Video: Bush on America’s war with “Islamic fascism” (Update: CAIR shrieks) (Bumped)
posted at 3:44 pm on August 10, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Posted by special request of the boss, who’s getting e-mails from readers complaining that Bush’s speech was “lame.” As I told her: it’s Bush.
Not a total loss, though.
Here’s something to wash it down. Most of you have seen it before, but some might not have. I wonder, how many of the suspects know who this guy is? Or know him personally?
Update: Re: the second video, the Counterterrorism Blog offers its greatest hits on Britain’s homegrown jihad.
Update: Clockwork:
U.S. Muslim groups criticized President George W. Bush on Thursday for calling a foiled plot to blow up airplanes part of a “war with Islamic fascists,” saying the term could inflame anti-Muslim tensions…
“We believe this is an ill-advised term and we believe that it is counter-productive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism,” said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations advocacy group.
“We ought to take advantage of these incidents to make sure that we do not start a religious war against Islam and Muslims,” he told a news conference in Washington.
“We urge him (Bush) and we urge other public officials to restrain themselves.”
Do a word search at Anti-CAIR on “Nihad Awad.” See for yourself what he means by “restraint.”
Question to the audience: Does Bush wait until tomorrow to apologize or does he do it tonight?
And does he do it from the White House, or from a mosque?
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Hey, according to the DUmmies at the Democrat Underground, Bush (along with Karl Rove and Tony Blair) is to blame for the terror plot. I kid you not.
DUmmies Blame THEIR Usual Suspects In UK Plane Terror Plot
pjcomix on August 10, 2006 at 1:16 PM
HOLY SH*T!!!!
HOLY SH*T!!!! HOLY SH*T!!!! HOLY SH*T!!!! HOLY SH*T!!!! HOLY SH*T!!!! HOLY SH*T!!!!
HE SAID IT!!!
HE SAID IT!!! HE SAID IT!!! HE SAID IT!!! HE SAID IT!!! HE SAID IT!!! HE SAID IT!!!
HE SAID ISLAMIC FASCISTS!!!!!!
It is a GOOD Day!!!
venmax on August 10, 2006 at 1:19 PM
I wish President Bush would stop referring to them as “facists.” If they were actually “facists” then the left-wingers would not be so supportive of Hezbollah, the Palestianians, the Iranians, etc. and vice-versa. Their ideology (and slick public relations) are more similar to Stalinism than to leaders like Pinochet and Franco that leftists love to label “facist.”
januarius on August 10, 2006 at 1:22 PM
Al-reuters has to put Islamic Fascists in quotes?
The Machine on August 10, 2006 at 1:22 PM
Er, that’s “fascist.” But I’m with you.
Michelle on August 10, 2006 at 1:34 PM
Michelle- Sorry! I need a spell check.
januarius on August 10, 2006 at 1:36 PM
Yes. Because, you may want to sit down for this, it’s a quote from someone they are, uh, quoting.
honora on August 10, 2006 at 1:36 PM
It’s about time Bush called a spade, “a spade.”
If there’s one good thing the current Israeli/Hezbollah theater brought to light thus far, it’s that more people (including some lefties) are calling this a “World War” and are using more realistic terms, like “Islamic Fascist” and “Muslim Extremist” rather than the veiled PC crap-terms like “freedom fighters”. Even ambiguous terms like “terrorist” aren’t good enough for me…call em what they are…ISLAMIC…EXTREMIST…FASCIST…WHACKJOB…MURDERERS.
BirdEye on August 10, 2006 at 1:47 PM
Sadly, the leftist will blame Bush & America first because if we were just nice to these people they would like us and leave us alone.
Catie96706 on August 10, 2006 at 1:55 PM
I grinned at that, as well. It was funny… I thought no way… I would have said Islamic Radicals or Terrorists…
It’s not Lame.
