Video: Liberty in North Korea

posted at 1:17 pm on July 7, 2006 by Bryan

YouTube and the handheld video camera may one day provide the catalyst to prompt the world to get rid of North Korean dictator Kim Jong-Il. The combination of camcorders and a global way to distribute video for free may show those of us who take freedom for granted what North Korea, closed to the world for decades, is really like.

While searching through YouTube for video from North Korea to use in Vent, I came across a short documentary produced by a group called Liberty in North Korea. That name represents a dream; there is no liberty in North Korea today. There is only deprivation and oppression, and the ever-present threat of violence and war. North Korea is Communism in its purest, and most bizarre, form–state micromanagment of everyday life, politics built on cliques and dynasticism and the cult of personality, and rulers who set themselves far above the law while conjuring up threats from without to maintain order within.

In yesterday’s Vent, Michelle described Kim Jong-Il as a “nuke-ready Nero,” and I can’t think of a better way to describe the man. He builds up an intercontinental arsenal and launches it at us while his own people starve to death. He is a madman ruling a mad place.

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You’re absolutely right Bryan, he is a madman ruling a mad place. I will never forget the first time I saw a pic of North Korea from space; showing that the country only has electricity in the capital. Shocking really when it is presented in that way; such a stark contrast to South Korea which is lit up like a Christmas tree at night. It should be hard for anyone out there to ignore what that dictator is doing to his own people. Hell, you can see his oppression from space!

Cary on July 7, 2006 at 1:25 PM

Insubordination aside, I think we can now safely conclude that MacArthur was right and Truman was wrong in dealing with North Korea and China during the Korean War.

But no, instead we fought to a cease-fire, because that was a more “humanitarian” thing to do, substituting that for true victory. And yet we are no safer and will probably have to one day militarily engage North Korea on terms much less favorable to us than were present at the time, while millions of North Korea’s inhabitants (also known as “inmates” or “slaves”) have suffered extreme oppression for more than 50 years.

Yeah, good thing we stopped the fighting over there when we did, huh.

thirteen28 on July 7, 2006 at 1:37 PM

GOD!” Every man, woman and child here should watch this. It is a continuing testament to man’s inhumanity to man. Will it ever cease? And, once again, the MSM blind, deaf and dumb on this but not on Swift or the NSA.

I cannot for the life of me understand anyone who could condone this! I stopped watching documentaries of concentration camps because at least it was history.

North Korea isa concentration camp and the world, again, does nothing!!!!

sharinlite on July 7, 2006 at 1:43 PM

That video sparked a series of random thoughts such as:

I hope the South Koreans appreciate what we saved them from back in 50 – 52. God Bless our Korean Veterans.

As long as there are people like Kim Jong-Il running countries on this planet, America will need a strong military that recruits on College Campuses.

The Left likes to accuse the Bush administration of using false threats to consolidate power. Yeah right. Those cats in North Korea are the real deal and nothing, but nothing here compares.

Like they always say about Darfur (and Africa in general), how can the world look the other way while this is allowed to go on ?

China should be held accountable for North Korea. If anyone can intervene and lead an international movement to fix what is going on there, it is China. Wouldn’t hurt if Russia stepped up to the plate too.

The populace needs the right to bear arms.

moc23 on July 7, 2006 at 1:51 PM

Man, if you can watch that video and not have to choke back at least a tear or two, you are an utterly heartless bastard who does not deserve to waste another molecule of oxygen.

And the retarded morons of the left want us to get out of Iraq because Kim is a “greater threat”? Kim is just as evil (if not more so) but that is NOT the reason to go into NK. Going into NK might actually be a good idea, but not because of that reason. I could have a minor bit of respect for those dungbeetles if they’d actually use something I could respect as a principle. Call for us to go into NK to save these poor people from the abuses their dictator heaps upon them. Call for us to go into NK to get humanitarian relief to the people who need it (instead of the soldiers of Kimistan who will get it if we just try to ship it to their government. But don’t you DARE tell me he’s the “greater threat” after that video. DON’T YOU DARE.

RH

RobertHuntingdon on July 7, 2006 at 1:53 PM

thirteen 28: Some think McArthur should have been given a free hand. He would have had a unified Korea – or a world in cinders. I do believe McArthur was serious about using nuclear weapons on China.

Made me think for a second or two – but Truman was right. The risk of turning the world into “Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome” was not worth the gain of a unified Korea. The Cold War was close to begin with – giving McArthur a free hand would have been like giving Patton the means to attack Russia.

omegaram on July 7, 2006 at 1:55 PM

South Korea bears a great deal of responsibility too. In the past few years, as the war generation dies off, South Koreans increasingly see not Kim but the US as the problem. They have been assisting the dictatorship’s survival, playing a role in the six-party talks that’s analogous to that that played by France in the UNSC–the neutral swing vote. Meanwhile, Kim keeps his dug in artillery aimed at Seoul, ready to flatten the city at a moment’s notice.

Bryan on July 7, 2006 at 1:55 PM

“like giving Patton the means to attack Russia.”

