Dissent is patriotic: Protesting the NYT

posted at 5:03 pm on July 4, 2006 by Bryan

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Traitors.

NRA4Freedom on July 4, 2006 at 5:17 PM

I am actually surprised that there was an admission that the media is not neutral. We know that they are biased and not neutral, but for them to admit it is amazing. I hope that they are held accountable for their actions, if nothing else, for the encouragement of others.

DAT60A3 on July 4, 2006 at 5:28 PM

“Send them all to Gitmo!”

Hear! hear!

georgej on July 4, 2006 at 6:06 PM

Trying to shame the NYT about supporting anti-American forces is like trying to shame a 2 year old about running through the house naked. . . they just don’t get it.

MCPO Airdale on July 4, 2006 at 6:16 PM

Gitmo is too good for these traitors—send them to a turkish prison where they will dine on stale bread and water only.

PAPA BEAR on July 4, 2006 at 6:21 PM

The Bush administration if far too restrained when it comes to shutting the mouths of the NYT journalist spies. At least they should be dragged before a grand jury. If they refuse to dish, then they get an 18 month blogging break in prison. If they talk, then we know who the real moles are working in the Bush administration. At best the NYT editors should be tried for treason. If that were the case, I couldn’t wait to hear the words “chilling effect” come from the mouths of the old media. “Chilling effect?” You bet!

Mojave Mark on July 4, 2006 at 7:31 PM

Yeah no kidding. A chilling effect is the POINT. And we BADLY need one.

RobertHuntingdon on July 4, 2006 at 9:14 PM

I wouldn’t be suprised to discover that there is an investigation going on right now into this mess – including to find out who the mole(s) is(are). GWB, on the TV the other day talking about this, was visibly angered. To me, that is a clue that he has some resolve in him to – well – resolve this leaking for once and for all. I’d be willing to place money on the table that there is at least one elected official culpable, and possibly more, which would make this a conspiracy. I dare not name whom I would suspect, but the apparent lack of any regard for anyone beside themselves and their desires to return to power opens a wide door to the closet full of the usual suspects.

Where is Captain Renault when you need him…..

Woody

woodcdi on July 4, 2006 at 9:38 PM

I won’t say what I would like to do to Bill Keller, but it’s something along the lines of what Lewis does to Rahman here.

thirteen28 on July 4, 2006 at 10:07 PM

No one could say it better than Thomas Sowell:

Americans may in fact be dying literally now because of what the terrorists have been told — and ultimately because a jerk inherited the New York Times

Entelechy on July 4, 2006 at 11:00 PM

Dissent isn’t patriotic! I can disagree with toilet paper or deodorant…. doesn’t make it patriotic. Dissent for dissents sake is just sheep lead over the cliff stupid! People need to wake the hell up and see the light! Stop being protesters for protesting’s sake.Grow up libs! You’re the first…well maybe second people that would be killed in this fight on terrorism. I imagine your ignorant masses being rounded up and showed to the exit…and you never seeing it coming…..pathetic….time for the clock to go off…. don’t see that happening. An ostrich with it’s head in the sand sees nothing…

sMack on July 4, 2006 at 11:59 PM

As I’ve said many times.

We have fallen asleep — All of us! There needs to be a special ops level, militarily organized shutdown of the NYT, LA times, Time Mag, CNN, most democratic offices, and many university offices. There is a difference between dissent and actively sabotaging the military efforts of this country on a war sparked by a direct attack on our soil, continuing with people actively taunting us.

We need swift decisive action against Iran, N. Korea. Action like Israel is taking. Action that has a chilling effect on these monsters. We can’t take that action because we are a democracy and we have treasonous behavior by those who dissent in this country. Lives are being lost, resources wasted, and effective action not taken because of treasonous behavior of those on our own soil

If we were united, all of these confilcts would be so over. It is OK to disagree in private debate or behind closed committee doors, but in public, facing the whole world who would like to see us go down, we had better be United, and show a determined effort so that no one even thinks about messing with us.

All these editors, Murtha, Kennedy, Pelosi, Ried need to be rounded up and sequestered and told, this is a democracy and we value your opinion, but since you can’t keep from betraying your country in order to advance your own personal interests, we are going to force you to be more appropriate with your opinions. This is the kindest I can imagine being to them. I can make a better case to execute them immediately.

CountryDoc on July 5, 2006 at 1:55 AM

Think back to the Clinton years. Alternative media was just getting it’s feet under it-the NYT and MSM were believed by the American people and Clinton won re-election. Now think about if Gore had won, or Kerry had won in the last election. You wouldn’t believe how the NYT would be supporting either of those Presidents! Anyone who dared to question any of their programs would be dubbed a traitor by the NYT.
What can we do? As Hugh Hewitt says:Paint the Map Red. We should be all the more active to see that in the next elections the Democrats/Liberals lose more seats, have more power taken from them. Neither they nor the NYT can be trusted with our National security, and if you think I like that idea, you’re wrong. I grew up in a Democratic family, and live in what is ostensibly a “Blue State”. There have been good Democratic Presidents/leaders in the past, but the “Rabid anti-War-no-matter-what-Left” which now rules the Democratic Party have not shown that they truly believe we are at War. That ideology will get us killed, folks. Until the Democrats lose the “Anti” crowd, we should vote Republican. Some of them are stinkers too, but we’ll be safer.

Doug on July 5, 2006 at 7:04 AM

When the next attack on our homeland comes, these same MSM creeps will immediately blame Bush for imagined laxity and with great glee note that he can no longer say he has kept us free from attack. Their own part in aiding and abetting will be ignored just as was the NYT editorial of 9/21/01 calling for stricter survellience of terrorist activities by gov’t agencies. Libs, dems and the MSM conveniently have no memory of what they said in the past because they possess no enduring principles…just whatever may get them elected or sell newspapers and advertising at the current moment.

