How in the world are we supposed to stop people from getting to the u.s.?

The same we we control murder amd robbery, enforce the law. Of course it will never catch all law breakers but it will catch many more than we do no by openly signalling the law will not be enforced.

Impose huge tax penalties on all employers who hire illegals. As of right now, immigration laws are being enforced only upon political enemies of whoever is in the White Housel and all others get the green light, tax fraud and all.

Because the executive branch has broadcast to the world that we will not enforce our laws against illegal entry if you are Mexican, the people will continue to come, by invitation only. The difference between enforcing the law, and not enforcing the law is the difference between a crime rate and anarchy.

BUT, I still think that deporting illegal aliens and not their legal children is a recipe for disast

Why should children ever be separated from their parents, child abuse aside? Does the State own the children, or do the parents? Children belong with their parents. Period. They should go home with their parents.

Remember Elian. Ship out the kids. Bye-Bye.

It escapes me why some humans should be granted de facto citizenship just because their parents committed a crime against America. This is the last situation for any nation to grant citizenship, unless suicide is the national goal.

You want to be angry, be angry with your government who refuses to act on this because of the cheap labor (big business trumping all else, surprise, surprise) and because of the fear of alienating the Hispanic vote.

For the most part, Miami-Dade County is populated by individuals fleeing a tyrannical regime, and their offspring. They are here LEGALLY. Contrary to O’Reilly’s asessment, they do assimilate, at least enough to learn some basic English and not be a burden unto the system. Is there a despot, or a tyrant in Mexico City? Are prople being tortured and shot for dissenting? Not exactly. They are NOT here legally. When O’Phonesex lumps everybody together like that, he sounds just like a liberal. What a friggin’ phony.

The origin of O’Reilly’s problem is the bogus category of “Hispanic” which lumps together different ethnic groups (European, Aztec/Maya) and cultures (Mexican, everyone else but Mexico). Like most other Latin Americans, Cubans go out of their way to distinguish themselves from Mexicans; it’s only dumb Americans in their foolhardiness that lump the two together.

So if we’re victim to sloppy thinking, false dichotomies and all the rest, it’s our own damn fault. (And, like a chump, O’Reilly just takes it and runs w/it.)

I believe we should change our laws so that simply being born in the USA does not guarantee citizenship.

I’ve been wondering how this could be sold to the public in such a way that the PC racism charge could be checkmated. One idea is to leave citizenship on the table for all foreign nationals who have a green card. Not to say that’s right either, but it’s a heck of a lot better than what we have – it takes all illegals off the table while inoculating the plan against charges of rank xenophobia, and puts the burden on the other side to argue why the children of tourists, diplomats and illegals ought to be granted an extraordinary PRIVELEGE.

After all who are we, the United States, to split family loyalties by offering citizenship only to some family members and not others?

If the kids are citizens, they can stay here (alone or with legal guardians) if they want, but they can also choose to go with their parents.

It’s no fun for kids when Daddy goes to jail, but that isn’t a reason to let criminals off the hook. It’s no fun when Daddy goes to work in a different city, or a different country, or divorces Mommy, but people make those decisions too. In this case, the families can stay together if they like: just not here.

The illegals made their choices, and rescuing them from the consequences is not our problem. Whereas we do still have time to rescue ourselves from our own past decisions….

Those who can’t find jobs can help build the walls. Those here illegally and incarcerated can help build the walls. Those here illegally who want to stay can help build the walls at a decent pay rate that will be used to offset the costs of having been here illegally. If they don’t like it, put them over the walls.

Here in Cali we are adding a new magnet…a minimum wage increase to $8.00/hr is before the legislature.

The anchor baby thing should also be changed.

When we have 10 families to a small home it not only screws up the sewage system, blocks the streets with crappy cars, and makes for a lot of noise, it’s also unfair to those legally paying taxes and rent/mortgage for a normal number of people per household. It brings down property values, changes neighborhood dynamics (something Mexico’s immigration policy outlaws) and strains schools and ERs.