OK, history lesson time. Russia STOLE “the bomb” from us AFTER the war was over. If we had turned around and dealt with communism right then and there the world would be a MUCH better place today. Or at least a much DIFFERENT place. But I strongly expect it would have been much better as well. Patton had his faults of course — what human hasn’t — but with proper support and a few extra bombs in the right places he could have done it.

Oh it wouldn’t have been easy, but it could have been done. After the US realized the true power of the bomb if we had just built a few more and turned Moscow and Stalingrad into cinders, that would probably have been enough. I mean, Russia had already wasted like half it’s population in the early phases of the war. It could not afford another war, especially when we could strike behind their lines and eliminate huge numbers of their potential soldiers with a single bomb.

Pity the commie-loving bastards already had way too much influence over here by that point.

RH

RobertHuntingdon on July 7, 2006 at 2:03 PM

thirteen 28: Some think McArthur should have been given a free hand. He would have had a unified Korea – or a world in cinders. I do believe McArthur was serious about using nuclear weapons on China.

Made me think for a second or two – but Truman was right. The risk of turning the world into “Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome” was not worth the gain of a unified Korea. The Cold War was close to begin with – giving McArthur a free hand would have been like giving Patton the means to attack Russia.

Maybe. Or maybe China would have decided North Korea wasn’t worth getting nuked over and would have thus backed down. But when Truman quickly whisked that option right off the table, the Chi-Coms knew they were bascially home free to continue interfering in the war Truman didn’t have the stomach to win it. Thus we ended up settling for a divided Korean penninsula and condemned entire generations to communist slavery while failing to end the North Korean threat. Now it’s much greater, China is much more powerful as well, and a solution to this problem is going to be much more costly than it would have then.

Vince Lombardi was right, winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing. That’s certainly true when the subject is war.

P.S.

South Korea bears a great deal of responsibility too. In the past few years, as the war generation dies off, South Koreans increasingly see not Kim but the US as the problem. They have been assisting the dictatorship’s survival, playing a role in the six-party talks that’s analogous to that that played by France in the UNSC–the neutral swing vote. Meanwhile, Kim keeps his dug in artillery aimed at Seoul, ready to flatten the city at a moment’s notice.

… what he^ said.

thirteen28 on July 7, 2006 at 2:10 PM

I have some thoughts, in no particular order:
NK is a concentration camp.

I repeat again (as I did on a thread earlier this week) WHERE is the Red Cross? The Hollywood Elite? Amnesty International? Human rights activists?

Shame on every U.S. president who has let NK fester like an open wound for the past 50+ years.

Liberating the North Koreans is a noble idea. We should strongly consider it. The bottom line is that it is the RIGHT thing to do.

Everyone should see this video. Send it over to DU. they have some true sickos on that site who think that Kim Il Jong has hung the moon (and Hugo Chavez for that matter).

Where is the outrage? I’m waiting for the leftists to FINALLY denounce communism or try to prove to me WHY it works and WHY they continue to support its ideals. I’ll be waiting a very long time…

moc23 on July 7, 2006 at 1:51 PM said: “The populace needs the right to bear arms.” That is a true statement and our right to bear arms is so fundamental to why we are still a free country (IMHO).

Seeing the children starving, not because of natural famine, but because of the cruelty and insanity of another human being nearly did me in. I’ll never let my kids waste food again.

And we continue to turn away. i’m sickened.

pullingmyhairout on July 7, 2006 at 2:36 PM

It’s a lesson we have to learn from Iraq in the oil for food program and even that didn’t help when Saddam diverted the resources to himself and his own army. So, any food aid to help these poor kids will never reach their mouths, just the N. Korean army. I think they are reaching a point of no return. Food can only last so far in a country full of starving people.

Kokonut on July 7, 2006 at 3:01 PM

You’re more right than you know, Kokonut. NK gets food aid now from the US, Japan and South Korea, and the food (coming from us, anyway) is labelled as a gift from the United States to the people of North Korea. But Pyongyang dents whatever goodwill we might get from this benevolence by explaining that the food is a form of reparations we’re paying for the damage we did to North Korea during the war.

Bryan on July 7, 2006 at 3:08 PM

Its the “out of sight out of mind” problem.
People can believe that we are at peace and everything is hunky dory as long as they can convince themselves that places like N. korea or Iraq or Sommalia aren’t their problems. As long as they can marginalize whats happening over their everything is peachy. Since nothing that happens so far away has any real bearing on them they can ignore it, swallow the N. Korean propaganda, and delude themselves that the world is a happy place.
Its when people like Bush see whats going on and decide to do something about it that the problems begin. Then we send soldiers. Then we see war. Then we see death. All of a sudden it impacts our lives over here. Everything was peacefull before that evil man Bush went to war!
What these people fail to see is the injustice that makes it necasary for us to wage war. They lived in denial of the reality of the situation. In some ways these people are the most selfish of all. Its ok for several million people to starve to death as long as we can have peace. Its ok for 2 million Vietnamese and cambodians to be killed by the communist cleansing, as long as we have peace. Let the world go to hell in a handbasket, just as long as we can live in peace. These people (or as I call them, hard left liberals) live in a slave mentality. They remind me of Lot “Please! here, rape my 2 virginal daughters, just leave me in peace”
They may never wake up to reality. But thank god their are enough people willing to take a stand for what is right. We may be reviled for it, but thats part of the price we pay.

