Comments on: “Deranged”: Sullivan skeptical of terror plot, questions the timing http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:38:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Sullivan accuses Michelle of “dark insinuations” about 9/11 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-418174 Hot Air » Blog Archive » Sullivan accuses Michelle of “dark insinuations” about 9/11 Wed, 23 May 2007 21:23:34 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-418174 [...] I stopped reading him regularly after that so there must be countless more “dark” pearls of wisdom he’s dispensed since then, every last one of which will naturally be Bush’s fault for having shaken Sully’s faith in government so deeply that insane, inane conspiracy theories are now presented as credible “alternative explanations” on the websites of Time magazine and the Atlantic. As I said at the time: There’s literally no degree of conspiratorial craziness that Sullivan will not excuse — or indulge in himself — so long as it’s presented in terms of skepticism towards Bush. Ace accuses him of engaging in de facto 9/11 Trutherism, which sounds unfair until you realize how well it fits the pattern. If you really pressed him, I’m sure Sully would dismiss Dylan Avery as a kook — while also noting, with exquisite sadness, that he can understand how people would think Bush capable of such a thing. [...] [...] I stopped reading him regularly after that so there must be countless more “dark” pearls of wisdom he’s dispensed since then, every last one of which will naturally be Bush’s fault for having shaken Sully’s faith in government so deeply that insane, inane conspiracy theories are now presented as credible “alternative explanations” on the websites of Time magazine and the Atlantic. As I said at the time: There’s literally no degree of conspiratorial craziness that Sullivan will not excuse — or indulge in himself — so long as it’s presented in terms of skepticism towards Bush. Ace accuses him of engaging in de facto 9/11 Trutherism, which sounds unfair until you realize how well it fits the pattern. If you really pressed him, I’m sure Sully would dismiss Dylan Avery as a kook — while also noting, with exquisite sadness, that he can understand how people would think Bush capable of such a thing. [...]

]]> By: Rustyw http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39301 Rustyw Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:45:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39301 Sully was a conservative cross dresser. He fooled a lot of us. Then he came out of the closet. No more cross dressing, just leftist rhetoric. Sully was a conservative cross dresser. He fooled a lot of us. Then he came out of the closet. No more cross dressing, just leftist rhetoric.

]]> By: Entelechy http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39135 Entelechy Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:34:47 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39135 To get back some of his former mind, and for a reality check, Mr. Sullivan might need to visit <a href="http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=123&art_id=qw1155747244653B232" rel="nofollow">Saudi Arabia </a>for a while. To get back some of his former mind, and for a reality check, Mr. Sullivan might need to visit Saudi Arabia for a while.

]]> By: Entelechy http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39127 Entelechy Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:00:44 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39127 <em>Sexual matter over mind</em> - it's those boys in the tobacco shops some referred to in the "Hate Couture" thread, toward the end. Could also be Mr. Sullivan's sympathy factor with the islamist male... Sexual matter over mind – it’s those boys in the tobacco shops some referred to in the “Hate Couture” thread, toward the end. Could also be Mr. Sullivan’s sympathy factor with the islamist male…

]]> By: RD http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39081 RD Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:01:06 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39081 <blockquote>If coercion or outright torture are sometimes useful, they have to retreat from that childish position and answer the more adult question, “How many innocent lives will you sacrifice to spare a terrorist pain and discomfort?”</blockquote> FWIW I strongly agree, but how do you personally respond to someone who throws out John McCain as a counterargument? "John McCain says torture doesn't accomplish anything, and he would know... are you calling John McCain a child??" And so on.

If coercion or outright torture are sometimes useful, they have to retreat from that childish position and answer the more adult question, “How many innocent lives will you sacrifice to spare a terrorist pain and discomfort?”

FWIW I strongly agree, but how do you personally respond to someone who throws out John McCain as a counterargument? “John McCain says torture doesn’t accomplish anything, and he would know… are you calling John McCain a child??” And so on.

