And yet he is a humble man speaking the truth. Only cowards would deny him his voice. A brave Moslem leader would agree to debate Benedict on the subject of his talk about faith and reason.

I think he may find a welcome by Sistani in Iraq, eventually. That would usher in the Glasnost of this century.

If you pray, pray for the success of Benedict’s (and our) challenge.

F. Rottles on September 19, 2006 at 3:16 AM

I’m curious as to what you base that on? He has been pretty arrogant in the past, remember his comments that the only path to salvation is thru the Catholic Church.

Muslim: “You are an infidel and I must kill you in the name of allah, but because allah is so merciful, I will allow you to choose, either convert to islam, or die.”

Pope: “In the name of Christ, I forgive you.”

Muslim: “DIE INFIDEL! I WILL KILL YOU MYSELF! RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW! I KILL YOU IN THE NAME OF ALLAH!”

Pope: “I forgive you.”

Muslim: “AAAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!” (head explodes)

Pope: “Who’s next?”

Basically, this week the pope has drawn a line and has said that one one side is violent conversion and on the other side is the challenge of making the reasoned case for conversion. He is prepared to make his case; he is awaiting a Muslom leader to step forward to make the case for Islam.

This is the leader that has invited Muslims to search for a leader in their faith. A leader, or leaders, of intellect rather than brute force or politically expedient fatwas.

If he is not met on the grounds of respect for human dignity and human reasoning, then, his example can only inspire someone else — not of the establishment in the Moslem world — to takeup his challenge.

Those on the side of forced conversion are not invited to the debate. They may impose themselves with continued threats, and perhaps attempts, on the life of Benedict. He is strong enough to withstand that nonsense. And if he, a mere infidel, can standup to the brutes, then his example may inspire the faithful of Islam to breake free from the bullies and to elevate reason WITH faith and in so doing bring down the WALL.

Turkey politicians have made noises about his intended trip to that country. Let them try and stop him from visiting and walking into the lion’s den. This is no coward, Pope Benedict, and nobody’s fool.

And yet he is a humble man speaking the truth. Only cowards would deny him his voice. A brave Moslem leader would agree to debate Benedict on the subject of his talk about faith and reason.

I think he may find a welcome by Sistani in Iraq, eventually. That would usher in the Glasnost of this century.

If you pray, pray for the success of Benedict’s (and our) challenge.

Pope Benedict XVI appologized from the Catholic Vatican recently, but guess what? That’s right, Muslims are still outraged. Muslim clerics have stated that they are ’still not satisfied’ with the Pope’s apology. Yeah, I&#8…

Yes!

They also leave off the end of full title of the promised posthumous Mohammedan nymphs:

72 Virgins… of Nuremburg.

(Mohammad Atta and his band of airborne psychopaths are surely in their tight and pointed embrace right now.)

I never thought anyone could be more easily offended than Andrew Sullivan, but radical followers of Islam have proven me wrong.CAIRO, Egypt – Al-Qaida in Iraq warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that its war against Christianity and the West……

Well, at least now we know why the Pope wears a dress.

It’s ’cause he needs the extra trunk space….as demonstrated by his recent homecoming speech at the University of Regensburg in Germany, where he was once a theology professor….

  Her last words: Leonella, a nun who devoted her life to helping the sick in volatile regions of Africa, used to joke that there was a bullet with her name engraved on it in Somalia. When the bullet came, she……

I looked into it, and, shockingly enough, it turns out that the pope has also criticized the views of fundamentalist evangelical protestants. Is nothing sacred?

The pope sure seems to be mighty opinionated about religion. And he’s like totally biased in favor of Catholicism, too.

sandberg on September 18, 2006 at 12:43 AM

LOL. It would be great if Benedict would work with the heads of both Islam and Judiasm as an example to the rest of the world that diverse religions can co-exist and even prosper together. This would doubtless be the path JP2 would have taken. This Pontiff is more of an intellectual, less pastoral, so I don’t expect to see it.

New Media An angry Muslim mob greeted worshippers at Sunday Mass at Westminster Cathedral (A Catholic Londoner) Dynamic duo? “Perhaps President Bush and Pope Benedict will join forces to fight the evil of militant Islam much the same way……

-is violence an acceptable method for religious ‘dialogue’?

In Muslim terms:

-is “Paradise under the shadow of swords”?

Now, as always-outraged Islam answers: “Yes!”, the Pope needs to go further and to open the Koran and the Hadiths to those in the West denying the contents of these Muslim texts, and to explore their “eternal” tenets of Islam honestly and critically.

Until the actual precepts of Mohammad (speaking for “Allah”) are soberly exposed, and until the “prophet” of Islam’s well-documented, historically-homicidal behavior is frankly examined, then the world media and global politicians, when discussing such crucial philosophical-theological dilemmas, are merely dancing on their own pinheads. Pretending, to their equally-uninformed audience, that the dogmas of the Koran are probably indistinguishable from the Beautitudes, or Psalms, or Book of Micah.

Why no one in the Press or government appears to have YET bothered to read the damned Koran is a sign of the intellectual derelection of duty shown by our cultural “shieldbearers”. (It is a shorter text than the New Testament, so length is no excuse for their studious indifference.)

The ideological iron is hot and the Pope needs to strike the conceptual metal, now, so that it may receive a spiritually-profound impression -which will last for generations to come.

My prayers are with him.

And us.

Would that be appeasement?

Well, maybe the gumnen offed the Nun because she was a symbol of the Pope, and not because she represents Christianity… and maybe someone around here would like to buy some ocean front property in Arizona… cheap!

Check out the top of this link, for “peace-lovers” in London.

And, the Vatican condemns…

Entelechy on September 17, 2006 at 8:09 PM

Great link Entelechy! Notice how the liberal scum frames the issue in the headline. NUN SHOT DEAD AS POPE FAILS TO CALM MILITANT MUSLIMS! NOT “MUSLIMS PROVE POPE RIGHT!” or “RELIGION OF PEACE KILLS NUN” nOOOOOO! They actually manage to blame the Pope! He FAILS to calm the Militant MUSLIMS. I thought they were “HI-JACKERS”, usurpers of a peaceful religion! Read the many quotes in my post above if you have any questions about this being the “Religion of Peace”.

The pope sure seems to be mighty opinionated about religion. And he’s like totally biased in favor of Catholicism, too.

You go girl!

auspatriotman, I am “very upset and sorry” that my remarks caused you such a reaction. Violence is “incompatible with the nature of God”.

Also, I’d like to award you a special distinction. It is rare indeed that I’m called a fool; it is completeley unique to be called one by a person who’s on my side philosophically/politically. You win that award!

To your request to qualify my statement, I’ll say this – so far only Angela Merkel, the Chancellor of Germany and Father Raymond de Souza (see the last update from AP, above) have expressed support for the Pope and disgust at the reaction toward his lecture at the university, which ends with these words:

It is to this great logos, to this breadth of reason, that we invite our partners in the dialogue of cultures. To rediscover it constantly is the great task of the university.

I agree with what you wrote about our soldiers, whom I fully support, always have and will, and about our President.

And, the Vatican condemns…

Have we learned our lesson yet?

Or do we still have our heads in the sand?

???

There is such a profound irony about the whole Pope-Islam mess. The quotation itself was reasonable and erudite, the response primitive and ridiculous, yet the response criticized the irrationality of the statment. The Pope is the one with mental……