Video: Tony Snow on the Times’s editorial judgment

posted at 5:40 pm on June 26, 2006 by Allahpundit

They don’t have any.


Note too what he says about the government’s program not being the only “unusual departure” in this case.

Treacher salutes the readership.

Update: Tony’s not the only Snow with something to say to Keller. The boss explains. Quote:

It should also be noted that the co-chairmen of the bipartisan 9-11 Commission, Governor Tom Kean and Congressman Lee Hamilton, met in person or placed calls to the very highest levels of the Times urging the paper not to publish the story. Members of Congress, senior U.S. Government officials and well-respected legal authorities from both sides of the aisle also asked the paper not to publish or supported the legality and validity of the program…

You have defended your decision to compromise this program by asserting that “terror financiers know” our methods for tracking their funds and have already moved to other methods to send money. The fact that your editors believe themselves to be qualified to assess how terrorists are moving money betrays a breathtaking arrogance and a deep misunderstanding of this program and how it works.

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Tony is so valuable at this scary time. If Helen Thomas was running all over the press secretary we could literally lose the country.

I still don’t understand why the “S” word isn’t being thrown around more. This is the only place I’ve seen it yet. Enjoy.

NTWR on June 26, 2006 at 6:32 PM

I’m more and more impressed by Tony Snow and his ability to take what the media says and throw it back at them. McClellan and Fleisher were a little too passive

Defector01 on June 26, 2006 at 6:52 PM

I agree, Tony Snow is the best press secratary I have ever seen.
The guy seems utterly inflappable, I keep expecting him to pull a Fonzi

Wyrd on June 26, 2006 at 6:54 PM

I strongly disagree with Tony Snow on the right of NY Times to classify or declassify secret data. The law has not granted them the right!!!!!

If NY Times is to have to right to do so, then those inside that organization must go through background check and be granted security clearance according to protocol!

Tony, NY Times cannot assume a right they don’t have. This is a huge mistake you have made in your statement!

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 6:57 PM

Where did he say that? He said if they start acting like they have that right, they also need to accept the responsibility.

Jim Treacher on June 26, 2006 at 7:01 PM

At the beginning of the video.

he said something like..”If NY Times is to assume the responsibility of classifying or declassifying, they should have to take some heat too…”

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:03 PM

He was answering the first question right at the beginning of the video.

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:06 PM

Treacher, he cannot say that!!!!!

This is wrong. NY Times never have that right! “They ought to….” indirectly approved NY Times right to classify or de-classify info.

Snow should say ” NY Times was not granted a security clearance so they do not have the authority to classify or declassify secret information.”…period.

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:09 PM

He’s saying they assumed the right to do it, not that they had the right to do it.

Jim Treacher on June 26, 2006 at 7:10 PM

Look up the word “assume” and get back to us.

Jim Treacher on June 26, 2006 at 7:11 PM

I can see that the administration is now injecting authority into NY Times to allow them not to be prosecuted…

“They ought to take some heat?” What is it, in a kitchen?

They ought to face prosecution!!!!!

This is bad…real bad….

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:11 PM

Tell me the difference please..

“They assume they have the right…”

and

“they assume the right….”

then come back to me…

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:14 PM

“They are trying to assume responsibility in determining what has to be classified or declassified….” Said Tony…

Am I wrong?

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:15 PM

Yes.

Jim Treacher on June 26, 2006 at 7:22 PM

sigh….if I try to assume the responsibility of determining what should be classified or not without a security clearance, I think I “ought” to take more than heat.

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:31 PM

It’s been 3 days. Breathe into a paper bag or something.

Jim Treacher on June 26, 2006 at 7:33 PM

But you are wrong.

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:36 PM

Okay, guy. Have a good one.

Jim Treacher on June 26, 2006 at 7:46 PM

easy87, all Tony was saying is that if they want to behave this way they will have to assume the responsibility of their actions. What the Times did was elevate itself above the Executive branch. After seeing Bill Keller’s pompous, arrogant, idiotic response today I believe the government should strike back with whatever litigation fits the bill.

Bellicose Muse on June 26, 2006 at 7:51 PM

One thing about the word “assume” is that it makes
an ASS of U and ME!

NTWR on June 26, 2006 at 7:52 PM

I do not like the word “ought”…it implies a choice NY Times can make!

Tony said “If NY Times is to decide to assume the responsibility of determinining what is to be classified and what is not, then they ought to have the obligation to take the responsibility……take some heat”

This is a highly ambiguous statement.

I think they ought to be prosecuted!

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 7:56 PM

Easy easy, Tony was just trying to make a point. The big problem with the point is his “heat”. Turning up the heat on these guys to 100 degrees isn’t going to do much. These sub human scum at the Times need to be scourched.

I agree that Tony’s choice of words were not the best. But its the administrations application of “heat” on the reporters, editors and treasonous leakers that needs to be brought on in full! Fry the scum.

LeeSmith on June 26, 2006 at 8:24 PM

“NY Times ought to face the possibility of prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.”….now that is what I like to hear!

I suspect Tony knows exactly what he is talking about.

