Report: Israel says Haifa attack was staged … by Iran (Update: Huh? Saudis blame Hezbollah, not Israel, for crisis) (Update: Hezbollah hacked IDF computer?)

posted at 5:54 pm on July 13, 2006 by Allahpundit

According to a news alert aired about twenty minutes ago on Fox. They’re saying it wasn’t a rocket, it was a missile — one known to be manufactured in Iran. And therefore the prime suspect isn’t Hezbollah but Iranian Revolutionary Guard units operating in southern Lebanon.

A quick hit on Ynet says otherwise.

Looking for more details. In the meantime, both Fox and CNN are reporting that Israel’s bombed the road that connects Beirut to Damascus.

Seemed like a good time to start a new war thread.

Update: I’m going to cut the video of the Fox news alert, but it’ll be awhile before it’s up. Meanwhile, Ahmadinejad is warning Israel not to attack Syria:

“If the Zionist regime commits another stupid move and attacks Syria, this will be considered like attacking the whole Islamic world and this regime will receive a very fierce response,” Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying in a telephone conversation with Syrian President Bashar Assad.

Update: LGF says CNN reported the Iran story, too.

Update: “On one question, Iranians showed almost total agreement, regardless of age or gender. When asked if the state of Israel is illegitimate and should not exist, 67 percent agreed and only 9 percent disagreed.”

Update: The Jawa Report explains the significance of Haifa.

Update: As promised, here’s the vid. It aired around 5:40 ET.


Update: Via the Jawa Report, Stratfor cites the call-up of Israeli reserves as evidence that this is Armageddon with Hezbollah.

Update: All the proof you’ll ever need of how worried the region is about Iran: Saudi Arabia — Saudi Arabia — is blaming Hezbollah, not Israel, for the crisis.

I’m speechless:

In a significant move, Saudi Arabia, the Arab world’s political heavyweight and economic powerhouse, accused Hizbullah guerrillas – without naming them – of “uncalculated adventures” that could precipitate a new Middle East crisis.

A Saudi official quoted by the state Saudi Press Agency said the Lebanese Hizbullah’s brazen capture of two Israeli soldiers was not legitimate.

The kingdom “clearly announces that there has to be a differentiation between legitimate resistance (to Israel) and uncalculated adventures.”

Update: Just across the wire: “loud noises” heard in Beirut. Fox is now reporting, at 10:56 ET, an airstrike in a suburb south of the city.

Update: The online jihad escalates: according to Israeli TV’s Channel 10, via the Counterterrorism Blog, Hezbollah managed to hack into the IDF’s computer system before attacking.

Olivier Guitta’s post also contains this nugget:

Yossi Peled, ex Israeli Commander of the Northern area, stated to Yediot Aharonot: ” Tsahal’s mission is today to strike at Hezbollah with such force that the movement won’t survive. Even though Iran is hiding behind Hezbollah, we must focus on the immediate threats against Israel. And those are coming from Hezbollah, Lebanon and Syria.”

Some commenters over at Ace’s site think Iran is trying to lure Israel into a direct confrontation. I think that theory’s nuts, which is also why I’m skeptical as to the Fox report about the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. Iran would be foolish to confront Israel before it had the bomb; Israel would be foolish to confront Iran when it’s already fighting on two fronts. I suspect the mullahs will stick to proxy warfare and, per Peled’s remarks, Israel will stick to accommodating them.

Update: Ultraviolet Dreams pronounces this post hopelessly convoluted. Heh. It is a bit untidy, come to think of it.

To clarify: I think Israel does suspect Iranian guards of having launched the missiles that hit Haifa. But for the reason mentioned in the last update, I think they want to avoid war with the mullahs — and vice versa. Which is why Peled is emphasizing that the fight is against Hezbollah, not Iran.

I haven’t seen any reports in the Israeli papers about the Revolutionary Guard being responsible for the Haifa attack, so as far as I know, the story’s dead.

As for the Saudis, they fear their Iranian Shiite rivals will get the bomb and dominate the region. So they’re using this as an opportunity to turn Arab public opinion against the mullahs by blaming the crisis on Hezbollah.


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I don’t think this means what Ahmadinejad thinks it means.

Iblis on July 13, 2006 at 5:56 PM

I’m thinking Iran’s nuclear program might suffer a ‘setback’ in the near future …

thirteen28 on July 13, 2006 at 6:22 PM

R.I.P. Natanz.

BirdEye on July 13, 2006 at 6:24 PM

I’m thinking the mullahs will be suffering a ‘setback’.

Iblis on July 13, 2006 at 6:25 PM

Ahmadinejad = Imagonnabedead

BirdEye on July 13, 2006 at 6:26 PM

Keep it up Iran, you’ll be getting your 72 virgins pretty soon. This guy says he wants to wipe Israel off the map and replace it with a muslim state. I predict Iran will cease to be an islamic republic before Israel ever becomes one. Ten bucks. Any takers?

