Video: Powers-Coulter catfight on Hannity & Colmes
posted at 10:50 pm on August 24, 2006 by Allahpundit
Eye candy week at Hot Air is winding down, and what better note to end on than AC walking off in a huff after being ignored by tonight’s guest host, the lovely and talented Ms. Powers? At least I think she walked off in a huff; listen at the very end and you’ll hear what sounds like her mike being removed.
Totally evil, KP. Evil, insulting, childish, and wrong. And so exciting.
Mary K and Bethany would tempt the devil, but I think I’m a one-woman man.
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That’s fine; just tell her about this thing called teeth whitening. Also, it appears that Ann Coulter’s black dress has returned from summer vacation. Welcome back, old friend.
So long as we have The Vault, Eye Candy Week will never end.
Kid from Brooklyn on August 24, 2006 at 11:04 PM
Sorry – who is “Ms. Powers”? I know she’s the gal on the left, but who exactly is she (besides your dream gal, Allah)?
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:06 PM
Speaking of evil and insulting.
Let he who is without enamel stains cast the first stone.
Allahpundit on August 24, 2006 at 11:08 PM
Boys, boys, I love you both (platonically of course) – please don’t ruin a good thing.
Sister, surely you’re kidding…
Entelechy on August 24, 2006 at 11:12 PM
Being a one-woman man is always more impressive when it’s not preceeded by the words “I think”.
a4g on August 24, 2006 at 11:14 PM
Ah – ok, I remember now. Had a blonde moment (aka brain cramp) there for a short spell. The anticipation over the Goldstein Friday Vent has me distracted, I guess.
Appreciate the quick answer, Entelechy.
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:14 PM
Ooh…now you’re in trouble ST. I think you’ve insulted Allah with your lack of knowledge about Ms. Powers.
I have to agree with Allah, Kirsten is normally pretty cool.
4thelittleguy on August 24, 2006 at 11:18 PM
I certainly hope not! But I’m not ashamed to say that I don’t know anywhere near as much about strong conservative female pundits as I do male strong male conservative pundits, and I’d like to keep it that way, Chad ;)
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:22 PM
Mary Matlin and James Carville are an exception but, in the reverse political sense, maybe a second successful relationship can become (if it hasn’t already) K. Powers and our Allah.
However, if our Allah is a Libertarian, the situation is way more dicey.
Entelechy on August 24, 2006 at 11:25 PM
Looks like KP discovered Ann’s weakness: being ignored. I have seen Coulter asked some real tough questions and called harsh things right to her face and she always has kept her cool. KP just move right on and Coulter went batpoop crazy.
Greg Tinti on August 24, 2006 at 11:26 PM
You always crack me up, ST.
4thelittleguy on August 24, 2006 at 11:27 PM
In some ways a liberal/conservative relationship could be quite fun – in other ways, it’d be downright frustrating. I suppose it would depend on how much politics each person discusses, and how far left or right each one was. I could see myself with one of the few sane liberals there are in the world, but why bother trying to find one when there are plenty more ultra cool conservative gents to concentrate on? :)
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:28 PM
Enough to earn KP several dozen cool points, IMO.
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:30 PM
Definitely agree with that one, ST.
Greg Tinti on August 24, 2006 at 11:30 PM
Hi, Greg! Good to see you here.
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:31 PM
While we’re on the topic of AC, can the males at this blog explain their attraction to Ann? I’ve read some comments at my own blog (probably about 75% of my readers disagree with me on Ann – I’m not a fan) but I’d like to see what the Hot Air crowd has to say in response. If I were a man, I don’t think I’d be particularly attracted to Ann. Not crazy about her attitude, and I think she needs to eat a lot more.
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:35 PM
She needs to eat a lot more. Biscuits and gravy, and pizza. And she needs to pull her hair up, or at least part of it. Watching her pull it behind her ear every thirty seconds is distracting. And whoever dressed her for the Godless cover should be fired. And I say that as a mom who lives in jeans and T-shirts.
Anwyn on August 24, 2006 at 11:40 PM
Okay, maybe not a *lot* more. Some biscuits and gravy. Forget the pizza. :) She just needs to eat enough so that her elbows don’t have to be registered as weapons.
Anwyn on August 24, 2006 at 11:43 PM
The Allah/Powers romance or flirtation and the humor and suspence it brings to this board aside, on a serious note, I just now watched the video:
- I read Ann’s article on the Left being missing in action on this WOT – either there is one, or we can close HotAir for the most part. What KP spewed was utter nonsense. Yes, love is blind and of course it should be.
- KP played the role of the increasingly ridiculous Mr. Colmes to perfection: where is Osama? (all, please watch the ABC special in Sept. 10 and 11 – you will never be the same on how derelict the Clinton admin. was in not catching him), there are no terrorist connections with anything Iraq, not even Saddam…well, I’m so mad I can’t even list the lib mantra she spewed; then the other guest jumped in with “and the Mission Accomplished” thing (which was true and the Left can’t get over that success).
- I would have also walked off the set – sorry Allah, but that was rude, no matter who the guest would have been.