If DOJ decide not to call grand jury, you know Easy87 smell the drift here first!

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 8:32 PM

Now that I have stirred up your interest, I boldly predict that DOJ will not pursue the matter because NY Times ought to accept the obligation and responsibility…blah blah blah..and it will open up a precedent for our enemies to use newspaper as a mean for espionage.

Unless Pete King can rally up the grass root support to pressure DOJ….

Can congress call a grand jury?…

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 8:41 PM

Gotta say, Treacherman, Easy87 is right to suggest that Tony’s statement is light. It is. And maybe that’s what they need from a Press Secretary, unflappability and smooth reason.

However, what they need from me is vein-popping rage, and I’m their guy. So, short of Bill Keller and butt-boy Pinche in stocks in Times Square where passersby can cane them for hours at a time, I sit with my barely-contained rage, waiting for the DOJ to initiate a criminal proceeding against the limp-schwanz government leaker and the Times.

Meanwhile, Coulter was right again — McVeigh hit the wrong building.

Jaibones on June 26, 2006 at 10:29 PM

Meanwhile, Coulter was right again — McVeigh hit the wrong building.

You get one free bite at the apple, dude.

The next time, it’s a-bannin’.

Allahpundit on June 26, 2006 at 10:31 PM

Jailbones, I am turning up the heat, you know…really.

Write to your congressman please. You can get the address from Google.

I am so angry..I am glad we semi redneck know how to quench our rage with a beer.

Them reporter can kiss my grits, ya know.

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 10:34 PM

You get one free bite at the apple, dude.

The next time, it’s a-bannin’.

Allahpundit on June 26, 2006 at 10:31 PM

You really do have a crush on Coulter!

Anything else he could be dead meat!…LOL

easy87us on June 26, 2006 at 10:36 PM

Allah: sorry to stretch the envelope, and there’s a line in front of Ann, bro. I’ll be good…

Easy87: My elected representatives are the idiot Jesse, Jr., Dick “the Weenie” Durbin, and Osama Obama. What exactly would you suggest I say to these nitwits in letter form?

(tick, tock, tick, tock…)

That’s what I thought…

Jaibones on June 26, 2006 at 11:41 PM

I almost wish I was I was a subscriber to the NY Times just so I could cancel my subscription.

Scott on June 26, 2006 at 11:51 PM

Darn it, Jailbones, we are in the same freaking state. And I thought I was the only one in pain…ouch…another beer…

easy87us on June 27, 2006 at 12:17 AM

But, you can still write to your congressman, right? Jail, are you still alive?

I hope you are not in Cook county.

easy87us on June 27, 2006 at 12:18 AM

Every subscriber of the NYT rag should cancel their subscription, every reader of the NYT should refuse to buy the rag.

Every one of those should, if they have a brain AND a spine (doubtful if they are still reading the rag), call every advertiser in the NYT and REFUSE to do business with them stating it is because they advertise in the NYT.

Hit them where it hurts – the bottom line.

If the Atty. General doesn’t go after these people with all his might, he should be fired & someone with a brain & spine put in his place. Go after these people with all the might of the law.

The people who work at the NYT are beyond despicable. They are amoral.

blueskieswoman on June 27, 2006 at 2:05 AM

There shouldn’t be a single NYT-associated reporter with a press credential to an part of the Executive branch or the Defense Department as of today. The press may have a right to be informed but no single entity within the press has such a right.

Mike O on June 27, 2006 at 3:57 PM

bold is stuck again, I”l unstick it. That should do it.

Close your tags, people!

Mike O on June 27, 2006 at 3:58 PM

Easy87, you’re killin’ me, bro. It’s JAI, not J-A-I-L, homes. If that’s a joke, it’s a good one…

Yep, I’m still alive. Allah threatened to cast me into a lake of fire that I might burn for all eternity, but I told him an infidel had stolen my login and that I had relieved him of the burden of his head, and now it’s all good, kuffir.

Jaibones on June 27, 2006 at 4:41 PM

Anywho, glad to share my Illinois misery, and yes, of course I’m in friggin’ Cook County. For those of you blessed by representative government, we have this funny thing here in northeastern Illinois called Cook County.

It’s kind of like having the Teamsters running the government…

Jaibones on June 27, 2006 at 4:46 PM

Jaibones; I am blessed to be represented by Cornyn and Hutchinson in the Senate and Sam Johnson in Congress. Don’t agree on everything with them, but don’t have to wear a paper bag over my head. My condolances; considering Chicago politics, possibly you could ship us a pallet load of absentee ballots and we could help you out. :lol:

Mike O on June 27, 2006 at 8:20 PM

Mike O, just call me “jealous in Chicago.”

Jaibones on June 28, 2006 at 11:24 AM

Hey, but the pizza’s great…

Jaibones on June 28, 2006 at 11:24 AM

Try my neck of the woods out for size, Jailbones… Feinstein, Boxer, and for good measure, Loretta Sanchez. At least when your dead people vote, they weren’t here illegally.

That didn’t make any sense at all.

hindmost on June 28, 2006 at 12:41 PM