Harvard sits silent while Khatami defends executing gays

posted at 1:54 pm on September 13, 2006 by Allahpundit

A few lines from Yeats come to mind, but they don’t really work. It’s not really “the best” who lack all conviction here, is it?

Khatami, widely considered a reformer in Iran, was often met with applause from the Kennedy School audience…

In response to another question, Khatami also justified his country’s use of capital punishment for acts of homosexuality, but said that the conditions for execution are so strict that they are “virtually impossible to meet.”

“Homosexuality is a crime in Islam and crimes are punishable,” Khatami said. “And the fact that a crime could be punished by execution is debatable.”

The audience responded with silence to his remark.

The subject of the lecture was “Ethics of Tolerance in the Age of Violence.”

Mashhad, Iran, July 20, 2005:


In Somalia, the Islamists just closed down “un-Islamic” radio for playing love songs. In Pakistan, Musharraf’s given up on reforming the country’s rape laws to make convictions possible with fewer than four witnesses. And in the Kingdom, they’ve outlawed the sale of puppies and kittens. Because of “western influence.”

It’s going to be a long war.

Update: Shawn Macomber has an entertaining take on Khatami’s speech at AmSpec. “Mark the time. We got another good one.”

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Gays apparently are no longer part of the left wing/terror alliance.

Valiant on September 13, 2006 at 2:08 PM

The Left will allow any atrocity by the animals of the world so long as they throw in “Bush Sucks” or “America is he Great Satan”, to the moonbats this absolves them of all other trangression.

bbz123 on September 13, 2006 at 2:17 PM

You’ve nailed it.

The “centre” is not holding and the more I look at things the more I wonder if there is not “some rough beast slouching towards Bethlehem to be born”.

Blaise on September 13, 2006 at 2:18 PM

“There’s no doubt that such a matter makes one shudder.”

What is this statement from? Walking a dog, a pet.
Talk about your backwards society.

shooter on September 13, 2006 at 2:21 PM

From your link:

“The prohibition on dogs may be less of a surprise, since conservative Muslims despise dogs as unclean. But the cat ban befuddled many, since Islamic tradition holds that the Prophet Muhammad loved cats — and even let a cat drink from his ablutions water before washing himself for prayers.”

Apparently, even Muhammed wasn’t conservative enough for the jihadis.

Blacksheep on September 13, 2006 at 2:26 PM

Hmmmm ….. the feminists were/are quiet with respect to the treatment of women in muslim land. Now statements of “criminal” homosexuality are met with an “approving” silence. I wonder how far the nutroots will go to stay away from touching this.

darwin on September 13, 2006 at 2:41 PM

I think the reason the Left is silent on the brutality of the Islamofascits is that in their hearts the mooonbats full embrace the multi-culti concept because it gives them a free pass to have their own little cultures and take no flack for it.If they were to come out and say that these actions by the Iranians is wrong and bad they fear that their protection against reality and morality will be sullied and they are loathe to going down that road,so they sit back and allow it to happen out of fear of losing their own little safe niche.

bbz123 on September 13, 2006 at 2:54 PM

And in the Kingdom, they’ve outlawed the sale of puppies and kittens. Because of “western influence.”

It sounds like the Grammaton Clerics have infiltrated the House of Saud. If they start torching people’s secret caches of kitschy knick-knacks, we’ll have all the proof we need!

Kralizec on September 13, 2006 at 2:57 PM

I’m gonna be charitable here, and assume that we’re talking about the stunned silence of a group of well-meaning folks where were just shocked to find out that what the right has been saying all along is true. They are even as we speak reavaluating long-held beliefs in a spirit of fairness and accuracy.

Hey, it could happen!

Bob's Kid on September 13, 2006 at 3:01 PM

Wow, amazing…

Eastern Europeans I also hear are very macho… Serbs and Croatians, Russians and all… they all apparently beat homosexuals in the streets when they march.

Homosexuals have it good here in the States. Well that might only be because of Compassionate Conservatives.

Did the Taliban Student give a speech at Yale… Did he bash women and say they are no good at the subject of Mathematics?

ar_basin on September 13, 2006 at 3:02 PM

Wonder if Queers for Palestine were in the crowd

Defector01 on September 13, 2006 at 3:05 PM

Ahhh, an allusion to “Equilibrium”. . . most often used by the left to describe, what they consider, to be the eventual outcome of the “Bush theocracy”. When faced with exactly the sort of behavior they project on the right, their response is silence.


MCPO Airdale on September 13, 2006 at 3:19 PM

Gays apparently are no longer part of the left wing/terror alliance.

Valiant on September 13, 2006 at 2:08 PM

If you’re talking about the gay rights movement left wingers you’re wrong. They’re more affraid of losing their ability to make out in public than they are being hanged apparently.

Kinda makes you wonder where their priorities are.

One Angry Christian on September 13, 2006 at 3:20 PM

Now, if they were to play some Red Hot Chili Peppers before the execution, I’m sure the outrage at Harvard would be deafening, rather than silent.

Sasnak on September 13, 2006 at 3:22 PM

Meanwhile in wacademia, Leftists are shocked (shocked!) by flag burning… Iranian flag burning;

Burning for Attention: Three students organize a flag burning to highlight injustice

On a day of national remembrance, three students burned the Iranian and North Korean flags in front of Arlington Hall in protest of the political regimes of both nations.
Pamphlets were distributed to ensure observers that Kennedy, Gaddy and Kloster were not attacking the people of these two nations, but rather the regimes.