The liberals simply deny the war and have no plan whatever on how to fight it, except to berate this Admin and the conservatives. Good luck to all of us!
Entelechy on August 24, 2006 at 11:45 PM
For a Dem, Kristin isn’t that bad and is probably one of the nicer ones they have on there, although Beckel is probably a nice person as well—-but Hennican-ick! However, Ann really needs to get a new wardrobe-that black dress reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where that girl he dated always wore the same dress and I have to wonder if she has 50 of these dresses or if this is the same one. However, in full disclosure I am not a big AC fan. Her continous use of the “R” word has me wondering why she can’t come up with a different adjective. I pre-ordered her book and couldn’t finish it because it was in there every other paragraph it seemed. Sold it on the Amazon Marketplace. She really made AC look like a fool though. I support President Bush on the wars in A & I, but if AC thinks it’s going swimmingly, she needs to talk to some military people who are over there.
Catie96706 on August 24, 2006 at 11:45 PM
A fashion consultant for AC is definitely in order, methinks.
I read Slander and loved it, and Treason – enjoyed it as well. Not all parts of each book, but most. But with each book, and each interview, Ann seems to relish being deliberately controversial just because. It’s one thing to unwittingly create controversy, but it’s quite another to deliberately do so – especially considering that Ann makes good points often, but they get lost in the translation thanks to her sometimes way over the top remarks. It’s good to be a straight-shooter, but sometimes you have to know when to hold off on pulling the trigger.
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:46 PM
Thanks ST.
Greg Tinti on August 24, 2006 at 11:47 PM
Correction to the above: “But with each book, and each interview, Ann seems to relish being deliberately more controversial ..”
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:49 PM
I don’t get it either…I’ve never been a fan of the overly skinny, nearly starving look.
Mark me down as confused on this one, ST.
4thelittleguy on August 24, 2006 at 11:50 PM
Bingo, ST. And her theatrics tonight on H&C were totally uncalled for. It made her look very, “Me me me me me!”
Greg Tinti on August 24, 2006 at 11:51 PM
LOL. I dig Ellis Henican. Rumor has it though that he would not dig me, and not just because we’re political opposites either, if you catch my meaning (hope I’m not out of line by saying that).
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:51 PM
Uhh sorry but KP was out of line, and those of you who might not like AC still have to recognize the cheap trick for what it was. All KP did was rant on and on with liberal talking points, then once AC started to put together an answer she aggressively cut AC off, never gave her a chance to speak, and then switched to the other guy because AC got a word in.
KP is not as smart as AC is. KP knows it and was scared of AC, so KP resorted to cheap tricks, and from the look of the above comments it worked… with people who are already biased against AC.
As for the CONTENT of what AC said, I think she was right. Afghanistan is going well, and even the media grudgingly agrees that the Taliban operating out of Pakistani sanctuaries has consistently failed to make any significant headway. As far as Osama, he *IS* irrelevant as far as the operational war on terror goes, though he is relevant in the since that he is has symbolic/figurehead status. Obviously it would help to kill him, and AC made a mistake in how she responded. The whole liberal talking point that “they will get bin laden” is bullsh*t not because bin laden is worthless, but instead because there is nothing the US could do more than we already are, short of invading Pakistan. Will the democrats invade Pakistan to get Osama? No. Even if they could, would it be a good idea? No.
kaltes on August 24, 2006 at 11:55 PM
I’ve not even watched the video. Don’t think I could stomach it. I’m too keyed up over the Steyn audio to spoil the move by watching AC.
SisterToldjah on August 24, 2006 at 11:55 PM
Catie96706, I read your comments with special emotion every time. I respect all you write because you are in this war, literally, with your family.
No way, do I want to leave the impression to you or anyone, that all is going to perfection in A and I. However, what have the Left done so far in this war, except harp, harp, harp (at times at banners), and provide treasonous information to our foes? This is a rhetorical question, not addressed to you, of course.
My thoughts are with you and family, and all those who protect us, day and night, so that KP and AC and us can be foolish and free.
Entelechy on August 24, 2006 at 11:59 PM
Totally agree. If the Dems did luck up and “get Binny” it would most assuredly be thanks (in part) to policies, procedures and war strategy put in place by the Bush admin and his defense dept, including the commanders in the field.
As I recall, one Democrat had about eight years to “get Binny” and he failed. I’m not interested in another one in the same role. We may not have caught Bin Laden yet, but it’s not without trying – and major sacrifices made in the field. That is more than could ever be said about the prior WH occupant, who was more interested in handling (literally) his, ahem, personal affairs rather than managing foreign affairs.
SisterToldjah on August 25, 2006 at 12:00 AM
I watched the first part of the segment live, then turned it off in disgust–as I often do when accidentally tuning in to H&C, because of all the pointles tirades, talking over each other and failing to really communicate. Powers’ charming response seemed to be payback for the way Hannity put words into Michael Brown’s mouth and stepped all over him. (Brown is pretty much wrong on everything, but pretty calm, collected and calculating. After all he’s Ron Brown’s son.) There was, basically, no one to root for–all in all, a typical
mud-rasslin’H&C show.As for AC’s general decline in humility (assuming she ever had any), some months back when she was paired with Brown on another Fox back-and-forth, she displayed some blatant on-camera “who is this little person” arrogance toward him. He simply smiled at her and gave his own CV. I would have loved to have seen her face when someone told her who his father was.
baldilocks on August 25, 2006 at 12:04 AM
Anybody else looking forward to Summer 2008?
