Video: Michelle talks immigration on O’Reilly
posted at 9:32 am on August 24, 2006 by Allahpundit
She was tanned, rested, and ready, and O’R was kind enough to serve up her pet topic for discussion. Is there really a reconquista? Will L.A. turn into Dade County? And how are illegal immigrants from Mexico any different from Cuban-Americans?
Answer: They aren’t. Hopefully.
I’m reliably informed that next Tuesday’s O’Reilly program will be a very special one indeed. Bill will be out of town, so they’ve arranged for a guest host…
No, it’s not Bethany.
Update: Forgot to mention: the OC Register recently profiled Eduardo Sotelo, a.k.a. El Piolin, a.k.a. “Tweety Bird.” He’s a DJ in LA and, believe it or not, an important figure in the amnesty movement. Michelle once “debated” him on Fox & Friends. Video here.
Estimated cost to implement that McCain-endorsed Senate amnesty bill? $126 billion.
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Call me wrong but i just don’t think that the mexican/spanish/central american women sitting at the bus stops waiting for a ride to clean houses are actively plotting to take over the American Southwest.
I agree that illegal immigration is out of control. we went down to laredo recently and on our way home, went through two border patrol checkpoints. they looked at our lilly white faces and let us pass. my comment during the drive home was about all the TRASH i saw on the side of the road next to vast ranches. How in the world are we supposed to stop people from getting to the u.s.? They want to be here so badly that they are willing to risk their lives (sleeping with rattlesnakes, coyotes and the occasional panther, lack of water, etc) to get here.
But seriously, there are some who want to reclaim the American Southwest – but it is my opinion that the vast majority of those protesters went along for the ride and for an opportunity to see themselves on t.v.
pullingmyhairout on August 24, 2006 at 9:51 AM
The point that Bill always misses is that the ileagals and even a lot of the legal Mexicans that are here are just that – Mexicans. They are not Americans and they don’t want to be. We’re not pushing assimilation and they certainly aren’t trying to assimilate. I grew up in San Jose CA and remember all the Mexican flags on the 4th. The 4th by the way was dwarfed by the Cinco de Mayo celebrations. As long as you have people living here in the USA who don’t consider themselves Americans it’s BAD. Little Havana or LA, it doesn’t matter.
2wylde on August 24, 2006 at 10:27 AM
Three words: Angry White Female.
I don’t think that appearance and her “reasoning” was of much help to the cause. Actually, she did fan those flames that good people like, uhm, Allahpundit on this very site try to extinguish.
No, not helpful at all.
Niko on August 24, 2006 at 10:27 AM
Aw Michelle is good looking too. Zoiks, hopefully this will not turn into some video blogging Dynasty-like catfight. :)
A great segment as always. Keep the fight up.
GenFX on August 24, 2006 at 10:29 AM
I was driving this morning down the Little River Turnpike in Annandale, VA, and there were literally 200 illegals lining the stretch from the Little River Shopping Center to the 7-11 (a stretch of about a 1/4 of a mile), waiting to be picked up for contracting and construction day jobs.
Supposedly this is what it is like every weekday. But President Bush, just a stone’s throw away reminds us that illegals are “in the shadows.” He definitely needs to get out more often.
What is comical is that the landscaping and contracting prices in Northern Virginia have not come down from their exorbitant heights. The ONLY people benefiting from this illegal labor are the business owners, who are not passing on the savings to the consumer. Yet, we are paying sky-high real estate taxes in Fairfax County to educate the illegals’ children (53% of the budget of Fairfax County goes to the school system; much of it ESL and special education classes) and to pay for their health care.
How are American citizens benefiting from illegal immigration? I think it is time to start sending “cero dineros” again to the RNC.
