Israeli TV: Hostage negotiations collapse (Update: Attack begins?)

posted at 3:36 pm on June 27, 2006 by Allahpundit

The tanks are ready to roll but mediators want a few more hours to try to hammer something out. Debka breaks down the situation and says the IDF is looking at a five-stage operation in Gaza. They seem to believe there’s a chance of recovering the missing soldier — but how? His captors will surely kill him when they get there.

While Haniyeh talks to the Pope, his people are busy forming “abduction units” to kidnap more Israelis. They’ve already grabbed another victim, which the good people of the West Bank and Gaza evidently think is just grand.

Update: The IAF has bombed a bridge and IDF tanks are on the move, so it appears to be on. We should be getting the first press release from Palestinian “human rights groups” alleging atrocities and/or massacres any minute now.

Update: Has Shalit been smuggled out to another country?

Update: Fox says the power’s out in Gaza thanks to an Israeli airstrike.

Update: Rusty Shackleford e-mails a link to Ynet claiming that Syria has sent troops to protect Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal (who’s based in Damascus) in anticipation of Israel’s Gaza strike.


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They keep pushing for Israel to solve the problem while conveniently “forgetting” the lesson they were taught about ‘final solutions’.

I would not be surprised if the IDF has everything worked out and in place for walking an artillery barrage from one end of Gaza to the other.

I will be surprised if they can be driven into actually doing it, however since they do remember the past.

KCSteve on June 27, 2006 at 3:44 PM

“Fatah, Hamas to Recognize Israel”
Yep, they’re going to “recognize” ‘em alright…..up close and personal.

RedWinged Blackbird on June 27, 2006 at 3:50 PM

Tanks will roll in 3……2……1….

Defector01 on June 27, 2006 at 4:19 PM

I went to the Michelle Malkin’s site to read about the situation in Israel. I read the following comment by some guy named Jacob.

Israel, stop the cycle of violence
jacob – New Zealand
06/27/2006 20:36

what good will come out of an Israeli military raid right now? more innocents killed to try and ‘rescue’ this poor Israeli soldier. it’s time for diplomacy guys, if not, the US government should stop propping your government up. if they stop sending you checks, then you will have to think of other ways to solve the problems than apache’s and tanks. time to get smart.

I couldn’t agree more. With maybe just one small modification.

Hamas, PA, stop the cycle of violence
EFG – United States
06/27/2006 21:36

What good will come out of kidnapping Israeli’s right now? More innocents killed to try and ‘pressure’ this Israeli government. It’s time for diplomacy guys, if not, the US and EU governments should stop propping your government up. If they stop permanantly stop sending you checks, then you will have to think of other ways to solve the problems than with suicide bombings kidnappings and murders. Time to get smart.

I suppose I might have just a touch of respect for the people who always make this “stop the cycle of violence” arguement, if it wasn’t for the odd coincidence that it always seems to be the U.S. and Israel that are expected to turn the other cheek. Strange. It is almost as if the real motivation wasn’t peace in our time, but just to oppose the U.S. or Israel. Perhaps the smart people at Daily Kos can explain where my thinking has gone wrong.

I wish I was smart…

EFG on June 27, 2006 at 6:20 PM

…it’s time for diplomacy guys…

Is there a more blatent “I’m a clueless friggin’ idiot” statement in the world than somebody saying that with regard to Israel? How can people be that oblivious to history and still arrogant enough to publicly voice an opinion? It will never cease to amaze me.

In case any of these people happen to lurk through here, let me enlighten you a bit with B Moe’s Rule of International Relations:

1) You can’t have a unilateral negotiation.

2) You can have a unilateral ass-whoopin’.

It really is just that simple.

B Moe on June 27, 2006 at 9:06 PM

“The great questions of the day will not be settled by means of speeches and majority decisions … but by iron and blood.”

My kind of diplomacy; Bismarck style.

Kid from Brooklyn on June 27, 2006 at 9:44 PM

Unfortunately, Shalit was wounded in the stomach when captured. I doubt that he is alive now. His body may have been transferred out of Gaza. It is much easier to smuggle a corpse than a live human being.

Israel should announce that it will fight wars in Gaza as other Middle Eastern countries fight wars, not as a Western country. Israel should discuss what Syria did to domestic political opposition at Hama, and what Jordan did to the Palestinians during September 1970, as well as what the PLO did to other Palestinians during riots after the PLO returned from Tunis to the West Bank. Then Israel should follow up with similar actions.

And let the UN be damned.

chsw

chsw on June 27, 2006 at 10:43 PM

unilateral ass-whoopin’

Yeah Baby!

Israel gonna kick some Palestinian ass.

speed647 on June 27, 2006 at 10:45 PM

Let it be
I supported the withdrawl but frankly there’s no freaking good to come from letting the palestinians ahve any territory while they’re obsessed with death

Defector01 on June 27, 2006 at 11:24 PM