NYT suckers KP by carving up Rumsfeld’s speech
posted at 4:38 pm on August 30, 2006 by Allahpundit
So I was over at Kirsten Powers’s blog, pining away, when I stumbled upon this bit of unwarranted snarkiness. Emphases mine:
The NYT’s reports on Rumsfeld’s latest broadside against those who are in touch with reality:
“Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld said Tuesday that critics of the war in Iraq and the campaign against terror groups ‘seem not to have learned history’s lessons,’ and he alluded to those in the 1930’s who advocated appeasing Nazi Germany.”
He really shouldn’t talk about Robert Novak, George Will, and William F. Buckley Jr. like that. Not nice at all. I may not agree with them on most things, but calling them appeasers is just not nice.
Yeah, it’s not nice. It’s also not what he said. Here’s the transcript. Quote:
There was a strange innocence about the world. Someone recently recalled one U.S. senator’s reaction in September of 1939 upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland to start World War II. He exclaimed:
“Lord, if only I had talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided!”
I recount that history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism. Today — another enemy, a different kind of enemy — has made clear its intentions with attacks in places like New York and Washington, D.C., Bali, London, Madrid, Moscow and so many other places. But some seem not to have learned history’s lessons.
Note: not Baghdad or Fallujah, although I certainly would have included them on the list. And note: it’s not “critics of the war in Iraq” but “some” unspecified segment of the population he accuses of not having learned history’s lessons. Would Powers herself deny that that’s true? She’s a Lieberman supporter, for Christ’s sake. She knocked the nutroots “fringe” not five days ago for believing that the UK terror plot was concocted to distract the world from Little Neddy’s primary win in Connecticut. Has she changed her mind?
Or did she make the very foolish mistake of trusting the Times to represent accurately what Rumsfeld had said?
More from the Times article:
Mr. Rumsfeld’s speech on Tuesday did not explicitly mention the Democrats, and he cited only comments by human rights groups and in press reports as evidence of what he described as “moral or intellectual confusion about who or what is right or wrong.”
Here’s the passage that quote comes from. He’s talking about Haditha and the rape and murder of the young Iraqi girl at Mahmoudiya:
[I]n every army, there are occasional bad actors, the ones who dominate the headlines today, who don’t live up to the standards of the oath and of our country. But you also know that they are a very, very small percentage of the literally hundreds of thousands of honorable men and women in all theaters in this struggle who are serving our country with humanity, with decency, with professionalism, and with courage in the face of continuous provocation. (Applause.)
And that is important in any long struggle or long war, where any kind of moral or intellectual confusion about who and what is right or wrong, can weaken the ability of free societies to persevere.
I.e., just because we have some bad people in the military doesn’t mean we’re the bad guys, especially vis-a-vis this particular enemy. Would Powers disagree with that? Will she not at least acknowledge that Rumsfeld’s rhetoric about appeasement doesn’t accuse anyone of being unpatriotic or cowardly, as so many lefties often claim, but merely “confusion”?
I see now there’s a lot more work to be done here before KP joins us on the right. A lot more.
McQ caught the Associated Press doing the same type of hatchet job on the very same Rumsfeld speech; read it now if you missed it earlier on Instapundit. Meanwhile, the morons at “Countdown with Keith Olbermann” are planning a special commentary tonight on Rumsfeld’s speech; I’m on the mailing list (don’t ask) and received this hot bulletin a few hours ago:
Things have changed since we sent out today’s newsletter… worth noting.
Keith will have a commentary on Donald Rumsfeld’s “fascism” remarks.
It’s a must-see edition of Countdown.
No doubt it’ll be scrupulously fair to, and representative of, Rumsfeld’s actual remarks. Check in at Olbermann Watch later. I’m sure they’ll have the heavy artillery out for this.
Update: No doubt thanks in part to the attention McQ’s post has been getting, the AP has rewritten parts of its article about Rumsfeld’s speech.
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VorDaj on May 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Surprise!
rob verdi on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Sooooo…
… What does one do on such a slow news day?
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Truth for power! Hillary 2016!
rob verdi on May 13, 2013 at 5:35 PM
All in the family…..
ted c on May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
I see. But it’s really a vast right-wing conspiracy?
