Bush speech/”Path to 9/11″ open thread Update: Bush video added
posted at 8:34 pm on September 11, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Go ahead and have at it. I’ll add video of the president’s speech here later, and possibly a very short snippet of Pt9/11’s dramatization of the attacks.
Update: Here’s something to help the discussion along.
Update (Ian): Michelle posted the President’s full address.
Update: The speech was awful. It’s the thousandth iteration of the same old crap and never has it rung less true. Even he didn’t look like he believed it. If you can’t rise to the occasion on 9/11, when can you?
I’d have skipped clipping it entirely if the boss hadn’t promised her readers video. But she did, so here’s 2:15 worth salvaging. Bush praises the troops, futilely and pathetically tries to appeal to Democrats by invoking FDR and Harry Truman, and asserts that Americans on 9/11 were “united in prayer.” I’ll take his word for that; I was two blocks north of the towers when the attack began, and by the end of the day, godly thoughts were the furthest thing from my mind.
You want to watch a speech? Watch this.
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Glad to see they mentioned the USS Cole.
flyboy777 on September 11, 2006 at 8:39 PM
Sherry Palmer is Condi Rice? Hmmm.
JammieWearingFool on September 11, 2006 at 8:41 PM
As long as the Pubbies are in charge history will show that Bush did the right thing. It may take 50 years, but sooner or later the world will wake up to reality.. But, if we elect the dhimmicrats, history will be rewritten by islamic throatcutters after they take over the nation and replace the Constitution with that vile roll of toilet paper they call the koran.
God bless America.
Tony737 on September 11, 2006 at 8:48 PM
Liked the use of Patricia Heaton… a rare conservative in Hollywood.
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 8:57 PM
I’m not sure how much longer I can watch this miniseries – the camera work is making me nauseous.
It’s pretty easy to see that what a large part of what led to the attacks five years ago was bureaucracy, not entirely the policies of any one administration.
Slublog on September 11, 2006 at 8:58 PM
I wonder if moussawi (who gies a rat’s if I spelled it wrong?) really said “I have my rights.” Just like the punkass little muslim bitches in England on 7/7 when they were cornered by the cops.
Hey, flyboy triple 7, who do you fly for? I’m a SWA F/A.
Tony737 on September 11, 2006 at 9:00 PM
Slu, I think that’s part of the gig. Clinton followed a bureaucracy in light of overwhelming reason not to .. and, here we are.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:01 PM
Yeah, that’s a good point.
Slublog on September 11, 2006 at 9:01 PM
As I posted in the other thread: it seems to be tonite is dedicated to “Bush didnt want to listen”
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:01 PM
Seered!?
No shit he just said that.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:01 PM
Let’s hope Karen “Stilted Prose” Hughes had no part to play in this speech.
Slublog on September 11, 2006 at 9:02 PM
Honoring the heros .. .goos start
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:03 PM
Once again, Bush stats that Saddam wasn’t involved in 9/11.
Take that, nutroots.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:07 PM
“If we pull out … they will follow us.”
Exactly.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:08 PM
There’s your “wall”, lab.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:10 PM
“We have torn down THE WALL”..yep..one of the things that helped the terrorists
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:10 PM
*G* YO..yes…go rot Jamie Gorelic!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:11 PM
HA!
Terrorists are afraid of old men and little girls.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:11 PM
Not a class of Civilizations but a “struggle for Civilzation”..great line
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:12 PM
Damn! Years of using stability to promote peace has delivered neither (paraphrase).
Bush is putting a quiet smackdown on all of his critics.
It’s about time.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:13 PM
GREAT analogy tying this struggle of Democracy in the ME to WW2 Europe! BRAVO!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:13 PM
Great history lesson, esp. with FDR.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:14 PM
This is a GREAT SPEECH! Plain, historically referenced and solid..GO MR PRESIDENT!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:14 PM
FABULOUS LINE” We look to the day when the governments in that part of the world dont look to their oil (or riches) as their greatest resource but see that their PEOPLE are their greatest resource”…
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:15 PM
Heart wrenching story of the mother, her sons and their lost father.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:17 PM
OH WOW..”their attacks were designed to bring us to our knees..and it did..BUT NOT IN THE WAY THEY INTENDED”
SIMPLY PERFECT!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:18 PM
Damn near poetic, if you ask me.
Who wrote that? It was perfect.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:18 PM
Really? I suppose it’s a little odd at some parts, but hasn’t bothered me too much. What I’m really impressed with is the music. Very dramatic and pulls you in.
