Discovery still a go

posted at 11:09 am on July 4, 2006 by Bryan

NASA administrator Michael Griffin takes the biggest risk of his career. But it’s a necessary risk, and a good one.

NASA officials decided a crack in Discovery’s fuel tank insulating foam wasn’t enough of a threat to stop the countdown Tuesday to their first Independence Day shuttle launch. The launch is set for 2:38 p.m. EDT.

Inspectors spotted the crack Monday. A 3-inch piece of foam also popped out of the area, which covers an expandable bracket holding a liquid oxygen feed line against the huge external fuel tank.

After several hours of inspections and meetings, officials decided to continue with the launch as planned. NASA administrator Michael Griffin said Tuesday that the crack wasn’t a major concern and that cameras were trained on the area so if ice built up after the super-cold fuel was added, the launch could be delayed.

We establish days, weeks, months in advance the criteria that we have to meet in order to be able to launch. If we don’t meet them, we stand down,” meaning the shuttle doesn’t launch, Griffin told NBC’s “Today” show.

If the weather cooperates, we’ll be back in space–where the future is.

Update: Picture perfect. Happy Independence Day!

Discovery Liftoff

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A bold “risk” indeed. I pray this goes off well, for if it does not, Independence Day will forever be marred with a tragic memory. High risk often returns high rewards, but in this case?? What is to be gained by it flying on this day? Could it not wait until tomorrow, where sadly, lives lost would be a devastating event, but not as bad as on this day. Another lost shuttle would mean the end of the shuttle program (perhaps a good idea anyway,) but a lost shuttle on the 4th of July may very well strike a crippling blow to NASA from which it would never recover. WE NEED NASA. More than we need Discovery to fly today. God be with them, our soldiers in space, and with those on other battlefields where failure is also not an option, especially on this day.

y2church on July 4, 2006 at 11:29 AM

I think its a great statement for the U.S. As you said y2church: high risk, high rewards. What a great day for a launch. The entirety of the country is available to watch the launch. Tomorrow it would be a second hand news item, relagated to the seconds amongst the babbling idiots and talking heads on a regular news cycle day. I do agree the tradgedy would be greatly heightened if an accident was to occur. I doubt however all the parties having a say would allow theis to procede if the risks could not be mitigated.

I wish the team heading for the heavens all the best and fair winds as they show once again that America can inspire hope on this our 230th anniversary as a country.

Psycotte on July 4, 2006 at 11:40 AM

Watch the launch on streaming video.

NASA STS-121

Once again I wish the team all the best!!

Psycotte on July 4, 2006 at 12:10 PM

Edward Tufte, a well-known expert in informational graphics and a strong critic of the decision-making that contributed to the last two shuttle disasters, says that “NASA has made a reasonable and well-informed decision for the upcoming flight.” (His view is based on public documentation, not direct knowledge, but he has studied the shuttle launches extensively.) This page has more… a text find for “Discovery Launch” will bring you to the right place, though the whole page in interesting. Much of his analysis of the previous two disasters, with a focus on the PowerPoint presentations and other information graphics that led to less-than-fully-informed decisions, is here.

Watching the launch preparations live now… very cool. Thanks, Psycotte!

I join the rest of you in wishing the astronauts a safe departure and return.

insomni on July 4, 2006 at 1:16 PM

“And the rocket’s red glare….”

Up and away.

Godspeed discovery!

georgej on July 4, 2006 at 2:42 PM

Awesome, awesome, awesome launch.

Happy 4th of July NASA!

speed647 on July 4, 2006 at 2:53 PM

Personally, I think we should get RID of that giant money pit called NASA.

We should leave it to the private sector. they will do it far, far better, far cheaper and with more solid science!

Warner Todd Huston on July 4, 2006 at 2:59 PM

We have just witnessed a flawless launch, and a remarkable event. Again America is in space pushing our bounderies farther than anyone can visualize.

Be proud, America. You deserve to be.

DannoJyd on July 4, 2006 at 3:07 PM

John Kerry is making an ‘a-s’ of himself again; Cindy Sheehan is on a hunger strike (make sure she doesn’t get force-fed, a la Guantanamo), only 40% of liberals are proud to be an American, the Britts don’t like us any more, nor does the ROW. We are ‘ugly and arrogant’ and ‘loud’.

What do we give them in response? The best display a 4th of July could offer. What risk, what boldness and what courage! Now they can say to Gallup that Mr. Bush is trying to conquer space too; and he isn’t following the Constitution.

I had goosebumps and tears flowed at liftoff. Happy Independence Day USA! You are the greatest country still and may you remain so for a very, very long time.

Sarcasm on – breaking news – the Taliban tried to shoot down the shuttle but failed – sarcasm off.

Warner Todd Huston, you are right on NASA’s financing and management.

Entelechy on July 4, 2006 at 3:17 PM

I spent a few years inside NASA and won’t quibble with arguments that it’s inefficient and bureaucratic.

There are times to talk about all of that, and then there are just times to sit back and marvel at the feat of skill and engineering that space flight is, and at the bravery of the astronauts who put themselves into space, and even at an agency that refuses to give up. I think today is a day for the latter kind of conversation.

Bryan on July 4, 2006 at 3:25 PM

Amen, Bryan. Congratulations to the crew and everyone involved, and Godspeed on the rest of the mission. What a beautiful launch!

insomni on July 4, 2006 at 3:32 PM

“Fireworks” – let’s hope it’s the right kind of fireworks.

Kokonut on July 4, 2006 at 3:39 PM

Bryan,

I’m a licensed pilot and know what it means to “have slipped the surly bonds of earth” many, many times. These flights mean so much and yet so few comprehend fully.