]]> By: Bellicose Muse http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39077 Bellicose Muse Thu, 17 Aug 2006 01:40:49 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39077 Sullivan called gay marriage "the civil rights issue of our times", if memory serves me. And he gobsmackingly protests any kind of torture against Islamic terrorists. The irony here is that Islamic terrorists would, if they had the chance, torture and ultimately behead Big Gay Andrew (who would alter "I'm super, thanks for asking!" to "I'm extremely morose, thanks for asking!") if they had a chance. Sully should take his civil rights crusade to a Shiite-dominated nation/region and compare it to life under Jorge Bush. Sullivan called gay marriage “the civil rights issue of our times”, if memory serves me. And he gobsmackingly protests any kind of torture against Islamic terrorists. The irony here is that Islamic terrorists would, if they had the chance, torture and ultimately behead Big Gay Andrew (who would alter “I’m super, thanks for asking!” to “I’m extremely morose, thanks for asking!”) if they had a chance.

Sully should take his civil rights crusade to a Shiite-dominated nation/region and compare it to life under Jorge Bush.

]]> By: Niko http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39034 Niko Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:08:18 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39034 Time for some timeless wisdom from Allah's ole blog: In reporting on another kidnapped victim having been decapitated by terrorists in Iraq, Allah decided to plug a special version of the report so that Sullivan takes notice, (I paraphrase,) "Gay Marriage between Head and Body ends tragically" 3 years later it's still pitch-perfect. Time for some timeless wisdom from Allah’s ole blog: In reporting on another kidnapped victim having been decapitated by terrorists in Iraq, Allah decided to plug a special version of the report so that Sullivan takes notice, (I paraphrase,)

“Gay Marriage between Head and Body ends tragically”

3 years later it’s still pitch-perfect.

]]> By: Spurius Ligustinus http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39016 Spurius Ligustinus Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:19:01 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39016 There was a time - not long after 9/11 - when I regularly read Sullivan's blog because it seemed that unlike the vast majority of libs out there, he "got it." And then that meanie George Bush came out against the idea of Sullivan marrying his boyfriend, and suddenly he became one-note Andy: his entire universe orbiting around his genitals. At least he seems to be expanding his horizons a bit lately, enough to give his fixation with homosexual "marriage" a rest long enough to indulge in some deranged BushCo/Rovian conspirzoid dementia. There was a time – not long after 9/11 – when I regularly read Sullivan’s blog because it seemed that unlike the vast majority of libs out there, he “got it.”

And then that meanie George Bush came out against the idea of Sullivan marrying his boyfriend, and suddenly he became one-note Andy: his entire universe orbiting around his genitals.

At least he seems to be expanding his horizons a bit lately, enough to give his fixation with homosexual “marriage” a rest long enough to indulge in some deranged BushCo/Rovian conspirzoid dementia.

]]> By: hindmost http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39007 hindmost Wed, 16 Aug 2006 22:04:43 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39007 There are brief glimpses of light at DU? I must have missed that thread. There are brief glimpses of light at DU? I must have missed that thread.

]]> By: frankj http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-39005 frankj Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:59:41 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-39005 I really can't remember the last time I've seen anyone - left or right - link to him in a postive way. I only keep reading him for the same reason I read DU: entertainment and for those brief glimpses of light shining through the murky darkness. I really can’t remember the last time I’ve seen anyone – left or right – link to him in a postive way. I only keep reading him for the same reason I read DU: entertainment and for those brief glimpses of light shining through the murky darkness.

]]> By: bdfaith http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38981 bdfaith Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:23:52 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38981 Excerpted and linked at <a href="http://www.oldwardogs.us/2006/08/in_which_andrew.html" rel="nofollow">Old War Dogs >> In which Andrew Sullivan goes completely over the edge (again)</a> Excerpted and linked at Old War Dogs >> In which Andrew Sullivan goes completely over the edge (again)

]]> By: Karol http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38980 Karol Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:22:12 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38980 <em>He also called Karol “deranged,” which, in fairness, is entirely accurate. </em> Hahaha. :-) He also called Karol “deranged,” which, in fairness, is entirely accurate.