Crude One on July 5, 2006 at 8:57 AM

Great vent, HotAir staff!

I thought most telling was the comment by the WP staffer who talked about an administration and President who is trying to be too controlling; this really shows how deeply BDS has infected the MSM.

dalewalt on July 5, 2006 at 9:17 AM

Could it be, dalewalt, that Eugene Robinson and his ilk know that the President hasn’t “vastly expanded presidential powers” and are taking undue advantage? It could be simple projection – “We, on the left, are greedy for power, so isn’t everyone? – but I’m beginning to wonder. Remember the horrid, insulting treatment the President received at Coretta Scott King’s funeral and how he absorbed the blows with quiet dignity and grace. The opposition expects that of him and confidently kicks him, and concomitantly the country, in the shins with impunity.

Aunt B on July 5, 2006 at 10:01 AM

“Round them up for Treason! Send them all to GITMO!” Too funny :)

Another HotAir instant classic.

Kevin M on July 5, 2006 at 10:05 AM

Question?
What if a person who can’t hear or speak just lost a loved one over the dumb reporting keller did and they just decided to go up to keller or someone just as stupid and punch the guy out now can they say it’s free speech for them?

What would happen?

Is it or Not free speech for them, remember they can’t speak or hear and they are mad as hell at what the news reported?

Thanks Hotair for good reporting…

IT’S TREASON even after they sugar coated..

alyce on July 5, 2006 at 10:42 AM

Thanks Aunt B for giving me the proper quote of what the WP guy said; I couldn’t listen to it again (too many people around at work) so couldn’t get the quote right.

And good point about the Coretta Scott King incident; the left makes a game out of knocking GW around; knowing that he can’t really say anything about it.

Much as I hate to say it, I don’t think he can really pull the White House press credentials from NYT; the administration would end up getting sued for restricting their freedom of the press. I know, I know, they *should* have the creds revoked, but realistically it can’t happen.

dalewalt on July 5, 2006 at 11:16 AM

I agree with you, dalewalt, that the White House won’t yank the NYT’s press credentials. It wouldn’t be productive and the political fallout would be unbearable. That said – and I’m sure you would agree – the source/sources of the leaks must be stopped, immediately.

In light of that, I’m reminded of a line I heard the other day. Memory fails as to who said it and it is a fragment, but it is chilling: “In the know and in the grave.” Bush gets it, as did Porter Goss. Does Negroponte?

Aunt B on July 5, 2006 at 12:33 PM

Yes, most definitely the sources need to be stopped; and the perpetrators charged with treason. Unfortunately, I’m not sure a whole lot could be done to stop the NYT (or others) from reporting things like this once a leak DOES develop (sorry CountryDoc). Not sure how they’d detect the leakers, though. Obviously, the gov’t cannot tap the NYT phones/email (for the same reasons they can’t yank the creds); I assume if they could narrow the list of leakers down they could monitor them (I mean legally, of course).

dalewalt on July 5, 2006 at 1:23 PM

Re: Pinch, Keller, Lichtblau,et el.

It would seem to me that no matter how dull and insipid these dolts must be, it has to be dawning on them that they have painted themselves into a corner. I can’t think of anyone in America right now who has a more vested personal interest in hoping another 9/11 style Domestic Terrorist attack doesn’t happen. If they hven’t figured it out, then I bet it might have occurred to someone in their immediate family.

there it is on July 5, 2006 at 1:57 PM

Devil’s Advocate time here, folks. While I came to the conclusion long ago that the NYT was treasonous, what exactly did they publish that couldn’t have been gleaned by anyone who read Tom Clancy’s Teeth of the Tiger?

pubscout on July 5, 2006 at 2:59 PM

In fact, Clancy’s “Debt of Honor” presaged the 9/11 attacks way back in the early 90′s.

pubscout on July 5, 2006 at 3:01 PM

Like it or not, the NYT will continue to stay its course regardless of what anyone thinks or says. We can call the journalists responsible for the national security leaks traitorous and irresponsible until we’re blue in the face, but it will accomplish nothing.

People are still buying the NYT. If the American people truly gave a flying f#$% about any of this, they would stop buying the grey lady’s rag.

ztep86 on July 5, 2006 at 4:22 PM

Because of that pesky ol’ first amendment, don’t expect the govt to do much. Frontier justice however has a long and largely honorable place in our history. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

dhimwit on July 5, 2006 at 5:32 PM

Sorry pubscout, “Debt of Honor” didn’t exactly presage 9/11; it had one lone nut crashing a plane into the Capitol; not a coordinated effort by an international terrorist organization.

But, that point aside, are you really suggesting that because something was in a fictional novel that bringing the real world program to the light of day doesn’t qualify as a crime?

dalewalt on July 5, 2006 at 6:02 PM

Dissent could be considered “patriotic” in a sense, right up until it crossed the line and became sedition and treason. Again, this Nation is so full of leftist seditious traitors, the good people of the United States cannot seem to even bring themselves to call them what they truly and most obviously are anymore.

NRA4Freedom on July 5, 2006 at 10:26 PM

dalewalt…

One lone fanatic on a mission of vengeance and destruction or 19 in three separate aircraft–no difference to me, except in magnitude. The act was presaged in the novel and could have easily given Al-Qaeda nut jobs the germ of an idea. So could the financial transactions discussed convincingly by Clancy in “Tiger.” Anyone who read that could readily assume that such surveillance was indeed de rigeur. In fact, a sharp reader might divine that such surveillance was even more complex than what Clancy depicted.

pubscout on July 6, 2006 at 8:33 AM