januarius on August 24, 2006 at 10:38 AM
Well perhaps the illegal women looking for house cleaning jobs don’t want to take over America but I have some strong doubts myself. These people don’t want to assimilate into our culture, they don’t want to learn the language and they act like they own this country. I think they should throw the business owners in jail and throw a way the key. While I am not currently teaching here in HI, I wonder if I will have to be bi-lingual to get a job when we return to the mainland. I am certified to teach in VA & GA, where illegal aliens have come in vast numbers. I think it’s disgusting that they waved their Mexican flag on their march demanding that we give them their rights. What do we owe these people? Nothing, they broke the law. The need to get that through their thick heads. I don’t care from whence they came, they’re illegal and need to get out. I came over when Ian shut down ETL so some of you may have heard this before, if so-sorry. In 2003, I gave birth to a daughter with Down Syndrome in Hopewell, VA. She had to be transferred the next day to the Medical College of VA, in Richmond. In the same NICU there were triplet anchor babies born to illegals. The nurses had to constantly find someone to translate no matter what time of the day or night. Well, my daughter was in just about a month and her bill was well into the 6 figures. We have Tricare, military insurance but even though the hospital wrote off a portion of our bill we still have to pay almost 26K on her bill. Luckily, we had been saving money for a house and had the money because they were not to keen on a payment plan. On the other hand the anchor babies who were in the same amount of time got medicaid and didn’t have to pay one thin dime. You know, we worked really hard to save that money and did without so we could be able to have 50K to put down on a house. Well, when we got here we only had 23K and a larger house payment. However, the illegals got off scott free and continue to get whatever their three anchor babies can bring in for them. They probably have more. I know many people think that I am a mean person and I am sorry if that is the way you feel. When my ancestors came through they came through a port of entry. If my husband and I were to have come here in 1820 as my relatives did, well we would be turned away because of my daughter. I think when people say “Well, our ancestors may have come illegally too”, they’re missing the point. People were turned away with tb, “feeble mindedness”, and other diseases. There were no welfare agencies to take them in. They had to come, learn English, get a job and work hard. I’m not saying the illegals don’t work hard but . . .
President Bush needs to get a clue about this problem and so do all the others. This is a major mistake giving them everything and it’s probably too late to really do much about it. Just because we want them to assimilate does not make us racist, just because we want to protect our borders does not make us a racist!
Catie96706 on August 24, 2006 at 12:51 PM
Wish we had a preview key!
Catie96706 on August 24, 2006 at 12:52 PM
Nah, it’s no problemo, they’re just doing jobs Americans won’t do, and sending bucket loads of cash back to Mexico while reaping the rewards of our “Great Society”-all illegally I might add. Not to be offensive though.
I mean, there’s no way we can possibly harvest our crops without the PC slave labor from third world countries!
Americans are waaayyy too stupid to come up with any methods of eliminating the need for Mexicans to clean our houses. We might as well just give the Southwest back to its rightful owners.
NTWR on August 24, 2006 at 12:59 PM
Our government is asleep at the wheel on immigration. I want illegals to be rounded up and sent back whether it breaks up families or not. They are criminals that ignored our laws. When you are in command, command!
We didn’t vote in the Mexicans, we voted in Americans. All this talk about amnesty is sick. Illegals bring in disease, corruption, gangs, public expenses, and illiteracy. It should not be my problem that Mexico is a trainwreck and the people are illiterate and ignorant. They should stay in Mexico with their peers and not force down the lowest common denominator here in our schools, government, and society. BE GONE!
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 1:16 PM
Guest host on the O’Reilley Factor – “no, it’s not Bethany”, it’s Ms. Powers
Entelechy on August 24, 2006 at 1:17 PM
*wow* that’s pretty harsh. what do you think is going to happen to the LEGAL minor children of ILLEGAL parents? While I don’t like illegal immigration, I at least have a HEART. sheesh.
pullingmyhairout on August 24, 2006 at 1:19 PM
I believe we should change our laws so that simply being born in the USA does not guarantee citizenship. (Like the children of forign diplomats) When you rob a bank, there are consiquences that come with the territory. When you are an illegal, there are also consiquences that come with the territory. If you are an illegal with children born here, you have a choice; Take them back to Mexico with you, or choose to have your family broken up. We have enough problem citizens here already and they need our attention, not selfish illegals wanting all the freebees here with no concern for all the problems they create.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 1:30 PM
Mexico is an unmitigated disaster replete with corruption at all levels of government and society. Laws are ignored and treated as obstacles to sidestep. This mentality totally pervades the Mexican culture, and the consequences result in the sad shape Mexico is in. Gangs control the police, poor education, poor social services, poor economy, hopelessness, etc. Mexicans need to focus on Mexico and clean that mess up instead of importing the culture of corruption and lack of respect for the law over here. I’m sorry, but I an sick and tired of illegals demonstrating a complete disrespect for our laws and people. Let them eat beans.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 1:42 PM
PMHO, you and Shmo should both check thisout. Shmo, just to increase your blood pressure more, PMHO, to give you a sense of how truly deleterious this problem is to our country.