I think he had to give a bland speech. We are in the first 48 hours.
ar_basin on August 10, 2006 at 2:00 PM
Is Michelle… MM? or just another Michelle…
Thought I’d ask.
ar_basin on August 10, 2006 at 2:02 PM
Allahpundit:
Don’t you dare question his patriotism!
EFG on August 10, 2006 at 2:06 PM
In all seriousness, I wonder if someone like Mubin Shaikh had anything to do with busting this plot open.
I hope so. I wish it were so. But like the old saying goes, “You can wish in one hand, and sh*t in the other. You tell me which one fills up first.”
Here’s hoping that Allahpundit can bring us some good news that there were Muslims who knew about this plot and helped to stop it.
EFG on August 10, 2006 at 2:22 PM
It’s a start.
Granted, the more time goes on and the more I see, the more I am convinced that “islamic fascism” is redundant, as I think the number of truly moderate muslims can usually be counted on one’s fingers (assuming muslims haven’t already chopped them off for some perceived offense).
thirteen28 on August 10, 2006 at 3:11 PM
EFG, from readings on this site, apparently Pakistani officials allerted the British about the plot.
Entelechy on August 10, 2006 at 3:18 PM
Yeah, I read that. I was hoping to hear something more along the lines of some Muslim citizen/civillian heard about this and decided that this was wrong, and of their own accord decided to alert the authorities.
Pakistani officials doing the same is cool, but not really indicative of a growing repudiation of terror coming from Muslim society, which is what I was hoping for.
EFG on August 10, 2006 at 3:37 PM
We’re not equating Islam with facism, but Awad’s fellow Muslim’s are when the act in the name of Islam. Tell the terrorist to stop attributing their acts to Allah and the world will stop doing the same.
BrunoMitchell on August 10, 2006 at 4:01 PM
januarius,
Fascism is a leftest policy;
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_06_19-2005_06_25.shtml#1119376430
VC reader Steven Hamori thinks that Leiter (like many contemporary commentators and perhaps the editors of the American Heritage Dictionary as well) is confused about the definition of fascism, and misinterprets the oft-repeated Mussolini/Gentile quote that “Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” Hamori writes
[The quote] has circulated in the left wing blogshere for as long as I can recall… I believe it to be a real one too although some credit it to Giovanni Gentile (Mussolini allegedly took credit for it while not originally uttering it).
[According to Wikipedia:]“Gentile, described both by himself and Mussolini as ‘the philosopher of Fascism’, was the ghostwriter of ‘A Doctrine of Fascism’ which, signed by Benito Mussolini, described Fascism in the Italian Encyclopedia (which was edited by Gentile).”
The problem is that a ‘corporate’ in Italian of the period is not a business organization. A corporate is a production planning board made up of workers, owners, and others involved in production advocated by the syndicalist school of socialism. Their beloved quote is actually Mussolini (or maybe Gentile) making a connection between fascism and socialism . . .
[Again, Wikipedia]“Historically, corporatism or corporative (Italian corporativismo) is a political system in which legislative power is given to corporations that represent economic, industrial and professional groups.”
“Under Fascism in Italy, business owners, employees, trades-people, professionals, and other economic classes were organized into 22 guilds, or associations, known as “corporations” according to their industries, and these groups were given representation in a legislative body known as the Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni.”
Hamori concludes:
I doubt Leiter knows anything about the history of fascism. Intellectually, the progressive left has a lot more in common with it than the ‘libertarian right’ (the real liberals). . . . If anyone advocates a merging of ‘business corporate’ and state it is the regulation happy / anti competition left. The average ‘right winger’ says let an uncompetitive business fail.
Rustyw on August 10, 2006 at 4:01 PM
januarius,
Intellectually, the progressive left has a lot more in common with Fascism than the ‘libertarian right’ facism is a leftest organization, not the corperation/goverment coop that
http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2005_06_19-2005_06_25.shtml#1119376430
Rustyw on August 10, 2006 at 4:04 PM
And if you look at Islamic governance througout history, its fascist elements jump right out at you. No wonder the lefties like the jihadis so much.
