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		<title>By: Watcher</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-44448</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t feel too bad Pablo. Umnumzana&#039;s typical response to anyone who disagrees with him on a single issue is to call them a leftist, regardless of any other comments that person might have made... and regardless of whether or not they were only made in jest, apparently.

I&#039;m still waiting for Umnumzana to explain to me how my &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/25/science-more-porn-less-rape/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;taking exception to his own Statist impulses&lt;/a&gt; somehow magically transformed me into a leftist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t feel too bad Pablo. Umnumzana&#8217;s typical response to anyone who disagrees with him on a single issue is to call them a leftist, regardless of any other comments that person might have made&#8230; and regardless of whether or not they were only made in jest, apparently.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still waiting for Umnumzana to explain to me how my <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/25/science-more-porn-less-rape/" rel="nofollow">taking exception to his own Statist impulses</a> somehow magically transformed me into a leftist.</p>
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		<title>By: Umnumzana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Umnumzana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Entelechy: &lt;strong&gt;Then you are a gracious, intelligent woman with and I appreciate your many posts!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Entelechy: <strong>Then you are a gracious, intelligent woman with and I appreciate your many posts!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umnumzana, georgej and Pablo,

I believe that great mistunderstandings have occurred, for whatever litte/larger reasons. Such is often the case in life, and also in the cyber-world.

I have learned from and enjoyed the posts of all three of you and believe that this could develop into an internecine &#039;fight&#039;, in other words among relatively alike thinkers.

If apologies for all misunderstandings are hard for any of you, perhaps, just suggesting, it would be nice to just leave it at this. 

We have bigger, much bigger fish to fry with our world events of today, and could use all of your energies and resources for better and more important fights. And some fun now and then too, including sarcasm.

Hoping that reasoning and not testasterone prevails...sincerely and meaning well.

Umnumzana, I hope you will not be disappointed but I am a lady :) This I know for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umnumzana, georgej and Pablo,</p>
<p>I believe that great mistunderstandings have occurred, for whatever litte/larger reasons. Such is often the case in life, and also in the cyber-world.</p>
<p>I have learned from and enjoyed the posts of all three of you and believe that this could develop into an internecine &#8216;fight&#8217;, in other words among relatively alike thinkers.</p>
<p>If apologies for all misunderstandings are hard for any of you, perhaps, just suggesting, it would be nice to just leave it at this. </p>
<p>We have bigger, much bigger fish to fry with our world events of today, and could use all of your energies and resources for better and more important fights. And some fun now and then too, including sarcasm.</p>
<p>Hoping that reasoning and not testasterone prevails&#8230;sincerely and meaning well.</p>
<p>Umnumzana, I hope you will not be disappointed but I am a lady :) This I know for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Umnumzana</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43674</link>
		<dc:creator>Umnumzana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;georgej:&lt;/strong&gt; I don&#039;t need lectures from a low grade moron like you or your girlfriend Pablo! I prefer to keep things civil and decent, based on rational thought and considerate debate; but &lt;strong&gt;if you two turds want a fight, I am willing, ready and able&lt;/strong&gt;. 

I read Comrade Pablo&#039;s remarks, and &lt;strong&gt;not &lt;/strong&gt;knowing him, I took his comments literally and responded to his unreasoning, fanatical attacks against Rove. I trust and respect Entelechy, he is a fine gentleman and a decent man, so if he tells me your &lt;em&gt;intimate &lt;/em&gt;friend is not a liberal, I will accept his word. That notwithstanding, neither Pablo nor you deserve any apology from me nor any defense of my comments, if you don&#039;t like what I said - tough shit!

I also don&#039;t need history books by liberal historians, these so-called historians are biased and totally unreliable! Apparently you are unaware that there were two theaters of war during WW-II, Japan and Europe. You defend FDR&#039;s plans for Japan, which I do not contest, he was proactive and aggressive on that front. However, it is an absolutely undeniable fact; and to the great cost of perhaps millions of Jews that he was tardy and quite reluctant to engage in the war in Europe. I don&#039;t need your liberal historians to educate me, I can look at the death camps and the millions of dead there and elsewhere in Europe; and I can rationally, truthfully conclude that FDR was very tardy and quite reluctant in the European theater of operations. FDR also refused for a long time to allow any European Jews to seek sanctuary in the United States. Maybe, you should go back to school and read about the European part of WW-II and FDR&#039;s policies regarding that theater of war before you get on your moral high horse.