“Shi**’s gonna hit the fan!”
“Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue!”
Pre-election 2008 is going to be a slugfest for the ages.
SilverStar830 on August 25, 2006 at 12:06 AM
I apologize in advance because I’ve already posted this info twice on other threads. However it is important that we watch this long special – for the first time ever the Clinton account of pre 9/11 will be objectively shown. The Bush admin. will not be spared either.
Mr. Clinton, Sandy Berger and Ms. Albright will be filleted during the ABC 2-nights docudrama about Sept. 11, 2001, on the nights of Sept. 10 and 11. It’s based on commission findings, a commission the Left bows to.
For the first time much of the truth about the dereliction of the Clinton Admin. will be aired. You will find out how bin Laden was really offered on a platinum platter to a President who was too busy defending himself from floozy-gate.
You will also find out why Mr. Berger was busy hiding 9/11 documents in his pants and how weak the CIA had become, how the agents were called out of Afghanistan, even knowing where/how to get bin Laden.
“Are there any real men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards?” will be a phrase we’ll all be very intimate with after 9/11/06. We’ll hear it over and over and over. Most interesting will be who said it.
Entelechy on August 25, 2006 at 12:16 AM
Sorry, Allah, but in that clip, Powers is a twit. No other way to say it.
I don’t watch tv news of any kind anymore, and get most of my viewing from clips here and around the net – thanks, btw – but the couple of things I’ve seen with this blonde badger just leave me wondering about your fascination.
But then I stop and realize that I, myself, can’t explain my own fascination with Eddie Izzard. So…forget I asked. ;o)
tickleddragon on August 25, 2006 at 12:25 AM
Brown has an interesting, but not too suprising past.
baldilocks on August 25, 2006 at 12:47 AM
Not for one milisecond do I believe that AC didn’t know the apple which didn’t fall very far from the apple-tree.
Entelechy on August 25, 2006 at 1:11 AM
Okay, watched the vid. KP comes across better as a host than trying to shout down Michelle on O’Reilly. Maybe because she gets to pick the talking points instead of responding to Bill’s and Michelle’s.
For a change, Ann wasn’t having to flip her hair back every five seconds because she was looking straight at the camera instead of having to look to the side to see people, and she looked better than I’ve seen her recently.
Pains me to say it, but AC came out of that looking worse than KP–*only* because she didn’t walk off the set as soon as KP started talking over her after she said “at some point he gives me a chance to answer.” When KP didn’t back off at that point, that was her cue to leave, not try to get it back for ten more seconds before throwing in the towel.
Sigh. KP’s still a wench.
Anwyn on August 25, 2006 at 1:14 AM
Anwyn, thank you for this, on the missing reporters from FOX (sorry to this thread for the off topic); you said it so well:
Entelechy on August 25, 2006 at 1:31 AM
Entelechy, thanks. :) I couldn’t believe what I was reading when Michelle quoted that guy. :P
Anwyn on August 25, 2006 at 1:44 AM
Let me state that I don’t think Coulter is hot, but not disgusting so I think all the “she’s a man”/Adam’s apple comments out of the left go way to far.
As for Powers, I always bring this up everytime her name is brought up… but she’s not hot. I can’t blame anyone for thinking so, because I used to also. But there was this one time on Cavuto or one of the weekend business shows where she apparently got their late or something because she was set up in the “basement” (studio whatever, where Lauren Green does headlines in the mornings). In addition to being in an odd location, she apparently didn’t have time to put on here make-up.
Now of course this has nothing to do with politics or anyone’s points here, but sense Powers is constantly brought up as being a symbol of hotness I feel it’s my duty to respond. All I can say is that I honestly didn’t recognize her at first, until I heard them say her name again. I was looking at this girl like “who’s this, I’ve never seen her before”… Then they said it was Kristen Powers and I’m thinking “dude, she’s going to be pissed that they got her name wrong”… Then as time went on I realized it was actually her. I’m not exaggerating, she was a totally different person without the make-up, and she was not hot. I’m not going to call her names, etc. but I can’t not point out what I’ve seen.
RightWinged on August 25, 2006 at 1:47 AM
“It made her look very, “Me me me me me!””
Hmmm… the only “MeMeMeee” actor was Kirsten Powers, with her typically liberal – rude, boorish, bullying “communication” tactic – throw out a couple of outrageously stupid liberal talking points, and then loudly babble on, repeating and amplifying her own talking points continuously, interrupting and pointedly ignoring the guest’s attempt to respond. It’s puerile, antagonistic behavior, and it’s enraging to try to hold a converstation with someone like that. Sort of like arguing with trolls, or Alan Colmes. I think Ann Coulter was about as civil as anyone could manage given similar treatment.
Benthoven on August 25, 2006 at 1:52 AM
by the way, incase anyone wasn’t aware H&C reruns at 2am ET which means it’s on right now… Coulter segment upcoming.