NTWR on August 24, 2006 at 1:46 PM
To Michelle Malkin thank you so much! Words cannot express how much I appreciate what you said, you spoke for me and the silent millions of Americans who get it! Sadly, Bill O’Reilly is very much out of touch with the working poor Americans like myself. I grew up (a white minority) in a small farming town. This is about the MOVEMENT! Bill O’Reilly and people who don’t ‘get it’, live a different life than white poor Americans. In my church the name was changed from St. Patricks Parrish to Our Lady Of Guatelupe-so the majority could identify also English Masses ended (children’s bible study too) everything changed to Spanish. The small amount of white citizens were expected to drive to the white church (as they called it) about 8 miles. Many Catholic farmers were fed up with the bi-lingual education system so they pulled money together and built a privite school, they were called racist for doing so-not!! This was 20 years ago! The local DMV (all hispanic) got busted for charging their ‘personal’ fee if you wanted a drivers license! Also, local Chamber of Commerce ended when they started their own Hispanic Chamber. I could go on but my point is white Americans are expected to assimulate, I and my four children speak Spanish, but I cant change my skin color. There is never an end to what they blame us, and we could never change enough to assimmulate, were still going to be called white racists. And thats the problem!
mimi on August 24, 2006 at 1:52 PM
I am sick and tired of hearing how much we “benefit” from illegals. The truth is they are destroying healthcare, the education system, property values, the criminal justice system, and if our ridiculous government has its way, social security too. All this for yard work and “affordable” fruits and vegetables and we are supposed to be getting the benefit of the bargain? Who comes up with this “genius” logic? Better yet why isn’t every legal, taxpaying american shouting from the rooftops how insane this all is?
America1st on August 24, 2006 at 1:58 PM
I have spent quite a bit of time in Mexico over the years. What do you think would happen if they found me there without a visa? What about with a gun and no Mexican hunting license or Generals papers? If you get pulled over, the cop expects a bribe, and they really F@#% you up if you don’t offer one. What if I got in a wreck and needed to go to the hospital and had no money? What if I wanted to enroll my kids in a Mexican school? If you are legally hunting in Mexico with all the right paperwork, and your registered rifle is a 30-06 caliber and they find (1) .308 round lost in your car, you go to prison. They are crazy strict, and I believe in reciprocity. They sincerely believe we are really stupid throwing money and services at criminal illegals, and I agree with them.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 2:00 PM
I have an old buddy that is a banker in San Antonio. His main focus these days is catering to rich Mexican nationals wanting to get their money out of Mexico and safe in a Texas bank. They don’t trust Mexico, but as long as their money is safe, they stay there. A lot of this was ahead of the last election because they were afraid Oberdor would strip them of their money. Many of the landowners there I know were worried that the ranches they have had in their family for years would be stripped like what happened a few decades ago with other Mexican ranches. Back then, land was taken and given to collectives of peasants. Today, those collectives are easy to spot because the vegetation is gone. That land is in such bad shape, the peasants are relegated to catching rats (with dogs) for food. I have seen them with a rattlesnake rattle on the end of a long stick. They shake it in front of a rat hole, and when the rat comes out, the dog grabs it. You have never seen a dog get a beating until you see a dog eat the rat before the peasant gets to it. Reality is that if you simply give peasants land in a collective setting, they have no respect for it and wipe it out quick. The same thing happens here when we give everything to them.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 2:17 PM
Oh about that ‘doing the jobs Americans wont do BS’ migrant workers have a Union, farmers (as of 20 plus years ago) have a contract with the Farm Workers Union (illegal immigrants from Mexico)-farmers are not allowed to hire ANYONE outside that union. They receive free housing called migrant housing (their apartments) also they have a free medical Farmer Workers Clinic. It’s shocking how HotAir readers are 20 years behind what we in middle America have been living with!!
mimi on August 24, 2006 at 2:23 PM
Thanks NTWR. I’m already fighting mad.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 2:28 PM
Yes, that site totally increases the bald spot currently growing larger on the left side of my head…BUT, I still think that deporting illegal aliens and not their legal children is a recipe for disaster. I agree with SHMO – change the constitution – must have at least one parent who is an American citizen in order to be one yourself. That’s a great long-term solution.