My father served during WW-II as Captain of a United States Navy ship in the Pacific (sunk by the Japanese), while my eldest, late brother-in-law and my father-in-law (A man who received a battlefield commission for his heroism, serving with Patton, and he was the first American soldier into one of the death camps) fought in Europe; and I have their direct testimony. I can also look to my relatives in Europe, but I cannot talk to most of them because they are dead thanks to FDR.

So, let the war begin comrade and you and your girlfriend Pablo better be ready for all out toe-to-toe combat.

I don&#039;t like the language I just used above or engage in uncivil discourse; but I will not be attacked and be passive, all for the horrible offense of reacting to the words clearly contained in Comrade Pablo&#039;s post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>georgej:</strong> I don&#8217;t need lectures from a low grade moron like you or your girlfriend Pablo! I prefer to keep things civil and decent, based on rational thought and considerate debate; but <strong>if you two turds want a fight, I am willing, ready and able</strong>. </p>
<p>I read Comrade Pablo&#8217;s remarks, and <strong>not </strong>knowing him, I took his comments literally and responded to his unreasoning, fanatical attacks against Rove. I trust and respect Entelechy, he is a fine gentleman and a decent man, so if he tells me your <em>intimate </em>friend is not a liberal, I will accept his word. That notwithstanding, neither Pablo nor you deserve any apology from me nor any defense of my comments, if you don&#8217;t like what I said &#8211; tough shit!</p>
<p>I also don&#8217;t need history books by liberal historians, these so-called historians are biased and totally unreliable! Apparently you are unaware that there were two theaters of war during WW-II, Japan and Europe. You defend FDR&#8217;s plans for Japan, which I do not contest, he was proactive and aggressive on that front. However, it is an absolutely undeniable fact; and to the great cost of perhaps millions of Jews that he was tardy and quite reluctant to engage in the war in Europe. I don&#8217;t need your liberal historians to educate me, I can look at the death camps and the millions of dead there and elsewhere in Europe; and I can rationally, truthfully conclude that FDR was very tardy and quite reluctant in the European theater of operations. FDR also refused for a long time to allow any European Jews to seek sanctuary in the United States. Maybe, you should go back to school and read about the European part of WW-II and FDR&#8217;s policies regarding that theater of war before you get on your moral high horse.</p>
<p>My father served during WW-II as Captain of a United States Navy ship in the Pacific (sunk by the Japanese), while my eldest, late brother-in-law and my father-in-law (A man who received a battlefield commission for his heroism, serving with Patton, and he was the first American soldier into one of the death camps) fought in Europe; and I have their direct testimony. I can also look to my relatives in Europe, but I cannot talk to most of them because they are dead thanks to FDR.</p>
<p>So, let the war begin comrade and you and your girlfriend Pablo better be ready for all out toe-to-toe combat.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the language I just used above or engage in uncivil discourse; but I will not be attacked and be passive, all for the horrible offense of reacting to the words clearly contained in Comrade Pablo&#8217;s post.</p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
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		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d like to know when the left is going to start shouting for Armitage’s indictment.
Pablo&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Don&#039;t you mean canonization?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’d like to know when the left is going to start shouting for Armitage’s indictment.<br />
Pablo</p></blockquote>
<p>Don&#8217;t you mean canonization?</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008857&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Eternal Plame&lt;/a&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<a href="http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008857" rel="nofollow">Eternal Plame</a>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to know when the left is going to start shouting for Armitage&#039;s indictment. 
&lt;em&gt;
:::crickets:::&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to know when the left is going to start shouting for Armitage&#8217;s indictment.<br />
<em><br />
:::crickets:::</em></p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A secret can only be divulged or &#039;outed&#039; when it&#039;s still a secret. Antonyms to &#039;secret&#039;: open, manifest. Yep, VP and JW...