RightWinged on August 25, 2006 at 2:09 AM
While I didn’t see the episode you mention RW, I wouldn’t be surprised.
KP is to me a stereotypical libtard. Halfway decent looking on the outside, often having the greatest of motivations, but completely insane on the inside.
RH
RobertHuntingdon on August 25, 2006 at 2:14 AM
Well you’d have to be at least a little insane to claim lib status RH, but I was strictly talking looks sense that’s always the topic when KP is brought up. I don’t want to insult her but I feel like I would be not reporting a crime if I didn’t mention that I’ve seen her without make-up unrecognizable. I’m not saying she doesn’t look decent the rest of the time, but it’s all fake sadly. I’ve got no problem saying a liberal chick is hot… hell, most of Hollywood is liberal, right?
RightWinged on August 25, 2006 at 2:34 AM
I just watched H&C, and saw that Ann made the same point as she makes in her column this week. What part of the war do liberals support? I certainly cannot answer that. I do wish that Ann had called KP on the nonsense about the supposedly bad economy though. At the very least she could have asked about what happened to the War for Oil. AC wasn’t at the top of her game this time. BTW, where was the cat fight?
SisterToldjah asks;
I’m attracted to Ann because I like the way she makes her points, and if it was a beauty contest then she could run [after a 3 course meal], but I’m not looking to get a date. Facts are boring [as Rush understands so well], but Ann keeps the reader/listener alert with the barbs she places as she makes her irrefutable points. Libs have their ‘I Hate Bush’, and conservatives have ‘Godless liberals’. I find that to be most entertaining as it upsets the libs endlessly. Ann could improve her delivery by occasionally stating that she feels the liberals pain, thus invoking memories of Cigarman.
Entelechy, please keep reminding me about the ABC special as one day seems much like the next to this married with children working man, and I never watch the big 3. It sounds like it might be worth recording.
DannoJyd on August 25, 2006 at 2:46 AM
SisterT, Ann is not that pretty, too skinny, but it’s her brain that makes her attractive. Her wit, her sharp mind and her sarcastic sense of humor. A woman who thinks like her doesn’t have to be so pretty. Same could be said for Condi. She’s not the most beautiful woman in the world but her intelligence makes her so damn sexy. Also, Laura Ingraham, Tammy Bruce, Mona Charen. They’re ok to look at, but to listen to them speak is a turn on for a conservative guy. Michelle on the other hand has the brains AND the looks!
My dream woman is Condi’s brain in Halle Berry’s body. Oh my goodness. Well hel-LO there. How YOU doin’?
Tony737 on August 25, 2006 at 4:27 AM
Im questioning HotAir & bloggers here. So many here think this is entertaining to see Kristen Powers completely out of line with Ann Coulter? How strange, many bloggers wrote things like “Ann Coulter needs to eat biscuits & gravy”, “pull her hair up”, “not a fan” “dont understand male attraction to AC” “elbows registered as weapons” “needs a fashion consultant” And Allahpundit gets upset when someone suggest a teeth whitening for Kristen Powers-so tell me Allahpundit how do you really feel about Ann Coulter? Because I’m fed up with the crap she has taken, and without hestitaton I will gladly unsubscribe..
WHEN IS MICHELE COMING BACK!!!
mimi on August 25, 2006 at 4:50 AM
Allahpundit needs to go. He’s bringing Hotair down.
infra172 on August 25, 2006 at 5:19 AM
Dude, she brought that on herself when she decided to go on camera with battleship gray chiclets. She chose to chase that pack of Camel nonfilters with espresso. Don’t hate the player. Hate the Ladder.
Kid from Brooklyn on August 25, 2006 at 6:40 AM
Let’s exploit it. Please. If only to stop people from lumping Michelle Malkin in with her. By the way, that video is hilarious. Funniest thing Ann Coulter has ever said or done (although I must confess that I don’t find racial slurs or jokes about getting SCOTUS justices killed very funny, so I may be biased).
I have a question for all you Conservatives out there: why do you insist that the invasion of Iraq was part of the “war on terror” ? Of all the countries harboring terrorist or those with nuclear ambitions, Iraq barely makes the top ten. Don’t get me wrong… I was in favor of the invasion (or, more correctly, resumption of hostilities, as the Saddam-initiated Gulf War was merely put on pause, until he violated the cease fire agreement and brought military action upon himself), but of all the reasons for going in there, Iraq’s terrorist threat to America is one of the weakest reasons. It had terrorist connections, no doubt, but it wasn’t an imminent threat by any means.
Also, consider that invasion of Iraq was part of the Bush Administration’s plan before 9/11 … that is, before the administration put a bullseye on terrorism. Heck, removal of Saddam was official U.S. policy during Clinton’s years in office.
Iraq only became “key to the war on terror” because of the whole flypaper issue, in which foreign (i.e. non-Iraqi) fighters come from the region to fight The Great Satan. Iraq is only “key to the war on terror” because we’re there.
Mark Jaquith on August 25, 2006 at 6:54 AM
I concur. Even made up, she’s OK, but no more than a 5.5. She’s no Susan Estrich, but she’s no Juliet Huddy either.