True, but I could right a book on Clinton’s opportunities to get Bin Laden which at the time was much more important than it is now. Oh wait, someone already wrote that book didn’t they?
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 9:18 PM
Oh great..Stephanopolis HAS to bring in the elections in his commentary…..grrrrr
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:19 PM
That is SO right YO! They are, arent they? Being a woman I have always paid attention to that aspect of their “religion”..women are SO powerful they MUST be locked away and hidden…sheeeeeeesh
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:20 PM
besides “righting” a book, I could also “write” one.
/dumbass
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 9:20 PM
Not bad, as Bush speeches go… at the same time, I can’t help but wish that we had Ronald Reagan to deliver that speech. He could turna phrase to melt the most hardened political hack.
-Bryan @ Sanctuary
Prophet on September 11, 2006 at 9:20 PM
Great Speech! Now back to the show…
Joe on September 11, 2006 at 9:20 PM
Pardon my obsession, but is anyone else furious that there has been no mention of Able Danger (unless I’ve missed something)?
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 9:21 PM
lab, that’s the only response he could use.
Bush’s speech was a liberal handcuff.
The use of Kerry’s line about Christman in Cambodia was pure magic.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:21 PM
Can’t believe it took me until now to realize that the guy playing George Tenet is the dad from The Wonder Years, Jack Arnold.
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 9:23 PM
RW – forgive my ignorance, but where does the whole Able Danger gig stand, anyway, on verification? I haven’t heard anything for a while, and the last that I did hear was still in the ether.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:23 PM
From the abovementioned article,
Funny thing is, the Le Monde article did not in fact express any goodwill towards America whatsoever. As John Rosenthal of the Transatlantic Intelligencer wrote,
Read the rest, and especially take note of the “cartoons” running in Le Monde in the weeks before 09/11/01.
Niko on September 11, 2006 at 9:23 PM
OK..so he got “shoved out the door”..the implication is by BUSH..when it was Tenet, right?
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:24 PM
… heh …
“…do they have to humiliate me, too?”
Was that a baby-dig at the NYT?
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:24 PM
I think “Able Danger” wasnt covered too extensively..no one really wanted it to get “out” so if I am not mistaken, the 9-11 Commission just glossed over it
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:26 PM
Allah, are you going to post the whole speech? Damnably, I missed it to due to frittering away my time on cooking dinner. Anyway, anybody who knows where I can find the whole thing, either on the web or on TV later, please shout.
Anwyn on September 11, 2006 at 9:27 PM
Yo, Anwyn … here.
Ian posted it in the update.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:28 PM
Personally, as someone who used to be involved during the Clinton/Bush response to terrorist attacks such as the USS Cole, African Embassy bombings, etc., I’m not impressed. In the immediate aftermath of 9/11/2001, we should have identified the top five targets in Islam (i.e., Mecca, Medina, Qom, etc.) and carpet-bombed them with nuclear weapons (one in the center, at least six in a concentric hexagon, and ten more in a concentric circle). (For the uninitiated, nuclear weapons are NOT the “end of the world” weapons they are hyped to be.) THEN, and only AFTER “then,” we should have “informed” them that their refusal to surrender any surviving members of the Jihadis would result in the continuing eradication of their “religion of peace.” After that, I would reduce their population centers if they refused to cooperate. Admittedly, I’m a MEAN SOB. If they went from 1.2 billion to less than .5 billion, I think they would get the message (and if that means taking out Indonesia, so be it). If they didn’t get the message, well, a surviving quantity of .2 billion just actually MIGHT get the message through. Maybe then the “moderate” Muslims would GET the message?
But, since we (as a nation) don’t actually GET the Jihadist message of the threat we face, then we (the evil, mean, wicked, and nasty American people who aren’t willing to surrender and live on our knees to Jihadist masters) had better start buying ammunition for our personal weapons, because we will be fighting them HERE instead of THERE. It doesn’t actually matter whether you are a Bush supporter or not, since Bush and his idiots chose to deliberately ignore (until lately) all of the American legal precedents to dealing with these idiots in the manner that they SHOULD be dealt with. (That’s a different personal rant, but I can guarantee everyone that many people in government understood this threat by 2000, but the “political appointees” refused to listen to us “Government bureaucrats,” notwithstanding the fact that WE had served in the military (and not only as military lawyers, but as infantrymen).