The law is the law. If they can get off breaking the law, we should be able to also- by not paying taxes. After all, there should be No Taxation Without Representation, and the taxpayers are not being represented on this issue.

Three words: Angry White Female.

Is this supposed to be referring to Michelle?

To pullingmyhairout: you say you live in south Texas?

Yes.

Mexico needs to clean up its act-but not in your lifetime? Nuevo Laredo was safe but not anymore?

Yes. Ask SHMO.

many people (from Mexico) come here to make a better life

True again.

but we need to change our constitution?

Yep. To solve the anchor baby phenomena.

their homes in Mexico are so bad you would’nt let your dog live it!

yuh huh.

Why could’nt you ask yourself how they could change THEIR country, why does it always come to we need to change our constitution.

Because sister, Mexico ISN’T going to change. They have it pretty good there – exporting poverty to us and taking our money in return. If we want to solve the long term immigration, then removing the incentives for them to come here is paramount. Having an anchor baby is a HUGE incentive.

On the other hand, there is a part of Nuevo Laredo where my buddies and I like to go eat. The only parking there is on the street with parking meters.

Would that be Victoria’s? Please tell me its not Pappagallos :) (I think I spelled that right).

SHMO, you are probably a little older than me, if I understand you correctly – you probably did a little white wing hunting in Mexico. It was a lot easier years ago to take your ‘hunting equipment’ across. I understand now that it is virtually impossible. Also, glad to see a fellow Texan on the board. Yee Ha!

I too would build the fence and patrol it like Fort Knox. The United States is a sacred place to me and I want to protect the people that respect our rule of law and make this country the best in the world from the selfesh law breakers that disrespect our Country and it’s people. We may need immigrants, but we need the kind that have the right stuff to follow the rules instead of being hell bent on turning the US into just another 3rd world litter box.

For the most part, Miami-Dade County is populated by individuals fleeing a tyrannical regime, and their offspring. They are here LEGALLY. Contrary to O’Reilly’s asessment, they do assimilate, at least enough to learn some basic English and not be a burden unto the system. Is there a despot, or a tyrant in Mexico City? Are prople being tortured and shot for dissenting? Not exactly. They are NOT here legally. When O’Phonesex lumps everybody together like that, he sounds just like a liberal. What a friggin’ phony.

If (if if was a fifth, we’d all be drunk, I know) I were President, I’d declare a Federal State of Emergency along BOTH borders, north AND south, and Executive Order that damn fence.

PS I too am from Texas.

PMHO, you and Shmo should both check thisout. Shmo, just to increase your blood pressure more, PMHO, to give you a sense of how truly deleterious this problem is to our country.

NTWR on August 24, 2006 at 1:46 PM

Yes, that site totally increases the bald spot currently growing larger on the left side of my head…BUT, I still think that deporting illegal aliens and not their legal children is a recipe for disaster. I agree with SHMO – change the constitution – must have at least one parent who is an American citizen in order to be one yourself. That’s a great long-term solution.

SHMO, obviously, this topic makes your blood boil. If you have seen the shanties that they call houses that are spitting distance across the Rio Grande in Nuevo Laredo, you will understand why we have the problem we do. I wouldn’t let my dog live in one of those, and yet there are people raising their kids in them. Yes, Mexico needs to clean up its act – but do you really think that’s going to happen? not in my lifetime and I’ve been visiting the border since I was a small child. it used to be safe to cruise over into Nuevo Laredo. Not anymore. But please, have a heart and understand that MANY, MANY people want to come here to make a better life for themselves and their families. I live in south texas and run across them daily.

I want illegals to be rounded up and sent back whether it breaks up families or not.

*wow* that’s pretty harsh. what do you think is going to happen to the LEGAL minor children of ILLEGAL parents? While I don’t like illegal immigration, I at least have a HEART. sheesh.