It’s really all about nothing. And always was. The violin is playing, and playing, and playing. To mind come the &quot;will you fire K. Rove?&quot; shouts at news-conferences and other gatherings...&quot;even if he&#039;s not guilty, but in the spirit of &lt;em&gt;lacrima cristi&lt;/em&gt;...&quot;

Also, Armitage possesses lesser of an intellect than the halo which surrounded him over the years would suggest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A secret can only be divulged or &#8216;outed&#8217; when it&#8217;s still a secret. Antonyms to &#8216;secret&#8217;: open, manifest. Yep, VP and JW&#8230;</p>
<p>It’s really all about nothing. And always was. The violin is playing, and playing, and playing. To mind come the &#8220;will you fire K. Rove?&#8221; shouts at news-conferences and other gatherings&#8230;&#8221;even if he&#8217;s not guilty, but in the spirit of <em>lacrima cristi</em>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, Armitage possesses lesser of an intellect than the halo which surrounded him over the years would suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
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		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;fogw: sorry, again undone by this Chinese puzzle (Confederacy of Dunces fans will get that one). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

You need not delve into the details of this one, all you need to know is this: it (the whole &quot;Bush outed a double super secret agent to retaliate against said Jane Bond&#039;s wife) was BS from the beginning and remains BS.  

You also need to know that the MSM will never, ever admit that in any sort of direct way.  Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>fogw: sorry, again undone by this Chinese puzzle (Confederacy of Dunces fans will get that one). </p></blockquote>
<p>You need not delve into the details of this one, all you need to know is this: it (the whole &#8220;Bush outed a double super secret agent to retaliate against said Jane Bond&#8217;s wife) was BS from the beginning and remains BS.  </p>
<p>You also need to know that the MSM will never, ever admit that in any sort of direct way.  Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: honora</title>
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		<dc:creator>honora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fogw: sorry, again undone by this Chinese puzzle (Confederacy of Dunces fans will get that one).  Isikoff is also the reporter who quit the Washington Post because they wouldn&#039;t run with the Paula Jones story and who broke the Monica Lewinsky story in the press.

Great reporter IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fogw: sorry, again undone by this Chinese puzzle (Confederacy of Dunces fans will get that one).  Isikoff is also the reporter who quit the Washington Post because they wouldn&#8217;t run with the Paula Jones story and who broke the Monica Lewinsky story in the press.</p>
<p>Great reporter IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: honora</title>
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		<dc:creator>honora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, another double super secret identity revealed by Michael Isikoff, the MSM black hole for all government leaks. Sorry no credibility here. Wasn’t this the liberal Newsweek columnist whose journalistic undercover work discovered we were flushing Korans down the toilet at Guitmo? That was some solid research there Mike. Nice job criticizing our troops and emboldening our enemies with a fake story.

It should be interesting to watch this story unravel, since Isikoff is pointing the finger of blame at another Bushie hater, albeit one within his own administration. 

fogw on August 27, 2006 at 11:58 AM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, another double super secret identity revealed by Michael Isikoff, the MSM black hole for all government leaks. Sorry no credibility here. Wasn’t this the liberal Newsweek columnist whose journalistic undercover work discovered we were flushing Korans down the toilet at Guitmo? That was some solid research there Mike. Nice job criticizing our troops and emboldening our enemies with a fake story.</p>
<p>It should be interesting to watch this story unravel, since Isikoff is pointing the finger of blame at another Bushie hater, albeit one within his own administration. </p>
<p>fogw on August 27, 2006 at 11:58 AM</p>
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		<title>By: Squid Vicious</title>
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		<dc:creator>Squid Vicious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone&#039;s interested, apparently the new meme circulating among the nutroots goes something like this: Armitage was a well-known gossip and chatterbox, so Rove &lt;em&gt;told him Plame&#039;s identity, knowing that he would run out and tell the press.&lt;/em&gt;  I&#039;m sure the nutroots will be able to sleep easy again, now they&#039;ve resolved that Rove is still the source of all evil in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone&#8217;s interested, apparently the new meme circulating among the nutroots goes something like this: Armitage was a well-known gossip and chatterbox, so Rove <em>told him Plame&#8217;s identity, knowing that he would run out and tell the press.</em>  I&#8217;m sure the nutroots will be able to sleep easy again, now they&#8217;ve resolved that Rove is still the source of all evil in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: entagor</title>
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		<dc:creator>entagor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still chewing on this one:

&lt;blockquote&gt;‘Larry, these guys never heard a bullet go by their ears in anger &lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s in quotes attributed to &#039;Rich&#039; but is it a direct quote, or an isikoffian paraphrase?

I have only been shot at once, in crime, not war, and that bullet missed my head by an inch. I have been to the gun range and I don&#039;t remember ever hearing a bullet go by. 

Maybe I&#039;m old, maybe I&#039;m slow, but the crack of a gun firing is just hitting my ears after the bullet is long past and my reflexes to the crack of firing are just getting started. The time frame between firing, and hitting target is so tiny I  can&#039;t see how there is time to identify a whistle in passing.

I concede they duck bullets in the movies.

where is war_dawg? Do you remember hearing bullets go by?

Angry bullets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still chewing on this one:</p>
<blockquote><p>‘Larry, these guys never heard a bullet go by their ears in anger </p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s in quotes attributed to &#8216;Rich&#8217; but is it a direct quote, or an isikoffian paraphrase?</p>
<p>I have only been shot at once, in crime, not war, and that bullet missed my head by an inch. I have been to the gun range and I don&#8217;t remember ever hearing a bullet go by. </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m old, maybe I&#8217;m slow, but the crack of a gun firing is just hitting my ears after the bullet is long past and my reflexes to the crack of firing are just getting started. The time frame between firing, and hitting target is so tiny I  can&#8217;t see how there is time to identify a whistle in passing.</p>
<p>I concede they duck bullets in the movies.</p>
<p>where is war_dawg? Do you remember hearing bullets go by?</p>
<p>Angry bullets?</p>
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		<title>By: B Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S,N! exposed us both as Goldstein sock-puppets, but I am starting to doubt that you are on the right foot.

I also must condemn myself for that pun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S,N! exposed us both as Goldstein sock-puppets, but I am starting to doubt that you are on the right foot.</p>
<p>I also must condemn myself for that pun.</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
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		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finger check. Try again...

Umnumzana wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;georgej and Pablo: You leftists can attack me all you want, I read nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm and I replied to the written word&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m a LEFTIST?  &lt;strong&gt;HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!&lt;/strong&gt;

Oh, man, I&#039;m laughing so hard, I need seat belts to prevent my falling to the floor.

You clearly haven&#039;t read many of my posts, have you?  Or if you have, you haven&#039;t read them for comprehension.

Neither have you read much of Pablo&#039;s either.

Maybe you ought to visit the vault and read some before you embarrass yourself again.

Oh, and while we&#039;re on the subject, there is a bit of unfinished business I have with you from some previous posts dealing with FDR.

You advanced the opinion that FDR was truthful when he said he didn&#039;t want America to enter WWII.  When I agreed with honora&#039;s point that FDR clearly &lt;strong&gt;did&lt;/strong&gt; intend to enter the war against Germany as well as enter a war with Japan, you made this gratuitious flame about me to honora:

Specifically:
&lt;blockquote&gt;It was so bizarre and absent reason I naturally assumed it was you!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Frankly, I think you need to read more about the origins of WWII, because you clearly have not mastered the material.  So here&#039;s a partial reading list for you:

Read: &lt;em&gt;The New Dealers&#039; War: FDR and the War Within World War II &lt;/em&gt; by Thomas J. Fleming.  

Or try &lt;em&gt;Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor &lt;/em&gt;by Robert Stinnett.

Both books expose FDR&#039;s behind the scenes manipulations to posture America to enter WWII, even though he was mouthing all the proper isolationist phrases.

