God I hate stupid people. And they always insist on breeding.

McConnell and two other Republicans vote against the measure.

Chafee is a liberal, his vote would be expected.

Bennett is hard to track on the internet, although I found he was suggested to be ‘Deep Throat’.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/CandidateProfile.aspx?ci=1759&oi=S

If this interview is accurate, Bennett describes himself as good friends with Kennedy, Dodds, Reid
http://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php?p=2270

That leaves McConnell who ‘whips’ out an op-ed explaining the amendment would just gives folks the attention they crave.

The measure failed by one vote. Chafee was a given. Bennett (possibly Deep Throat) seems to be a Reid Republican.

IMHO, McConnell is as whip, the designated amendment killer. He is the one with the safe seat who casts the only controversial vote, thus freeing up all other Republicans to pretend they support the amendment, and vote yea in one more pre-election dog-and-pony set up.

I am finding the GOP more and more indigestible every day.

So, once again the clowns in Washington have nothing better to do than try to amend the Constitution to prohibit desecration of the flag. If they don’t have anything more important to so, can’t we just send ‘em home and stop paying their salaries? O…

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Yes. During the illegal-Mexican muscle flexing, pols and educators protected the Mexican flag, and allowed the trouncing of the American flag. Because the Red, white and blue is not just a piece of cloth. It is the grave blanket of our soldiers. It waves over the crosses at Arlington. It is the blood, and sacrifice of our nation’s defenders. It marks the territory of the nation America.

Cross burning is illegal, not because of the insult to Christianity but because of Klan symbolism. A burning cross is in the language of symbols, a marking of Klan territory and a declaration of threat to the ‘burnee’. I personally would make cross burning illegal only if it were a fire hazard, or if it was burned on the property of non-consenting victims. Then, I would use wire tapping, spying, bank records and covert activity to track the cross burners as a matter of public safety.

The flag is the symbol of the nation. ‘Copyrighted’ as it were. It is owned by America. You play with the ‘copyrighted’ symbol with the permission of the Nation.

That is the permission of every citizen of this nation.

That permission is always granted by law, and a constitutional amendment is a legitimate way for the public to express how they want their property to be handled.

The American flag is not owned by any one person.

Get your stinkin hands off my part of the flag. It is the blood and sacrifice of my father. It is the proxy for my nation. You kick it. I kick you.

It is a shame that we need this amendment. I agree that Congress is using the issue to divert attention from the illegal invasion. That scam isn’t working.

I will take this law anyway I can get it, because the courts are slowly erasing what this nation is, and our first step to save the reality of America is to get the flag back from the erasers.

My problem is that Congress has expended millions of dollars and all their energy trying to protect some cotton and dye?

And what if the amendment passed? How many billions of dollars more in tax payer money would be spent trying to get the damn thing ratified in 34 states?

Yet they are unwilling to protect the unborn and address other serious issues!

Well that, my friend, is a sad commentary on who we are as a nation! Sorry if this is how you make a living, but…

Bear in mind the Amendment only gives congress the power to protect the flag, it would require enabling legislation.

Cross burning IS illegal, per recent Supreme Court decision. (Virginia v. Black)

The premise again on the Flag Amendment is not that the Senate or House is smarter than us, but rather the People (via Article 5 of the Constitution) should play a part in the checks and balances on the Judiciary.

Sorry again if I came off as condescending.

How much is it we pay these clowns including benefits and perks? Boy are we stupid!

Thomas Payne said that government is the result of people’s inability to get along with one another! Is what we have in Washington government?

Seriously???? What is it we have in Washington??

I really don’t know. but i know that it’s a slippery slope…

Bear in mind that desecration of the flag was against the laws of 48 states and the district from the founding of our country until the decision in 1989, and none of these draconian type things ever occurred. It is generally the defense of some Senators, who generally have no response when alerted to the fact no one was ever busted for disrespecting boxer shorts.

As for the Conservative v. Liberal things, my polling indicates that this is a media fabrication for the most part. Bear in mind the original sponsors of the legislation were Hatch and FEINSTEIN. (No conservative she.) And while the polling indicates a stronger support among conservatives, self proclaimed liberals also support by over 50%.

As for more important legislation, they don’t seem to be passing anything anyway, so they might as well debate snail darters for all the good that seems to come from the Senate. I agree on the immigration issues etc (and submitted testimony on that issue) however, there are many many veteran and benevolent societies who have asked for this repeatedly, both for the stated purpose, and also to express discontent with the judicial branch for reading “expression” into a document where it is not mentioned.

I met with a Senator yesterday who argued that we shouldn’t amend the Constitution to correct a flawed Supreme Court decision. I mentioned Plessy v. Furgoson etc, and his eyes clouded over. To say I am less than impressed with the cognitive abilities of our Senators is an understatement.

Well it didn’t work so get your butts back to work on important issues! Securing our borders, securing Social Security, Cutting Taxes, Cutting Spending, stopping the senseless killing of the not-yet-born American Citizens instead of wasting time on something as meaningless as an anti-flag burning amendment.

http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/benshapiro/2006/06/28/202871.html

He also states this, which I agree with…

“The American flag represents our nation; it represents American values; it represents the blood of those who have died and continue to die on battlefields across the world to protect our freedoms. The American flag does not represent the nonexistent right of traitors to desecrate the stars and bars. When the American flag is burned, it represents a denial of the most fundamental notion of citizenship. Those who burn the flag are no less traitors than those who renounce their citizenship to fight with our enemies.“

YOu know, a real estate company JUST came down our street (while I’m typing this) putting out American Flags in everyone’s yard and they are using it as a marketing tool. So, HOW FAR do you want to take the desecration laws? Will this be illegal? Or, will it just be burning? or, will it be that even making boxer shorts in an american flag print will be illegal? Pres. Bush signed a flag. illegal? desecration? I really don’t know. but i know that it’s a slippery slope…

I’m with ya’ll on the amendment – totally gross to desecrate the flag, but it kind of goes against my grain to pass a constitutional amendment that FORCES us to respect it.

Based on that logic, we should do away with the pledge of allegiance, registering for selective service, having an oath of allegiance etc right? Forcing someone to respect it, and allowing the 200 years of flag laws we had until 1989 to be enforceable seem to be 2 entirely different things to me.

Are we forced to respect money because we can’t burn that? Are we forced to respect fire because we can’t yell it in a movie theater?

Sometimes I wonder what planet these people are living on..

Blahh

tomas on June 27, 2006 at 11:10 PM

what is illegal about the war, tomas?

so, i’m glad it didn’t pass. now we can get on to things that are more pressing…

I know where our priority is…to get rid of the RINO and to take back the party.

One goal, one will, one destiny! United we stand.

I would agree with granting amnesty to any American soldier who wants to beat the crap out of anyone desecrating the flag. Fair compromise?

Yes, we’d support that compromise any day. Unfortunately, that’s not the way it works. A filthy hippy can crap upon the American flag and burn it with his joint, yet an outraged soldier, who risks his life to defend the freedoms represented by the flag, can’t take the action being proposed. Hence, it’s a moot point. And thus the giddy Democrats have won this battle.

The flag should be protected because one might argue that the Founders expressly protect freedom of speech, not theatrics. If a subversive wants to curse the American flag, be our guest. We’ll even help out on the vocabulary.

But setting fire — that’s not speech, that’s action. Just like punching someone in the nose — it’s not protected.