To be fair, that’s classic Hannity as well.
infra172 says:
Let’s try it without you first.
Pablo on August 25, 2006 at 7:13 AM
Huh? Hot Air to a very large degree is Allahpundit. Where has this fellah been, or is he just kidding?
THeDRiFTeR on August 25, 2006 at 8:00 AM
Several reasons, though I’m not all that conservative. One, terrorism is a problem in the region and going into Iraq put us in the region with a considerable footprint in a wonderfully strategic location. The flypaper strategy worked in Iraq, whereas it was of limited effect in Afghanistan. Two, Iraq has a population that was brutalized by Saddam and enormously happy to see him go, which should have produced a far more substantial level of gratitude than it has, although the new Iraqi regime remains an ally. Three, Abu Nidal, Ansar al-Islam, Zarqawi, $25K payments to suicide bombers…all terrorism and all existing in Iraq with Saddam’s approval. Four, casus belli. We had it to go into Iraq, but nowhere else in the ME. Saddam had numerous obligations that other nasty countries didn’t have, and we had legal remedy for his failure to fulfill them, while putting similar regimes on notice. (Libya, for instance)
For all the wailing about failure in Iraq, does anyone have any idea how many jihadis we’ve converted to fertilizer?
Pablo on August 25, 2006 at 8:19 AM
Powers is usually pretty fair and decent to watch… the few times I’ve seen her on O’Reilly she was respectful and stood her position without be beligerant.
However it is quite apparent that for this “hosting” episode, she had been coached in how to handle Ms. Coulter. She knew as well as her coaches, that Anne would make her look silly. I believe KP’s ambitions lately are nothing more than getting her own network show, so I’m not surprised at her attempt to sandbag Anne. It didn’t work, cause it only made her look like a shrill, which she is usually not. It was like she just wanted to race through the discussion without allowing Anne to score any points.
Coulter was right to be pissed!
Bob Mileti on August 25, 2006 at 8:20 AM
Find a history book about WWII, notice we didn’t start out by immediately invading Japan or Germany.
B Moe on August 25, 2006 at 8:29 AM
Re:Video: Powers-Coulter catfight on Hannity & Colmes
Beautiful, ST.
12 Posts and then;
“I’ve not even watched the video. Don’t think I could stomach it. I’m too keyed up over the Steyn audio to spoil the move by watching AC.”
there it is on August 25, 2006 at 8:43 AM
Bin Laden can stay in his cave indefinitely so that we can never touch him so for the libs to make “get Osama” the only mission in the war on terror is an admission that they don’t really want to fight the war.
That is all Ann had to say.
Perchant on August 25, 2006 at 8:44 AM
Tony737 wrote:
Ok, I can respect that. Ya’ll dig Ann in the same way us gals dig Steyn or Hitch. Wrote about this some at my blog yesterday: it ain’t the looks, it’s what they say that makes them attractive (IMO). Being attractive just adds “bonus points” ;)
there it is wrote:
Thanks, although I see I made a typo. Change “move” to “mood”. That’s what happens when it gets late and I get tired :)
SisterToldjah on August 25, 2006 at 8:57 AM
Bethany vs KP? Not even a contest. Sorry Allah, but for once I just don’t agree with you. KP is pretty… but then, unfortunately, she opens her mouth.
BadBrad on August 25, 2006 at 9:03 AM
You’re right Tony737 that:
Guys are not are not as shallow as Women think… er… um…
zb42 on August 25, 2006 at 9:05 AM
Pablo, good job answering Mark’s question, you’re always on top of things around here.
Mark, saddam was no direct threat to us, but had we not taken him out, he may have (in a post 9/11 world) given his chemical and/or weapons to al qaeda or some other such group to use on us here at home. (Yes, he did have bio/chems, don’t waste bandwidth on that arguement). If we didn’t invade iraq and a.q. hit Grand Central Station with biological or chemical weapons on Monday morning at 8 am and killed thousands of Americans, the question would be “Why didn’t we stop this? Why didn’t we pre-empt this?”
“But, but, saddam’s a secularist and bin kaden is an extremist!” They’d be happy to put that aside long enough to destroy their common enemy: The Great Satan. Anybody who doesn’t get this doesn’t understand arab history or culture at all.
Yes, flypaper. Either we fight the bastids over there with our well trained and equipped armed forces, or we fight them HERE with our SWAT teams, EMTs, firefighters and flight attendants.
I beileve we’re doin’ the right thing by liberating the oppressed and turning enemies into allies to fight terrorism with us, but if that should fail … try Plan B.
Keep fighting terror, vote for Condi in ’08!
Tony737 on August 25, 2006 at 9:12 AM
Ah, the call of the rabid Coulter fan.
I RESIGN EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
Allahpundit on August 25, 2006 at 9:15 AM
Doesn’t anyone sleep around here?? I’m just now sitting down with my coffee…I feel like I’ve missed out on an entire conversation. I hate it when that happens.