Oh.  One more thing about FDR and his secret plan to go to war.  &lt;strong&gt;It is a FACT&lt;/strong&gt; that on December 4, 1941 (3 whole days before Pearl Harbor), the openly FDR-hating &lt;em&gt;Chicago Tribune &lt;/em&gt; revealed FDR&#039;s secret war plans to invade German occupied Europe with 5 million men in 1943 by running a front page story, complete with a reproduction of the cover page signed by Roosevelt.

Don&#039;t take my word for it...google the date and FDR and &quot;war plans&quot; and see what you get.

The fact is, the Tribune&#039;s report was a leaked document from someone in the War Department. It is prima fascia evidence that FDR &lt;strong&gt;lied &lt;/strong&gt;when he said he wasn&#039;t planning for war with Germany.  He most certainly was.  Just as he was planning for war with Japan. 

And in this humble citizen&#039;s opinion, it was a GOOD THING for America that FDR saw enough of the future, early enough in time, to get a jump on the actual hostilities, too.

I&#039;ll give you one more free clue:  Look up the date of the keel laying of the USS IOWA -- the first of the Iowa class battleships.  Then you can wonder whatever happened to the Treaty of Washington of 1922, and why.</description>
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<p>Umnumzana wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>georgej and Pablo: You leftists can attack me all you want, I read nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm and I replied to the written word</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m a LEFTIST?  <strong>HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!</strong></p>
<p>Oh, man, I&#8217;m laughing so hard, I need seat belts to prevent my falling to the floor.</p>
<p>You clearly haven&#8217;t read many of my posts, have you?  Or if you have, you haven&#8217;t read them for comprehension.</p>
<p>Neither have you read much of Pablo&#8217;s either.</p>
<p>Maybe you ought to visit the vault and read some before you embarrass yourself again.</p>
<p>Oh, and while we&#8217;re on the subject, there is a bit of unfinished business I have with you from some previous posts dealing with FDR.</p>
<p>You advanced the opinion that FDR was truthful when he said he didn&#8217;t want America to enter WWII.  When I agreed with honora&#8217;s point that FDR clearly <strong>did</strong> intend to enter the war against Germany as well as enter a war with Japan, you made this gratuitious flame about me to honora:</p>
<p>Specifically:</p>
<blockquote><p>It was so bizarre and absent reason I naturally assumed it was you!</p></blockquote>
<p>Frankly, I think you need to read more about the origins of WWII, because you clearly have not mastered the material.  So here&#8217;s a partial reading list for you:</p>
<p>Read: <em>The New Dealers&#8217; War: FDR and the War Within World War II </em> by Thomas J. Fleming.  </p>
<p>Or try <em>Day Of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor </em>by Robert Stinnett.</p>
<p>Both books expose FDR&#8217;s behind the scenes manipulations to posture America to enter WWII, even though he was mouthing all the proper isolationist phrases.</p>
<p>Oh.  One more thing about FDR and his secret plan to go to war.  <strong>It is a FACT</strong> that on December 4, 1941 (3 whole days before Pearl Harbor), the openly FDR-hating <em>Chicago Tribune </em> revealed FDR&#8217;s secret war plans to invade German occupied Europe with 5 million men in 1943 by running a front page story, complete with a reproduction of the cover page signed by Roosevelt.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take my word for it&#8230;google the date and FDR and &#8220;war plans&#8221; and see what you get.</p>
<p>The fact is, the Tribune&#8217;s report was a leaked document from someone in the War Department. It is prima fascia evidence that FDR <strong>lied </strong>when he said he wasn&#8217;t planning for war with Germany.  He most certainly was.  Just as he was planning for war with Japan. </p>
<p>And in this humble citizen&#8217;s opinion, it was a GOOD THING for America that FDR saw enough of the future, early enough in time, to get a jump on the actual hostilities, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you one more free clue:  Look up the date of the keel laying of the USS IOWA &#8212; the first of the Iowa class battleships.  Then you can wonder whatever happened to the Treaty of Washington of 1922, and why.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43361</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B Moe, 

You of all people ought to know. Last I heard, I was you! ;-)

