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Excellent vent but I doubt that anything will change. We want our pork and we want it now. Never mind how useless it is, as long as our congresscritters spend money on stuff for us, we like it. We may fuss at how congresscritters from other states spend money, but our own are doing just fine thank you very much.
I like that you’re a Southern gal. Although I’m still upset that your alma mater stole my alma mater’s favorite football coach away (Mark Richt). Go Noles!
Hey, realVerse. Is that Bethany, I presume? Someone said yesterday I sounded like a Yankee. ha ha. My accent– it’s kind of a small one– tends to disappear when I get nervous. An FSU girl, huh? Thank goodness you’re not a Gator, hee. And, thank you, thank you, thank you for Mark Richt. We dig him.
We have reached the point where a lot of the people are voting for politicians who, rather than doing what is right for God and Country, can simply bring home the bacon. Then you have the liberal voter who either votes out of pure hatred for conservatives and God, or whacko environmental/homosexual/feminist/bleading heart for illegals and criminals/whatever else social issue they happen to be a toadie to. Add those all up and you have precious few who actually seem to give a crap about the United States of America itself anymore.
OK, this is REALLY going to piss a lot of you off, but here it goes. I’m just stating the obvious here: Your pork is my necessity. Who is REALLY to say what is important or not important? The representatives who fight for federal dollars for their districts are doing it for their district. isn’t that what we elect them to do?
That being said, I completely understand the absurdity behind such projects as the ‘bridge to nowhere’ etc. And, I totally agree that something should be done. Maybe if our Prez would just start vetoing some of this crap…i live in a dream world…
But pullingmyhairout, the function of the gov’t shouldn’t be to take our money and use for anything they want. I’d wager most pork is spent for the sole purpose of providing the congresscritter to be able to say to their constituents “I brought $XX million into your district”, thereby giving them a reason to say “Vote to keep me in”. Sure, the “bridge to nowhere” is absurd, but so is the Charles Rangel Center for Public Service. (And I’d venture to say the bridge to nowhere ISN’T absurd to the few people in Alaska who’ll benefit from it>
Congress should NOT use our money for paying for public service centers, nor giving to farmers so they don’t grow crops, or to ’starving artists’ so they can create the next pi** Christ.
I dont mind some sharing but the problem comes when everything is deemed to be a necessity! “Ham on Pork” sheeeeeesh Kid! *lol*
The Pres wont issue a in a pig’s ear(mark)!
Great vent MKH.
Fellow posters, I don’t think the issue is the pork itself. The issue is that this is done out of the public eye. If these “earmarks” were openly discussed and debated at least us common folk who be allowed to chime-in on and hopefully put a stop to the truly outrageous items.
A Republican administration that is not fiscally responsible is no different than a Democratic one. Republicans have been at the trough as much as Democrats, and they will keep swilling as long as they can get away with it. Want to stop or at least dratically cut down on ‘earmarks’? Term limits, term limits, term limits. Forfeiture of government pension for the worst ’silk purse with matching shoes out of a pig’s earmarks’
offenders.
“A Republican administration that is not fiscally responsible is no different than a Democratic one.”
Yes, they are still VERY different. The republican one is far less likely to believe that killing babies in the womb is some sort of “right” hidden in the Constitution that only they can find, far less likely to believe that the first amendment applies to everything from internet pornography to terrorists privacy during phone conversations while believing at the same time that THEY need to totally regulate or ignore the second, far less likely to believe that the REAL threat to the United States is Christianity while capitulating to Islamic terrorists, far less likely to believe that brainwashing young minds by teaching them that evolution theory is not only a “fact” but actually is “real science”, far less likely to put judges on the bench who subscribe to the goofy notions that heinous criminals just need to be rehabilitated and that homosexuals pedophiles are just practicing some other “valid” lifestyle that we need to accept, far less likely to think that Freedom and Liberty is just something that others will “give” you for free if you are nice enough to them, far less likely to believe that stealing other peoples money in higher taxes “stimulates” our economy, far less likely to embrace anti democratic governments or hostile dictatorships as “valid” Nations that the United States and the rest of the free world need understand and aid, far less likely to vote for something before they vote against it, far less likely to waste taxpayers money on attempting to make environmental changes that mankind cannot even begin to control, far less likely to use race as a bait, far less likely to sell their own Country out and become seditious traitors, and on and on and on and on.