Iblis on August 10, 2006 at 4:12 PM
Uhhhh…hmmmmm…didn’t they already turn this into a religious war against “infidels”?
CAIR is the propaganda arm of Islamic Jihad…so I don’t really CAIR what they say.
BirdEye on August 10, 2006 at 4:20 PM
Yeah I like threats that go, “don’t call me and mine fascists or you’ll regret it.”
Is he that dumb or does he think we are?
Iblis – yes and the permanent victim status is another commonality between the Islamic Fascists and the Leftists.
Oh and the way they demand respect and give none to those who don’t agree with them.
Any other common threads?
w3bgrrl on August 10, 2006 at 4:20 PM
CUCK FAIR!!
Throw ‘em in a mental institution, if they think we haven’t already inflamed the Muslim fascists just by existing.
I am sick and tired of our capitulating. This is war, a holy war, and it started 30 years ago, not when Bush was ELECTED.
If you were to put fascism and marxism on opposite ends of a line, with all the other “isms” in between, and then connect the two ends of the line, like a circle, fascism and marxism are right next to eachother. I maintain that the two are more similar than different, and the loony left has sided with the modern day Hitler.
Whether you agree we should fight or not, they are obviously going to fight us. The choice is simple, just like in WWII. Go get your burqas, libs.
NTWR on August 10, 2006 at 4:26 PM
Prediction: Bush apology by 52-48.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on August 10, 2006 at 4:27 PM
Because every time Bush has gone to war with the Islamofascists, they have suffered defeat. CAIR urging restraint is like Hezbollah urging a cease fire. All it means is that you have hit them where it hurts and they need time to rearm and carry out their next attack. The west rarely gets beat we just cease continue kicking butt.
LakeRuins on August 10, 2006 at 4:27 PM
Inflame away, President Bush. It’s long past time that the war on terrorism get’s a more accurate name. The war on Islamic fundamentalism. Or the jihad on jihad.
I’m issuing a fatwah. Or something.
Kevin M on August 10, 2006 at 4:29 PM
I’m issuing a havanagillah in joy that Bush called it
anyone wanna join me? :-D
Defector01 on August 10, 2006 at 4:37 PM
Nice Anti-Cair link Allah!
Rustyw on August 10, 2006 at 4:45 PM
I’ll join you in that, Defector01.
EFG on August 10, 2006 at 4:46 PM
I’m with Scrappleface on this one…why do Islamic Fascists hate Airplanes?
Thank you Mr. President for calling it like it is. Islamic Fascists were behind this, not “disgruntled british youths out to cause some mayhem and mass distruction because society has alienated them because of their beliefs and skin color”, which, you know someone asshat is going to write (or has probably already written by now) on some liberal website or newspaper….
If you check out Mac Daily News, the article which mentioned iPods being banned has spawned another war of words between the Left Mac users and Right Mac users, as usual. Bush bashing galore…sometimes I get too depressed to read the comments..
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/10505/
DakRoland on August 10, 2006 at 4:47 PM
Argh, my last post disappeared.
As I tried to post before, I’m with Scrappleface on this one. Why do Islamic Fascists hate airplanes so much?
Seriously, I am so proud of President Bush for calling it what it is. Unfortunately, you know some nut somewhere will write (or has by now) that this wasn’t caused by Islamic Extremists, but rather just a group of disenfranchised British youths out to do something a little more exciting that tipping a cow. *sigh*
Sadly, on a Mac website I frequent, an article that stated the banning of iPods has ignited a war of words between Left Mac users and Right Mac users.
Mac Daily News
DakRoland on August 10, 2006 at 4:53 PM
oops, sorry about the double post.
DakRoland on August 10, 2006 at 4:57 PM
RustyW-
Just got off work, so I can respond now. Fascism and Leftism are basically the same, I agree. Hitler’s regime and Stalin’s regime were both anti-religion, anti-freedom, anti-free market, etc. Hitler referred to his party as the National Socialists. The Japanese before WWII had a very controlled economy with no freedoms.
