UN to consider Chapter VII resolution against NK? (Update: Russia, China oppose resolution)
posted at 9:53 am on July 5, 2006 by Allahpundit
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The Security Council meets at 10 a.m. Fox just broke in with the news about Chapter VII, which authorizes various punitive actions, including an eventual military response, for acts of aggression. According to Fox, the U.S., Japan, Britain, and France support the resolution, and Russia and China naturally oppose it.
They fired off lucky number seven this morning at around 4:20 ET — and Australia thinks there’s more coming:
Pyongyang could test additional missiles soon despite the international furor over Wednesday’s launches, Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said after making a protest via telephone to North Korea’s ambassador to Canberra, Chon Jae Hong.
“We think they probably do intend to launch more missiles in the next day or two,” Downer told reporters, without explaining if the possibility of more tests came up in his talk with Chon.
I’ll update once the UNSC meeting starts.
Update: Cowboy talk!
Update: Just thinking out loud here, but what kind of sanctions do you impose on people who already eat grass to survive? What more can they be deprived of?
Update: The UN has a webcast page, but I’m not sure if they’ll be broadcasting the meeting itself. The Chinese ambassador is at the press room mic right now declaring yesterday’s launches “a regret.”
Update: Sounds like Chapter VII is just leverage to get the Koreans back to the table. Not that that will accomplish anything, but it has at least the appearance of usefulness.
Update: Fox says a US/UK/Japan draft resolution would bar funds and technology from North Korea.
Update: Supposedly, Bush is due to speak at any time, Condi Rice will say something at 11:20, and the UN will hold a press conference at 12:30.
Update: The UNSC meeting’s over and Bolton is at the mic in the press room. He says no member of the Council defended the North Korean actions.
Update: Actually, the meeting’s not over. They were taking a break. Reuters says there’ll be no vote today on the draft resolution, which would prohibit “the transfer of financial resources, items, materials, goods and technology to end users that could contribute to (North Korea’s) missile and other weapons of mass destruction programs.”
Update: Eric Shawn reports on Fox that 13 of the 15 members of the UNSC are in favor of a strong resolution. The two opposed, as usual, are fascist brothers-in-arms Russia and China. They prefer a “presidential statement” as opposed to an actual, enforceable resolution.
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Chapter VII, chapter VIII. Whatever it takes.
Kevin M on July 5, 2006 at 10:06 AM
I agree, Allah-you can’t impose many more sanctions on already-starving people.
I bet we’ll get a “strongly-worded condemnation” from the Useless Nothings…
Tick tock…
NTWR on July 5, 2006 at 10:09 AM
China thinks the launches warrant “a regret”? Yeah, right.
In fact, NK may serve as a convenient proxy for China in their effort to probe US responses to provocation. While they express regret over the NK launches the ChiComms are undoubtedly watching our reaction closely, then filing the new data in their “When We Rape Taiwan” drawer.
The Ritz on July 5, 2006 at 10:26 AM
I don’t get it. why would NK risk nuclear war? what are they trying to prove?
pullingmyhairout on July 5, 2006 at 10:30 AM
The UN is a shameful joke. They can’t poor pee out of a boot. Listening to anything they say is a complete waste of time. North Korea realizes they are useless as does Iran.
Shmo on July 5, 2006 at 10:32 AM
PMHO-They would risk nuclear war because they have nothing to lose, in the mind of Kim the maniac…a few lost souls is worth the great glory he would have in his own, sorry mind.
I agree the ChiComms are watching closely. They are probably in cahoots with NK.
The people are so hungry, small from decades of malnourishment, depressed, and sick that they don’t have the will or the way to stand up to their governments.
Let this be a reminder to the world of why Communism is evil and any government with the power to give it’s people everything they need to survive, has the power to take it all away.
Stop attempts to Socialize our country through healthcare, etc. Socialism is just creeping Communism.
NTWR on July 5, 2006 at 10:47 AM
Don’t the Chinese & Russians realize that this maniac is a threat to themselves as well ????
As for the French- watch them stick a knife in our backs if the opportunity arises during this crisis….
Abigail Adams on July 5, 2006 at 10:51 AM
Here we go again with the Drumbeat of the MSM about going to the UN.What a waste of time.
For once could we just forget the UN and tell North Korea that if one of their missiles approaches a city, they will be nuked into the last century.
ScottyDog on July 5, 2006 at 11:12 AM
Kevin,
LOL!
NRA4Freedom on July 5, 2006 at 11:14 AM
Here’s another example of the UN’s “accomplishments” for peace and equality in the world.
THe UN is a communist tool. If we didn’t need our veto power I would say get out of it. Maybe it should just be destroyed.
NTWR on July 5, 2006 at 11:18 AM
The scene from Team America where Hans Brix threatens Kim with a very nasty letter keeps replaying in my mind now.
thirteen28 on July 5, 2006 at 11:19 AM
North Korea, as with Iran, is controlled by those who have little regard for the welfare of the population. In North Korea the people exist as a resource for the aspirations of Kim Jong-Il and nothing more. Anahillation of the people of North Korea is not the answer.
The UN sanctions are a necessary prerequisite for further action. Military action is a continuation of diplomacy to reach political decisions.
North Korea is still to some degree China’s proxy. Although things have changed China is still the key to North Korea. Military action in North Korea may bring a sad story to an end but the price would probably, almost certainly, be horrific.