As for AC, I can’t stand her. She is brazen and arrogant. Although her message is accurate and I agree with her, her delivery definitely needs work. I don’t want her to be a pushover, but pitching a hissy fit on national television does her reputaion absolutely no good.
pullingmyhairout on August 25, 2006 at 9:34 AM
I usually have no problem with Kirsten, other than her nutty ideology of course. I cannot wait to watch this one after I get home from work today… I cannot very well crack down on people streaming video at work while doing it myself. Note to commenters: That would be hypocritical. Thought some of you might need an example.
I’m a fairly rabid Coulter fan, and even comparing her to a jackalope like Kirsten is silly at best; but I would hardly think it justifies calling for Allahpundit to resign. I certainly hope that person was joking.
Cary on August 25, 2006 at 9:37 AM
I never watch Hannity & Colmes. If I want to watch a shout-fest between people who are fundamentally opposed to each other, I can go visit family.
Yes, Coulter was not allowed to speak. Typical. She was kind of a petulant jerk about it too, IMO.
Did KP ever come across with that list of Dem ideas for fighting terrorism that she promised?
lauraw on August 25, 2006 at 9:38 AM
I’d like see that, too.
pullingmyhairout on August 25, 2006 at 9:39 AM
While I agree with Tony737 about smart women being attractive, I’m not with him on:
First, of all, I gotta get this off my chest: I think it’s just inane to keep calling our present engagement a War on “Terror.” Terror is a tactic. A means to an end. Not an enemy. Reagan called out the Evil Empire. And Bush FINALLY called out the Islamic Fascists (though, I think calling the Pan-Islamic Jihadists “Fascists” is not completely accurate either.) Hence, our “enemy” is the Hydra of Pan-Islamic Fascism: AQ, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Fatah, etc. whose ambitions are to restore Arab “dignity” and establish an Islamic Caliphate.
Second, the current “Cease-fire” and diplomacy wrt to Israel-Hez-Lebanon was brought about by a combination of Olmert’s equivocating, ineffective military leadership and Rice’s caving into “World Opinion” and a desire to make the U.S. appear multi-lateral.
While there’s nothing that the U.S. could directly do about Olmert’s lameness, I think that Dr. Rice is trying too hard to “make nice” with people who don’t appreciate nice. Well, she is the U.S.’s top diplomat after all.
But, on the one hand, when we listen to the bleatings of our ostensible allies, we get shafted. And whoever would trust the Frogs… well as Krauthammer pointed out in his column today, one could never underestimate French Perfidy. With friends like this…
And Iran-Syria-Hez definitely view the current “Cease-fire” as a respite for them and sign of weakness on Israel’s and the U.S.’s parts. In the bizarro calculus of fighting the Islamists, anything less than annihilation of Hez is a “victory” for the jihadists.
At best, Dr. Rice has bought the U.S. a breather in the cacophony of World Opinion, and an excuse for Israel and the U.S. to go all out should (when) the Cease-fire falls apart.
Which brings us to my disagreement with Tony 737: I’m not sure that Rice has the toughness to advocate the U.S. going all out and to weather world opinion long enough for the job to get done.
But what do I know about toughness: She’s negotiated disarming/dismantling nukes from the republics of the former Soviet Union, as well as having stood toe-to-toe with Boris Yeltsin on the White House Steps.
Nevertheless,
Keep fighting Islamic Fascism: Guiliani in ’08!
zb42 on August 25, 2006 at 10:01 AM
The Dems would get and kill Osama?
Don’t believe it for one second.
- Theodore Roosevelt
ar_basin on August 25, 2006 at 10:11 AM
You’ll have to do two things: get past me, and then somehow figure out a way to open that super-bolted door.
:)
SisterToldjah on August 25, 2006 at 10:25 AM
So many here think this is entertaining to see Kristen Powers completely out of line with Ann Coulter? How strange,
Perchant on August 25, 2006 at 10:26 AM
Somehow, I don’t share the outrage of many here towards Kirsten. I think the reason is that many of the segments on H&C resemble food fights. I was most impressed with the fact that Ann Coulter was originally able to give about a minute of uninterrupted commentary. In contrast, Hannity badgered Michael Brown continually as Boldilocks pointed out and the latter therefore was not able to make an uninterrupted talking point.
While Kirsten became rude, she was no worse than regular host Alan Colmes (or than Sean Hannity for that matter) and she is actually a whole lot smarter than he is. Alan Colmes never gives anything than predigested Democratic talking points, and appears to be incapable of independent thought. In addition to Kirsten being think on her own, her views are actually much more reasonable to those of most on the left.
ptolemy on August 25, 2006 at 10:50 AM
I’m s-o-o glad we have/have not settled the attractiveness question. That’s why I come to Hot Air. /
KP itilizes the CNN method of dealing with conservatives, just keep asking loaded questions without allowing a response. There must be a school somewhere that teaches this strategy.
As for Ms. Coulter leaving, how would you react given the same situation?
MCPO Airdale on August 25, 2006 at 11:21 AM
wow lots of chat above here…
KP would eat you alive. You would never be right, you would never get a word in edgewise, she would frustrate you…
although……. you would never be bored!
what the heck, go for it.
shooter on August 25, 2006 at 11:54 AM
Talk about asleep at the wheel.