However, I wish Bush would refer to these terrorists and their sponsoring regimes as “Islamic Stalinists” or “Islamic socialists” because it would put their biggest backers–Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, China, North Korea on the defensive. It would also stress that they have a lot in common with each other. After all, there are no real “fascist” regimes right now in the vein of Pinochet and Franco. Leftists also love to call Bush “fascist,” confusing the issue.
januarius on August 10, 2006 at 5:06 PM
Because, after all, it is only fair if islam and muslims wage their own religious war against us without retaliation.
Restrain this, Ibraham.
thirteen28 on August 10, 2006 at 5:08 PM
januarius,
I got ya. Didn’t before.
Rustyw on August 10, 2006 at 5:28 PM
Actually, there was some talking head on Sky News (via FOX) late last night as this was unfolding that said just that.
He said that if Blair didn’t side with Bush, there would be no terror in Britain, and that if Bush would pull out of Iraq, there would be no terror at all. (I’m paraphrasing, not an exact quote, but that was the jist of it.)
Not sure if the guy was a Sky News commentator or a Gov’t official, but he was one or the other; definitely not a ‘man in the street’ interview
LegendHasIt on August 10, 2006 at 5:28 PM
Suck it, Ibrahim!
BirdEye on August 10, 2006 at 5:40 PM
I thought he sounded normal. What else can be said at this point? I did think the “government of Tony Blair” was odd but that is vintage Bush.
I cant remember exactly but saw him making a speech earlier this year and I am sure he used “Islamic Fascists” in it. So this isnt the first time for the IF description and hopefully it wont be the last or sparingly used.
It needs to be said and said and said repeatedly because it is TRUE!
labwrs on August 10, 2006 at 5:45 PM
“hijacked religion”, “religion of peace”, or “islamo-fascists”…..B.S….It IS the whole of the religion of Islam and Jihad. Either the “supposed” moderate Islamics begin re-educating their people and expunging hate from the Koran or we will be at war for a century.
gary on August 10, 2006 at 6:07 PM
Bush is the only head of state to use the term “Islamofascist” and it is about time.
Welcome to World War III. It is five years
since 9/11 and we should recognize the struggle
that we are facing from fascism against the free world.
RobCon on August 10, 2006 at 7:46 PM
Fascism, Totalitarianism, Stalinism, whatever. The semantics are secondary to the truth that Islamic Jihadists, who are nothing less than bloodthirsty 7th century barbarians, are waging ‘holy’ war against Judeo-Christian civilization. Kudos to Bush for calling a spade a spade, but the correct term is Jihad, which predates Fascism by centuries.
speed647 on August 10, 2006 at 9:30 PM
Oh, and I almost forgot:
CAIR can kiss my Christian American ass.
speed647 on August 10, 2006 at 9:33 PM
They can kiss my atheist butt too. I’m beginnning to agree with Gary’s post,
The fact that people like CAIR care more about what might be considered inflamatory statements than fixing their own damned zealots leads me to believe they might be complicit. Fix your religion fast, Islam! We will do it if forced, but our hand is often very heavy. The size of the smackdown necessary grows larger each day you don’t reign your crazies in.
Kevin M on August 11, 2006 at 5:59 AM
WE have to set new rules in America. If your ‘religion’ is the form of government in another nation, you therefore do not enjoy freedom of religion here. Because, your religion is a government. Thus Islam, should be outlawed in America. All muslim chaplins expelled from the military, no freedom of religion to a form of government.
LZVandy on August 11, 2006 at 6:46 AM
LZVandy-exactly.
There can be no freedom of religion when a religion’s religious beliefs are that to practice the religion, you must slaughter all those not of the same religion.
Muslims should be out in the streets, handing over radicals and freaking out over the hijacking of their religion, if it truly has been hijacked.
NTWR on August 11, 2006 at 2:20 PM
CAIR – shove it
Allah Fubar
byteshredder on August 11, 2006 at 4:18 PM
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