Hahaha. :-)

]]> By: Old War Dogs http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38979 Old War Dogs Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:21:40 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38979 <strong>In which Andrew Sullivan goes completely over the edge (again)...</strong> Andrew Sullivan Questions The TimingAce of Spades I just asked, in the post below, if Andrew Sullivan would call the UK a rogue nation because they're holding the SkyBomb terorists in custody without charges. Turns out, he already pretty much... In which Andrew Sullivan goes completely over the edge (again)…

Andrew Sullivan Questions The TimingAce of Spades I just asked, in the post below, if Andrew Sullivan would call the UK a rogue nation because they’re holding the SkyBomb terorists in custody without charges. Turns out, he already pretty much…

]]> By: kaltes http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38972 kaltes Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:02:17 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38972 Ahh I remember back in the day when Allah predicted that Sullivan would endorse Kerry and, wouldn't you know it, that's exactly what Sullivan did. It is very much in fashion, and has been for some time, to bash Bush. In major urban areas, it is almost one of those things "everyone can agree on". There are some conservative criticisms of Bush, and we see these from Mrs. Malkin, most of which I agree with (immigration) and a few which I don't (dubai). That said, I see a lot of conservatives bash Bush simply because they appear to think it makes them appear more moderate, and more 'reasonable'. I think O'Reilly falls into that category, among others. Of course that is the same variety of spinelessness that resulted in senate republicans being divided on the house immigration bill. Ahh I remember back in the day when Allah predicted that Sullivan would endorse Kerry and, wouldn’t you know it, that’s exactly what Sullivan did.

It is very much in fashion, and has been for some time, to bash Bush. In major urban areas, it is almost one of those things “everyone can agree on”. There are some conservative criticisms of Bush, and we see these from Mrs. Malkin, most of which I agree with (immigration) and a few which I don’t (dubai). That said, I see a lot of conservatives bash Bush simply because they appear to think it makes them appear more moderate, and more ‘reasonable’. I think O’Reilly falls into that category, among others. Of course that is the same variety of spinelessness that resulted in senate republicans being divided on the house immigration bill.

]]> By: ar_basin http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38964 ar_basin Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:42:52 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38964 NTWR, that was amazing. <strong>To the pacifist liberal: Two airports... One with no security measures - none. And one with excessive security measures. Which do you choose?</strong> NTWR, that was amazing.

To the pacifist liberal:

Two airports… One with no security measures – none. And one with excessive security measures.

Which do you choose?

]]> By: thirteen28 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38963 thirteen28 Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:42:34 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38963 "Deranged" and "Sullivan" in same headline = Redundant “Deranged” and “Sullivan” in same headline = Redundant

]]> By: Cary http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38962 Cary Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:41:46 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38962 The more I find out about Ms. Sullivan; the more I dislike him. The more I find out about Ms. Sullivan; the more I dislike him.

]]> By: NTWR http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/comment-page-1/#comment-38959 NTWR Wed, 16 Aug 2006 20:34:13 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/16/deranged-sullivan-skeptical-of-terror-plot-questions-the-timing/#comment-38959 These appeasers are getting so tiresome. Perhaps there should be two terminals at airports-one for those ordinary people who believe the terrorists when they say they want global jihad against all infidels, and one without any security measures, for those who believe this is all "Rovian" conspiracy meant to keep the "Bush regime" in power. And send the Hezbo supporters to Lebanon. Seeing them protest in SF and LA is too sickening. These appeasers are getting so tiresome. Perhaps there should be two terminals at airports-one for those ordinary people who believe the terrorists when they say they want global jihad against all infidels, and one without any security measures, for those who believe this is all “Rovian” conspiracy meant to keep the “Bush regime” in power.

And send the Hezbo supporters to Lebanon. Seeing them protest in SF and LA is too sickening.

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