John the Libertarian on May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
it’s all good
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cmsinaz on May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM
the liberal democratico-entertainment-newsmedia complex is more concerning than Eisenhower’s military industrial complex.
ted c on May 13, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Hand in glove
The sun shines out of our behinds
No, it’s not like any other love
This one is different because it’s us
forest on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM
It’s no surprise NBC is just a cheap slut.
Marcus on May 13, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Kind of makes you wonder what is really going on behind the scenes…
… doesn’t it?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Obowma was getting fitted for his uniform…
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Apparently the AP guys don’t have anyone working there too.
Bishop on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM
NBC’s White House correspondent is Ben Dover.
aunursa on May 13, 2013 at 5:40 PM
Maybe that’s where the AP screwed up. No White House hostage.
Cicero43 on May 13, 2013 at 5:41 PM
The GOP needs to eefectively shut down the government until the administration comes completely clean on the Benghazi, F&F, AP wire tap, and IRS issues.
NO legislation, NO judges, NO approvals of any sort until they have the answers they want on this WH’s activities. If he is going to act like a child, treat him as one.
Tater Salad on May 13, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Fox News red-headed step sister clearly.
hillsoftx on May 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM
I’m not so sure this level of incest is business as usual for the democrat party. I think the Obama administration purposely hired all these relatives of execs so they would have more influence over the networks. After all, you wouldn’t want to run with negative coverage on a story if it would get your son fired from his cushy government job.
Wigglesworth on May 13, 2013 at 5:44 PM
He already had that fitted some time ago. Just awaiting the most appropriate moment to present himself to the nation in its inaugural appearance.
hawkeye54 on May 13, 2013 at 5:45 PM
If you think it’s bad now, just wait until Obama’s third term.
John the Libertarian on May 13, 2013 at 5:46 PM
This could explain why the other AP got their phone records seized.
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Unexpected!
PattyJ on May 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Since I can’t tell the difference between the two….
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Nah, the WH probably already has their communications devices bugged. No one is immune. Least of all those already in Barry’s house. In the back of your mind you always have to keep a closer eye and ear on those closest to you.
hawkeye54 on May 13, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Movin’ on up….
Movin’ on up…..
To a deluxe White House…in the sky..high..
Electrongod on May 13, 2013 at 5:51 PM
This is what happens when 99% of journalists are liberal. You get what you sow…lies and more lies…
kirkill on May 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM
I finally figured it out…Hugo Chavez died of tyrant envy!
cajunpatriot on May 13, 2013 at 5:52 PM
How about this?
aquaviva on May 13, 2013 at 5:53 PM
i know THREE, personally, guys named ben rhodes.
t8stlikchkn on May 13, 2013 at 5:54 PM
FDRs 7th
carters 2rd
nixons 3rd
rolled into one
t8stlikchkn on May 13, 2013 at 5:55 PM
And here I thought the most inbreed tyrants were the Game of Thrones Lannister clan…
Bruno Strozek on May 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM
I moved to get away from Chicago and then the ignorant imbeciles elected bat face to the white house who subsequently turned the damn country into Chicago.
tom daschle concerned on May 13, 2013 at 5:57 PM
May the clusterfarks all beget travesties.
They are destroying the land.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 5:59 PM
finally!!! completion of the white house and media circlejerk
burserker on May 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
I think I remember this movie coming out in the eighties.
All I’m saying.
Axe on May 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Celebs like Timberlake and Biel make their livings playing make believe. I am sure going along with the fairy tale of Obama is easy for them to do.
Rockshine on May 13, 2013 at 6:00 PM
It’s the Prog big tent..!
Grennell has been all over this on Twitter…BTW, wasn’t he the guy that Romney let go..?
d1carter on May 13, 2013 at 6:01 PM
Nothing to see here! Move on . org…………..
GarandFan on May 13, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Incest, at the highest levels.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Andrea Mitchell sleeps next to the money corps.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:05 PM
There seems to be pressure building on the MSM to go after Obama. I would love to know where this flood of negative coverage is coming from. This is the kind of stuff that used to happen to Gingrich or Palin.