Also, I fully support NASA, always have and will. The alternative is just good for competitive reasons and for quicker progress. No harm was meant and I’m happy you ran this thread today. Thank you.

Entelechy on July 4, 2006 at 3:44 PM

No offense taken. I’m more a fan of NASA’s mission than NASA as an administration myself.

Bryan on July 4, 2006 at 4:01 PM

Personally, I think we should get RID of that giant money pit called NASA.

We should leave it to the private sector. they will do it far, far better, far cheaper and with more solid science!

Warner Todd Huston on July 4, 2006 at 2:59 PM

I agree, however it must also be pointed out that the reason NASA can’t do anything is because Congress only gives them 1% of our budget!!

…..We spend more on the “spekkled horned toad” than we do on NASA. For shame, Congress!

:/

VonHelton on July 4, 2006 at 4:12 PM

Congratulations astronauts!! Must be cool to watch the fireworks of the entire globe from up in space!!

Psycotte on July 4, 2006 at 5:03 PM

Are you sure about that VonHelton? 1% of our budget is $27 billion. I thought they only got $3 or 4 billion (which still sounds like a lot of money to me).

Kevin M on July 4, 2006 at 5:08 PM

$500M of your hard earned tax dollars gone in a flash, for what? Could have been spent getting the comercial space program going…

Then we would ALL be closer to going!

rattrap47 on July 5, 2006 at 7:28 AM

Let see,we were on the moon 40 years ago and I am supposed to be impressed with a bus with wings on it.

The space shuttle is a joke ask any former astronauts.

We should be on Mars by now and have Moon bases not launching a shuttle into orbit for another PR mission that is useless.

What has happened to NASA and our Government that mothballed the space program into useless PR stunts.

ScottyDog on July 5, 2006 at 11:19 AM

Beautiful launch! Everyone should be very proud of our country and those brave astronauts. Excellent job NASA! Now lets finish that space station so we can build on the moon and then set off to Mars.

Even though it was raining here in Houston; it was still a spectacular 4th of July! The skies were clear over the only place that mattered on such a historic day; third time is truly a charm.

All you “nay-sayers” out there: try to take some time out of your busy schedule of complaining to appreciate our country and our amazing accomplishments. Manned space exploration is more than just a left-over from the Cold War.

Cary on July 5, 2006 at 11:27 AM

NASA serves a purpose; space flight is not only something for us to dream about in our luxury, but also something to think about in terms of our national security. You could easily make a justification that government involvement in space travel is an extension of the Fed’s responsibility to protect this country. If my tax dollars will go to anything, I would prefer it would be on things like the shuttle programme and upgrading B-52′s.

Yesterday was Discovery’s third try, and the third time I woke up early to watch the countdown (I live on the West Coast). I too was struck by the Sheehan comparison and wrote a blog about it ( ).

We actually spend .07% of the Federal Budget on NASA, which is a crime. The President saw no problem funneling money to Katrina ‘survivors’ to the tune of at LEAST 2 billion in fraud, he gave money to the families of 9/11 victims and thinks that our tax dollars are just deposits into a credit union that he holds the withdrawl slips to.

It makes me SICK, frankly. How any of these acts helps America stay secure financially or physically I don’t know. Lets create more entitlements, lets give out ‘credit cards’ to survivors of a national disaster and let them buy beer and lap dances with them; and then foreign newspapers can laugh at us when it comes to light.

How this type of stupidity in spending will do anything other than bankrupt the country and give the Democrats an excuse to justify a tax increase I don’t know. To term it counter productive is to be kind.

China is on its way to the moon, folks. They’ve put someone in orbit and they don’t care what the cost is- human or otherwise- and we have no problems with funding them, in the form of the ubiquitous ‘goods made in China’. It’s absolutely shameful, and I’m just sick of it.

The reason we’re not on Mars, we’re not on the moon is because of entitlements. After the first successful moon mission there were cries of ‘how can we keep spending this much money on space when there are poor people in America’? Nixon had tentative plans on his desk for a Mars mission using NERVA rockets; it would have landed on the red planet in 1985; how different life would be today. The public support flagged because of the perceived dearth of government handouts for the underprivileged, helped on it’s way, of course, by the Democrat party which had by that time moved away from the Democrats of JFK’s ilk.

We will never completely solve world hunger; there will always be people somewhere who need help who don’t get it when they need it. We should never allow something like that to be a roadblock to greater things; we’ll just end up sitting here, waiting for Godot, to the peril of us all. We will never get meaningful research and funding in to NASA as long as the President- and Congress- treat our tax dollars as their own personal entitlement, to award- and reward- people and communities as they see fit. Again, this is to the detriment of our country, our security and the finances of all tax payers.

The moon, Mars, THEY are the things that preserve mankind if an asteroid hits or al-Qaeda gets a closetful of nukes. Moving towards them makes us a better country, as we focus collectively on a positive, difficult goal; it feeds our souls. It increases our knowledge of medicine, the universe, weather; the benefits are nearly limitless.

You could see all of this promise yesterday, as Discovery’s CDR, sitting on top of millions of gallons of fuel, waiting to get hurled in to space, responded to Mission Control:

“I can think of no better place to be than here, on the Fourth of July.”

linlithgow on July 5, 2006 at 2:14 PM

By the way, here’s the blog on my site about Sheehan/the shuttle, if you’re interested (I linked it but must have messed up).

http://www.theright-stuff.com/archives/000468.html

http://www.theright-stuff.com/archives/000468.html

linlithgow on July 5, 2006 at 2:18 PM