Breaking: Bush agrees to submit NSA wiretaps to FISA courts (Update: McCain says Gitmo gang will get courts-martial)
posted at 10:50 am on July 13, 2006 by Allahpundit
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Announced by Arlen Specter, reported by CNN and Fox. Hasn’t hit the wires yet but I should have a link soon. Specter called the negotiations with the White House “torturous.”
The right call, I think, but it’s surprising that Bush would move on this so soon after the capitulation on Geneva rights for Al Qaeda and the embarrassment over Hoekstra’s letter. Maybe he figures it’s best to deal with it all at once and just get it off table. But he’s really taking it in the pants this week.
A bad spell for executive power. But a wonderful week for America’s soul.
Update: No details about the compromise in Reuters’s report.
Update: Details galore from the AP. A compromise indeed:
An administration official who spoke on condition of anonymity said the bill’s language gives the president the option of submitting the program to the intelligence court, rather than making the review a requirement.
The official said that Bush will submit to the court review as long the bill is not changed, adding that the legislation preserves the right of future presidents to skip the court review.
Why would it give future presidents an out? I guess that’s Bush’s way of proving he’s serious about executive power as a matter of principle even if he personally won’t enjoy as much of it as he’d like. But it can also be touted as a concession that he needs special curtailments because he’s uniquely dangerous.
More details:
Specter told the committee that the bill, among other things, would:
• Require the attorney general to give the intelligence court information on the program’s constitutionality, the government’s efforts to protect Americans’ identities and the basis used to determine that the intercepted communications involve terrorism.
• Expand the time for emergency warrants secured under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act from three to seven days.
• Create a new offense if government officials misuse information.
• At the NSA’s request, clarify that international calls that merely pass through terminals in the United States are not subject to the judicial process established under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
The administration official, who asked not to be identified because discussions are still ongoing, said the bill also would give the attorney general power to consolidate the 100 lawsuits filed against the surveillance operations into one case before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.
Specter did not explain to his committee that detail, which is likely to raise the ire of civil liberties groups.
Eh, they’d have sued anyway. It’s just one more roman numeral for the brief.
Update: Not related to the NSA wiretaps but very much related to the cave-in theme: has the adminstration abandoned its push for military tribunals in favor of full de facto court-martial proceedings for the Gitmo gang? McCain thinks so, but even he’s not sure what Bush is going to do anymore.
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Early on during the American Civil War Senator Zachariah Chandler of Michigan, a so called “Radical Republican” wrote to a college, “The president is unstable as water! You must send strong man to standby and support him!”
Who can we send?
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 13, 2006 at 11:03 AM
If Arlen Specter is happy about this, then I’m not.
Expect more leaks printed on the front page of NYT.
moonsbreath on July 13, 2006 at 11:14 AM
Would whoever stole Bush’s spine please return it, and quick!
What is WITH this guy the past few days???
Darksean on July 13, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Once again, ‘W’ is for ‘wimp’.
thirteen28 on July 13, 2006 at 11:40 AM
Hmmm… this… wants to close Gitmo… Geneva Convention for nonuniformed combatants… now holding off on making it possible for tribunals… Not sticking to guns on N. Korea… not forcing issue with Iran… Wants to give citizenship to illegals… sending Karl Rove to talk to a Racist organzation… no action on emminent domain debacle… no drilling in Anwar… no drilling off coasts of america, even though China is (via Cuba)…
I’m confused here… just what is this administration doing for us?
Romeo13 on July 13, 2006 at 11:47 AM
Romeo13, it’s called Dhimmitude. When, exactly, did the bushies tap out? Makes no sense.
Kid from Brooklyn on July 13, 2006 at 12:05 PM
frankly, this is good
this will be submitted, and when it is proven constitutional and legal, the moonbats will shut the bleep up
Defector01 on July 13, 2006 at 12:05 PM
If the moonbats were CAPABLE of shutting up, they would have already. No they’ll find something else to gripe about. I agree, somebody return this man’s spine, RIGHT NOW!
RH
RobertHuntingdon on July 13, 2006 at 12:29 PM
Arthur Sulzberger has just become the Director of National Intelligence. Bush just put him there.
georgej on July 13, 2006 at 1:22 PM
RH; if it does get approved by the FISA court, which it will be, then the air gets taken out of the moonbats balloon and then their BS falls on deaf and closed ears.