Wyrd on July 7, 2006 at 3:11 PM

It took more than a few tissues and deep breaths to watch this vid entirely. I really wanted to stop viewing. I agree with all the comments above but most especially about South Korea. They have aided, abetted and facilitated that little madman in NK while badmouthing the US for the past few years. That angers me to no end!

labwrs on July 7, 2006 at 3:45 PM

It took more than a few tissues and deep breaths to watch this vid entirely. I really wanted to stop viewing. I agree with all the comments above but most especially about South Korea. They have aided, abetted and facilitated that little madman in NK while badmouthing the US for the past few years. That angers me to no end!

Such is the fickleness of human nature, but it just goes to show you the fallacy behind all “the world hates us (the U.S.)” arguments. If any country should be grateful for what the U.S. has done for them, it’s South Korea, but the up-and-coming generation is comprised largely of a bunch of historically ignorant ingrates. Almost makes you want to just see our forces pulled out with a very public hint-hint type of announcement that we will no longer defend South Korea. To quote a cheesy ballad by a bad 80’s hair metal band, you don’t know what you got until it’s gone.

The situation with the ingrates of South Korea should also disabuse people of the whole “hearts and minds” notion as well, since no matter what you do to win those hearts and minds, you may not get them, and even if you do, fickle people will forget and turn against you. On the other hand, if the South actually feared that we would pull our forces out and leave them at the mercy of the North, then you would more likely see a change of attitude.

thirteen28 on July 7, 2006 at 4:46 PM

Wyrd,

You are absolutely correct in your assessment. The leftists only see what the MSM covers. That, of course, is what the U.S. and its allies are engaged in. This is so because the MSM does not cover any of the horrors that take place in countries like N. Korea, Cuba, China and Iraq (under Hussein). They are not allowed to report on such things by the dictators of these countries. A good example of this was discussed some time ago in a New York Times editorial piece (I can’t remember by whom – I apologize- maybe somebody can help me with this). The piece described the pre-war relationship between the MSM and the Iraqi government. Apparently, the CNN office in Iraq did not report the atrocities they knew were being committed by the Hussein regime because they were afraid of any repercussions such reporting would have on CNN’s Iraqi employees (and their families).

This shows me the sick twisted way the Left thinks. They protest most everything our government does to protect our very existence and freedoms (they take for granted); they protest the fact that we go and try to spread some of that same freedom to those that have never had it; and they only protest what they see, hear and read from the MSM. As noted above, the MSM freely reports what happens in democracies, but can only report what a dictatorship allows them.

What really gets me about all of this is that they are so focused on our mistakes in Iraq, but yet fail to see the big picture. The only reason the world knows what is going on in Iraq now is because the MSM is able to freely report the truth. This is only so because our valiant troops liberated the Iraqis from that oppressive regime. Prior to the war, all we knew from Iraq was what Saddam’s people told us. I don’t remember any MSM stories on all the torture, rapes and mass graves during Saddam’s glory days. The Left makes me sick.

Rick on July 7, 2006 at 4:52 PM

Wyrd,
You echo my thoughts exactly. Todays appeasers aren’t even interested in “peace in our time”, but merely “peace in our place and time” and the hell with the millions upon millions who suffer because of these @#$% tyrants.

Tuning Spork on July 7, 2006 at 6:32 PM

There will be a special place in Hell for Kim Jong-Mentally-Ill.

speed647 on July 7, 2006 at 9:23 PM

I’m not going to go all religious on this site, but what frustrates man doesn’t stop God. Christian missionaries are in every Communist country, and most Muslims are hearing the Gospel. There will be an end for the tin hat dictators, and it isn’t going to be on their terms, but His.

Doug on July 7, 2006 at 11:57 PM

We will live to see communism end in China and N.K. just as we saw it end in Russia (well, sort of) and Eastern Europe. The people of N.K. will do to ‘Lil Kim what the people of Romania did to (Phonetic spelling) “Chowchesque”.

Don’t ya just love it when American lefties who’ve never suffered the evils of communism defend commie dictators who $&#* in golden toilets while their people starve to death?

Tony737 on July 8, 2006 at 12:33 AM

Close your tags, people!

‘Mad Max beyond Thunderdome’ from 1950’s Korea??? Give me a break! What was CHina’s nuclear capacity then? More importantly, what was their delivery capacity? Anybody really think they would have expended any capacity they had over North Korea (as opposed a full-scale invasion from the U.S.)? All MacArthur wanted wanted to do was shut down all crossings over the Yalu (sp?) River and you certainly don’t take any option off the table when dealing with people who are currently killing American troops in the field.

Korea was the first precedent of a war half-fought to a set of rules; we may pay the price for that now 55 years later.

Mike O on July 8, 2006 at 10:27 AM

Right out of Adolph Hitler’s playbook. This vid needs wider circulation.

gary on July 8, 2006 at 11:10 AM