SHMO, obviously, this topic makes your blood boil. If you have seen the shanties that they call houses that are spitting distance across the Rio Grande in Nuevo Laredo, you will understand why we have the problem we do. I wouldn’t let my dog live in one of those, and yet there are people raising their kids in them. Yes, Mexico needs to clean up its act – but do you really think that’s going to happen? not in my lifetime and I’ve been visiting the border since I was a small child. it used to be safe to cruise over into Nuevo Laredo. Not anymore. But please, have a heart and understand that MANY, MANY people want to come here to make a better life for themselves and their families. I live in south texas and run across them daily.
pullingmyhairout on August 24, 2006 at 2:34 PM
PMHO, I have been to Nuevo Laredo more times than I would like to admit over the last 30 years. It’s a funny thing because Mexico is such a dichotomy. I have had a ball there and in some ways you have more freedom there. If you want to light up in an elevator, light up. If you want to put 3 people on a motorcycle, that’s your business. If you get drunk as a skunk and fall down the stairs, there are no law suits filed on the bar. They got a lot of nice girls there too.
PS I too am from Texas.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 2:55 PM
On the other hand, there is a part of Nuevo Laredo where my buddies and I like to go eat. The only parking there is on the street with parking meters. On the stretch of a street where we park there is an old man. You don’t put your money in the meter, but you give the money to him. If the cops come, he feeds the meter. If not, he pockets the money. For that, he keeps an eye on your car while you are eating. He has been there for years, and it illustrates how deep corruption is in the society.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 3:03 PM
To pullingmyhairout: you say you live in south Texas? Mexico needs to clean up its act-but not in your lifetime? Nuevo Laredo was safe but not anymore? many people (from Mexico) come here to make a better life-but we need to change our constitution? their homes in Mexico are so bad you would’nt let your dog live it! Why could’nt you ask yourself how they could change THEIR country, why does it always come to we need to change our constitution.
mimi on August 24, 2006 at 3:05 PM
L.A. as Dade County? O’Reilly needs to get back to phonesexing his assistants, and leave the immigration discussions to people who have a clue. What a clown.
For the most part, Miami-Dade County is populated by individuals fleeing a tyrannical regime, and their offspring. They are here LEGALLY. Contrary to O’Reilly’s asessment, they do assimilate, at least enough to learn some basic English and not be a burden unto the system. Is there a despot, or a tyrant in Mexico City? Are prople being tortured and shot for dissenting? Not exactly. They are NOT here legally. When O’Phonesex lumps everybody together like that, he sounds just like a liberal. What a friggin’ phony.
If (if if was a fifth, we’d all be drunk, I know) I were President, I’d declare a Federal State of Emergency along BOTH borders, north AND south, and Executive Order that damn fence.
Kid from Brooklyn on August 24, 2006 at 3:10 PM
Amen, Kid from Brooklyn.
I too would build the fence and patrol it like Fort Knox. The United States is a sacred place to me and I want to protect the people that respect our rule of law and make this country the best in the world from the selfesh law breakers that disrespect our Country and it’s people. We may need immigrants, but we need the kind that have the right stuff to follow the rules instead of being hell bent on turning the US into just another 3rd world litter box.
Shmo on August 24, 2006 at 3:32 PM
Yes.
Yes. Ask SHMO.
True again.
Yep. To solve the anchor baby phenomena.
yuh huh.
Because sister, Mexico ISN’T going to change. They have it pretty good there – exporting poverty to us and taking our money in return. If we want to solve the long term immigration, then removing the incentives for them to come here is paramount. Having an anchor baby is a HUGE incentive.
Would that be Victoria’s? Please tell me its not Pappagallos :) (I think I spelled that right).
SHMO, you are probably a little older than me, if I understand you correctly – you probably did a little white wing hunting in Mexico. It was a lot easier years ago to take your ‘hunting equipment’ across. I understand now that it is virtually impossible. Also, glad to see a fellow Texan on the board. Yee Ha!
pullingmyhairout on August 24, 2006 at 3:54 PM
Is this supposed to be referring to Michelle?
mikeyboss on August 24, 2006 at 4:29 PM
I agree about a border wall on the north and south sides. I think we should simultaneously end welfare for the able-bodied and slam the borders shut.
