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		<title>By: Greenwald: A sockpuppet and a coward at The Politburo Diktat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-30467</link>
		<dc:creator>Greenwald: A sockpuppet and a coward at The Politburo Diktat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Allah summarizes the Greenwald sock-puppet claims with Quagmire: Sock Puppet Theater III Ace has found yet another sock with button eyes and lipstick lips defending Glenn Greenwald. But there’s a twist this time–“Rick Ellensburg” made Greenwald’s arguments before Greenwald himself made them (er, in his own name). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Allah summarizes the Greenwald sock-puppet claims with Quagmire: Sock Puppet Theater III Ace has found yet another sock with button eyes and lipstick lips defending Glenn Greenwald. But there’s a twist this time–“Rick Ellensburg” made Greenwald’s arguments before Greenwald himself made them (er, in his own name). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: commissar</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-30464</link>
		<dc:creator>commissar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice summary, A.  Concise, readable, factual, and humorous. 

You know, you should be a lawyer or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice summary, A.  Concise, readable, factual, and humorous. </p>
<p>You know, you should be a lawyer or something.</p>
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		<title>By: pjcomix</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjcomix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Chairman! Point of order! I am not now nor I have ever been a Glenn Greenwald Sock Puppet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Chairman! Point of order! I am not now nor I have ever been a Glenn Greenwald Sock Puppet.</p>
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		<title>By: heldmyw</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-30042</link>
		<dc:creator>heldmyw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I think you&#039;re being terribly unfair to a nice man and a great American!

Sincerely,

Green Glenwald.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I think you&#8217;re being terribly unfair to a nice man and a great American!</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Green Glenwald.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing News</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-30007</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 06:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Glenn Greenwald&#039;s Sock Puppet-A-Looza...&lt;/strong&gt;

You cannot throw a cyber stone on the right side of the blogosphere today without hitting a post about Glenn......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Glenn Greenwald&#8217;s Sock Puppet-A-Looza&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>You cannot throw a cyber stone on the right side of the blogosphere today without hitting a post about Glenn&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: georgej</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29992</link>
		<dc:creator>georgej</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenwald typifies what liberals and Democrats have been doing for decades.

Remember when Democrats used to run on the meme &quot;Republicans are trying to kill or starve the elderly and poor kids&quot; for &lt;strong&gt;*DARING*&lt;/strong&gt; to advocate welfare reform?

Nothing has changed.  Liberals and Democrats STILL use &lt;strong&gt;&quot;The Big Lie&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; as a propaganda tool.  Greenwald is just using a blog instead of media sound-bites others use to slander Republicans and conservatives whenever and where ever they can.

As &lt;a href=&quot;http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/07/18/please-eliminate-the-word-eliminationistand-those-who-use-the-term/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rick Moran &lt;/a&gt;at put it:

&lt;blockquote&gt;To call a liberal or liberal ideas “evil” does not in the slightest imply that the purveyor of the idea should be “eliminated.” And yet, such a construct is used routinely on the left in order to stifle debate on an issue that they do not wish to discuss or that they want to turn the tables on their conservative interlocutor in such a way as to delegitimize their critique.

Accusing a liberal of “treason” or of being a “traitor” may be hyperbole but it is not hate speech. I find it fascinating that liberals would be so touchy about being tarred with these epithets seeing that they find they words “patriotism” and “patriot” so problematic, “the last refuge of scoundrels” being a common add-on whenever the terms are used.

In short, the use of this made up word has become a convenient way for the left to ascribe almost criminal behavior to the right. It even extends to the use of humor and satire. The most recent kerfluffle involves Glenn Greenwald’s spectacularly ignorant take on “violence inciting” rhetoric used by the right.

It is perhaps de rigeur of moronic nincompoops like Glenn Greenwald that a kind of grim humorlessness permeates their writing. Portraying conservatives as homicidal racists or thuggish homophobes is serious, exhausting work. No time for laughter. No room for humor. The very concepts are alien, as if cracking a smile will cause an immediate and irreversible case of the jollies. Joking about “hanging journalists” or judges, or liberals for that matter is cause for an outpouring of the most hysterical, over the top, exaggerated, laughably overwrought spleen venting screeds imaginable. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Greenwald is being deceitful on more than one level, not just through his use of sock puppets but through the use of the &quot;&lt;strong&gt;Big Lie&lt;/strong&gt;.&quot;  

And this is much more dangerous than sock puppetry, IMHO.  I think it is more important to continue to denounce his message as the group slander it is. 