FNC sure had control of that hockey match.
Just goes to show smarts/wisdom and der gummenflappen are two distinctly different entities.
Just because you can run off at the mouth doesn’t mean whats spewing out has any merit.
Looks like an FNC tech. difficulty cheated the audience out of an intellegent debate.
I guess K.P. needs that once and a while. Don’t let it happen too often.
Speakup on August 25, 2006 at 12:33 PM
No, because the MSM et Co. only keep a thorough tally and print the names of our dead. To do otherwise would be good for Mr. Bush and the U.S. and bad for BDS and aADS.
Pablo, zb42, Tony737 and others have characterized well why we’re in Iraq. Yet, the best is to come. Which will also make the current cease-fire and Israel/Hezbollah war look like a skirmish. Same for the SOS Rice assessment. Those who listed some of her accomplishments, forgot the one with the biggest/long-lasting impact, the strategic/nuclear agreement with India (and the U.S. and Israel). Not understood and therefore never accurately reported on.
“dems will get bin Laden” – he needs not being gotten. He’s in a cave since Dec. 2001 and for reasons of not making him a martyr the mystery surrounding his whereabouts or dead/live status is best left a mystery. It also provides the Dems one big harping item and lots of smiles for some of us…
That person who said that our Allah ‘has to go’ probably forgot to turn on the /sarcasm button. But Sister, I’ll help you hold the door :)
On Ann Coulter’s looks – if we continue to focus on her looks, we deserve to be in the Kos category. I have no peeve with those who like or dislike her. To harp on her or KP’s or anyone’s looks, however, is being intelligently-challenged (how’s that for PC?)
Ann should have walked off the set sooner and should stay away from Fox for a while. It will only affect their ratings, the primary reason why they invite her.
I happen to like KP, from the list of the few dem. TV personalities one can like, but she’s weak and compensates with calculated sneakiness, i.e. tactics versus substance (what list?)
I abondoned the H & C show a long time ago, for this reason:
- Hannity, bla, bla, bla, shout over guest, bla, bla, bla, ask guest a question and then act like KP
- Colmes, ask a terribly contrarian and illogical question, having googled on any subject, related or unrelated, as long as it is adversarial to topic at hand, then piously staring at guest, who barely begins to talk, before a hard-brake commercial comes on
- some more of the same
- Greta stares at us with the latest never-ending story being announced
- more idiocy
- hand it over to Greta
I’ve had more excitement over H & C from this thread than any H & C from the last six months.
Entelechy on August 25, 2006 at 12:45 PM
Wait a second. Is this now the way to get respect as a conservative? “I am not a huge fan of Coulter.” “She needs a new wardrobe.” “She needs to eat more.” “I do not like her attitude.” Is that not how Liberals argue?
What a strange and weak caveat…”I am a conservative but I do not like Ann Coulter!”
I will go on record as saying, I do not give a damn what she looks like. Her books and articles are excellent.
mbredmond on August 25, 2006 at 12:56 PM
I’m going to be intelligently challenged and point out that in KP’s full head shot website, HER MOUTH IS CLOSED! Kid from Brooklyn, I think she knows the flaw!
It’s also annoying that you can’t hit the back button from her website. Lame liberal web tactic.
I agree with Entelechy about H & C being painful to watch.
Especially when they hand it over to Greta!
Time to watch Steyn some more. Happy Friday!
NTWR on August 25, 2006 at 1:16 PM
Entelechy, you’re right, it is easy sometimes to get sucked into the Dem talking points and perhaps my dislike of AC clouds my judgement. I have a neighbor whose brother is in Afgahnistan and he told her he wished he was back in Iraq actually.
As to AC, her wardrobe does make her fodder for the Dems. However, I would like to be as skinny as her myself! That being said, I really liked Slander & Treason and that was why I pre-ordered the new book. Maybe I am too sensitive to the “R” word, but I didn’t like it before my daughter was even a twinkle in my eye. She just seemed a bit over the top last night and made herself look childish IMHO, for what it is worth.
Yeah, ST, I always wondered about Ellis myself. :)
Catie96706 on August 25, 2006 at 1:17 PM
Any person here that balked at Chris Matthews asking his “panel” if they found Ann to be attractive or not while posting here and making cheap shots about Ann’s looks or how she dresses is a hypocrite, and a pretty damn shallow one at that. Please either grow up or head on over to Kos where that crap belongs.
If you don’t meet this criteria; then more power to you… have at her. I truly wonder how many of you people would actually have the courage and honesty to say it to her face. I give Kirsten that much at least; wish I could say the same for half of you.
Cary on August 25, 2006 at 1:55 PM
One of my Old War Dogs, a 30-year Air Force vet, caught that same H&C and reacted to it about like you did. Read his post on it here.
bdfaith on August 25, 2006 at 2:17 PM
The problem I have with Ann is that she is not as great a debater as she is a writer. I totally love her columns and I read her books cover to cover. They were great, awesome. But I’ve never liked her debating style. Most of the time she says things that she’s not able to support because she has no time to do so. I mean, these debates are 5-10 minutes at the most, while her books and columns, although controversial, usually show her reasoning behind the things she says. I prefer it that way, and she makes more sense also.