That was a SN! goon, wasn&#039;t it?</description>
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<p>You of all people ought to know. Last I heard, I was you! ;-)</p>
<p>That was a SN! goon, wasn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43352</link>
		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umnumzana wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;georgej and Pablo: You leftists can attack me all you want, I read nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm and I replied to the written word.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umnumzana wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>georgej and Pablo: You leftists can attack me all you want, I read nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm and I replied to the written word.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m</p>
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		<title>By: B Moe</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43345</link>
		<dc:creator>B Moe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admit it Pablo, you are really a spy for Sadly,No! aren&#039;t you?</description>
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		<title>By: RD</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43341</link>
		<dc:creator>RD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Umnumzana; &quot;questioning the timing&quot; and &quot;seeing the hand of Rove&quot; are hand-in hand, running jokes on this blog.  Understandable that you would be alarmed (to say the least) if those had been meant seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Umnumzana; &#8220;questioning the timing&#8221; and &#8220;seeing the hand of Rove&#8221; are hand-in hand, running jokes on this blog.  Understandable that you would be alarmed (to say the least) if those had been meant seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Entelechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entelechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 06:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;De rien&lt;/em&gt;! It&#039;s really nothing!

P.S. However, Mr. (Princess) Wilson is still crying. He&#039;ll have to find a new purpose in life now and can&#039;t quite buy that new Jaguar V12 yet...


&lt;em&gt;Umnumzana&lt;/em&gt;, from all the posts there is little indication that &lt;em&gt;Pablo&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;georgej&lt;/em&gt; are leftists. Sometimes they&#039;re sarcastic, like I am often. We just need to be careful to turn those buttons off, especially when we address other commenters. In the most sincere way, I agree with Pablo that you&#039;re ever so special. Respectfully,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>De rien</em>! It&#8217;s really nothing!</p>
<p>P.S. However, Mr. (Princess) Wilson is still crying. He&#8217;ll have to find a new purpose in life now and can&#8217;t quite buy that new Jaguar V12 yet&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Umnumzana</em>, from all the posts there is little indication that <em>Pablo</em> and <em>georgej</em> are leftists. Sometimes they&#8217;re sarcastic, like I am often. We just need to be careful to turn those buttons off, especially when we address other commenters. In the most sincere way, I agree with Pablo that you&#8217;re ever so special. Respectfully,</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43289</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umnumzana, you&#039;re just ever so special. But I get your drift. I&#039;m a leftist, and you&#039;re sane person. 

You&#039;ve been looking at the Doublemint twins again, haven&#039;t you dirty boy? You know where that &lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/25/science-more-porn-less-rape/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;leads&lt;/a&gt;, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umnumzana, you&#8217;re just ever so special. But I get your drift. I&#8217;m a leftist, and you&#8217;re sane person. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve been looking at the Doublemint twins again, haven&#8217;t you dirty boy? You know where that <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/25/science-more-porn-less-rape/" rel="nofollow">leads</a>, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Umnumzana</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43248</link>
		<dc:creator>Umnumzana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;georgej and Pablo&lt;/strong&gt;: You leftists can attack me all you want, I read nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm and I replied to the written word. If Pablo meant something else then he was incapable on conveying his message in an intelligent manner. 

If either of you Leftists don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t reply to my posts! I will reply to your idiotic posts any damn time I want!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>georgej and Pablo</strong>: You leftists can attack me all you want, I read nothing in that post to indicate sarcasm and I replied to the written word. If Pablo meant something else then he was incapable on conveying his message in an intelligent manner. </p>
<p>If either of you Leftists don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t reply to my posts! I will reply to your idiotic posts any damn time I want!</p>
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		<title>By: byteshredder</title>
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		<dc:creator>byteshredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;Isikoff: Armitage outed Plame&lt;/i&gt;&quot;
Who really gives a rip?</description>
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Who really gives a rip?</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43229</link>
		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess partisan liar and traitor Joe Wilson owes Karl Rove an apology.  Think he&#039;ll get one?</description>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/27/isikoff-armitage-outed-plame/comment-page-1/#comment-43228</link>
		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo, Umnumzana apparently can&#039;t see the &quot;sarcasm&quot; tags embedded in your comments.</description>
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