To some degree, maybe we should appreciate the fact that they (the “Islamists,” or “Islamofacists,” or lately down-played to “Extremists”) tell the truth about their goals. Our own pandering politicians cannot bring themselves to tell the truth.
To quote a local religious broadcaster, “Not a Sermon, just a thought.”
Not a Dhimmicrat on September 11, 2006 at 9:29 PM
Niko /strong>
I lived in Paris 2002-2004, there is no such thing as “squandered goodwill”. Those who liked us before (UK, eastern European newly freed countries, etc) STILL like us..and others like Denmark, Portugal, Poland , Italy but the appeasers..esp Benelux area and France, Germany, Spain..never really changed.
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:30 PM
Not one of the President’s best delivered speeches, but the content was good.
I’m tired of all the big graphics that TV networks feel the need to put at the bottom of the screen. “Presedential Address.” Really? I wouldn’t have noticed had they not taken up 15% of the screen with a banner telling me so.
skwired on September 11, 2006 at 9:31 PM
NAD, reducing the 1.2 to .5 billion, after a nuke strike would certainly have meant a .5 billion person jihad.
It only took 19 to bring down the towers.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:31 PM
Thanks, yo–I meant the video of the whole thing. :) But yes, I will read if I can’t watch.
Anwyn on September 11, 2006 at 9:32 PM
Not a Dhimmicrat
I completely agree..when we found most of those guys were Saudis, we should have levelled Mecca..and told them..any more of this crap and Medina is next. After that, we make a list and if you act up ..we act DOWN.
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:32 PM
Ok .. based on what I’m seeing .. even if we’d have killed bin Laden by this point in the movie, 911 was already planned and dated. Would have kililng bin Laden in August of 2001 stopped 911?
Color me naive, but I doubt it.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:33 PM
Was there a trairtor in Massoud’s camp?
BELGIAN..ALWAYS suspect BELGIAMS!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:34 PM
lab, NAD,
what about the law-abiding muslims in the States who would almost certainly respond to the nuking of Mecca?
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:35 PM
Another thought …, if bin Ladne could get Moussad without international aid, why couldn’t Moussad do the same?
Esp. considering that Miller interviewed bin Laden. Same trick, right?
Did I miss something?
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:36 PM
So that is how it happened..more or less. *sigh* One would THINK we could root out some non-indigienous ARABS…..
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:38 PM
YO
Not only Miller but many have interviewed him…one would think we could do something….and I hope we are. I have to believe we are..still..needle in a haystack.
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:40 PM
Oh, because I’m an anal prick I want to point out an inconsistency I found in the movie which is totally irrelevant… Did anyone see anything odd in the background, out on the tarmac at the airport when the hijackers were doing their flight class? There was an Independence Air plane taxiing. That airline didn’t exist until last spring/summer after it dropped out of the “commuter plane” biz and dropped the name Atlantic Coast Airlines.
I know partly because I liked to fly the discount carrier from Nashville to VT because Jet Blue didn’t go to Nashville. But I also know because I bought 1,500 shares of FLYI (Independence Air) stock about 1 year ago this week (at an average of .27/share) before the airline filed bankruptcy shortly after and then decided to liquidate. I think it the problem was a virtual impossible situation with skyrocketing oil prices for a brand new airline.
Anyway, just thought that was kind of funny (I’m probably the only one) when I saw that in the background.
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 9:40 PM
needle in a stack of needles, if you ask me.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:41 PM
What about the law-abiding Japanese when we nuked Hiroshima? Frankly, I would think they understand. All we hear is the “strong horse, weak horse” thing from Muslims. And they MUST finally be taught..actions have REACTIONS.
Altho we went into Afghanistan and Iraq, we honestly have not struck the heart of them..and that would do it!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:43 PM
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:43 PM
The japanese are, on the whole, rational people.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:44 PM
“Hold these bags off the plane until they’ve boarded.”
Another example of how difficult it is to fight an enemy that wants to die.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:47 PM
yo,
OK. agree there BUT, we havent yet struck somewhere it would REALLY hurt them. And I guess I am thinking here of the Saudis and their spreading Wahhabism. Look what happened with Pakistan and Libya when we were going into Iraq..they CAVED..they were SCARED.
We need a STATEMENT..not now but should anything happen in the USA again and we find that it the perps are Muslims..bye bye something BIG..
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:47 PM
I dont think I want to watch the rest of this….I dont want to see this..but I guess I need to see it.still..