On her being atractive or not, well, the only thing I’ll say it’s that I agree with the comments saying she needs a new dress. I’m sorry, but she needs VARIETY in her wardrobe PRONTO!!!
batperez on August 25, 2006 at 2:49 PM
It falls to me to explain what everybody else fail to see.
Ann was abandoned by Hannity. He was either taking a piss or doing his hair but he was not in his chair doing his job. Powers & Brown were left to have their way with the microphones. Ann sat there patiently waiting for Hannity to come in and break up the chanting but he failed to arrive. View the end of the segment and you will notice Ann wondering where Sean is. There is no reason why anyone should be expected to sit there while two boors each try to deliver one monologue.
thegreatbeast on August 25, 2006 at 3:07 PM
thegreatbeast, along with Hannity either “taking a piss or doing his hair”, the director of the show was either deeply ingulfed in BDS or having a brain-drain.
Entelechy on August 25, 2006 at 4:04 PM
Sounds like Ms. Powers is a typical lib. Doesn’t want to hear the other side, doesn’t want to acknowledge it, but does want to shut it up.
RepJ on August 25, 2006 at 4:11 PM
Okay, to those commenting that “Ann should eat more”=”I don’t like Ann”=”lib troll,” I have a bit of news for you.
When I concur that Ann needs to eat more, it’s because she is *painfully* thin and I want to see her look a little healthier. When I criticized her outfit on the cover of Godless it was because she looks like she’s wearing a black gymnastics leotard. It is an unattractive look.
In other words, I want to see Ann look *more* attractive. I think she makes a lot of sense the vast majority of the time, I love that she is fearless, that she will take the heat for saying a good many things I would like to say. It’s because I already agree with her on many points that I fall to nitpicking her thinness or a particular outfit. People who hate Ann would do far better to start trying to counter her arguments *first,* before getting on the insult train.
Anwyn on August 25, 2006 at 5:38 PM
Pablo, in response to my comment about KP being on without her make-up one time and being literally unrecognizable said:
Lol, dude… Estrich, why did you go there? I was about to eat. I’m sorry, but she is terrifying.. the whole package, voice, attitude, looks, ideas, I just got the chills.
As for Huddy, yeah she’s hot.. but she got an FNC make-over because travel back like 3 years in her early days on Fox & Friends and she wasn’t anything like she is now. Anyway, just to add my two cents, I would say that instead of Huddy in your comments I would have used either Kiran Chetry, Julie Banderas, or Rebecca Gomez… Though there are plenty more at FNC.
RightWinged on August 25, 2006 at 6:30 PM
Entelechy,
Don’t you hate it when you’re trying to refute someone’s assertion with a link and they’re already beat you to it?
baldilocks on August 25, 2006 at 7:24 PM
they’ve
baldilocks on August 25, 2006 at 7:25 PM
baldilocks, I actually got the 2nd link straight from your post and connected it to one of my grandma’s sayings (the apple tree :)
P.S. I didn’t make the connection that the other guest was who he is, until I saw your post – then I remembered his father and the accident, etc.
Entelechy on August 25, 2006 at 9:29 PM
The tactic you describe comes right from the left’s playbook. They perfected this technique in the late 60′s and is designed to marginalize effective spokesperson from the right and to control the dialog.
“Never let them get a word in edgewise” is their way of monopolizing the conversation and preventing opposition ideas from being heard. Consideration, respect for other’s point of view, taking turns in debate, and a general civility in debate — all things we were taught as the proper way to exchange ideas in the marketplace of ideas — do not work if your goal is to win, no matter what, and at all costs.
What Ms. Powers did to Ms. Coulter was, no doubt, “red meat” to the left or those that do not like Coulter, but to anybody else, Powers proved to be a pedagogue, a talking-point manikin, who had no interest in discussion, just in shouting down her by erecting a standard leftwing strawman argument — Osama bin Laden being still at large.
The points that Coulter raised about exactly what part of the fighting terrorism do the Democrats support warrant a discussion. We didn’t get that.
What we got was evasion from Ms. Powers, who like many Democrats hide behind the failure to get bin Laden as if it is the only measure of success.
What Coulter did not have a chance to develop is the idea that instead of being in personal control of an organization capable of striking — at will — anywhere on the planet, bin Laden is reduced to making “motivational videos,” and rather lame ones at that, from “a secure location, somewhere in West Pakistan” — which is code for some cave where our bombs can’t reach him.
Coulter was prevented from explaining this because Powers simply shouted her down and cut her off, ultimately proving that the Democrats have no answer to Coulter’s charges.
At some time, the Democrats will have to explain what their plan is and tell us why their plan is better than Bush’s, and CONVINCE us that their solution is the proper one to the issue of terrorism, if they want to have any chance at taking back power.
Ms. Powers proved incapable of doing that. Pitty.
georgej on August 26, 2006 at 4:28 AM
This proverb reminds me of Ms. Powers:
A beautiful woman who rejects good sense is like a gold ring in a pig’s snout.
Prov 11:22 (HCSB)
Acts20:24 on August 26, 2006 at 10:41 PM