I’ll chose the let’s roll crowd over the let’s surrender crowd
Also, Pork busting is fine but in the case of two states I looked at, there were grants to charitable medical organizations for xray equipment, medicine, not services or monuments to politicians also Oklahoma’s grant was almost as much as Rangels Grant to himself. (Oklahoma’s was 100% for medical equipment and records storage not useless crap)
Now the point could be that everyone should pay their own medical expenses - thats another argument but this is not checks to displaced people and welfare receipients working cash jobs off the books either.
Well Mary Katherine, I said you inspired me to do my first video blog and I did! HotAir is mentioned, of course. Though I meant to mention Townhall too and forgot! Forgive me.
Indeed, a lot of the projects might be necessary and/or desirable. The problem is the that vast majority are local in scope! Therefore, they should draw from local and/or private money. We have got to get federal spending back to things of national interest.
The representatives who fight for federal dollars for their districts are doing it for their district. isn’t that what we elect them to do?
Sure. But let’s have it done in the open. Secrecy is fine in national security, but it has no place in appropriations. If the Congresscritters are doing us such good service, we ought to know all about it.
I agree, but these projects seemed alot more reasonable in costs there were a bunch of communities being helped at 200,000 to 400,000 a pop and this is the type of Federal Spending that most directly aids the American People.
Getting them to stop spending billions on aircraft carriers that havent sunk a warship since Leyte Gulf in 44 might be a start and tanks that require 16 maintenance personnel each as well as 40 million in ammo may be another start
(I.m not saying not to have any, just we have 10 at sea 9 in mothballs, 2 more being funded why do we need more carriers when the rest of the world has 2 (France and Russia)
Quite sending social security checks to those who never paid in the system could save a bit as well.
Blowback
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Great vent Mary Katherine! Earmarks are a problem that transcends partisan boundaries, and one that all of us should pay more attention to.
dalewalt on August 22, 2006 at 10:39 AM
Another excellent Vent.
And, I did catch the subtle head-toss of the hair a little over half-way through.
Thanks.
;)
Lawrence on August 22, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Excellent vent but I doubt that anything will change. We want our pork and we want it now. Never mind how useless it is, as long as our congresscritters spend money on stuff for us, we like it. We may fuss at how congresscritters from other states spend money, but our own are doing just fine thank you very much.
Ellen on August 22, 2006 at 10:54 AM
Ham on pork….yum-o!
Kid from Brooklyn on August 22, 2006 at 11:10 AM
We are the ones getting “porked.”
speed647 on August 22, 2006 at 11:12 AM
I like that you’re a Southern gal. Although I’m still upset that your alma mater stole my alma mater’s favorite football coach away (Mark Richt). Go Noles!
realVerse on August 22, 2006 at 11:42 AM
I counted three subtle head tosses in that Vent; but I still got the Porkbusters message because she didn’t casually run her fingers through her hair.
Thanks for not driving me to distraction!
Great job on the Vent, Mary Katherine!
Carvin Guitar Man on August 22, 2006 at 11:52 AM
Hey, realVerse. Is that Bethany, I presume? Someone said yesterday I sounded like a Yankee. ha ha. My accent– it’s kind of a small one– tends to disappear when I get nervous. An FSU girl, huh? Thank goodness you’re not a Gator, hee. And, thank you, thank you, thank you for Mark Richt. We dig him.
marykatharine on August 22, 2006 at 12:03 PM
Glad you took off that backwards hat.
rightside on August 22, 2006 at 12:06 PM
Nice job, Mary Katharine! Informative, yet down-homey and conversational.
I hereby lobby to have a permanent MKH presence of some kind on this here site.