In her book, &lt;em&gt;Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right&lt;/em&gt;, Ann Coulter (who is right more often than she is wrong) wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;What liberals normally do in response to a principled conservative argument is lie, manufacture quotes, and call conservatives names&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Greenwald&#039;s behavior is just an extension of the &quot;same-old, same-old.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenwald typifies what liberals and Democrats have been doing for decades.</p>
<p>Remember when Democrats used to run on the meme &#8220;Republicans are trying to kill or starve the elderly and poor kids&#8221; for <strong>*DARING*</strong> to advocate welfare reform?</p>
<p>Nothing has changed.  Liberals and Democrats STILL use <strong>&#8220;The Big Lie&#8221;</strong> as a propaganda tool.  Greenwald is just using a blog instead of media sound-bites others use to slander Republicans and conservatives whenever and where ever they can.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/07/18/please-eliminate-the-word-eliminationistand-those-who-use-the-term/" rel="nofollow">Rick Moran </a>at put it:</p>
<blockquote><p>To call a liberal or liberal ideas “evil” does not in the slightest imply that the purveyor of the idea should be “eliminated.” And yet, such a construct is used routinely on the left in order to stifle debate on an issue that they do not wish to discuss or that they want to turn the tables on their conservative interlocutor in such a way as to delegitimize their critique.</p>
<p>Accusing a liberal of “treason” or of being a “traitor” may be hyperbole but it is not hate speech. I find it fascinating that liberals would be so touchy about being tarred with these epithets seeing that they find they words “patriotism” and “patriot” so problematic, “the last refuge of scoundrels” being a common add-on whenever the terms are used.</p>
<p>In short, the use of this made up word has become a convenient way for the left to ascribe almost criminal behavior to the right. It even extends to the use of humor and satire. The most recent kerfluffle involves Glenn Greenwald’s spectacularly ignorant take on “violence inciting” rhetoric used by the right.</p>
<p>It is perhaps de rigeur of moronic nincompoops like Glenn Greenwald that a kind of grim humorlessness permeates their writing. Portraying conservatives as homicidal racists or thuggish homophobes is serious, exhausting work. No time for laughter. No room for humor. The very concepts are alien, as if cracking a smile will cause an immediate and irreversible case of the jollies. Joking about “hanging journalists” or judges, or liberals for that matter is cause for an outpouring of the most hysterical, over the top, exaggerated, laughably overwrought spleen venting screeds imaginable. </p></blockquote>
<p>Greenwald is being deceitful on more than one level, not just through his use of sock puppets but through the use of the &#8220;<strong>Big Lie</strong>.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And this is much more dangerous than sock puppetry, IMHO.  I think it is more important to continue to denounce his message as the group slander it is. </p>
<p>In her book, <em>Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right</em>, Ann Coulter (who is right more often than she is wrong) wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;What liberals normally do in response to a principled conservative argument is lie, manufacture quotes, and call conservatives names&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Greenwald&#8217;s behavior is just an extension of the &#8220;same-old, same-old.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: w3bgrrl</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29980</link>
		<dc:creator>w3bgrrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 14:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between Deb Frisch, Glenn Greenwald, Doug Thompson and &quot;William D. McTavish, registered republican and Vietnam Veteran,&quot; left-leaning loudmouths are the gifts that keep on giving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between Deb Frisch, Glenn Greenwald, Doug Thompson and &#8220;William D. McTavish, registered republican and Vietnam Veteran,&#8221; left-leaning loudmouths are the gifts that keep on giving.</p>
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		<title>By: Donkey Cons</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29978</link>
		<dc:creator>Donkey Cons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 13:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Democrats: &#039;Deus dementat ...&#039; ...&lt;/strong&gt;

Maybe Greenwald can explain away his apparent sock puppetry -- although Allah Pundit isn&#039;t buying Glenn&#039;s &quot;my Brazilian lover is as obsessed with my blog as I am&quot; argument. Jerome and Kos have managed to keep up their hustle despite their various p...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Democrats: &#8216;Deus dementat &#8230;&#8217; &#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Maybe Greenwald can explain away his apparent sock puppetry &#8212; although Allah Pundit isn&#8217;t buying Glenn&#8217;s &#8220;my Brazilian lover is as obsessed with my blog as I am&#8221; argument. Jerome and Kos have managed to keep up their hustle despite their various p&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29972</link>
		<dc:creator>Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to know why the Magic Boyfriend would feel the need to use full false names like Thomas Ellers and Rick Ellensburg in addition to the other nics. 