Tony737 on July 13, 2006 at 6:26 PM

The only “stupid move[s]” are the ones being committed by Iran and Syria. It’s so obvious that Iran has been looking for a fight for some time now. It looks like they are about to be involved in a really big one. Unofficially, they are already involved. My guess is that, once Iran is “involved” in this war, they will cross into Iraq and pick a real fight with the U.S. (unlike what they have been doing now by supporting the insurgents).

Rick on July 13, 2006 at 6:59 PM

7:10pm FOX News: Condi just pointed the finger at iran and syria.

It’s already suicide to mess with Israel, but do ya really wanna try it with American Forces in Iraq and Afghanistan? Oh yeah, I forgot, ahamjamadingdong WANTS to die! He thinks that’ll lead to islam’s global victory. You can’t negotiate with a wacko like that.

Please please please try to invade Israel by going through Iraq. That’ll give us chance to wipe out the iranian army without invading iran.

Tony737 on July 13, 2006 at 7:16 PM

We need to deploy the US Navy to strategic positions in and around the Persian Gulf. Iran is already in a hopeless position geographically, with the US Military in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is our chance to take them out if they strike, I just hope Bush has the cojones.

speed647 on July 13, 2006 at 8:04 PM

Here’s hoping that our Navy boys and girls are already hard at work getting the port security beefed up in the Strait of Hormuz. I’m think a nice little destroyer or two to protect an Aegis boat might be a good start.

WHEN Israel takes a stab at @sshat…er…Asaad, we’ll see how Iran responds. Here’s the CS Lewis test for them…they are either madmen, liars, or their religion is true. I’m convinced their religion has a problem so…

Pilgrim on July 13, 2006 at 8:16 PM

THe whole being in Iraq thing has a little different look to it at this point,don’t it?

bbz123 on July 13, 2006 at 8:26 PM

On one question, Iranians showed almost total agreement, regardless of age or gender. When asked if the state of Israel is illegitimate and should not exist, 67 percent agreed and only 9 percent disagreed.

This is a case in point of my objection to expending so much of our energy, treasure, and lifetime trying to straighten up muslim countries: We’re just strengthening our enemies. It’s as if someone were to discover that the hitman hired to assassinate him is dying of alcoholism, and were to get him off the bottle, fix him up with a new liver, and arrange his transport to the firing range, so he can recover his old skills. But I say unto you, if you discover your contract killer dying of alcoholism, do take away his Absolut. Pour it over his head and light it.

Kralizec on July 13, 2006 at 8:55 PM

Trust me, the Navy is ready… and has been for over 20 years (unless its really changed since I retired).

A couple of Burkes, a Ticonderoga or 3… and the Gulf is sealed… key is NOT to put Carriers into the Gulf, they just make it harder… keep em outside the Gulf, close enough for CAP…. along with Air Force Assets in Iraq… Gulf is a done deal.

And I’d also start forward deplying the FA-22 to Iraq… put our best foot forward just in case…

Romeo13 on July 13, 2006 at 9:10 PM

Tony737 (July 13, 2006 at 6:26 PM), I wish I could agree, but I think the demographic evidence favors Islam, not Israel. Western birth rates are too low, and I understand that problem includes Israeli Jewish birthrates, as well.

So much has been left undone, year after year, that became unrecoverable in the very moment of its omission. The number of native-born, eighteen-year-old Jewish men in Israel, 17 years from now, cannot be greater than the number of Jewish, male babies born in Israel in 2005. It’s safe to say that’s the way it is throughout the childless West. Get your penis out and use it, Tony737.

Kralizec on July 13, 2006 at 9:13 PM

“Get your penis out and use it” isn’t something I would have expected in the comments about this topic, though I have asked my wife already tonight if it can happen. Still waiting for a final answer on that.

Iran would love a fight with Israel…as long as they get help from the rest of the crazies in the Mideast. Now would be a good time to keep an eye on Russia and, to a lesser degree, China. Count on Kim Jong Il to launch any other missles he has, because this distracts from the attendtion he wants.

Bellicose Muse on July 13, 2006 at 10:32 PM

I still think I’m dreaming that Saudi Arabia blamed Hezbullah for this
Someone pinch me!

If this Israel-Lebanon thing escalates, the Saudi people will assist Hezbullah but it won’t be official or the Saudi Army

Defector01 on July 13, 2006 at 11:03 PM

ISLAMOFASCISM: Its burka is worse than its bite.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on July 14, 2006 at 12:12 AM

This may actually start the split in the Islamic world; Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordon, and Iraq refusing to go over the cliff with Syria and Iran. The ‘moderates’ could use their forces to squash the response of the radical within their borders, letting the wolves that most threaten their power show themselves in the expected hysteria.

Mike O on July 14, 2006 at 12:42 AM

This may actually start the split in the Islamic world; Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordon, and Iraq refusing to go over the cliff with Syria and Iran.