World B. Free on August 22, 2006 at 12:24 PM
MKH, Sorry to disappoint but it’s the other half of realVerse. I know everybody loves Bethany, that’s why she’s the one on camera. Check your email.
realVerse on August 22, 2006 at 12:29 PM
We have reached the point where a lot of the people are voting for politicians who, rather than doing what is right for God and Country, can simply bring home the bacon. Then you have the liberal voter who either votes out of pure hatred for conservatives and God, or whacko environmental/homosexual/feminist/bleading heart for illegals and criminals/whatever else social issue they happen to be a toadie to. Add those all up and you have precious few who actually seem to give a crap about the United States of America itself anymore.
NRA4Freedom on August 22, 2006 at 12:55 PM
Darn, I was hoping that I’d be the first one to comment on the ‘Ham on Pork’ thing….
Still a great Vent though!
webproze on August 22, 2006 at 1:07 PM
Great Vent marykatharine,
Keep up the good hunting..
alyce on August 22, 2006 at 1:55 PM
Well, hey there, other half of realVerse. I wasn’t sure. Glad to meet you. Can’t wait to see your Vents!
marykatharine on August 22, 2006 at 2:00 PM
Excellent Vent MaryKatharine!
Thanks for the links to PorkB and Examine, well worth reading!
Aloha!
Kini on August 22, 2006 at 2:10 PM
OK, this is REALLY going to piss a lot of you off, but here it goes. I’m just stating the obvious here: Your pork is my necessity. Who is REALLY to say what is important or not important? The representatives who fight for federal dollars for their districts are doing it for their district. isn’t that what we elect them to do?
That being said, I completely understand the absurdity behind such projects as the ‘bridge to nowhere’ etc. And, I totally agree that something should be done. Maybe if our Prez would just start vetoing some of this crap…i live in a dream world…
pullingmyhairout on August 22, 2006 at 2:13 PM
But pullingmyhairout, the function of the gov’t shouldn’t be to take our money and use for anything they want. I’d wager most pork is spent for the sole purpose of providing the congresscritter to be able to say to their constituents “I brought $XX million into your district”, thereby giving them a reason to say “Vote to keep me in”. Sure, the “bridge to nowhere” is absurd, but so is the Charles Rangel Center for Public Service. (And I’d venture to say the bridge to nowhere ISN’T absurd to the few people in Alaska who’ll benefit from it>
Congress should NOT use our money for paying for public service centers, nor giving to farmers so they don’t grow crops, or to ’starving artists’ so they can create the next pi** Christ.
dalewalt on August 22, 2006 at 2:42 PM
I dont mind some sharing but the problem comes when everything is deemed to be a necessity!
“Ham on Pork” sheeeeeesh Kid! *lol*
The Pres wont issue a in a pig’s ear(mark)!
labwrs on August 22, 2006 at 3:49 PM
It always is - good job, Marykatherine!
Rick on August 22, 2006 at 4:15 PM
Ham on Schweinerei!
Entelechy on August 22, 2006 at 4:25 PM
/em>html again…
Entelechy on August 22, 2006 at 4:26 PM
(mock outrage) Get your mind out of the gutter!
Kid from Brooklyn on August 22, 2006 at 4:39 PM
KID,
I didnt mean that…I meant what a goofy albeit amusing pun of sorts Yankeestyle :)
Hi Entelechy..dontcha hate when that happens? *g*
labwrs on August 22, 2006 at 5:27 PM
Yup. In 5 words or less. This pretty much sums up the problem.
Lawrence on August 22, 2006 at 6:18 PM
ok, who forgot to turn off the emphasis switch?
Kid from Brooklyn on August 22, 2006 at 6:21 PM
Hope this works…
Kid from Brooklyn on August 22, 2006 at 6:22 PM
labwrs, especially when it can’t be fixed…
Basic HTML commands
Entelechy on August 22, 2006 at 6:48 PM
Learned something today :)
Entelechy on August 22, 2006 at 6:48 PM
Line item veto. Why not?
NTWR on August 22, 2006 at 7:00 PM
Great vent MKH.
Fellow posters, I don’t think the issue is the pork itself. The issue is that this is done out of the public eye. If these “earmarks” were openly discussed and debated at least us common folk who be allowed to chime-in on and hopefully put a stop to the truly outrageous items.
