Then they can try their worst, nukes and all, and we’ll still be better off in the end.

Even with a few craters where Houston, LA or DC once stood.

It’s the slow jihad, demographic and ideological, that will undo us.

An honest fight, we can win.

But an insinuating infil-traitor Fifth Column of slow-motion sucker punches we are not equipped, philosophically or legally or morally, to handle. (Hamstrung by the “we must be decent even in war-making” mythos and the John McCain self-castrating silliness of “we don’t want to end up like them“.)

As the “prophet” Mohammad said:

“War is deceit.”

To defeat this kind of parasitic pathology we have to read the Koran, read Machiavelli, read Sun Tzu, and answer Islam’s claims to spiritual superiority with world-historical scorn, futuristic cunning, protean animal strength, and a primal survival instinct revived from its dithering multicultural coma.

Can’t the CIA & MOSSAD orchestrate a convincing ‘Bin Laden tape’ advising all Muslims to flee to Mecca this Ramadan- “or face the terrible consequences”?

They want a battle of deceptions, let’s give it to them, tenthousandfold…

Do you have your affairs in order? Have you made the necessary preparations? STUFF to have when the Islamoshit hits the fan……….. I am not Alone……

The fact that we already conduct business as usual all around ground zero is enough to anger them. They would like to make a city a toxic waste dump for decades to show their power.

The United States has 18 Ohio class submarines:
* 14 nuclear-powered SSBNs, each armed with 24 Trident II SLBMs; they are also known as “Trident” submarines, and provide the sea-based leg of the nuclear triad of the United States strategic deterrent forces

* 4 nuclear-powered SSGNs, each armed with 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles with conventional warheads

The 14 Trident II SSBNs together carry around fifty percent of the total U.S. strategic warhead inventory. The exact number varies in an unpredictable and highly classified manner, below a maximum set by various strategic arms limitation treaties. Although the missiles have no pre-set targets when the submarine goes on patrol, the platform, when required, is capable of rapid targeting using secure and constant at-sea communications links.

A British Muslim extremist named Anjem Choudary is stating that Pope Benedict XVI should face execution for quoting from a conversation between 14th Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel II Paleologos and an educated Persian. The Pope’s speech—a lecture…

Mind you, there is some self-interest at work here, as I’m currently sitting in Lower Manhattan…

Show me the mass exodus of Muslims and I might get worried.

I live next to Dearbornistan, Michigan, the highest islamic population the U.S. In the last year, the local big box store has been swamped with (non-assimilated) muslim customers, my estimates on a good night up to 30 percent. In the last 6 months there had been a suddenly increase in the percentage of females wearing a conplete face veil and long robes, rather than the head, arm, leg coverings to the point they were all over the store.

There has not been an exodus, but all at once the veiled women are gone. All gone. A few women with hijab head scarfs, and some with long robes are still there, but zero covered faces. It started a couple days before this nuke warning. The same thing happened on illegal alien boycott day.

When this crowd gets a message, they all lay low at once.

My friends and I have calculated they won’t blow up this area, since there are so many supporters here, and they have invested a lot of money in their ghetto (no english needed). But they are obviously pulling back, whether they have specific information, or they think it is just rumor but don’t want to be the center of attention.

The week of 911 one friend was taken aside by a party story owner (muslim) and told, “I like you, don’t drink any (and he named a famous brand soft drink)”. Again, either rumor, or he knew someone who had threatened to tamper. Honestly, we stopped drinking the product. We will never know if it was tampered with. A toxin added to a large quantity of liquid could be too diluted to poison, or the bottling process could have altered it. The middle eastern community has its own sources, and takes care of itself first above all.

It was local firemen, not local muslims, who were out at traffic lights after 911 collecting money for WTC victims.

Knowing the mindset of the Islamofascist – to nuke NYC or DC would be the greatest glory and show the world that god is on their side. Either would wreck our economy.

RightWing is correct about Ahmajihadist, the guy thinks it’s his job to bring about the Armegedan, Armigedin, Arma … The End Times! … and this will cause the “12th imam” (their messiah) to return and rule the world (what’s left of it) under islam. M.A.D. doesn’t work with this guy. Nuke him now and get it over with before he nukes us OR nuke him later, after he’s nuked us. Thank God (and Ronald Reagan) for S.D.I.

I came across this article on the web:
http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/News/DoSuitcaseNukesExist.html.

It describes our smallest nuclear weapon, the W54 warhead, used on the “Davey Crockett” launching system which had an explosive output of between 10tons and 1 kiloton of TNT.