These missle tests are yet another tactic of brinksmanship than Kim Jong-Il loves to play. Whether it is a punk craving attention or tactics to gain some political advantage (perhaps both), the results still come down to more of what has happened in the past.
I believe that the United States government is playing this game as best as it can be played.
omegaram on July 5, 2006 at 11:35 AM
‘Bar funds and technology’; yeah, right! Has that worked before on them? Has not China continue to slide things under the table to them the entire time?
Of course, getting their trains stolen might tick off the Chinese enough to squash some of the tecnological gifts, but I doubt it.
Mike O on July 5, 2006 at 11:35 AM
Scotty-
They already are stuck in last century…perhaps stone-age would be more of a threat.
As for NK, China being their ‘daddy’ is sufficient to ensure that they’ll never go without technology. It’s a great place for the Chinese to have stuff tested without getting the bad PR.
webproze on July 5, 2006 at 11:46 AM
You know, now that North Korea has gone all nutso, I’m thinking Kerry and Murtha might’ve been right to have a portion of our troops “redeployed” to Okinawa. Of course, when a ground war breaks out in that part of the world, they’d want the troops redeployed to France or something.
Savage on July 5, 2006 at 12:15 PM
When I first saw the headline I thought the UN was filing for Bankruptcy protection.
Hah! Now THAT would be meaningful.
dung.
Moose Dung on July 5, 2006 at 12:24 PM
We should drop a MOAB’s on his Daffy Duck collection.
moonsbreath on July 5, 2006 at 12:44 PM
Chapter VII is Bankruptcy. How appropriate for the U.N. Since most of them a morally bankrupt!!!!!!!!!!!
dallas94 on July 5, 2006 at 12:57 PM
The whole world knows of the missile launches and the failure of the ‘long range’ try, except the people of North Korea. They probably were shown/told of hugely successful launches that equal the US in strength…HA HA. But thats what they were told as they starve yet another day. Kim Jong Mentally Ill tried to flex his muscles but blew a hernia instead. I cant help but wonder how many NK people he could have fed with the money spent on those useless Scuds. We know he will never feed his people, and now it will be worse as his disastrous fireworks display fizzled away like a fast wet dream. Sadly I dont think there is a much worse demon than an upset embarrassed madman like Jong Mentally Ill is now. I hope this premature ejaculation will knock some sense into China and the ‘talks’.
shooter on July 5, 2006 at 1:05 PM
Hey Dems and Left leaning folks…What do you care about these missile launches. None of you should care one bit, nor can you say much about this missile launch by NK. This cant be anything at all to you . These Scuds are fifty (50) years old, way older than the recent WMD’s we found in Iraq. So they dont really count, right?
shooter on July 5, 2006 at 1:35 PM
Shooter–
How can you say this is Korea thing is important when your international transactions to terrorists groups are being MONITORED and Scooter Libby and Karl Rove are still free men after what they did to PLAAAAAAME?
Sincerely,
A Moonbat.
see-dubya on July 5, 2006 at 1:44 PM
A Moonbat-
What is it did “they” exactly do to Plame? As she was not covert she could not be “ousted”. Karl Rove was not indicted and Scooter Libby will be exonerated.
robo on July 5, 2006 at 2:00 PM
A Moonbat, let me digress, after the NEXT indictment on Karl Rove, then lefties can feel better about themselves, and then they can re-address the whole “how old is an old bomb” debate they hold so dear to their heart. So , give it a week. Kaos (k-os) will be heard from again, just not from with-in.(he been hanging w/ the ACLU too long)
shooter on July 5, 2006 at 2:11 PM
Whew. The thought of Karl Rove in handcuffs just brings out something…primal in me. I need a cold shower.
Robo–if you don’t know what THEY did to PLAAAAAAAME then you’ve been living under a rock and being fed lies by the right-wing media and FAUX news, just like THEY want you to.
Sincerely,
A Moonbat.
PS Waaaaah.
see-dubya on July 5, 2006 at 2:36 PM
see-dubya or moonbat, as you like it,
to be kinky means ‘tightly twisted or curled’.
It looks like more than your mind is kinky.
Entelechy on July 5, 2006 at 2:46 PM
Just kidding, guys, jeez.
see-dubya on July 5, 2006 at 2:54 PM
China is the key to North Korea. When China pulls the plug on kim jong, the whole Korean government will evaporate. China will then have to deal with the mess left behind. Korea will be in the spotlight all right as Kim wants, but as a victim of China’s aggression and not as America’s challenger. It shouldn’t take too long. China is being upstaged and will have enough soon. Remember, Chinese soldiers died defending North Korea. China needs a working communist country as a neighbor, not a crazy dictator.
Shmo on July 5, 2006 at 4:18 PM
The promise of Kim Il Sung was to reunite the South and The North of Korea by any means. He died before keeping that promise, thus leaving his son and many of the North Korean military leadership to carry out the promise. Kim Jung Il must position himself to his people as a Leader that has intentions of fulfilling his fathers wishes, or possibly lose power in the future. Perhaps by “illness” or “accidental” means perpetrated by his “associates”. Such is the world of dicatorships.
If Kim Jong Il can get enough Cindy Sheehans together on the MSM, he may be able to pull it off by having the South Koreans relieve the USA from it’s responsibility to defend them.
gary on July 5, 2006 at 4:23 PM
See-dubya, for what it’s worth, I thought your “A Moonbat” bit was funny.
EFG on July 6, 2006 at 1:30 AM