Actually, no. I wouldn&#039;t like to know because I already do. The comments are made by someone trying to appear as someone that they are not. That someone is Glenn Greenwald. 

Note the both of those names make no blogospheric appearances anywhere other than in these Greenwald items.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to know why the Magic Boyfriend would feel the need to use full false names like Thomas Ellers and Rick Ellensburg in addition to the other nics. </p>
<p>Actually, no. I wouldn&#8217;t like to know because I already do. The comments are made by someone trying to appear as someone that they are not. That someone is Glenn Greenwald. </p>
<p>Note the both of those names make no blogospheric appearances anywhere other than in these Greenwald items.</p>
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		<title>By: Professor Blather</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29970</link>
		<dc:creator>Professor Blather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duh.

Or perhaps ... d&#039;oh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh.</p>
<p>Or perhaps &#8230; d&#8217;oh!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29962</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test... is this thing on?  I think my post got chomped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test&#8230; is this thing on?  I think my post got chomped.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29951</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 22:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact, as the &lt;a href=&quot;http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/187179.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Confederate Yankee&lt;/a&gt; notes in his in-debth analysis, the similarity of writing style was the thing that broke the story.  A person who had no knowledge of the IP addresses the statements were posted from is the guy who got Ace, Reihl, and Petterico examining IP&#039;s.

So while the identical IP addresses don&#039;t prove anything conclusively, they certainly give support to the original hypothesis that &#039;all these people write the same, so they probably are the same person.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact, as the <a href="http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/187179.php" rel="nofollow">Confederate Yankee</a> notes in his in-debth analysis, the similarity of writing style was the thing that broke the story.  A person who had no knowledge of the IP addresses the statements were posted from is the guy who got Ace, Reihl, and Petterico examining IP&#8217;s.</p>
<p>So while the identical IP addresses don&#8217;t prove anything conclusively, they certainly give support to the original hypothesis that &#8216;all these people write the same, so they probably are the same person.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill M</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29938</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 18:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I imagine someone’s already made this point, but if these “other” folks defending Glen are real, why hasn’t any of them noticed the buzz and come forward to explain? 

&lt;/em&gt;

Probably because Glenn has been hogging the computer....

Glenn Greenwald -- a legend in his own mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I imagine someone’s already made this point, but if these “other” folks defending Glen are real, why hasn’t any of them noticed the buzz and come forward to explain? </p>
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<p>Probably because Glenn has been hogging the computer&#8230;.</p>
<p>Glenn Greenwald &#8212; a legend in his own mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29925</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one&#039;s made that point that I&#039;ve seen or read, but it has occurred to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one&#8217;s made that point that I&#8217;ve seen or read, but it has occurred to me.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeyboss</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29915</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeyboss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I imagine someone&#039;s already made this point, but if these &quot;other&quot; folks defending Glen are real, why hasn&#039;t any of them noticed the buzz and come forward to explain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine someone&#8217;s already made this point, but if these &#8220;other&#8221; folks defending Glen are real, why hasn&#8217;t any of them noticed the buzz and come forward to explain?</p>
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		<title>By: labwrs</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29909</link>
		<dc:creator>labwrs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is giving me a headache so I am going shopping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is giving me a headache so I am going shopping.</p>
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		<title>By: Perchant</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2006/07/22/quagmire-sock-puppet-theater-iii/comment-page-1/#comment-29904</link>
		<dc:creator>Perchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 15:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would this make Greenwald a sock puppet?  A sock puppet&#039;s sock puppet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would this make Greenwald a sock puppet?  A sock puppet&#8217;s sock puppet?</p>
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