Those who can’t find jobs can help build the walls. Those here illegally and incarcerated can help build the walls. Those here illegally who want to stay can help build the walls at a decent pay rate that will be used to offset the costs of having been here illegally. If they don’t like it, put them over the walls.
Here in Cali we are adding a new magnet…a minimum wage increase to $8.00/hr is before the legislature.
The anchor baby thing should also be changed.
When we have 10 families to a small home it not only screws up the sewage system, blocks the streets with crappy cars, and makes for a lot of noise, it’s also unfair to those legally paying taxes and rent/mortgage for a normal number of people per household. It brings down property values, changes neighborhood dynamics (something Mexico’s immigration policy outlaws) and strains schools and ERs.
The law is the law. If they can get off breaking the law, we should be able to also- by not paying taxes. After all, there should be No Taxation Without Representation, and the taxpayers are not being represented on this issue.
NTWR on August 24, 2006 at 5:18 PM
PMHO:
As to deporting illegals (by force, or by changing the laws so that they’ll tend to deport themselves), breaking up families is not America’s problem.
If the kids are citizens, they can stay here (alone or with legal guardians) if they want, but they can also choose to go with their parents.
It’s no fun for kids when Daddy goes to jail, but that isn’t a reason to let criminals off the hook. It’s no fun when Daddy goes to work in a different city, or a different country, or divorces Mommy, but people make those decisions too. In this case, the families can stay together if they like: just not here.
The illegals made their choices, and rescuing them from the consequences is not our problem. Whereas we do still have time to rescue ourselves from our own past decisions….
kate q on August 24, 2006 at 6:40 PM
The origin of O’Reilly’s problem is the bogus category of “Hispanic” which lumps together different ethnic groups (European, Aztec/Maya) and cultures (Mexican, everyone else but Mexico). Like most other Latin Americans, Cubans go out of their way to distinguish themselves from Mexicans; it’s only dumb Americans in their foolhardiness that lump the two together.
So if we’re victim to sloppy thinking, false dichotomies and all the rest, it’s our own damn fault. (And, like a chump, O’Reilly just takes it and runs w/it.)
I’ve been wondering how this could be sold to the public in such a way that the PC racism charge could be checkmated. One idea is to leave citizenship on the table for all foreign nationals who have a green card. Not to say that’s right either, but it’s a heck of a lot better than what we have – it takes all illegals off the table while inoculating the plan against charges of rank xenophobia, and puts the burden on the other side to argue why the children of tourists, diplomats and illegals ought to be granted an extraordinary PRIVELEGE.
After all who are we, the United States, to split family loyalties by offering citizenship only to some family members and not others?
RD on August 25, 2006 at 7:09 AM
I am constantly amazed by the rhetoric on this subject. The vast majority of illegals are here to make a decent wage. Can’t argue with their motives, would do the same thing if the well being of family depended on it. So all the rancor directed against these poor people is hard to understand. I guess technically they are criminals but that’s pretty harsh.
You want to be angry, be angry with your government who refuses to act on this because of the cheap labor (big business trumping all else, surprise, surprise) and because of the fear of alienating the Hispanic vote.
honora on August 25, 2006 at 12:27 PM
The same we we control murder amd robbery, enforce the law. Of course it will never catch all law breakers but it will catch many more than we do no by openly signalling the law will not be enforced.
Impose huge tax penalties on all employers who hire illegals. As of right now, immigration laws are being enforced only upon political enemies of whoever is in the White Housel and all others get the green light, tax fraud and all.
Because the executive branch has broadcast to the world that we will not enforce our laws against illegal entry if you are Mexican, the people will continue to come, by invitation only. The difference between enforcing the law, and not enforcing the law is the difference between a crime rate and anarchy.
Why should children ever be separated from their parents, child abuse aside? Does the State own the children, or do the parents? Children belong with their parents. Period. They should go home with their parents.
Remember Elian. Ship out the kids. Bye-Bye.
It escapes me why some humans should be granted de facto citizenship just because their parents committed a crime against America. This is the last situation for any nation to grant citizenship, unless suicide is the national goal.
entagor on August 25, 2006 at 12:35 PM