Gibson doesn’t need the blessing of movie studios… he’s not looking for a paycheck. He’s now at the point where he can finance his own movies, own them, produce them, shoot them cheaply, and then just hand a finished product to someone for distribution. It’s free money to the distributor… they’d be silly to say “no.” As you’ll note, the distributor for Apocalypto has already forgiven him.

Now, for people who were as shocked as I was by this report, what do you think about the possibility about it not being something he believes, but something that existed deep inside him from his childhood? His father is obviously antisemitic (he’s a holocaust denier). Could it just be that he was so immersed in that hateful line of thinking that even though he doesn’t believe it, it is lying in his subconscious, waiting for a few beers to unlock it?

All right … I’ll bite:

This is not close to a reprehensible action, racism and other labels being bandied about.

Really?

Let’s recap (I’m channeling Greenjeans again). Here’s Mel’s non-racist, non-reprehensible behavior:

Once inside the car, a source directly connected with the case says Gibson began banging himself against the seat. The report says Gibson told the deputy, “You mother f****r. I’m going to f*** you.” The report also says “Gibson almost continually [sic] threatened me saying he ‘owns Malibu’ and will spend all of his money to ‘get even’ with me.”

We’re told Gibson took two blood alcohol tests, which were videotaped, and continued saying how “f****d” he was and how he was going to “f***” Deputy Mee.

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Okay … so out of idle late afternoon curiosity, if the above is – to quote you – “not close” to being either reprehensible or racist … could you give us an example of what someone might say that WOULD be racist? How about reprehensible?

Just wonderin’. Since, you know, that wasn’t even close!

I will let you have the last word.

Regards

Sgt. Lance Sugartits

Please note that I said that commenters are ‘tortured’ on this subject/site, and that includes me too. I also posted yesterday that we don’t need to condemn, nor condone, Mr. Gibson any further. I actually wish him well.

Of note, however, to your comments, simply communicating and not fighting with anyone, there are precisely the thoughts and words which eventually lead to those horrendous actions you refer to. The 9/11 terrorists didn’t wake up one morning contemplating to bomb the WTC.

Respectfully and with no malice or sarcasm,

I do not include Gibson on my list of people who have not apologized for their words: Michael Moore, Cynthia McKinney, Cindy Sheehan, Howard Dean, Ted Turner, Gore, Kerry, McCain etc al as well as national leaders in Spain, France, the Vatican, and full fledged Jew hating Hamas supporters, Hezbullah supporters, CAIR etc etc.

Who would I trust with the life of a Jewish infant – a university student supporting Hamas, or Gibson?

This is my Doctrine of Proportionality. My heart says Gibson would cherish the baby.

I don’t consider Gibson a douche bag, but he may need some high colonics to get back on track.

This is not close to a reprehensible action, racism and other labels being bandied about. You need a broader perspective, perhaps planes flying into buildings, terrorist targeting innocents would bring some clarity.

In the end we should be defined by our actions and deed, not a careless word uttered here or there, and certainly not thoughts.

I suppose for those with clarity and perspective, that need to create a mountain out of a molehill, and malign people with their view of political correctness and marginalize dissent, Enjoy.

For myself, I will endeavor to presevere!!

Anyway its a great site and better we agree on most issues, Keep up the good work!

His troubles might have just begun but this might also be the beginning of ending them. This reality check might be what he needed. He might have needed an ‘abyss’ in order to begin his ‘healing’ process. His father is a nut-case but after 18, or 21, one can’t blame parents or providence, or society, or the devil, or whatever…one has to grow up.

The commenters on this board are also tortured about the subject. Thank you to those who’re able to maintain clarity and perspective. We are, after all, not the Lefties.

Thank you especially to RN, geoergej and Professor Blather. We don’t need to condemn him further but we can’t excuse him either. And we can choose to support him morally, financially, spiritually or not at all.

It is a sad state of affairs when the MSM fills the front pages with this type of crap and the things that really affect our nation and the world are pushed to the back pages.

Of course I forgive the guy. I wish him well.

But I’ve now concluded he’s fundamentally the proverbial bag ‘o douche. Which means I no longer feel like giving him (or anyone or anything he’s associated with) any of my money.

Ain’t freedom grand?

If enough people reach my conclusion – for themselves – then Gibson will indeed be finished, as Bryan suggests.

If enough people don’t reach that conclusion – for themselves – and he remains able to pull in a hundred million with ease, nothing he does or says will touch him in Hollywood.

Whoever made the observation above that “green is the only color that matters” in Hollywood is exactly right.

He ain’t getting any more of mine.

It remains to be seen whether I’ll be in a small minority or not. Who knows? Somehow, the Dixie Chicks are still selling albums and people still pay to see Jane Fonda. Go figure.

To recap (hat-tip to Gleen Greenjeans): what a weenie Mel is.

Just in case there is someone out there who hasn’t heard the news about Mel Gibson, here is a summary:
Gibson’s Anti-Semitic Tirade — Alleged Cover Up
TMZ has learned that Mel Gibson went on a rampage when he was arrested Friday on su…

Well said.

MEL SAYS SORRY TO THE JEWS
Tue Aug 01 2006 11:10:45 ET

August 2, 2006 — There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who thinks or expresses any kind of Anti-Semitic remark. I want to apologize specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and harmful words that I said to a law enforcement officer the night I was arrested on a DUI charge.

I am a public person, and when I say something, either articulated and thought out, or blurted out in a moment of insanity, my words carry weight in the public arena. As a result, I must assume personal responsibility for my words and apologize directly to those who have been hurt and offended by those words.

The tenets of what I profess to believe necessitate that I exercise charity and tolerance as a way of life. Every human being is God’s child, and if I wish to honor my God I have to honor his children. But please know from my heart that I am not an anti-Semite. I am not a bigot. Hatred of any kind goes against my faith.

I’m not just asking for forgiveness. I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one on one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing.

I have begun an ongoing program of recovery and what I am now realizing is that I cannot do it alone. I am in the process of understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken display, and I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally offended, to help me on my journey through recovery. Again, I am reaching out to the Jewish community for its help. I know there will be many in that community who will want nothing to do with me, and that would be understandable. But I pray that that door is not forever closed.

This is not about a film. Nor is it about artistic license. This is about real life and recognizing the consequences hurtful words can have. It’s about existing in harmony in a world that seems to have gone mad.

END

1 – Gibson’s comments were reprehensible and inexcusable. Not to mention seriously stupid on his part.
2 – Drunk or not, alcoholic or not – those are not valid excuses for making such comments.
3 – Is Gibson truly anti-semetic? None of us can know for sure what goes on in his heart and mind.

4 – Gibson has apologized. That is a first step in atoning for his sins related to this matter, be they just an isolated incident of stupid comments, or the logical result of being anti-semetic.

5 – If Mel doesn’t stop with just an apology, but makes a sincere effort to atone for his sins, then he is deserving of forgiveness as anyone else would be who made similar stupid remarks.

I am also arguing that Mel let his Christian allies and supporters down, big time. Anyone here care to take an opposite point of view?

You sling charges or racism, or whatever other ism you were singing about in your excellent vent (now I presume halfhearted), almost as easily as the moonbats.

I prefer a little more substance.

I have to admit I was a big fan of Mel’s for a long time. I will never watch another Mel Gibson movie, free or otherwise.

FrankJ is right, Mel is not the only sicko in Hollywood; he is just the latest one that was caught.

This is a guy that can make $100 million dollars for any studio who wants to use him. His politics or personal views won’t matter as long as that is true.

The only color or religion recognized in Hollywood is green.

frankj, there was Roman Polanski.