Yep. This all looks a whole lot more manageable with Saddam Hussein out of the picture, doesn’t it?

Pablo on July 14, 2006 at 8:08 AM

I’m speechless with shock- SAUDI ARABIA condemned Hizbollah and not Israel???
Wow. And a pig did not just fly by my window either.

Abigail Adams on July 14, 2006 at 9:19 AM

Dear IDF, don’t waste your bombs on the Iranian nuke factories which can always be rebuilt, it should be the regime itself. My Rx: a radical Tehranotomy, with heavy radiation therapy.

dhimwit on July 14, 2006 at 9:58 AM

World War III. It was inevitable. We’re in the early days … although history books may argue it started in 1979. Or 1920. Or September 2001. Take your pick.

The history of mankind makes it rather obvious that we’re long overdue for a major conflict. Personally, I was sort of hoping we’d matured as a species beyond that sort of thing.

Recent events suggest otherwise. World War III (or is it IV?) is here. There’s blood on the moon.

And we shouldn’t underestimate our enemies. What they lack in military might, intelligence, and honor …. they make up for in numbers, religious zeal, and sheer insanity and stupidity.

The next ten years are going to be ugly.

By the way, Kralizec’s “get our your willy” comment is the most interesting in this thread – because its both the most true and the most frightening. We can’t be beaten military or economically or socially or culturally … but we can be destroyed demographically.

That scares the crap out of me. I’d rather deal with 10,000 screaming Jihadis strapped with explosives and desperate for their virgins … the the demographic realities of the Middle East and western Europe.

Kralizec is right. Get out your johnson and get to work. Procreation may ultimately be our only defense.

And isn’t it ironic that abortion, regardless of the morality, may end up being what destroys us demographically. It’s already happening in Europe. Are we next?

A final irony: will the history books reveal that abortion lowered birth rates so much in the West that we were overwhelmed by the demographics of the Middle East …. and then once they came to power, they – of course – immediately outlawed abortion?

It’s almost funny, isn’t it?

Professor Blather on July 14, 2006 at 10:07 AM

dhimwit

yes, even better, a regimeolysis followed by transplantation and rad shock therapy

Dahvid on July 14, 2006 at 10:08 AM

Abigail,

My humble 2 cents is that the Saudis are pissing their pants at the thought of a nuclear capable Iran.

Dahvid on July 14, 2006 at 10:11 AM

Yep. This all looks a whole lot more manageable with Saddam Hussein out of the picture, doesn’t it?

Pablo on July 14, 2006 at 8:08 AM

Now THAT is an excellent point Pablo.

Cary on July 14, 2006 at 10:23 AM

I don’t think Israel want to bomb anyone back 20 years.

This would mean more trouble in the future but by the way things look it will happen to Iran and Lebanon.

ar_basin on July 14, 2006 at 10:28 AM

Ya, imagine a Saddam in the mix. Now THAT would be complicated. But… point to ponder, if every 20 years Israel bombs them back 20 years they would keep the terrorists at bay indefinitely. Hmm.

Mojave Mark on July 14, 2006 at 10:38 AM

And here’s the big question no one is asking, let alone answering.

Why hasn’t the Lebonese government sent troops to the border to at least attempt to smash the Hezbollah terrorists????

The cockroaches in the palestinian territories and in Lebonon deserve everything they are about to receive.

msplitt on July 14, 2006 at 10:56 AM

Kralizec, yes the arabs are outbreeding the Israelis (and the Euros too) but my point was that Iran will be “flipped” over to the Free Nation List before Israel becomes an islamic republic.

Oh, and Mrs.737 is making people as we speak :-) We’re hopin’ for a girl.

Let’s all pray that the people of Lebenon rise up against the hezbollah terrorists and demand peace. They were starting to get somewhere, they had their Cedar Revolution, they held democratic elections, their economy was improving, they chased out the syrians, etc etc.

Meanwhile, iran is calling us out and just beggin’ for an asswhoopin’. That’s what ahmajihadist wants. And Russia backs this guy up, not realizing that iran, as soon as they get nukes, will give them to the freakin’ CHECHENS! WAKE UP PUTIN! Moron.

Tony737 on July 14, 2006 at 11:31 AM

I pay $7 a gallon for gas if Israel ends this once and for all!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 14, 2006 at 12:32 PM

Dahvid- I think you’re right about Saudi Arabia fearing an Iranian nuke. Mainly because the Iranians are guaranteed to use it on someone once they develop one.

Abigail Adams on July 14, 2006 at 1:35 PM

while the moonbats at kos are showing support of ahmedinijhad and irans call for the elimination of Israel as a jewish nation, members of the ARAB league are criticizing Hezbollah for attacks the saudi minister calls “unexpected, inappropriate and irresponsible acts.” How far out of touch is the left, when the saudis are more supportive of Israels self-defensive actions than THEY are????

colorfulbeachpersona on July 15, 2006 at 3:36 PM