“I don’t want to be labeled as a racist or bigot,” Kennedy said.

Passersby offered comments both for and against Kennedy’s statements. Some students also held signs reading “Do not give them attention” and “Turn your backs” in opposition to the protest.

Philosophy freshman Chris Atwood, in response to the burning, shredded and spat on the Texas flag after the rally. The flag read “Try burning this one, assholes.”

Atwood said that while he supports Kennedy’s right, he acted in counterprotest to the issue at hand.

“They expected me to sit down and be quiet,” he said.

Biology senior Felicia Kasra, who was born in Iran, said the burning of the flags was an inefficient way for the protesters to get their message across.

“It shows that they were ignorant in their ways of making their points,” she said. “I personally felt victimized, because I was born in Iran, and the flag represents the people.”
History senior Monica Owiti said she thinks the idea of burning flags is ridiculous.

“If they had done more research, they’d understand this is stupid,” she said. “We’re supposed to be spreading democracy, but this [flag burning] does not do it.”


Terp Mole on September 13, 2006 at 3:33 PM

Haven’t you noticed that liberals only protest wishy washy Republicans who make “anti-Gay” statements? They were largely silent on Eddie Murphy, whose
early concerts included some hilarious parodies of homos. Only when they were successfully able to get enough gays working at Paramount were they able to effect his “bottom line” and he recanted. That and his penchant for guys wearing dresses on Santa Monica Blvd at 3am! MIKE TYSON used some of the most egregious, vile and hysterical language to disparage those he thought were gay at press conferences, “Come up here you nasty faggot, I’ll fuck you till you love me!” But like the pantywaists they are, liberals were afraid to take on either Don King (Tyson’s promoter) or Tyson himself because both of them would have told the silly fags to go circle jerk each other. Here they sit trembling in fear, urine staining their underwear, as they sit in front of someone who has actually KILLED SODOMITES! Yeah, I can see them rising in protest now, ROFLMAO.

Allow me to “revise and extend” a previous comment that is so brilliant, it needs to be said again.!

In the chest of a liberal beats the heart of a coward. They’re all little nothings that got their lunch money taken as kids, they wouldn’t fight for themselves then and they won’t now. You think Maher and the rest of these liberals who’ve been floating the trial balloon of “why don’t we just convert to Islam” are kidding? They aren’t. These cowardly punk asses have been so “bent over” by their continued advocation of Sodomy that they are about as good in a fight as tits on a bull. So weak and spineless are they that they even seek to change the meaning of, RUNNING AWAY IN MIND NUMBING TERROR WHILE DEFECATING IN THEIR YELLOW LIBERAL PANTS. They now want this to be called “RE-DEPLOYMENT”.

Soothsayer on September 12, 2006 at 4:51 PM

Soothsayer on September 13, 2006 at 3:54 PM

Given the grade inflation at HU, I’m not surprised the morons couldn’t comprehend what was being said. They were all wrapped up in the novelty of seeing one of those colorful third world natives in their own auditorium.

Iblis on September 13, 2006 at 6:00 PM

Martin Niemoeller

“First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”

I think that about sums it up.

labwrs on September 13, 2006 at 6:09 PM

labwrs, thank you for such a sobering contribution!

Entelechy on September 13, 2006 at 7:27 PM

O.K. Where is Andrew Sullivan? Where is he hiding? What has he to day? Maybe, just maybe he might get a little light shine on the subject of: Islam=dead gays.

sharinlite on September 13, 2006 at 7:32 PM

Wasn’t it nice of the liberals to give Khatami a platform to use in defending the execution of gays? I personally think that there were too many in that crowd worried about losing their heads.

Harvard Capitulates To Extremist Homophobia. Film at 11:00

DannoJyd on September 13, 2006 at 7:39 PM

It’s not like he said women weren’t good at math. Now that would have been a firestorm.

Islam loves women that multiply well.

Hening on September 13, 2006 at 8:30 PM

It is probably better for kittens and puppies not to be sold in the kingdom. If a muslim doing ritual cleansing before prayer is touched by dog saliva, he has to start over. A muslim vet complains about people bringing in their dogs before Ramadan for euthanesia to purify the home, including a dog brought in for euthanizing with its legs wrapped in plastic so it would not defile.

entagor on September 13, 2006 at 11:34 PM

So, I guess Rosie is less concerned about Islamonutbags killing gays than conservative christians tut-tutting at them…kinda like abu-ghraib all over again. We put panties on their heads and we’re just as bad as Hussein who put them in paper shredders. That is a good question though..where is Andrew Sullivan? Ah, who cares.

austinnelly on September 13, 2006 at 11:47 PM

Soothsayer, I’ve enjoyed your posts in the last few days.

I’d like Messrs Hitchens and Sullivan to debate the visit and, thus, this topic would be inescapable. Now that would be fun!

Entelechy on September 14, 2006 at 12:30 AM

Over coffee this morning I mentioned the Harvard ‘silence’ to a liberal PHd’d colleague. She said “don’t you think they were polite and silent to grant him the freedom of speech?”

My reply “they already granted that to him by having him there; do you think they would have been polite and silent if Ann Coulter would have said that?” She didn’t answer and just stared at me…

Entelechy on September 14, 2006 at 1:35 PM

This is quite a conundrum for gay liberals. They support every anti-Christian group out there including the jihadists. NOW what are they going to do? They’re not welcome in the islamofascist tent. I guess they’ll have to settle on being verbally challenged by the American evangelicals instead of being butchered by the radical Muslims.

Mojave Mark on September 14, 2006 at 6:17 PM