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:48 PM
lab,
The statement made by nuking Mecca is that the West is out to kill all Muslims.
That spells only one thing: backlash of biblical porportions.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:51 PM
and, lab … you have to watch it.
Never forget, right?
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:52 PM
yo,
What are we seeing now? Look at the attitude around the world in Muslim lands especially today..frankly..I think it would be a good idea.
I am watching yo..I just dont want to..but I will.
I still have “United 93″ downstairs that I bought on Saturday. I havent been able to watch it yet either
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:55 PM
“There’s firetrucks headed that way.”
“I love you Son”
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:57 PM
I’m seeing in the faint distance .. shrouded in the mist of propoganda and misinformation, a very slight glimmer of hope.
Nuke their holy land and that hope goes away.
Pakistan, a mulsim nation, has nukes. It’s not as one sided as you might think.
I don’t think I could make it through United 93, or WTC. This is bad enough.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 9:57 PM
Oh. Dear. God.
The second plane.
Cellphones going dead..first responders rushing to the scene…how can we ever forget?
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 9:58 PM
… cheap, fucking cheating bastards.
How can one forget when it’s not possible to stop remembering?
To note Dr. Rusty, this isn’t a tragedy, it’s an atrocity.
There’s a big difference.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:00 PM
The powerful line this anniversary/President Bush will be remembered by:
How elegantly a civilized writer told the terrorists how archaic and stone-aged they are. Powerful insult! The PC elite/police could have a field day with this.
On the article about international ’support’, the most laughable line, by Angela Merkel:
Politicians and prominent people should analyze what speech writers hand to them – for any German leader to use this is risible in a deplorable way.
Entelechy on September 11, 2006 at 10:00 PM
I want to see it too, yo, I REALLY do.
And you are right, it is emotion that talks but ..and this is a BIG but..one more and all bets are off I think.
So now this decrepit old man is Cheney? OH PLEASE!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:01 PM
Cheney as a sheep? Why isnt this part ringing true?
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:02 PM
Maybe the Dems were so pissed because this WASN’T a Bush hit piece.
As for Allah’s update .., dude, you think it was THAT bad? you’ve heard it, we’ve all heard it, many times before, but to those who aren’t political junkies, I thought it had some thump to it. IE, it probably was thgouth fodder for my mother.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:04 PM
No….the United 93 part is heartbreaking
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:05 PM
SO…the ONLY person in charge that day was WHOM?
The VP didnt say a word..the General was cowed? Condi is silently listening to the play by play?
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:07 PM
Hi Entelechy!
You are right..great comment!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:08 PM
I think that speech is just as bad. “And on behalf of the American people, I thank the world for its outpouring of support. America will never forget the sounds of our National Anthem playing at Buckingham Palace, on the streets of Paris, and at Berlin’s Brandenburg Gate.” Actually, that moment of support lasted probably as short as it takes for a car to honk his horn after a traffic light switches to green in New York city. “I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It’s practiced freely by many millions of Americans, and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah.” Please. Fucking please.
I think in that speech Bush set the groundstone for many of the delusions that now make the War on Terror so tough.
Niko on September 11, 2006 at 10:09 PM
Oh no..the Priest…..John O’Neill…all the people on the planes..all the first responders….NEVER FORGET..NEVER EVER EVER FORGET
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:10 PM
I’ve seen the footage of the collapse hundreds of times.
It’s never failed to put a dagger in my gut.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:11 PM
labwrs, in San Diego they’re showing the Charger game tonight, instead of the 2nd part of the ABC version (not to worry I know the original, unedited one) – however, I’m living through tonight’s version, via your reporting and the others’ :) They’ll show the last part next Saturday :(
If you’re ever in San Diego, come visit!
Entelechy on September 11, 2006 at 10:11 PM
Niko
I have said from the beginning that we are trying to fight a war on the “nice”..the sooner we stop..the sooner it is over. But we arent that way..we arent brutal deep down inside..we dont send our children to be human bombs..we dont condone terrorists taking over schools and shooting kids in the back…we just dont do those things. And because we dont, it will be a much much longer struggle.
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:13 PM
Entelechy
I most certainly will! I believe that tho..we are forgetting too soon
OMG..Deena’s husband calling from United 93 “We are going to do something..I love you”
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:15 PM
It’s over.
John O’Neills body was found in the rubble…now the 9-11 report…”Government Info Sharing..grade D”..DUH…thanks again Jamie Gorelick!
