around
2. Pablo and some male co. are just, er, being natural
3. tiekitwist and some co. don&#039;t find this so funny/silly
4. BlueStateBlue, MM and some co. spread some adult reality

&lt;strong&gt;Potential consequences:&lt;/strong&gt;

1. Those who oogle after pretty women need to &quot;get a life&quot;
2. AP is obsessed with &quot;any pretty face which comes his way&quot;
3. BlueStateBlues is on a &quot;slippery slope of obviously horrible behavior&quot; if she doesn&#039;t stop nudging Pablo &amp; co. on.
4. Pablo &amp; co. might be on O&#039;Reilley next as accused rapists
5. HOTAiR might be featured on CNN&#039;s Nancy Grace show as a forum for sexual harrassment
6. To most of the rest of us it&#039;s not so &quot;obvious&quot; what this is all about; therefore
7. &quot;drop that crap like a hot potato&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Actions:</strong></p>
<p>1. AP might like to tease KP, and us, or just to kid around<br />
2. Pablo and some male co. are just, er, being natural<br />
3. tiekitwist and some co. don&#8217;t find this so funny/silly<br />
4. BlueStateBlue, MM and some co. spread some adult reality</p>
<p><strong>Potential consequences:</strong></p>
<p>1. Those who oogle after pretty women need to &#8220;get a life&#8221;<br />
2. AP is obsessed with &#8220;any pretty face which comes his way&#8221;<br />
3. BlueStateBlues is on a &#8220;slippery slope of obviously horrible behavior&#8221; if she doesn&#8217;t stop nudging Pablo &amp; co. on.<br />
4. Pablo &amp; co. might be on O&#8217;Reilley next as accused rapists<br />
5. HOTAiR might be featured on CNN&#8217;s Nancy Grace show as a forum for sexual harrassment<br />
6. To most of the rest of us it&#8217;s not so &#8220;obvious&#8221; what this is all about; therefore<br />
7. &#8220;drop that crap like a hot potato&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-55044</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 01:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And before I get jumped on, feel free to replace &quot;girl&quot; with &quot;woman&quot; and assume I meant &quot;woman over 18.&quot; I do not condone a man remarking on the prettiness of underage girls as normal.

That said, jump away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And before I get jumped on, feel free to replace &#8220;girl&#8221; with &#8220;woman&#8221; and assume I meant &#8220;woman over 18.&#8221; I do not condone a man remarking on the prettiness of underage girls as normal.</p>
<p>That said, jump away.</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 01:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
I am saying that the logic you use to defend his behavior could be used to create a slippery slope of obviously horrible behavior. Again, pay attention.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I *was* paying attention. You actually said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;When you start saying things like that, you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So no, you weren&#039;t saying her logic could be used to defend rape. You&#039;re saying she was implying flirtatious behavior is the precursor or companion or indicator of rape. Your extrapolation was outrageous and insulting to both BlueStates and AP. A man noticing a pretty girl, and remarking on her prettiness, is normal heterosexual behavior. Rape is not. Obvious to anybody with a brain, rape cannot be justified by writing it off as &quot;normal heterosexual behavior.&quot; Flirting can. *You* need to pay attention.</description>
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I am saying that the logic you use to defend his behavior could be used to create a slippery slope of obviously horrible behavior. Again, pay attention.</p></blockquote>
<p>I *was* paying attention. You actually said:</p>
<blockquote><p>When you start saying things like that, you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual.</p></blockquote>
<p>So no, you weren&#8217;t saying her logic could be used to defend rape. You&#8217;re saying she was implying flirtatious behavior is the precursor or companion or indicator of rape. Your extrapolation was outrageous and insulting to both BlueStates and AP. A man noticing a pretty girl, and remarking on her prettiness, is normal heterosexual behavior. Rape is not. Obvious to anybody with a brain, rape cannot be justified by writing it off as &#8220;normal heterosexual behavior.&#8221; Flirting can. *You* need to pay attention.</p>
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		<title>By: tiekitwist</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/09/18/video-michelle-debates-which-sex-is-smarter-on-oreilly/comment-page-1/#comment-55033</link>
		<dc:creator>tiekitwist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 01:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BlueStateBlues:
I don&#039;t really enjoy repeating myself, but that is a gross misinterpretation of what I said.  This is the last time I&#039;m going to address this topic.  Please see my reply to Pablo right above your latest comment as well as my original comment.  I am NOT saying that AP drooling over KP and others is the same thing or even on the same level as rape and sexual harassment.  Instead, I am saying that the logic you use to defend his behavior could be used to create a slippery slope of obviously horrible behavior.  Again, pay attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BlueStateBlues:<br />
I don&#8217;t really enjoy repeating myself, but that is a gross misinterpretation of what I said.  This is the last time I&#8217;m going to address this topic.  Please see my reply to Pablo right above your latest comment as well as my original comment.  I am NOT saying that AP drooling over KP and others is the same thing or even on the same level as rape and sexual harassment.  Instead, I am saying that the logic you use to defend his behavior could be used to create a slippery slope of obviously horrible behavior.  Again, pay attention.</p>
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		<title>By: BlueStateBlues</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlueStateBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

&lt;blockquote&gt;When you start saying things like that, you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I made no such implication, but to your logic, Allah talking about KP is the same as raping her.

Quantum leap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<blockquote><p>When you start saying things like that, you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual.</p></blockquote>
<p>I made no such implication, but to your logic, Allah talking about KP is the same as raping her.</p>
<p>Quantum leap.</p>
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		<title>By: tiekitwist</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiekitwist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo:
If it weren&#039;t so pathetic, it would almost be cute how you chose to ignore the context of that statement.  I specifically said that the infatuated oogling over pretty girls that you all participate in here is NOT on the same level as rape and sexual harrassment.  I said that BlueStateBlues&#039; logic in justifying it leads down that path.  Pay attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo:<br />
If it weren&#8217;t so pathetic, it would almost be cute how you chose to ignore the context of that statement.  I specifically said that the infatuated oogling over pretty girls that you all participate in here is NOT on the same level as rape and sexual harrassment.  I said that BlueStateBlues&#8217; logic in justifying it leads down that path.  Pay attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To the “conservative woman” who replied to me stating clearly (and I agree with wytammic, rather desperately) that you like it when your men act heterosexual, I say drop that crap like a hot potato. When you start saying things like that, &lt;em&gt;you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks, tiekitwist. It&#039;s nice to know who hates you.

You don&#039;t buy into the whole equality thing, do you? 

I will not apologize for being a man. I will not submit. In fact, I&#039;ll be over here having a beer and laughing at the silly girl, raging against the patriarchy. 

Grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To the “conservative woman” who replied to me stating clearly (and I agree with wytammic, rather desperately) that you like it when your men act heterosexual, I say drop that crap like a hot potato. When you start saying things like that, <em>you’re implying that rape is just a man acting heterosexual</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks, tiekitwist. It&#8217;s nice to know who hates you.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t buy into the whole equality thing, do you? </p>
<p>I will not apologize for being a man. I will not submit. In fact, I&#8217;ll be over here having a beer and laughing at the silly girl, raging against the patriarchy. </p>
<p>Grow up.</p>
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