Defector01 on July 13, 2006 at 1:26 PM
This isn’t a matter of spine. This is a matter of due process. This is a matter of checks and balances. This is a Constitutional matter.
This is a matter of taking a “whatever it takes” statement and constraining it appropriately so that “whatever it takes” doesn’t end up trampling our Constitution and destroying the protections that have thus far prevented America from sliding into an authoritarian demise.
Mark Jaquith on July 13, 2006 at 1:31 PM
As I say, I think it was the right call.
The shredding-the-Constitution rhetoric does tend to grate a bit, though.
Allahpundit on July 13, 2006 at 1:33 PM
Ummm… question… why would a non uniformed combatant, taken in time of war, get a trial?
Under the Geneva Convention, you only have to follow standard court proceedings if you CHARGE them with somthing… you can still hold them to the end of hostilities without charging them.
If you give them this Circus venue, and give them full trials, they are just about all gonna walk… why? the battlefield is a lousy place to gather evidence… and they were not given Miranda rights when placed in custody…
So, if the Ruleing is that they should have had those rights all along… and we give them trials… under our own laws they will walk.
Congress NEEDS to step in right now, and figure this one out. But it aint gonna happen cause Bush is caving, and its an election year.
Romeo13 on July 13, 2006 at 1:40 PM
I believe that under the Geneva Convention, if you are found not to be in uniform you are considered a spy and you can be shot! I haven’t seen a uniform yet, ergo…Ready, Aim,
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 13, 2006 at 2:11 PM
Fortunately, this puts all that to bed, at least for anyone who’s watching reality and not some B movie in their head.
Pablo on July 13, 2006 at 2:18 PM
I would expect to see alot less prisoner taking and alot more leaving dead terroists on the battlefield after all this…maybe that’s a good thing.
canvas on July 13, 2006 at 2:20 PM
Spector undergoing torture. What a lovely thought.
Options are good, and it might be worth it since it expands the time for emergency warrants secured from three to seven days, and give the attorney general the power to consolidate the lawsuits. We don’t need a hord of fleas biting at the AG right now. He has more important things to deal with.
Expect more rhetoric from the nut roots. The President’s polling numbers are up.
DannoJyd on July 13, 2006 at 2:21 PM
Wow!!! Sky rocketing toward mediocrity!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on July 13, 2006 at 2:50 PM
This is the advice I imagine the President getting: “If you try to make the fullest use of your executive power, we’ll lose everything. Your use of the powers is widely viewed as extraordinary and dangerous; if you don’t give way in these matters, the Republicans will lose the Presidency, the Congress, and then such control of the Judiciary as they have. It’s unfortunate,” goes the advice I’m imagining, “but more people are going to have to die before Americans once again distinguish citizen from noncitizen, domestic from foreign, or even war from peace. When enough people have died and enough have suffered, future Presidents will be allowed wider discretion, assuming the country survives the coming attacks. Accept that, for now, doing the right thing amounts to doing the wrong thing.”
Another possibility is that “Intelligence Agency X,” the one known to us only by its necessity, has become functional and is working wholly clandestinely and, therefore, beyond almost any restraint. One day, “Intelligence Agency X” will become a matter of public knowledge, just like the NSA eventually did, and then it’ll become just as hobbled and mediocre as the NSA, CIA, Secret Service, and FBI. But that’s a problem for the future.
Both of these possibilities are matters of sheer conjecture for me.
Kralizec on July 13, 2006 at 2:51 PM
(my emphasis)
Nail. Hit. On. Head.
thirteen28 on July 13, 2006 at 3:13 PM
From The Prince, Chapter XV
Applies perfectly to the subject matter of this thread.
thirteen28 on July 13, 2006 at 3:26 PM
Specter and McPain, huh? The best Democrats in the Republican Party.
LewWaters on July 13, 2006 at 3:38 PM
An excellent read, if one wants to be an effective dictator. America, however, has a history of disliking kings named George, so you might want to withhold a full-on endorsement of authoritarianism for the time being.
I try to give equal time to “shredding,” “trampling” and “using as toilet paper.” Might have to work “burning” into the mix… play off the recent flag-burning wankery. But all jokes aside, the President’s sworn oath is to the Constitution, and I voted for him, so I feel compelled to hold him to a high standard of protection, especially as other interests (war, national security, border security etc) take more of the spotlight.
Mark Jaquith on July 15, 2006 at 2:11 AM
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