9-11 Commission:”We Believe the terrorists will strike again”….lots of black and white photos and then fade out to disclaimer
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:17 PM
Yup, that was the definite tear jerker.
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 10:19 PM
I don’t think people are forgetting, too soon, lab. WE’re all well aware of what happened; but, when people use 911 as a political tool, it tends to nullify the pain.
Not to sound all sappy and such, but this kinda’ pain needs to thrive within those who experienced it, so that over the course of this long war, we’ll be able to remind those who have forgetten, what the hell we’re fighting for, and against.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:19 PM
9 of 10 said 911 changed them.
Is that last person completely devoid of a soul?
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:20 PM
Entelechy,
Merkel also said that the War on Terror must be pursued while heeding international law, tolerance, and respecting “other cultures”. In this very same speech she also remarked that the world could follow Germany’s example, one of which being the instantiation of an “anti-terror database”. What that is? Glad you asked. That database will solely record Muslim permanent or temporary residents of Germany, their occupation, information on bank accounts (incl. transfers), employment status, telecommunication records (incl. internet usage), and much more. In other words, such measures would be considered fascist slash totalitarian if not illegal in America.
Niko on September 11, 2006 at 10:20 PM
From the AP story:
What a disingenuous prick. Sure, I guess you could say “many” residents hadn’t seen much improvement, but you could probably also say that “many” residents enjoy sexually molesting goats. That line has no place in an honest story.
Only 9 months ago, ABC news published this poll:
DaveS on September 11, 2006 at 10:21 PM
OK AllahP..perhaps I am a sucker or gullible or just WANTED to hear something from our President but I have to disagree..I thought it was a very very good speech. I didnt agree with all of it but I thought it was a good speech for today. He isnt the best..I wish he had the gift of Reagan or Blair or even Clinton..but he doesnt..and still..I disagree..I think he spoke from the heart. I watched as much of the coverage today as possible and I saw him at all these memorials..he looks a bit tired.and who wouldnt after spending the day like that? I dont know….maybe I am delusional but I liked it.
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:21 PM
LOL … watching the ABC show after the movie, and something completely immature struck me:
Al-Zwahari, Bin Laden’s #2.
A big, steaming pile of bin Laden’s #2.
And, then of course, is the Austin Powers bathroom scene.
Gadan! Can someone shove a rake up that loser’s ass? He’s the prime example of a smart guy who, for the life of him, couldn’t get laid.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Well All, it has been a pleasure…not a joy. I need some downtime after this day.
YO..have prescient..
Straight to the point and absolutely correct!
Thanks HOTAIR for the chance to “vent”…
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:24 PM
I’m even more pissed about the ommission of Able Danger’s role, sense they decided to give the Commission report card at the end. Who the hell is the commission to grade anything? They practically refuse to acknowledge Able Danger.
For those asking where it stands, I’m not certain, but I assume Weldon hasn’t let it go. Wikipedia offers this.
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 10:24 PM
YO.. I meant HOW presicent..I meant it that was very well stated..sheesh..tired typos!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:25 PM
Later lab.
And yeah, much appreciation to the HotAir folks for allowing us looneys to run around on thier playground.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:25 PM
RW,
Yes, the “report card” was disgusting and not at all necessary BUT hey..it’s politics right? grrrrrr
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:26 PM
RW – calm down, man. Take a deep breath.
The 911 Commission was a CYA job.
Don’t fret it, man. Even if they did show Able Danger, no one who didn’t already know what it is, wouldn’t know hat to make of it.
I agree with you, but … *whew* … I don’t know if I have room for any more anger, right now.
yo on September 11, 2006 at 10:28 PM
Nite All and GOD BLESS the USA..and especially those wonderful men and women who pay the price for ME every day..Freedom isnt free and yet..I have never been asked to pay anything. Someone else has done that for me..so THANK YOU to all of them! THANK YOU for my Freedom..THANK YOU for my Life..THANK YOU for your calling. God Keep You Safe!
labwrs on September 11, 2006 at 10:28 PM
also, this part of wikipedia’s Able Danger entry offers more on those testifying to it’s identification of Atta, etc. as well as one who admits to destroying (after being orderd) all Able Danger data.
What would their motivation have been to make this story up? Less than a half dozen guys that only stand to look like idiots if they were lying. I really hope that something is still in the works on this.
RightWinged on September 11, 2006 at 10:31 PM
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