I don’t see any sense in worrying what the handful of “fence sitters” think. Way too many things have happened for these people to be “fence sitters” anyway. It appears very obvious what side they’re on.

darwin on September 5, 2006 at 5:12 PM

Well said, DannoJyd.

Lawrence on September 5, 2006 at 5:24 PM

Please, your Excellency, Mr. Annan, forgive me, I misspelled your first name s/b ‘Kofi’.

Entelechy on September 5, 2006 at 5:34 PM

Nice words from the President, but I think we need action too. I’ve seen precious few actions backing up the words. Now I know some actions will be covert and perhaps forever unknown, but it seems like all we’re getting is talk.

ScottG on September 5, 2006 at 7:10 PM

Calling fascists, fascists! Well done dubya.

RobCon on September 5, 2006 at 10:47 PM

I can’t understand how a Christian like Bush thinks he knows more about what “true Islam” is all about than the Muslims who live it.

But I’ll cut him some slack since he called them perverts.

Perchant on September 6, 2006 at 12:11 AM

Peaceful religion?? Where is the outrage from the ‘moderate’ muslims about the ‘radicals’ that are ‘hijacking’ thier religon? Either the whole religious body is completely confused or there is an underlying fact that our politico’s are scared to speak of publicly.
IMHO :
Muslims = ReadKoran(Life)
Koran = Extreme(Muslims)
If (Fascism = Mulsim.Practice())
{
Kill.Infidel(West)
}
TakeAdvantage(Press.American.Left)
If (Press.American.Left == True)
{
Press.American.OurFriend()
}
Allah.Akbar
Hope you all understand :-)
PS - Go Get Dave Limbaugh’s new book. Great ammunition!

lsutiger on September 6, 2006 at 1:28 AM

There are no moderate LZVandys.

Mark Jaquith on September 6, 2006 at 7:28 AM

I was having a hard time explaining this to my liberal friends either because it’s so complex or because they’re so dense. Anyway, I tried a new approach:

Muslims who blow stuff up are the ones who follow islam the way is meant to be practiced, like a “good Catholic”. The muslims who DON’T blow stuff up are like “Easter Catholics”. Even Easter Catholics will still cheer for Notre Dame when they’re playing, right? “Ramadan muslims” will still cheer for their “team” (terrorists) when they’re “playing”. Easter Catholics are still Christians. Ramadan muslims are still muslims and they still root for their “team”. They identify with our enemies and their unholy book, that roll of toilet paper they call the koran, says it’s justified to lie to us infidels to advance islam, never forget that. It also tells them that when losing a battle, ask for peace, then regroup, rearm and attack again. Watch them carefully, they can’t be trusted.

Tony737 on September 6, 2006 at 9:19 AM

I started thinking about this whole Nazi business Bush is pushing on his “This Time with Feeling” tour: leader of country with economic malaise and growing fear of globalization and infiltration by “others” stokes existing fears and focuses feelings of rage and impotence among population against a non-Christian religion. People of this faith are tarred with the same brush with breathtaking ignorance:

All Muslims I know, have heard of, or read about, all support the same Quran and the same Mohammed, and the same Allah. All believe that the world is destined to fall under the rule of Sharia law. All believe that it is NOT sinful to kill infidels. All believe that any method of dying for the sake of their religion guarantees them a seat in heaven, especially if they are killing or murdering infidels

But I’ll cut him some slack since he called them perverts.

They identify with our enemies and their unholy book, that roll of toilet paper they call the koran, says it’s justified to lie to us infidels to advance islam, never forget that. It also tells them that when losing a battle, ask for peace, then regroup, rearm and attack again. Watch them carefully, they can’t be trusted.

Food for thought: Jews were disproportionately represented in the leadership ranks of the Bolseviks and in banking circles in the 20’s and 30’s. Imagine going from that to genocide…..thank God we’ve grown as a civilization.

honora on September 6, 2006 at 10:41 AM

I can’t wait for the feminists to “support” this - talk about “moderation” and “fence-sitting”

Entelechy on September 6, 2006 at 11:15 AM

I would welcome a debate, but if all you’ve got is the tired moral equivalency argument, it’s just a waste of everyone’s time.

Guess it’s time to blow the dust off Patrick Henry’s great song again. Enjoy.

IrishEi on September 6, 2006 at 11:52 AM

Link won’t work. Here it is:

http://www.patrickhenrysongs.com/ItsInTheKoran-WindowsMedia-HiFi.wmv

IrishEi on September 6, 2006 at 11:53 AM

Sorry, Honora, Jaquith and other intellectually bankrupt libs lurking around here - your so-called “arguments” are so riddled with generalities, name-calling and porous logic as to be beneath a dignified response. However, at risk of getting something smelly on my shoes by even engaging you here, I have to wonder whether libs like yourselves and other Kos Kiddies are displaying actual breathtaking ignorance, or worse, a level of incomprehensible stupidity that prevents you from rationally analyzing factual information. Which is it? Ahh.. maybe just the typical product of today’s liberal education/indoctrination - the complete inability to think.

Benthoven on September 6, 2006 at 12:26 PM

You’re absolutely right. I’m going to slowly back out of the room now….

honora on September 6, 2006 at 12:38 PM

Irish, of course you can use it. Matter O’Fact you can even claim it :-)

Honora, ignorance is not knowing. But we DO know. We have 1,300 years of history PLUS the koran itself PLUS the hadiths (post-koranic writings) PLUS the terrorists own words on what they wanna do and how they plan to do it. They’re following the same playbook that muslims have been using since about 635 AD. You can disagree all ya want, but please don’t come in here with that “You guys are ignorant” crap. I don’t know how much research you’ve done on islam so I won’t accuse you of being ignorant on the subject, but I’ve been watching it, paying attention to it and reading up on it since 1979, so please don’t don’t accuse me of ignorance. Debate me, yes, please, that’ll be fun, entertaining and interesting, but don’t call me ignorant. Thanks.

Tony737 on September 6, 2006 at 12:49 PM

Sorry, Honora, Jaquith and other intellectually bankrupt libs lurking around here - your so-called “arguments” are so riddled with generalities, name-calling and porous logic as to be beneath a dignified response.

I’m not a liberal. So I guess that makes you the intellectually bankrupt name-caller. Kidding.

LZVandy said this:

You can’t be a moderate and a muslim at the same time.

Islam must be outlawed in America!!!

These are extreme positions (and ignorant and bigoted to boot). I called her out on them. Spare me your cookie-cutter “liberal education, inability to think” rant.

Mark Jaquith on September 6, 2006 at 1:35 PM

I saw it NTWR. It’s on again Thursday I think.

Excellent show. Left me fuming! Couldn’t fathom that it took so long for everyone to catch on to that dirtbag. And worse–reminded me of all the times we did absolutely nothing when Americans and American interests were attacked.

It’s In the Koran. Indeed.

IrishEi on September 6, 2006 at 2:49 PM