It’s almost unthinkable to see this happen to Obama.
Doomberg on May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Carney is a huge conflict of interest…well, tha’s the least about this Goebbels of the WH.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Russia laughs her collective azz off, so does the world.
The US has zero moral authority and decency left. Obama killed them, on purpose.
Clowns inhabit the WH. The fools who brung them deserve them in full.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:07 PM
The two top stories on HA, one next to the other, are prefect for the times.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM
WORTH REPEATING:
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
There is NO socialist-bias in the MSM.
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…yeah – in your dreams!
TeaPartyNation on May 13, 2013 at 6:08 PM
Someone lifted the covers and found…the media and the gov’t in bed.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:09 PM
The Emperor’s News Clothes.
profitsbeard on May 13, 2013 at 6:11 PM
It gets better
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:13 PM
Seven Percent Solution on May 13, 2013 at 6:15 PM
This seems pretty apropos to our media and most media consumers in the US: Priorities
AZfederalist on May 13, 2013 at 6:19 PM
The trolls are verklempt today.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:25 PM
Which makes it every other day ending in “day”.
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 6:25 PM
More inbred than a European royal family.
I expect in about 30 years, you’ll see a news anchor who’s four feet tall, with a three-inch underbite, bulging eyes, and an Adam’s apple that looks like he swallowed a doorknob.
CurtZHP on May 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM
Is there not a market out there for a network that would really present the “news” without spin? I divested my stock in GE years ago when they went lib and wrote a letter to I Melt. I would think shareholders would demand to make a little money on their investments. When 50% of the people don’t watch you no matter what, there is a problem.
hip shot on May 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM
You misspelled “she”.
Steve Eggleston on May 13, 2013 at 6:38 PM
“Nattering Nay-Ho’s of Negativity”. Against Conservatives anyway.
chickasaw42 on May 13, 2013 at 6:43 PM
What you don’t know is how they’re hiding the lizard skin.
lester on May 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Just give me a chance, I’ll put the Science in Poly Sci!
You see, science has the answer.
The Founders wanted no restriction on the press so the vermin knew exactly where they were going to move in.
Species can develop into vermin if introduced into regions where they find favourable living conditions, and if they face few or no natural enemies there. In such cases, humans often choose to fill the role of the predator to limit the danger to the environment. Examples of vermin include goats on the Galápagos Islands, Rabbits in Australia or cats on Prince Edward Islands. Rats, mice, and cockroaches are common urban and suburban vermin.
IlikedAUH2O on May 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Tommy Christopher says that people who think Benghazi is important don’t even know where it is. Did you know that geography was an intricate part of your ability to care that your president is a lying S.O.B.?
Cindy Munford on May 13, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Correction
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:54 PM
Are the relatives of top NBC execs being punished by the WH or something? Is that why NBC is trying to suck up to and cover for the WH even more than the others?
farsighted on May 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM
lester has nothing.
Schadenfreude on May 13, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Why no mention that Ambassador Rice’s husband is producer of ABC News?
pat on May 13, 2013 at 7:22 PM
yeh lester does have nothing.
every time I think I have encountered the dimmest troll someone reminds me there is someone even dimmer.
CW on May 13, 2013 at 7:26 PM
I’m shocked shocked I tell you, NOT!
mmcnamer1 on May 13, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Yep I have a “I don’t believe the liberal media” bumper sticker on my car for a reason..but wow, I had no idea how far in bed they are with Obama..insanity
sadsushi on May 13, 2013 at 8:01 PM
According to Glenn Beck’s show today on The Blaze, NBC is also in the tank: Jay Carney is married to the senior national correspondent Clair Shipman.
FloatingRock on May 13, 2013 at 8:08 PM
We need this mapped out with that secret CIA software used to detect terrorist cells.
slickwillie2001 on May 13, 2013 at 8:17 PM
We already have Candy Crowley.
slickwillie2001 on May 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM
Gee…Il Duce and his cronies are having quite a week huh?
workingclass artist on May 13, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Why did it take so long for anyone to notice this???
albill on May 14, 2013 at 8:53 AM