Report: Arab passengers said it was “the last 30 minutes of their lives”
posted at 6:36 pm on August 22, 2006 by Allahpundit
I got up on the soapbox yesterday about this so it’s only right that I follow up. According to one of the passengers, the two guys who were forced off that flight from Malaga were guilty of more than just speaking Arabic and wearing unseasonable outerwear. Quoth the Beeb:
Mr Wearden, who was returning from a nine-day holiday with his wife and three children, said the first he became aware anything unusual was happening was as the plane was due to take off and “the family in front of us just got off”…
The captain then spoke to the two men and returned to the cockpit with their passports, said Mr Wearden.
“We were then asked to get off the plane and go back to the airport where they did a full security check.”
It was then, he said, that his wife Susanne began talking to another passenger who said she had sat next to the two men.
“She said she had heard them saying it was the last 30 minutes of their lives,” said Mr Wearden.
“It may well be that the two simply thought they were being funny, but it perhaps better explains the passenger reaction.”
Three possibilities:
1. They said it and meant it. They were terrorists who, in accordance with standard jihadi protocol, politely interrupted their conversation in Arabic to state openly, in English, before the flight took off, that they planned to kill everyone onboard.
2. They said it and didn’t mean it. They were wiseasses who, perhaps sensing the woman’s anxiety about having to sit next to them, chose to goose her with an extraordinarily bad joke.
3. They didn’t say it. She either misheard what they said or simply invented a threat to justify her paranoia about being around them. Hearsay, in other words.
Number 1′s the least likely, but who’d want to chance it?










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Allah, how would you have reacted in scenario 1 & 2?
I, sincerely, don’t know about my reaction to 1 & 2 and I know that I wouldn’t have gone to 3 because I fly a lot and would have probably already entered into a conversation…especially with foreigners.
Entelechy on August 22, 2006 at 6:58 PM
If I’d heard anyone say something about a threat, even as hearsay, I’d want some very thorough re-screening.
Allahpundit on August 22, 2006 at 6:59 PM
So, they said the 30 minutes thing in English or did the lady speak Arabic and hear it that way?
Thanks for the follow up, A.
NTWR on August 22, 2006 at 7:02 PM
Agree, 1 and 2 definitely necessitate talking to the crew.
Entelechy on August 22, 2006 at 7:03 PM
Unfortunately, all three involve taking it to the crew. There’s no way to know which one it is. You have to err on the side of caution.
Allahpundit on August 22, 2006 at 7:05 PM
I’m thinking it was an Arabic speaking woman who heard them say it in Arabic.
pjcomix on August 22, 2006 at 7:06 PM
Isn’t erring on the side of caution one of the reasons they aren’t profiling at American airports today?
Airport security. What a joke.
DannoJyd on August 22, 2006 at 7:12 PM
True, but look at all the crap the passengers got over the whole thing.
It’s similar to thinking you might be having a heart attack but not wanting to go to the hospital for fear of being labeled a hypochondriac.
In the case of (possible)life or death, sometimes it’s worth being embarrassed or labeled.
It makes me mad to even have these situations to deal with. It’s a mad world these days.
NTWR on August 22, 2006 at 7:12 PM
Better safe than sorry has taken on a whole new meaning. Political correctness goes out the window (tahnk goodness).
darwin on August 22, 2006 at 7:22 PM
IMHO, we won’t have that problem in America. Instead, the terrorists will be allowed to board as the same lousy airport security people that were working prior to 9/11 occupy themselves by strip searching some innocent 90 year old white woman, and her poodle.
For those with short memories, the answer from congress to correct the blatant problem of having really poor security personel at our airports was to Unionize those.
DannoJyd on August 22, 2006 at 7:38 PM
I said yesterday that it wasnt that they were Arab-looking it was that they were acting suspiciously ( my inference from reading the news reports). It looks like that was the case.
Even IF it were a “joke”…it is a bully-boy kind of joke and the deserved the reaction.
labwrs on August 22, 2006 at 7:51 PM
Is this the first step in forcing airline security to improve?
Kudos to this pack.
kate q on August 22, 2006 at 8:12 PM
Words like that are tantamount to saying “I have a bomb” in an airport, and as the signs in airports say, It’s no F***NG joke. Quite literally, it’s communicating threats.
If, however, this was some kind of sick-ass muslim version of “humor,” these guys are just plain evil, cowardly, bullying bastards, typical of their mu-slime brethren. That’s the more likely scenario to me, as I assume they were searched and checked out thoroughly before being put on another plane.
They should have been taken to MI5 for a lengthy and uncomfortable interrogation, in my book.
Benthoven on August 22, 2006 at 10:08 PM
Hmmm, let’s see.
If I report the guys and it turns out they were just BS’ing, I risk being embarrassed.
If I don’t report the guys and it turns out they weren’t BS’ing, the plane gets blown up and my lifeless body hurtles into the ocean from 30,000+ feet.
Tough choice here.
thirteen28 on August 22, 2006 at 10:16 PM
Wisdom of crowds: Have all the passengers interview each other before flights.
gmoonster on August 22, 2006 at 11:00 PM
thirteen28: it’s easier than that. If they were BS’ing, they’ll still get busted for doing so.
mcg on August 22, 2006 at 11:17 PM
I hate to keep playing devil’s advocate, but (assuming they said it in english), any chance they said “worst 30 minutes of [their] lives?” They’d probably had a really ugly time in security, considering recent events.
Tanya on August 23, 2006 at 7:38 AM
Doubt it.
I hope they were examined intently and sternly, but I doubt it.
What constitutes ugly? To me that would have to be racial insults, not letting them sit down, not letting them go to the bathroom, slapping them around or ripping up their possessions. The other stuff is called being safe.
entagor on August 23, 2006 at 9:46 AM
Why are muslims and arabs still allowed on planes?
modifiedcontent on August 23, 2006 at 9:57 AM
ditto
The so called “Moderate” Muslims (if they even exist) need to take back their religion or just go take a short walk off a tall cliff as far as I’m concerned.
venmax on August 23, 2006 at 10:09 AM
Let’s get this straight. It really doesn’t matter what they did or didn’t say.
If, in this particular case, they were falsely singled out, so what?
Screw them!
We’re not the problem. They are.
If you insist on being Politically Correct regarding this, then screw you too!
there it is on August 23, 2006 at 10:12 AM
Ok folks. Decaf. Really.
I didn’t say I had a problem with what might’ve happened in security. When I flew right after 9/11, I was singled out and genuinely, honestly felt up. Like, hands on girlie bits. By a 60 year old woman, who was as uncomfortable as I was.
Did I care? Not really, tho I would have preferred a private room. It’s just safety. But if I were a man, and had just been third base groped by another guy, I might turn to my friend sitting next to me on the plane and call that “the worst 30 minutes of my life.”
Tanya on August 23, 2006 at 10:49 AM
mcg:
As they should.
Tanya:
She could have at least had the decency to buy you dinner.
thirteen28 on August 23, 2006 at 11:23 AM
There are enough low-self esteemed (and most likely liberal) people in this world that it isn’t crazy to say some people would see how much flak these passengers were given for speaking up and would sit silently in the same situation, just to prevent embarrassment.
As my favorite band would say: “Sad but truuuueeeaaahh!”
And Tanya-I wonder if it was the same one that did that to me? In front of everybody, behind a clear partition. You should have seen how embarrassed, and then alarmed, she got when I mentioned I was wearing a push-up bra as she was feeling me up!
NTWR on August 23, 2006 at 2:00 PM