We’ve heard a lot about Al Qaeda buying black market “suitcase” nukes from Russia. Given that the ability of Al Qaeda to DEVELOPE them from scratch is nill, the odds are that IF they have them, they purchased them already made up from the Russian black market.

Dean Barnett writing in Hugh Hewitt’s blog writes about the possibility of such nukes being functional after all this time, given that these weapons, if they exist must be at least 15 years old by now.

I recommend that you all read Barnett’s piece for background.

Now, it seems to me, naive as I am, that why bother to try to smuggle a nuke into this country when you can make as big a “KABOOM” with fertilizer and fuel oil purchased locally? I mean, why go to all that trouble when a Ryder truck, a ton of fertilizer and a few barrels of diesel would generate nearly the same devestation?

And then I think that there is this as well: If Al Qaeda HAD nuclear weapons, and have had them for the believed period of time, WHY HAVEN’T THEY USED THEM ALREADY?

Weapons in the hands of terrorists are ALWAYS of the “use them or lose them” kind, with the danger of discovery from preemptive strikes against them. When one considers that having nukes would be their most prestigeous weapon and USING them would make them supreme in the Muslim world, why haven’t they used them already?

Instead of running a world-wide terrorist organization from his multi-acre compound in Afghanistan, bin Laden is reduced to making “motiviational videos” and distributing them via human courier.

IMHO, why would they wait for years to deploy one, and why would they risk trying to smuggle it into American, when they could use it in the middle east (Iraq, Israel), or Europe (Spain, Italy, Austria), etc.

That’s why I find the story behind this thread to be dubious. Pray that I am correct!

But they do understand power and they wish to keep theirs.

Point taken. While they do believe, deep down, the same way the terrorists do, or they’d stomp them out, many are power hungry and not suicidal (however Ahmadinejad seems to be looking for the Apocalypse). So yeah, I think you do have a pretty good point there actually.

I agree that God has established Govt’ and it’s job often is to strike anywhere…

I hope Christian missionaries are ready to deploy in droves when Mecca and other sites are hit.

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Can someone say “Ann Coulter” is dead on?

Everyday that we keep NYC is cause for a victory dance.

Well,… actually, that is kinda setting the bar low. And would lead to lots and lots of dancing. Which I’m pretty good at, but I do kinda like a little variety.

So let’s just say that every September 11 that goes by without a major attack on America is a day for a victory dance.

And I’ll dance to that. Heck, I’ll even buy everyone who shows up to watch my dance a beer. Or a Courvoisier. Cuz that’s how EFG rolls. ;-)

The actions of Pakistan pre-9-11 vs post-9-11 are a good example of that. And I would suggest that any backsliding by Pakistan in recent days could probably be explained by a perceived lessening of the seriousness of our resolve and ability to punish transgressions.

Allah provides an alarmism round-up, based on a Pakistani report that al Qaeda is readying an attack, to be triggered by a forthcoming audio cavecast from Big Osama himself. Let’s not rush out to repent our sins just yet, but it appears this kind of p…

I don’t believe a U.N. style “ceasefire” will accomplish anything in the case of terrorism through mass murder.

Lol, not making fun of you, but talk about stating the obvious huh? For starters, the UN is a POS, good for nothing but raping preteen girls in third world countries on a massive scale. But “ceasefire” doesn’t work with terrorists because their thinking goes “All non-Muslims must die, and I will die doing my part”. It’s not just your opinion that it won’t work, it simply can’t. Again, not mocking what you said, just elaborating.

EFG:

However, maybe the above veiled threat would or could persuade the Islamic governments arround the world that it is not in the best interest of them or their religeon to let jihadists do this sort of attack.

This would only be possible if it weren’t for the fact that the members of these governments didn’t, deep down, believe the same way the terrorists do. See my KKK example earlier. If the majority were “moderate” or “peaceful”, the terrorists would be surpressed and all but wiped out. The reason the terrorists flourish is because they are not a tiny minority, as we are constantly told.

E L Frederick:

The problem with MAD, is who do you return fire at? The best we could do is turn the mountains on the border of Afghanistan/Pakistan into a huge crater, but that would piss off Pak/AF, and anyone down wind.

Nuking Mecca would just piss off the kindgom of Saud, and the rest of the Muslims. Iran nuclear facilities would be nice, but it would seem a bit like closing the barn door after the horses leave.

This is why we have more than one nuke. I don’t know if the government would have the nuts, but if one of our cities, any of our cities, is nuked it should be open season. Sorry to be so blunt, but enough is enough. Does anyone think that nuking one particular country or area would do anything but further extremize all other Muslims. Doesn’t matter if we’re justified (and they know it), you know that would happen. The only answer is giving it back 100 fold.

Do a victory dance in the endzone, EFG.