-FatOldGuy
Fogpig on August 22, 2006 at 7:35 PM
A Republican administration that is not fiscally responsible is no different than a Democratic one. Republicans have been at the trough as much as Democrats, and they will keep swilling as long as they can get away with it. Want to stop or at least dratically cut down on ‘earmarks’? Term limits, term limits, term limits. Forfeiture of government pension for the worst ’silk purse with matching shoes out of a pig’s earmarks’
offenders.
Doug on August 22, 2006 at 7:40 PM
NTWR: Line item veto does no good if President Bush never uses it. I’m a conservative-I hate seeing the government spend like there’s no tomorrow.
Doug on August 22, 2006 at 7:42 PM
Doug,
“A Republican administration that is not fiscally responsible is no different than a Democratic one.”
Yes, they are still VERY different. The republican one is far less likely to believe that killing babies in the womb is some sort of “right” hidden in the Constitution that only they can find, far less likely to believe that the first amendment applies to everything from internet pornography to terrorists privacy during phone conversations while believing at the same time that THEY need to totally regulate or ignore the second, far less likely to believe that the REAL threat to the United States is Christianity while capitulating to Islamic terrorists, far less likely to believe that brainwashing young minds by teaching them that evolution theory is not only a “fact” but actually is “real science”, far less likely to put judges on the bench who subscribe to the goofy notions that heinous criminals just need to be rehabilitated and that homosexuals pedophiles are just practicing some other “valid” lifestyle that we need to accept, far less likely to think that Freedom and Liberty is just something that others will “give” you for free if you are nice enough to them, far less likely to believe that stealing other peoples money in higher taxes “stimulates” our economy, far less likely to embrace anti democratic governments or hostile dictatorships as “valid” Nations that the United States and the rest of the free world need understand and aid, far less likely to vote for something before they vote against it, far less likely to waste taxpayers money on attempting to make environmental changes that mankind cannot even begin to control, far less likely to use race as a bait, far less likely to sell their own Country out and become seditious traitors, and on and on and on and on.
NRA4Freedom on August 22, 2006 at 8:49 PM
NRA4Freedom
Amen,
I’ll chose the let’s roll crowd over the let’s surrender crowd
Also, Pork busting is fine but in the case of two states I looked at, there were grants to charitable medical organizations for xray equipment, medicine, not services or monuments to politicians also Oklahoma’s grant was almost as much as Rangels Grant to himself. (Oklahoma’s was 100% for medical equipment and records storage not useless crap)
Now the point could be that everyone should pay their own medical expenses - thats another argument but this is not checks to displaced people and welfare receipients working cash jobs off the books either.
EricPWJohnson on August 23, 2006 at 12:34 AM
Well Mary Katherine, I said you inspired me to do my first video blog and I did! HotAir is mentioned, of course. Though I meant to mention Townhall too and forgot! Forgive me.
Check me out!
Rightwingsparkle on August 23, 2006 at 12:49 AM
Indeed, a lot of the projects might be necessary and/or desirable. The problem is the that vast majority are local in scope! Therefore, they should draw from local and/or private money. We have got to get federal spending back to things of national interest.
Mike O on August 23, 2006 at 1:13 AM
Sure. But let’s have it done in the open. Secrecy is fine in national security, but it has no place in appropriations. If the Congresscritters are doing us such good service, we ought to know all about it.
Pablo on August 23, 2006 at 5:59 AM
Mike O,
I agree, but these projects seemed alot more reasonable in costs there were a bunch of communities being helped at 200,000 to 400,000 a pop and this is the type of Federal Spending that most directly aids the American People.
Getting them to stop spending billions on aircraft carriers that havent sunk a warship since Leyte Gulf in 44 might be a start and tanks that require 16 maintenance personnel each as well as 40 million in ammo may be another start
(I.m not saying not to have any, just we have 10 at sea 9 in mothballs, 2 more being funded why do we need more carriers when the rest of the world has 2 (France and Russia)
Quite sending social security checks to those who never paid in the system could save a bit as well.
EricPWJohnson on August 23, 2006 at 7:09 AM